My mind isn’t closed, though, so feel free to sell me.

Dude, the man has paid more taxes then all of hotair put together. What makes you think he loves them so much? Also he refused to take salary as Olympic CEO and Gov. He promised the same as POTUS. He doesn’t think taxes, big gov are the solution.

hanzblinx on July 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM

hanz, never said he loves taxes…but face it, ANY gop nominee is going to run on tax cutting, that’s a no brainer…and refusing to take as salary when you are a billionaire is not that impressive, its grandstanding… Bloomberg does that in nyc, and if he’s a conservative,
I quit. I think his statements so far on obamas healthcare plan have been extremely troubling. Mccain lost the election in one 3 hour stretch where he mistakenly supported the bailouts, and lost 7 million bush voters.

people want real change this time. I know I’m not going to get a true libertarian in office, but Palin appears to be the closest I’m going to get…his record in Mass (admittedly a very blue state where he had to work with the dems ) is mixed. Again, I’m ready to be sold, so tell me….where does he stand on illegal immigration ? drilling in ANWR ? off shore drilling ? Tort reform ?

Your misunderstanding of how insurance, risk pool sharing or any business work is amazing. Insurance company is probably some evil scheme spawn by the freemasons and the illuminati.

It’s certainly something to avoid if you can afford it.

Wait–do you seriously imagine, that ScamCross and SimCity Hospital have already agreed on the payout on IDC9 codes, and that if I go in with a broken arm and give my Scamcross policy number, a bill presented by SimCity Hospital to Scamcross on my behalf is paid in full within 30 days? BWAHAHAAHAA!!!! Try 180 days. Try some of it, never. MFCCs do not take insurance AT ALL, because they never got paid.

The airline should be run like this. You can come on in and fly free to San Francisco if you like to. You have the right to fly. We will just charge some other more for their tickets. Come to think of it, we will also charge those who is not be flying for your privilege. We should charge those rich bastards who have private jets 40% of their worth. Damn greedy rich guys should be soaked.

Beats your system, where I pay AirCare Insurance >$100 to have all my travel arrangements taken care of, even if I never fly at all. By Law. And then when I do fly, I’ll still pay a deductible. And the airline has a guarantee of pay…after a review…or three…and an offer to setoff a chunk…

The airline can refuse to fly someone who did not buy a ticket. Your laisser-faire approach would work only if doctors and hospital can refuse to provide care to anyone who does not pay his/her bill.

IF they needed 100% of the payment within a month. Which they don’t.

Geochelone on July 22, 2009 at 4:47 PM

You better watch out. The high school squad is going to come after you for that!

How much do want to bet that these numbers don’t get any play on the MSM including Fox News. Instead it will all about Sarah being a crook and stealing from the legal defense fund (she has not touched a dime so far).

technopeasant on July 22, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I hear ya. But Palin has many enthusiastic supporters which is evident from the polling data.

Its is fun to watch skeptics have their theories refuted day after day. Even many on this board hate me saying

Watch Out Word
Yes She Can

It drives them nuts. That woman MadCon sits on this board all damn day and tries to nip at peoples ankles like a little poodle.

This is what she said:

Her resignation will only make her fade.
MadisonConservative on July 5, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Cracks me up.

If everybody who bought health insurance, got it back in treatment, the insurer goes broke.
So what does it tell you when they don’t go broke?

Why don’t you reform the hotel industry by mandating every American reserve a room? Whether they use it or not?
Why don’t you reform the airlines by mandating every American buy a ticket? Whether they use it or not?

Chris_Balsz on July 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Your misunderstanding of how insurance, risk pool sharing or any business work is amazing. Insurance company is probably some evil scheme spawn by the freemasons and the illuminati.

The airline should be run like this. You can come on in and fly free to San Francisco if you like to. You have the right to fly. We will just charge some other more for their tickets. Come to think of it, we will also charge those who is not be flying for your privilege. We should charge those rich bastards who have private jets 40% of their worth. Damn greedy rich guys should be soaked.

