Rasmussen: Obama 45, Romney 45; Obama 48, Palin 42

posted at 2:11 pm on July 20, 2009 by Allahpundit

This says more about the downturn in The One’s approval ratings than it does about Mitt or Sarahcuda, but you know the Hot Air policy: You can never have too many 2012 polls.

Just 21% of voters nationwide say Palin should run as an independent if she loses the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. Sixty-three percent (63%) say the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee should not run as an independent. Sixteen percent (16%) are not sure.

If Romney secured the GOP nomination and Palin chose to run as an independent candidate, Obama would win the resulting three-way race with 44% of the vote. Romney is the choice of 33% of the voters under that scenario, with Palin a distant third with 16% support. Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided…

When Romney is the Republican nominee, he beats Obama among unaffiliated voters 48% to 41%. But when Palin is the GOP candidate, unaffiliated voters prefer Obama by a 47% to 41% margin…

In a three-way race, Palin hurts Romney by drawing 28% Republican support. Romney captures 52% of the GOP vote in that scenario.

Lest anyone doubt how overwhelming Palin’s support is among the HA readership, compare those boldfaced numbers to the results of our own poll last Monday. We love you guys, but in case it wasn’t clear from last year’s primaries, a mirror image of Republican voters you ain’t.

Question: Why didn’t Rasmussen poll Obama vs. Huckabee? Public Policy Polling has its own set of 2012 hypothetical match-ups out today and Huck fares best among the big three, trailing The One by six points — the fourth time in as many PPP polls that he’s been Obama’s toughest challenge. Palin trails by eight and Romney by nine (despite doing relatively well with black voters). The most interesting detail comes from another PPP poll taken last week, though: Contrary to expectations, Palin is viewed favorably by 86 percent of Republican voters in the northeast, fully 10 points higher than she is in the south. I’m not sure what explains that — maybe the Republican base in New England has now shrunk to a Hot-Air-ish molten red core so that, paradoxically, “true conservatives” fare better up there than RINOs (see, e.g., Toomey and Specter in Pennsylvania) — but needless to say, it could mean trouble for Romney. If Palin does run, it’s easy to imagine her leveraging evangelicals to squeak through in Iowa; an upset in New Hampshire immediately after that would make her the prohibitive favorite. Expect Team Mitt to work quietly behind the scenes between now and then to make sure as many GOP primaries as possible are open ones.

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Lourdes must be new picking a fight with Upinak.

That’d be like me walking into the Dodger bleachers with my Giants shirt and cap with a screw Jackie Robinson sign.

Not smart honey.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 9:56 PM

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Agreed… it’s getting to the point where no one will even pay attention to the attacks… automatically assume it’s bogus.

BPD on July 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM

In here lies the crux of the argument….Palin’s has been attacked again and again, and yet, she still believes in her conservative values. She has not flipped and flopped like lesser men that have allowed the media and others to
shake her.
ANd yes, it has all been said, and she still stands. If I agree with her stances, I will support her.

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 9:54 PM

What about your own state or even your neighbors? The closer you are, the more likely you can have an impact. Have you looked for congressional candidates nearby? Do you have any good prospects? If you do, encourage them, talk to them, send them lots of money. I hear you ditch diggers are rolling in it.

Or, do you live in total blue territory, like me?

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM

They could do better, but the MSM won’t let them through anyway. So, Blogs, Tweeter, Facebook, talk radio, person to person, etc.

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Kind of like Iran and the state run media……
I didn’t get my fruit cup.

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM

HOTAIR POLL!

Is Lourdes another Allahpundit plant, like….AnninCA?

1) No. AP would never do that.
2) No. That’s because she is another’s plant.
3) No. Because AnninCA and Lourdes are…the same person.
4) UBETCHA!!!

