Video: Mythbusters on Mooner-conspiracies; Update: Surprise — Whoopi’s a conspiracy theorist

posted at 3:15 pm on July 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Think of the Moon-landing hoax conspiracy theorists as the original Truthers, 32 years before 9/11. No matter how much scientific evidence one supplies, no matter how many times the debunkers debunk, they will insist that the entire space program took place on a sound stage in Hollywood. CNN interviews the hosts of Mythbusters, who have supplied their own efforts in what will almost certainly be a futile effort to put an end to the Mooners:


Mythbusters has a sneak peek of their Mooner episode on their website. It airs tonight at 9 pm ET. I look forward to seeing it, although one of the best debunkings of the panoply of Mooner lunacy (pun intended) came eight years ago at Bad Astronomy. Fox had aired a prime-time special in February 2001 allowing the nutcases to spin their theories, including the particularly loathesome allegation that NASA killed Gus Grissom, Roger Chafee, and Ed White in the Apollo I fire because Grissom was going to spill the beans on the conspiracy. Phil Plait rips Fox for airing the episode and points out all of the scientific and logical flaws in the arguments presented.

As the two Mythbusters point out, believing in this theory would require that everyone in the program lied about it, continues to lie about it, and that the pictures taken of the lunar surface to this day are faked by an entire new generation of scientists and engineers. It besmirches the honor of thousands of people who worked to get these men to the Moon, as well as those who died in that journey like Grissom, Chafee, and White.

Buzz Aldrin got confronted by a Mooner not long ago, and while we at Hot Air do not condone violence in debates, suffice it to say that Aldrin will never go hungry or thirsty in the Twin Cities as long as I’m here:

Update (AP): As if to prove Ed’s point about the relationship between lunar conspiracy theorists and Truthers, here’s how the idiot who replaced Rosie O’Donnell on “The View” celebrated Apollo 11′s anniversary.

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lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Actually, I thought they jumped the shark when they did the one about how the whole “Fonzie waterskiing over the shark thing” was a fake.

massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM

“You are a coward and a liar and…!” (thump!)

Buzz Aldrin is my hero. Love the slow-mo replay.

Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Headline:

Whoopi Goldberg is a [contemptible thing goes here]

Saving HA some typing in future threads.

massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Whoopi believes the only moonwalking ever done was done by Michael Jackson. Is he still dead ?

redrock on July 20, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Buzz Aldrin got confronted by a Mooner not long ago, and while we at Hot Air do not condone violence in debates, suffice it to say that Aldrin will never go hungry or thirsty in the Twin Cities as long as I’m here:

It pretty much stopped being a debate when the guy started hurling insults at mr. Aldrin.

Perhaps we need a bit more of that in society. People will think twice before becoming outrageously nasty to someone.

Chubbs65 on July 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Whoopie is a loonie moonie?
Shockah!

jgapinoy on July 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Some people need negative reinforcemnent in the form of an good ol’ fashioned ass kicking.

Troofers, Moon landing conspiracists, and those pricks who fling pies in peoples faces because they find it “amusing” definitely qualify.

Mike Honcho on July 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Best two ways to counter:

1. Actually, NASA sent men to the moon to fake the footage of the fake landing.

2. You can’t prove you exist, either.

Christien on July 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Okay, here’s a “common sense” question? Why did NASA got to the trouble of “faking” moon landings another 5 times? Isn’t once enough?

Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM

They had lots of extra footage and didn’t want to waste it. Just think of it as the “Director’s Cut” prior to having director’s cuts available. Besides they had a cool gig going why would they want to give it up?

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Who is that anchor?…Grrr baby!

MechEng5by5 on July 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Christien on July 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Ahhh! They wanted them to think the moon landing was fake.

Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM

I’ve already seen the Mythbusters episode. It first aired a while ago. It was terrific, as are most of their shows. I’d see it again.

Fred 2 on July 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM

MechEng5by5 on July 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Hey, I called dibs on her already, darnit!

Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Ed, you should link to Reason.tv’s interview with Adam Savage they had recently as well!

modnar on July 20, 2009 at 4:35 PM

By the way, I have a friend who’s father worked in Area 51, I’m not saying UFOs are real, but I’m not not saying it either.