The airline can refuse to fly someone who did not buy a ticket. Your laisser-faire approach would work only if doctors and hospital can refuse to provide care to anyone who does not pay his/her bill.

How much do want to bet that these numbers don’t get any play on the MSM including Fox News. Instead it will all about Sarah being a crook and stealing from the legal defense fund (she has not touched a dime so far).

By the way here is more evidence via the American Research Group (ARG) poll that Obama’s favorables are declining:

F UF
OVERALL 52 44

This confirms the Rasmussen daily tracking poll (51%) and the recent PPP poll (50%)

D R I
F 84 9 46
UF 11 88 52

Even some the RINO’s or blueblood Republicans have deserted the Messiah and this poll further confirms Obama losing popularity among independents.

Also he refused to take salary as Olympic CEO and Gov. He promised the same as POTUS.
hanzblinx on July 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Just like JFK. I’m not impressed.

If you say you are paying out of your pocket for any care you you received, you are paying to subsidize someone. Most likely for those who do not carry insurance and then become a deadbeat for the bill.

The hospital also charge more for individual paying their own bill than what they charge the insurance plans. Because they have a large number of patients enrolled in their plans, they forced the hospital into giving them a lower rate.

How that translates into a duty to pay money every month to an Insurance Company that goes out and refuses to pay the hospital for 20% to 100% of charges, I don’t know.

If everybody who bought health insurance, got it back in treatment, the insurer goes broke.
So what does it tell you when they don’t go broke?

Why don’t you reform the hotel industry by mandating every American reserve a room? Whether they use it or not?
Why don’t you reform the airlines by mandating every American buy a ticket? Whether they use it or not?

Don’t you want to save jobs?

Makes the same sense–and we don’t need govt to cram it down our throats.

And again–if what is going on in Massachusetts is a sick betrayal of the Romney vision, why is Romney so proud of it?

Dude, the man has paid more taxes then all of hotair put together
hanzblinx on July 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Warren Buffett has paid more taxes than Romney, and he endorsed Obama.

The amount of taxes paid doesn’t indicate whether a candidate is conservative or not.

My mind isn’t closed, though, so feel free to sell me.

Dude, the man has paid more taxes then all of hotair put together. What makes you think he loves them so much? Also he refused to take salary as Olympic CEO and Gov. He promised the same as POTUS. He doesn’t think taxes, big gov are the solution.

Romney on the other hand has a proven record at running very big organizations and is the right man at the right time.

scotash on July 22, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Sorry, but your argument makes no sense to me. Experience doesn’t matter much for if you also happen to be a RINO (which Romney is).

Romney is the man for the job.

My reasoning:

We elected no-experience Obama and expected the country to run smoothly.

Stop and think how strange our collective expectation was.

How can we expect no-experience Palin to run the country smoothly?

Eventually the law of natural consequences will intervene if we keep electing leaders just because they excite a certain segment of the population but are unskilled at running things.

Romney on the other hand has a proven record at running very big organizations and is the right man at the right time.

scotash on July 22, 2009 at 1:12 AM

the problem with obama is not his inexperience, its that he’s a moron, doesn’t understand the economy and is only concerned with paying off his pals and favorite special interests and securing more power for himself and over you.

I need convincing that Romney is not a big government type and would bring real change to washington. so far, I think hhe’s a competent Rudy type executive, but am unconvinced he gets it on cutting the size and scope of government, the importance of US energy independence, immigration, and a host of other issues. My mind isn’t closed, though, so feel free to sell me.

Let me fill you in with another tidbit just released by PPP polling on its July 20th poll:

Remember in terms of favorablilites among all Republicans Sarah leads all GOP contenders at 76% (Romney is at 54). And yesterday we learned that Sarah was leading among moderate Republicans at 64% (Mitt was at 45%). And today PPP polling revealed that Sarah leads in favorabilities amongst CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS at 81% (Romney is at 58%).

Folks, Sarah is in tremendous political shape for the 2012 primaries and after July 26th her numbers will go through the roof.

Obama and his war room are terrified by Sarah.

technopeasant on July 22, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Thanks for digging into the details of the latest PPP.