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM

4

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 10:01 PM

RICHMOND, Va. — A billionaire co-founder of the Black Entertainment Television network and an influential Democratic donor on Monday endorsed Republican Bob McDonnell for governor…

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Good news. Here’s the Fox link.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Baby steps, baby steps. First get the R, then get an R that means something. He won’t be able to govern like Gov. Corzine, these people love Democrats and they can barely stomach him. I wish Michigan was in play.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I make a comment then come back 5 hours later and you people are still sniping at each other.

If this kind of stuff is an indication of what the republican primaries are going to be like everyone better get used to presidente for life barry. This is no longer politics as usual, our opponent is central American politics and soviet style tactics all rolled into one and they are playing for keeps. If Romney and Palin run against each other they need to keep it principled and all about ideas. huckster is not capable of taking the high road, forget about him. But Romney and Palin need to have an agreement that if they both run for president that at some point one will get over the top and at that point the other needs to come on board full scale and guns blazing at the left. A battered republican candidate with transparent and weak support from a big part of their party will get eaten alive and there will be no 2016. Part of any agreement Romney and Palin have should be to both work hard to get as many seats back in 2010. I think Romney is the guy but would be happy with Palin. A united Romney/Palin, who had treated each other with respect and dignity throughout the race, would be unbeatable because this country is going to be a mess in 2012 and the corruption in washington will be out of control.

peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

When this gets out………

……….. Obama will be on TV 24/7.

Oh, never mind…….

(looks like pushing huge spending bills through Congress with no one reading them has finally left a nasty rash on the American public)

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM

We might actually be able to take back Congress in 2010.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 9:34 PM

This statement made me bite my lip to read. This same thought, same glimmer of hope has crossed my mind at least twice in the past week given all that is happening.

But I’m still afraid to think on it for very long…

Miss Molly on July 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Wow, that’s interesting. I am not in Virginia right now so I know nothing of the Democrat candidate but he must be less then impressive.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM

(looks like pushing huge spending bills through Congress with no one reading them has finally left a nasty rash on the American public)

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Not a nasty enough rash…

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM

No. Because AnninCA and Lourdes are…the same person.

If that’s true I’ve got to hand it to her, she’s good.

peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:06 PM

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Here you go, sweet violet.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Or, do you live in total blue territory, like me?

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM

As strange as it may seem, I live in Seminole County.
Which was THE one county that was instrumental in W.’s win in 2000.
If it wasn’t for Skeletor in my closet, I’d run. If i had the backing.
I have pros and cons.
Pro: I have a very big mouth, prone to doing HRC and Algore impressions.
Con: I’m extremely offensive. This little spat between Dorian and Lourdes? Let some little b1tch run her yap against Sarah and I go ballistic.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Wow, that’s interesting. I am not in Virginia right now so I know nothing of the Democrat candidate but he must be less then impressive.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM

The reason given for the endorsement was centered on economic issues.

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Lourdes—I have read your treates against Gov. Palin and I have a suggestions for you.

Go eat some ConeyIsland whitefish with a side order Rocky mountain oysters.

Clyde5445 on July 20, 2009 at 10:08 PM

(looks like pushing huge spending bills through Congress with no one reading them has finally left a nasty rash on the American public)

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The best solution for a rash is petroleum jelly. But due to global warming…

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:09 PM

HA readership, ……..a mirror image of Republican voters you ain’t

That’s a HUGE compliment to the Palin supporters, AP

Red State State of Mind on July 20, 2009 at 10:09 PM

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Here you go, sweet violet violence.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Thanks!

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM

As strange as it may seem, I live in Seminole County.
Which was THE one county that was instrumental in W.’s win in 2000.
If it wasn’t for Skeletor in my closet, I’d run. If i had the backing.
I have pros and cons.
Pro: I have a very big mouth, prone to doing HRC and Algore impressions.
Con: I’m extremely offensive. This little spat between Dorian and Lourdes? Let some little b1tch run her yap against Sarah and I go ballistic.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Yea, I have been trying to get some support to run against Barbra Boxer here in California. I dont have any money but I do have a big mouth dont seem to mind or notice when I make a fool of myself and am to the right of Ronald Reagan on most issues.