TampaBayBull on July 20, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Of course they are real. See them all the time. I’ve also seen the elusive ball lightening which was darn impressive.

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 4:36 PM

“They had lots of extra footage and didn’t want to waste it. Just think of it as the “Director’s Cut” prior to having director’s cuts available. Besides they had a cool gig going why would they want to give it up?

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM”

Why not continue making really cool gigs - this time with a fake Mars landing?

Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM

If I faked the moon landings, I’d at least add some fake aliens to the mix and tie it into Area 51. Then sell the movie and gaming rights and make millions. Maybe like an alien takes over Buzz’s body. Heck, that’s why he punched the guy. The guy was finally getting close to the truth.

Total rookies man.

I’ve been through all the X-Files episodes and movies.

I’m an expert now.

:)

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Why not continue making really cool gigs – this time with a fake Mars landing?

Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Or a fake President that promotes dumb policies that will destroy the freedoms of this country. Man I hope someone is punking us.

WashJeff on July 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I wish Sarah would tweet that Buzz is an American Hero for the moon landings AND punching that Gen Y punk down.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM

And Barbara Walters displays her ignornace when she says to Whoopie that the 3rd guy who was shooting the footage was in the Lunar Module. Umm, Barabara, there were only 2 men in the LM, the 3rd member of the crew stayed on the command module in Lunar orbit. Cameras can be pre-placed you know. Geez.

crusader1145 on July 20, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Why not continue making really cool gigs – this time with a fake Mars landing?

Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM

They were but they got caught and used all the footage in a movie called “Capricorn One” which was not only about the Mars landing but how it was faked. That’s right they used their fake mars footage as disinformation to dispel any rumors of the landings being fake. Brilliant I’d say. Even that took it’s toll on the actors of the movie because one of them was about to spill his guts about the whole thing and he ended up being framed for murder.

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 4:57 PM

And Barbara Walters displays her ignornace when she says to Whoopie that the 3rd guy who was shooting the footage was in the Lunar Module. Umm, Barabara, there were only 2 men in the LM, the 3rd member of the crew stayed on the command module in Lunar orbit. Cameras can be pre-placed you know. Geez.

crusader1145 on July 20, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Yeah right, like I’m going to believe you over the fabulous Ms. Walters.

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Everyone knows aliens from space helped NASA fake the moon landing. Our country needed funding for the One World Government at the time and laundered money through NASA.NASA was actually an idea of the UN, who was running their own money making and laundering phony called UNICEF.

Jeff from WI on July 20, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Or a fake President that promotes dumb policies that will destroy the freedoms of this country. Man I hope someone is punking us.

WashJeff on July 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I keep hoping to wake and find Jr taking a shower and realize this election was just a bad dream, kinda like that season on “Dallas”….

catlady on July 20, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I think that the chair that O’Donnell sat in is the same one and some of the stupid leaked into Goldberg by osmosis. How do I know? Her shirt ripples and you can’t have ripples in the vacuous space where her brain should be!

Pomme143 on July 20, 2009 at 5:13 PM

redrock on July 20, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Michael Jackson is still dead. He killed himself to remake the “Thriller” video. In order to look more like a real zombie (yes, zombies are real, duh!) he killed himself with the plan to re-animate using an elixer made from the bones of the elephant man.

This conspiracy stuff is easy…

catmman on July 20, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Same punch, different angle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akJmRC2ijmY

ForNow on July 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM

All of these moon fake people never explain the single biggest part of the puzzle. Why the hell would the Russians go along with it? Why did the Russians, who could prove it was fake in 2 seconds flat, allow us to have such a political coup?

I just ignore Whoopie. You can tell by the way she is saying it that it was a setup to garner some free press and ratings.

Rocks on July 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Listen up NeoCons, that video is from Debbie Schlussel’s site. Better giver her props on it…OR ELSE!

BobAnthony on July 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Dude got Buzzed!

pugwriter on July 20, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Okay, here’s a “common sense” question? Why did NASA got to the trouble of “faking” moon landings another 5 times? Isn’t once enough?

Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Good Point. Here’s another one. How many thousands of people would need to be involved in something like that? All of them have kept this secret?

Are these lunatics telling us that not one person has come forward in forty years? Not one letter, memo or note has surfaced that would support this nonsense either.