Since July 3, when Sarah announced her resignation, it has been fun to watch so many EXPERTS get it the analysis totally wrong.

Many said she would fade and her chances were gone blah blah blah.

I knew it was a brilliant and bold move on her part. But you had to be aware of certain facts, the details on the ground in AK, and the law suits, to see it.

You can not buy health insurance, you just forfeit your standard personal deduction when you pay your state income tax.
Does a private citizen has the right to require other people digging into their pocket to pay for your health care because you claim you have the right not to buy insurance or then you do not pay your medical bill because you do not have insurance and you spent your money for your plasma TV?

bayview on July 22, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I don’t “claim” to have the right to not buy insurance, dude, I do have that right. and i don’t believe in any socialized medicine, so wouldn’t expect anyone to pay for my health care, thats a straw man argument. I don’t think we should be subsidizing anyones health care, except children, and certainly not illegal aliens as we are now. Again, it comes down to basic freedoms, the freedom to choose my own plan or none at all, and my own doctors as well. You want to sacrifice self determination in exchange for some warm and fuzzy feeling of security thats going to be illusory anyway.

I
PAY
MY
BILLS
FOR
SERVICES
RENDERED.

I won’t pay YOURS by buying a useless plan from YOUR insurance company–just because.
Or do you only get back what you pay in premiums?

Chris_Balsz on July 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM

If you say you are paying out of your pocket for any care you you received, you are paying to subsidize someone. Most likely for those who do not carry insurance and then become a deadbeat for the bill.

The hospital also charge more for individual paying their own bill than what they charge the insurance plans. Because they have a large number of patients enrolled in their plans, they forced the hospital into giving them a lower rate.

Obama and his war room are terrified by Sarah.

technopeasant on July 22, 2009 at 1:43 PM

I presume his war room is made up of primarily journalists…

Since you do not want to” benefit” the for profit system, you can choose to stay home when you are sick and die at home. Just do not ask us to pay for your medical bill or your funeral expense.
(You know the funeral industry is also for profit, you should stay as you were in your death bed.)

You have the right not to buy health insurance, You do not have the right for a free ride at some other people’s expense.

I
PAY
MY
BILLS
FOR
SERVICES
RENDERED.

I won’t pay YOURS by buying a useless plan from YOUR insurance company–just because.
Or do you only get back what you pay in premiums?

Thinkaboutit.

Long answer: Why would you subsidize a for-profit that fails when it charges too much? First you write a blank check to for-profit industries, then berate me for a lack of “civic duty” when I refuse to keep it afloat by shopping at the company store of HMOs??
Chris_Balsz on July 22, 2009 at 1:41 PM

You can choose to do whatever you want to. Just do not expect somebody else to pay for your choice. Since you do not want to” benefit” the for profit system, you can choose to stay home when you are sick and die at home. Just do not ask us to pay for your medical bill or your funeral expense.
(You know the funeral industry is also for profit, you should stay as you were in your death bed.)

You have the right not to buy health insurance, You do not have the right for a free ride at some other people’s expense.

Remember in terms of favorablilites among all Republicans Sarah leads all GOP contenders at 76% (Romney is at 54). And yesterday we learned that Sarah was leading among moderate Republicans at 64% (Mitt was at 45%). And today PPP polling revealed that Sarah leads in favorabilities amongst CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS at 81% (Romney is at 58%).

Folks, Sarah is in tremendous political shape for the 2012 primaries and after July 26th her numbers will go through the roof.

Obama and his war room are terrified by Sarah.

Does a private citizen has the right to require other people digging into their pocket to pay for your health care because you claim you have the right not to buy insurance or then you do not pay your medical bill because you do not have insurance and you spent your money for your plasma TV?

YES.

Short answer.
Long answer: Why would you subsidize a for-profit that fails when it charges too much? First you write a blank check to for-profit industries, then berate me for a lack of “civic duty” when I refuse to keep it afloat by shopping at the company store of HMOs??

Why not float GM by requiring every American lease a Jeep? You don’t want endless bailouts, do you? DO YOU? Well then! Get in line, peon!