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Allah loves Polling Pr0n

blatantblue on July 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Lourdes reminds me of one of those dainty southern belles like Scarlet O’Hare who is ‘outraged’ at the barbaric behavior of us ordinary barbarians.

It’s actually quite refreshing.

But, it is so easy to spot them when they make basic mistakes like:

1) Blogging for 12 hours straight. Sure sign they are paid or a troll lookin for trouble not answers.

2) Faking outrage at abrasive behavior. This is the blogging world afterall.

3) Mock concern.

4) Trying WAY TO HARD to fit in like her NASCAR remarks.

5) Lack of patience in not building up your rep first. The funny thing is, she could have maybe made some friends. She should try to gradually reintroduce herself to HotAir.

“She coulda been a contenda.”

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM

I have two three big pros and cons.
Con: Pro: I have a very big mouth
Con: prone to doing HRC and Algore impressions.
Con: I’m extremely offensive.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Other than that, you’re perfect.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Oh well, any port in a storm.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Hmm. She reminds me of Madelyn Murray O’Hare :>)

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM

sweet violet violence.

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM

For some strange reason, I have never really wanted to make you angry at me.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Other than that, you’re perfect.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Are you trying to tell me that politics is the art of offending the least or are you intentionally being oblique?;)

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM

sweet violet violence.

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM
For some strange reason, I have never really wanted to make you angry at me.

Loxodonta on July 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I could never be angry with you, Lox. :)

HornetSting on July 20, 2009 at 10:20 PM

NEWT!!!!!

Fireman Mike on July 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM

peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

You aint kiddin.

2011/12 GOP primary could be a kickin battleroyale.

Then follow it up with the main show vs. Obama.

Democracy is so……awesome!!!!

I hope the ethanol BS stops soon so we have enough popcorn to last til Jan. 20th, 2013 when Mommabear takes the oath with little Trig waddlin at her feet like little JFK jr.

And throw in Liz Cheney her running mate with her litter and I can’t think of two warmer families in the cold Jan. air.

LUV IT!

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

NEWT!!!!!

Fireman Mike on July 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Screw Newt.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Yup, people who do the blogging scene tend to understand that every blog is it’s own unique society. Each society has it’s own standards of acceptable behavior. Standards vary according to the nature of the blog and by sub-genre.

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Any thoughts on this:

RICHMOND, Va. — A billionaire co-founder of the Black Entertainment Television network and an influential Democratic donor on Monday endorsed Republican Bob McDonnell for governor.
Sheila Johnson of The Plains, the second-largest individual donor to Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and a benefactor of prominent Democrats including Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb, appeared with McDonnell in Richmond.

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Umm, this is big folks. Creigh Deeds is actually a viable and competitive Democrat well liked across VA. He beat out Terry McAuliffe for the nomination. However, Bob McDonnell is the Republican candidate–is a retired Army LTC and this election is a big referendum on Obama. McDonnell leads Deeds by double to high single digits. Similar to the NJ Governor race, the Dem governor there trails the Republican challenger by double digits as well.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Lourdes is a troll, most likely a paid Romney astroturffer. Generally speaking the lowest of the lowest scum on the entire internet, lower even than kiddy porn makers.

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I’ll presume you’re joking, as I’m sure if Romney wanted to astroturf in Echo County, Internet, he’d at least hire someone who knew their stuff.

thecountofincognito on July 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM

peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Excellent comments…

Red State State of Mind on July 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Is it safe to come out and address the topic of the post again?

Okay.

I think it’s pretty clear that this:

If Romney secured the GOP nomination and Palin chose to run as an independent candidate, Obama would win the resulting three-way race with 44% of the vote. Romney is the choice of 33% of the voters under that scenario, with Palin a distant third with 16% support. Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided…

Is just an excuse for AP to put the words/numbers “Palin,” “third” and “16%” together in a bolded statement to create the impression that she only has 16% support.