Hell, we can’t even keep do secret intellegence operations without The New York Times blabbing it all over the place

The same goes for the 9/11 truthers who actually believe that out of all the people involved in the slaughter 3,000 people, no one, not one person has come forward to expose the whole thing. Yeah, and I’m the King of Siam.

RadClown on July 20, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Michael Jackson is dead,but he’ll return at the controls of the ghost 747 brought down over Lockerbie, Scotland.

Jeff from WI on July 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Brian Lundmark paid homage to Aldrin last week

The Monster on July 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Buzz is the freakin man!!!!

CultureWar on July 20, 2009 at 5:58 PM

That Buzz Aldrin clip is classic.
BadgerHawk on July 20, 2009

That Buzz Aldrin clip is

a hoax!

Yes, you saw it on TV, just like the moon landing.
Yes, there are beaucoup witnesses, just like the moon landing.

According to the mooners, the clip of Buzz Aldrin helping that poor guy see stars is a hoax!

DSchoen on July 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM

I never get tired of seeing that tool get his!

yubley on July 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Superman wears Buzz Aldrin pajamas.

Seriously, he walked on the moon! It doesn’t get much more impressive than that!

thebrokenrattle on July 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM

FAKE!
Forest Gump proved that by recreating it all on a movie set.
In the coming months I hope to prove that the presidential election was a fake and never happen by recreating it in my backyard. I’m looking for backers to contribute money as we type.

jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM

It’s true that the same actor (Tom Hanks) played Jim Lovell in the Apollo 13 movie, and Forrest Gump. Maybe he will star in your movie with Meghan McCain, about My Daddy the President. /sarc

Steve Z on July 20, 2009 at 6:15 PM

I know they did not land on the moon, and I know they are lying about it.

Our Lord and Master, Savior and Messiah, “The One,” Mister Hope and Change,” Mister “Yes, We can!” Barrack Hussein Obama (Peace be Unto Him! Praise His Holy Nam. Spread His Message throughout all lands and all peoples. Worship at the Holy Feet of His Majesty, the Ruler of all, He who knows our hearts. Worship and Prostarations be offered to Him at all times and in all ways. Give Him your burdens and He will give you Peace. Surrender yourself unto Him and he will give you Salvation. Hail our Great Savior!) has laid out the facts for us in his visits to other nations in which He has chastised us all, and our nation, of being an evil nation and evil peoples who lie, who enslave, who are arrogant, who are mean and nasty, and who must be put in our place.

Certainly the USA NEVER sent astronauts to the moon. The USA stinks at Math and Science, are mean, nasty raciss, liars, and deceivers who meddle in the affairs of others.

Thanks to our Savior, Barrack Hussein Obama (Peace be Unto Him. Praise His Holy Name. All Worship, Honor, Glory, Surrender, Devotion, and Obedience be unto Him!) has opened my eyes and now I see.

No, it is clear that the USA never sent a man to the moon. The entire thing is just a fraud perpetrated in a Hollywood movies set in order to deceive the people!

William2006 on July 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Does anyone know what happened after the right cross from Buzz Aldrin across the left side of the head of that arrogant, loud mouthed, condescending thug out showboating?

Did Mister Loudmouth go down? Was he counted out?

Who wouldn’t enjoy laying into a loud mouthed, malicious blow hard like the one that Buzz Aldrin unloaded on?

William2006 on July 20, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead, and the third cuts out his tongue.

darktood on July 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM

I love all conspiracy theories involving the government. The statistical possibility of the number of people that whould be involved in that “secret” added to the press is mind boggling. These people are not logical.
Cindy Munford on July 20, 2

“In fact, one thing that I have noticed. . . is that all of these conspiracy theories depend on the perpetrators being endlessly clever. I think you’ll find the facts also work if you assume everyone is endlessly stupid.”

Brian Moore

DSchoen on July 20, 2009 at 6:35 PM

BWAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thats why they call him buzz! He gave that fat little kid a free buzz with a fist to the face. Loved it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sonnyspats1 on July 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Oh man, that’s awesome. Nice shot too.