Nevermind that the poll actually says something very different.

Nice try.

cs89 on July 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

It’s like each blog is sort of an organism.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM

HA readership, ……..a mirror image of Republican voters you ain’t

That’s a HUGE compliment to the Palin supporters, AP

Red State State of Mind on July 20, 2009 at 10:09 PM

This is what I like about HA. Thinking people rather than sheeple people. Not always perfect but always moving the gray matter around. It’s a plus for people like me who only started paying attention to politics later rather than sooner.

Miss Molly on July 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I’ll presume you’re joking, as I’m sure if Romney wanted to astroturf in Echo County, Internet, he’d at least hire someone who knew their stuff.

thecountofincognito on July 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM

She might not know her stuff, but I’ll bet she has great hair.

Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM

RICHMOND, Va. — A billionaire co-founder of the Black Entertainment Television network and an influential Democratic donor on Monday endorsed Republican Bob McDonnell for governor…

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Errrr…Johnson is a huge lib. What’s the catch here?

SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Screw Newt.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Wait a minute. Newt might not be viable as a candidate, but he has a lot of cred with conservatives because he has lived and breathed fiscal responsibility. He could and should be a major force in the party. In an ideal world, he would knock some sense in Michael Steele, and set the agenda for the party.

Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM

I’ll presume you’re joking, as I’m sure if Romney wanted to astroturf in Echo County, Internet, he’d at least hire someone who knew their stuff.

thecountofincognito on July 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Why would you presume he would spend large amounts of money on small time operatives? Bear in mind, astroturffing has consanguineous for those who do the actual postings.

doriangrey on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Here you go, AP:

(Rush today)

I’m telling you, there’s a lot of talk about third party out there; that we ought to go third party. No. Let me tell you who ought to go third party, the people that hijacked our party: Colin Powell, John McCain, some of these inside-the-Beltway types, let them go form their third party and let us have our Republican Party back. They’re the ones hijacking this party from its days of victory. They’re the ones that can take a hike and form your own third party, as far as I’m concerned.

You know what I’d love to see? I would love to see the party platform of a Colin Powell-led third party. I would love to see the party platform of a Colin Powell, Meghan McCain, John McCain-led third party. And here’s what it would be. I can do it in one sentence. “We believe in the following, but we’re not going to tell you what the following is ’cause if you don’t agree with us, we might agree with you. It just depends.” That would be the party platform of a Colin Powell-led third party.

disa on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Errrr…Johnson is a huge lib. What’s the catch here?

SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 10:33 PM

If that guy is a huge lib in recently blue-red state VA, AND he’s a BET guy (fits the Obama supporter profile) AND he’s supporting Bob McDonnell (the antithesis of big govt guy, good conservative)

do you see the mismatch…. a BET guy supporting … a CONSERVATIVE…WTF Batman!?

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Oh, I had to step out for a little while, so excuse my absense. *channeling Mr. Grace* You’ve all done very well.

Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Newt lost all credibility with me when he agreed with Hillaryrottenclinton.
And don’t get goin’ on global warming.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM

disa on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

good tip, pinch those turds off

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM

People,

Sarah will never run as a third party candidate. The reason is that it would allow Obama to win.

Sarah is WAY to selfless to do that. It is why she decided to resign the governership, because she cares for Alaskans and felt she could not keep to the responsibilities given the ethics complaints and their disruption of the government.

AP brings it up simply to attempt to hurt support for her.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM

ditto that Sting. Ditto that–

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:38 PM

peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I would sure like to see the candidates or possible candidates treat each other as compatriots instead of adversaries. We have too much to loose not to keep differences to policies, not personalities. This thread proves that if you can’t deal with substance it doesn’t take long before it’s just a mess.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM

If that guy is a huge lib in recently blue-red state VA, AND he’s a BET guy (fits the Obama supporter profile) AND he’s supporting Bob McDonnell (the antithesis of big govt guy, good conservative)

do you see the mismatch…. a BET guy supporting … a CONSERVATIVE…WTF Batman!?

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

It is actually Sheila Johnson. Her statement: “From the beginning, Bob McDonnell has been very concerned about the economy,” she said. “He has really laid out a roadmap for solving these problems.”

ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 10:40 PM

pardon my sexist assumption that I thought the BET CEO was a guy.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM

either way, guy or gal–it’s akin to heresy if the BET CEO doesn’t support a Dem/lib/obama supporter candidate–isn’t it? It just doesn’t fit the pattern.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:45 PM

RICHMOND, Va. — A billionaire co-founder of the Black Entertainment Television network and an influential Democratic donor on Monday endorsed Republican Bob McDonnell for governor.

Sheila Johnson of The Plains, the second-largest individual donor to Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and a benefactor of prominent Democrats including Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb, appeared with McDonnell in Richmond.

“I have been a lifelong Democrat and I’m still a Democrat,” she said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Johnson said she favors McDonnell over his Democratic opponent, R. Creigh Deeds, because she thinks the Republican can turn around the state’s ailing economy.

“From the beginning, Bob McDonnell has been very concerned about the economy,” she said. “He has really laid out a roadmap for solving these problems.”

With no limits in Virginia on how much donors can give or candidates can spend in state elections, Johnson’s backing potentially puts a rich source of funding at McDonnell’s disposal, sending a signal to black voters that was already a concern for Deeds and his backers.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:47 PM

You know what I’d love to see? I would love to see the party platform of a Colin Powell-led third party. I would love to see the party platform of a Colin Powell, Meghan McCain, John McCain-led third party. And here’s what it would be. I can do it in one sentence. “We believe in the following, but we’re not going to tell you what the following is ’cause if you don’t agree with us, we might agree with you. It just depends.” That would be the party platform of a Colin Powell-led third party.
disa on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Hahaha.

I don’t have time to listen to Rush much, but every now and then get to see a thought of his like this.

Perfect.

cs89 on July 20, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Where is it written that Romney and Palin can’t make a team of it? In my opinion, they’d be unbeatable. And….I am a northeast conservative and we are not as few as you think. It’s a rural, urban thing like most places. Depends on where they are polling to a large degree.

jeanie on July 20, 2009 at 10:48 PM

2012–Virginia goes back in the red column. Mark my words.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Not only Virginia, but North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, Nevada, and add to these Michigan, Wisconsin, and New Jersey

milemarker2020 on July 20, 2009 at 10:57 PM

2012–Virginia goes back in the red column. Mark my words.

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 10:48 PM

As a resident of liberal northern virginia, I certainly hope so… NoVa will turn out for Deeds, but the large AA population in Richmond and Virginia Beach area will not turn out in record numbers like they did for Obama. Mcconnell will win.

Fingers still crossed for a SP appearance in VA this fall!

BPD on July 20, 2009 at 10:57 PM

I would sure like to see the candidates or possible candidates treat each other as compatriots instead of adversaries. We have too much to loose not to keep differences to policies, not personalities. This thread proves that if you can’t deal with substance it doesn’t take long before it’s just a mess.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM

I agree with you. I have never understood why candidates don’t stand together for the greater good rather than demonize one another personally in order to get an upper hand in a political race. Just think of how much power there is sticking to principals rather than personalities. Conservatives would not be in the position they are now if they could have just stuck with the program.

Miss Molly on July 20, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Miss Molly on July 20, 2009 at 11:02 PM

I am never sure how much of the cattiness the public hears is really the candidates or their campaign staff. I would like to see that stuff eliminated. It would be an excellent test of leadership and a well run campaign.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Newt lost all credibility with me when he agreed with Hillaryrottenclinton.
And don’t get goin’ on global warming.