Geronimo on July 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Buzz Aldrin got confronted by a Mooner not long ago,

I don’t know which is more disturbing, that I somehow missed the fact that these “Mooners” existed or that there are actually people out there who believe this crap. Ok, I just answered my own question, I don’t know the heck I avoided hearing about these people!!
Love the video of Buzz Aldrin punching that guy, I would have liked to have seen a few more seconds though.

4shoes on July 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Buzz should watch his hands at his age. Better to have kicked numbnuts in the balls.

GarandFan on July 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Truthers. Sheez. Several years ago, a colleague mentioned a movie, The Philadelphia Experiment, and how it was, in his opinion, actually based on facts & not fiction. He said he had elderly neighbors who actually knew WWII navy vets that could corroborated the truth. That evening, somewhat intrigued by the nonsense, I did a little research on the internet and discovered this little ‘myth-busting’ gem, interlaced with humor, which was a well researched & fascinating exercise in debunking a classic myth:


dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/henryr/philadelphia/

To set the mood here’s a lead-in teaser:

“My fascination for the so-called ‘Philadelphia Experiment’ started with the need for an entertaining academic diversion within Cambridge University library. I was stuck there one glum English Sunday, in search of enlightenment about the effects of the introduction of the Sweet Potato on the culture of highland New Guinea.”

ReagansRight on July 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Height of the Cold War…

Soviets suffering major setbacks to their announced (by Khrushchev) plan to reach the moon and Mars before the Americans…

Now, anyone in their right mind would understand that had we “faked it” the Soviets would have been all over it. They had the monitoring capability. They would have had a perfectly good reason to make sure the rest of the world knew we never landed on the moon.

Yet, from the Soviets? Nope. Not a word.

Enough for me, just on that little gem alone.

We went. We walked. Wish we’d have kept up the effort.

coldwarrior on July 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Providing a platform for cranks like her to spout nonsense is irresponsible.

ronsfi on July 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM

It is very simple – if we faked it, the Soviets would know and would have screamed that it was fake. Ergo, it was real.

Stalin knew about the atomic bomb before Truman did.

Pelayo on July 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Oops, I think I could be an example of not readng comments before posting.

Pelayo on July 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM

My father (retired from North American/Rockwell) was confronted by a family member who basically said the same thing as this little turd.

It was fun to watch the ol’ man case-by-case take the guy apart:
- They brought back moon rocks that were then distrubuted to geologists at independent universities around the world. How were those faked?
- The unidirectional radio antenna located in Australia was used to receive the signals from the moon AS IT WAS POINTED AT THE MOON when North America was facing away. How was that faked?
- NASA is a non-military, entity comprised of hundreds of thousands of independent contractors and manufacturers who each built a component. Surely ONE of them would find something fishy? How could a conspiracy cover so many people?

-there were others.

and finally, the coup de gras:
- With the complexity of such a conspiracy, wouldn’t it have been a whole lot easier to just go to the damn moon?

kurtzz3 on July 20, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Regarding conspiracies: Chuck Colson has written how his involvement in the (unsuccessful) conspiracy to cover up the Nixon / Watergate scandal led him to more easily accept the reality of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the tomb, then appearing to hundreds of witnesses.

Just as the Apostles couldn’t conspire to keep something secret (like the alleged hiding the body of the Jesus), Colson found it impossible to hide the truth of his own involvement in the scandal. Colson became a believer, and saw the evidence for the resurrection.

Once I read Colson’s comments, I shed my old thinking on the wild conspiracies of the JFK assassination that was so fascinating to me in the early 1970s.

Pazman on July 20, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Mythbusters are awesome, and so is Phil Plait.

Wellsy on July 20, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Bravo Mr. Aldrin.
t’s great to see a man give a fool what he deserves. That swine had it coming, and he got it, served up with gusto.

Mulligan on July 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM

. I’m sick of fifty percent of this country thinking creationism is reasonable.

Apparently he doesn’t believe that computer programs exist.

DethMetalCookieMonst on July 20, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Why is it we can send a man to the moon but 40-years after that historic event we still have celebrities like Whoopi who can’t properly enunciate as simple a word as “ask?” Maybe the simpleton who called Aldrin a liar and coward should “axe” that question of Goldberg and her obnoxious friend Joy.

Goldy1 on July 20, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Well, look at who said it. She’s a moron. What else is new?

Sarah2053 on July 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM

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