Lanceman on July 20, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Fair enough. I feel your pain, but I think we need someone who can write a script for Steele, taze Huck and Romney into behaving, and point someone who can win to the White House.

Rove is going to be busy with his lawyers trying to keep the ghouls at bay when the dems pursue prosecutions to help their plummeting poll numbers and distract from the demise fo the republic.

Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Fingers still crossed for a SP appearance in VA this fall!

BPD on July 20, 2009 at 10:57 PM

double dog mega dittoes for that!

ted c on July 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Sarah is from the other side of the tracks politically. She is our Rocky Balboa for 2012. The whole world takes shot after shot at the Cuda, blow after blow, punch after punch. But she still stands with a wink and a smile and bushy tail. Dodge, fade, jab she will.

Every attack makes her followers harden themselves even more and builds up respect for her. She will not give up. Her blade is being folded 1,000 times at the forge.

Pulled out of obscurity like Rocky pulled out of a Philly neighborhood, told to take a dive. But she will not betray her state, her country, her family, herself.

Rocky lost, but won.

Sarah lost, but WILL win.

Feeling Strong Now! Won’t be long Now!

And when it ends, we will hear the words:

“No Rematch!”

And for those who know Spanish:

“No Mas! No Mas!”

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Where is it written that Romney and Palin can’t make a team of it?

jeanie on July 20, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Palin’s never going to be a VP candidate again and be tied to someone else’s campaign, to be stabbed in the back later. Plus, Romney’s too much of a prima donna to have her on the ticket or the be her VP nominee.

ddrintn on July 20, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Romney’s people are conniving backstabbers and he will NEVER be able to keep them in line.

It would be like a rape victim going back to the rapist.

NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM

I am never sure how much of the cattiness the public hears is really the candidates or their campaign staff. I would like to see that stuff eliminated. It would be an excellent test of leadership and a well run campaign.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM

We can dream. We can dream…

Miss Molly on July 20, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Do you have any evidence or fact citation to back up your “conniving backstabbers” accusation?

OneVision on July 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Fingers still crossed for a SP appearance in VA this fall!

BPD on July 20, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Like you, I’d love to attend a SP rally in Northern Virginia. One area of the state that I’d like to see her focus on is rural Virginia, where she can be a huge asset. I understand Deeds is from rural southwest VA. Sarah can help rally rural voters to McConnell (the R candidate) even though they may be more familiar with Deeds in pockets of the state. I heard that her rally during the 2008 in Northern Va (somewhere around Fairfax?) had a huge turnout.

Red State State of Mind on July 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Got in here late, but OBVIOUSLY, this is bad news for Mitt and GREAT NEWS for Sarah

MITT can only go DOWNHILL…. the “fat cat” label, the “big dig” tag, “why are you attacking obama care if you invented romneycare?”, “why did your church ban blacks until 1979?”, “how corrupt were you with the salt lake olympic fraud in 2002?”, “you flip flopped on abortion, any other social issues you’ll be changing your mind on soon?”, etc, etc, etc….. he has been handled with media kid gloves, has no national image of “mitt sucks because of ABC”, and he’s merely at 45%.

PALIN had the kitchen sink thrown at her, media mockery of her accent, hair, glasses, shoes, looks, voice, makeup, fake things about “i see russia”, she gave bad interviews, had SNL after her, had smears (book banning, dinosaurs, church demons, rape kits), lies about her kid (trig as prop, trig is grandkid, etc), lies about her husband (secessionist!), called her stupid, lied about number of colleges (always count the same college twice in their ’6 colleges’ hysteria), ignore things like the natural gas pipeline, call her ‘mayor’ instead of ‘governor’………………………..and she’s at 42%.

THe dems fear palin the most… they’ve thrown everything they can at her — and she’s within striking distance of the deity-child of Chicago.

Mitt can only go down; Palin has bottomed out and can only go UP!

battleoflepanto1571 on July 20, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I make a comment then come back 5 hours later and you people are still sniping at each other.
peacenprosperity on July 20, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I would sure like to see the candidates or possible candidates treat each other as compatriots instead of adversaries. We have too much to loose not to keep differences to policies, not personalities. This thread proves that if you can’t deal with substance it doesn’t take long before it’s just a mess.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM

I would appreciate seeing the candidates AND posters on HotAir treating each other as compatriots. It would look better on our group resume when Independent Americans check us out.

redwhiteblue on July 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM

OneVision on July 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Not on me.

Do you have any evidence that Sarah:

* Thinks Africa is a country, or
* That Sarah is a ‘diva’, or
* That Sarah likes to open the hotel door in a towel, or
* That Sarah and her family went on a spending binge on clothing in NYC using $150k of the RNC’s funds, or

Romney will not wield the knife, but he has followers who have ALREADY broken the 11th commandment. They will wield the knives from now til the GOP primary is done, and maybe even after that.

When did Sarah break the 11th since being picked to run for VP?

When did Sarah attack Romney? He has attacked her with lame jokes on at least two occasions.

But you Rombots never remember that.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:41 PM

AP, it may say more about Obama’s rating than Mitt’s or Sarah’s, but that’s what it’s all about! It’s all about approval ratings. His rating is trending downward and that’s EXACTLY what we need.

Oink on July 20, 2009 at 11:43 PM

I would appreciate seeing the candidates AND posters on HotAir treating each other as compatriots. It would look better on our group resume when Independent Americans check us out.

redwhiteblue on July 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM

I’ll tell you now, I haven’t read through these comments but I don’t have to. I agree with redwhiteblue. Republicans everywhere need to stick together and don’t pick sides until we individually vote. It’s that simple. If we fight amongst ourselves, that means we have our eyes off the ball. That’s EXACTLY what the left will count on. It worked for them during the primary season of 2008!

Oink on July 20, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:41 PM

In one breath you say “not on me,” when asked for evidence, and in another you repeat the unsupported accusation about breaking the 11th Commandment.

All I did was ask for a fact source – no finger-pointing, no name-calling.

Then, strangely, I am called upon to cite evidence for statements about Sarah that I neither made nor support.

The response: “you Rombots.” More name-calling. More finger-pointing.

Posts like Sapwolf’s speak volumes about why the level of debate in threads like this sinks to new lows.

Some of you people are too wound-up to engage in a polite and objective discussion about facts. To those who are, step away from the keyboard, get some rest, and get some perspective while you are at it.

OneVision on July 20, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Oink on July 20, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Fine. Call the Rombots off Sarah and we’ll talk.

And just maybe, just maybe, we’ll convince Upinak to take a vacation.

Sapwolf on July 20, 2009 at 11:53 PM

As I said 8 hours ago, I’ll take none of the above. Also, I agree with redwhiteblue.

txag92 on July 20, 2009 at 11:54 PM

THe dems fear palin the most… they’ve thrown everything they can at her — and she’s within striking distance of the deity-child of Chicago.

Mitt can only go down; Palin has bottomed out and can only go UP!

battleoflepanto1571 on July 20, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Yeah, true. What I take from the poll is that three points separate Romney and Palin, essentially, which is remarkable considering the sliming Palin’s been through for nearly 11 months now. But who knows if she’ll even be running in 2012?

ddrintn on July 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Oink:

I would be the first to agree that Obama’s falling numbers have contributed to the closeness of the poll numbers.

Romney has worked hard to be where he is since the beginning of the year. He deserves it.

But what is the real story is how Sarah Palin could be only 6 points behind the Messiah with him getting 24/7 blanket coverage from the MSM whlle Sarah has been isolated in Alaska for the last 7 and 1/2 months except for her 2 week excursion into NY in June.

A new Sarah will be un veiled and unleashed after July 26th. Let’s see how wide or narrow the gap will be in the fall of 2009.

technopeasant on July 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Hey for all you people ganging up on Lourdes, you should grow up. It’s getting ridiculous.

scotash on July 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM

technopeasant on July 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM

It’s all about how u articulate policy tech…Judging by recent interviews So far, the Governor hasn’t do anything to improve on her flaws….

TimeTraveler on July 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Some of you people are too wound-up to engage in a polite and objective discussion about facts. To those who are, step away from the keyboard, get some rest, and get some perspective while you are at it.

OneVision on July 20, 2009 at 11:52 PM

The again, some of us have been called “delusional Palinistas devoted to our Ice Princess Caribou Barbie” a few too many times.

ddrintn on July 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Judging by recent interviews So far, the Governor hasn’t do anything to improve on her flaws….

TimeTraveler on July 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM

She’s given some good interviews, video and in print.

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM

technopeasant on July 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM

this Caribou Barbie stuff is sexist and it needs to stop. We don’t see me using racist terms when i talk about the president.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:01 AM

None of them have been deep policy interviews. She should have sought help in the last 6 months….. Her time is running out!….

Why hasn’t she gone on meet the press?
Bill Oreilly?

Get ready and go on the show///

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:03 AM

None of them have been deep policy interviews. She should have sought help in the last 6 months….. Her time is running out!….

Why hasn’t she gone on meet the press?
Bill Oreilly?

Get ready and go on the show///

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:03 AM

To this point, why should she? It’s 2009.

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Palin could be huge for the GOP but she’s just a lazy lady.

and those kids she has don’t help the situation.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Mitt Romney, by comparison, hasn’t exactly been giving deep policy interviews lately, either. At least not many that I’m aware of.

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Palin could be huge for the GOP but she’s just a lazy lady.

and those kids she has don’t help the situation.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM

*yawn*

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:06 AM

ddrintn on July 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM

That is unfortunate. Sarah is a strong candidate too and one can overcome name-calling with facts. There is no need to sink to a name-caller’s level. It takes some discipline admittedly to avoid the urge to blow up at such a person, but it can be done.

OneVision on July 21, 2009 at 12:06 AM

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Doesn’t she want to improve her numbers? It would benefit her financial security and/or her political career if she just took the time to brush up on things.

I support her but i feel like she isn’t putting in the work that needs to be done.

It’s all bristol’s fault.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:07 AM

OneVision on July 20, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Are you now admitting you didn’t see or hear Romney’s swipes at Sarah? At CPAC? Or on the Sunday morning show a few weekends ago?

Your camp starts the fight, and then when we punch back, you cry to Mommy and say we are unfair for not providing evidence.

The facts speak for themselves.

Sarah has not touched Romney yet and he has taken swipes at her already.

He started it and the Romneyites want to forget it all until the next swipe he takes.

It’s the same condescending stuff I’ve had to put up with my whole life dealing with that crowd.

She’s not taking a dive, and her supporters are not either, despite the fact she has not broken the 11th yet vs. Mitt.

You talk unity, but it is hollow just like Mitt’s words.

Sapwolf on July 21, 2009 at 12:08 AM

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:06 AM

This is the only reason why Mitt is polling well. If Palin were to put in the work in the last 6 months, She would’ve ran away with the nomination.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Everytime I see that lady I can’t think why people would see her so negatively. She seems like such a nice lady but she needs to put in the work.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM

This is the only reason why Mitt is polling well. If Palin were to put in the work in the last 6 months, She would’ve ran away with the nomination.

TimeTraveler on July 21, 2009 at 12:08 AM

We’re still 3 years away from the friggin’ primaries. I think Mitt needs to come out strongly against ObamaCare. I don’t think he will, though.

The reason Romney is polling so well is that he hasn’t been through quite the same wringer Palin has, yet.

ddrintn on July 21, 2009 at 12:12 AM

This is the best Mitt will ever do maybe hit 50% one time, but Sarah has all kinds of room to grow.

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Firebird on July 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Balls!

darwin on July 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

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