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	<title>Comments on: Governors begin to realize who will pay the ObamaCare bills</title>
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		<title>By: Some Questions for Proponents of a National Government Run Health Insurance System &#171; Sixteen Small Stones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Questions for Proponents of a National Government Run Health Insurance System &#171; Sixteen Small Stones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the states anyway with the threat of withheld funds from the national government. Many state Governors oppose the plan because they know that they will be the ones who have to implement it by national mandate. This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ObamaCare budget trick uses the expansion of state medicaid to hide expenses. &#171; The IUSB Vision Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ObamaCare budget trick uses the expansion of state medicaid to hide expenses. &#171; The IUSB Vision Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Morrissey at Hotair.com comments: In fact, the Times reports that this message was unanimous.  Every one of the versions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Republican's Solution to Health Care Reform - More Freedom? &#124; The Patriot's Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Republican's Solution to Health Care Reform - More Freedom? &#124; The Patriot's Mind</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] is covering up the Republican&#8217;s solution to health care reform in this country? With the Democrat&#8217;s solution representing 1.5 trillion in taxpayer costs, producing a massive centralized government to control [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bloggless</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloggless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sen. Richard Burr (R(ino)-NC) was saying this on WPTF 2 weeks ago. They are just transferring the costs onto Medicaid.

SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You from Cacalacky?  Where abouts?  Burr is our only hope.  Hagan would never stray from the Obama crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sen. Richard Burr (R(ino)-NC) was saying this on WPTF 2 weeks ago. They are just transferring the costs onto Medicaid.</p>
<p>SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You from Cacalacky?  Where abouts?  Burr is our only hope.  Hagan would never stray from the Obama crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: bloggless</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloggless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be huge cuts in medicare, because there will be huge cuts in the &quot;elderly&quot;.  

There will be huge cuts in prenatal care because there will huge cuts in &quot;prenatals&quot;.

There will be huge cuts in newborn care because there will be huge cuts in &quot;newborns&quot;.


Currently, black women have the highest rate of overweight and obesity in the country.  Will they be punished for not losing weight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be huge cuts in medicare, because there will be huge cuts in the &#8220;elderly&#8221;.  </p>
<p>There will be huge cuts in prenatal care because there will huge cuts in &#8220;prenatals&#8221;.</p>
<p>There will be huge cuts in newborn care because there will be huge cuts in &#8220;newborns&#8221;.</p>
<p>Currently, black women have the highest rate of overweight and obesity in the country.  Will they be punished for not losing weight?</p>
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		<title>By: Pelayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest we repeal the 17th Amendment and select Senators as the Founders intended, selected by governors or state legislatures.  Then the Senators would represent the State or the governor.  In absence of the 17th, this Obama Care crap would never see the light of day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest we repeal the 17th Amendment and select Senators as the Founders intended, selected by governors or state legislatures.  Then the Senators would represent the State or the governor.  In absence of the 17th, this Obama Care crap would never see the light of day.</p>
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		<title>By: NebraskaPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>NebraskaPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama: The Life Altering Game He is Playing with Your Healthcare...&lt;/strong&gt;

Can you believe any of his cost estimates? Remember how the President keeps saying that Obamacare will save money? Well, one way he can claim that is if he rigs the system through his treatment of Medicare and Medicaid. But as you will see, ultimately,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama: The Life Altering Game He is Playing with Your Healthcare&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Can you believe any of his cost estimates? Remember how the President keeps saying that Obamacare will save money? Well, one way he can claim that is if he rigs the system through his treatment of Medicare and Medicaid. But as you will see, ultimately,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Richard Burr (R(ino)-NC) was saying this on WPTF 2 weeks ago.  They are just transferring the costs onto Medicaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Richard Burr (R(ino)-NC) was saying this on WPTF 2 weeks ago.  They are just transferring the costs onto Medicaid.</p>
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		<title>By: holdfast</title>
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		<dc:creator>holdfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare in Canada was originally 50/50 Federal and Provincial.  Now the Feds still write the rules via the Canada Health Act, but IIRC, they pay about 25% of the freight - this has crushed the budget of every province except Alberta - squeezing out necessary spending on infrastructure and post-secondary education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare in Canada was originally 50/50 Federal and Provincial.  Now the Feds still write the rules via the Canada Health Act, but IIRC, they pay about 25% of the freight &#8211; this has crushed the budget of every province except Alberta &#8211; squeezing out necessary spending on infrastructure and post-secondary education.</p>
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		<title>By: Archimedes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archimedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to see what got Obama into the best schools in the USA, considering he was just a poor black child from Chicago’s Wouth Side, dont’cha know.

Key West Reader on July 20, 2009 at 6:35 PM


This meme is utter misdirection, Obama was begot by a Kenyan party apparatchik/Minister Of Trans and a spoiled  daughter of weathy commie parents. The so called humble beginings where Anne Dunham attended the &quot;little red church on the hill&quot; was located on Mercer Isl. WA. An exclusive patch of land on Lake Washinton and where Bill Gates &lt;em&gt;very humbly&lt;/em&gt; currently resides!


Further, his indoctrination in Hawaii was at an exclusive private school where he was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, the &quot;Frank&quot; of Dreams of my Father. A former editor for the commie rag &quot;The Chicago Star&quot; outta Hyde Pk. An upscale &#039;hood where both he and Ayer&#039;s now reside.



Hyde Pk. has long been the hot bed of American communism and Progressive politics, ala FDR&#039;s stomping grounds.


The length and breadth of the connections is a bloody labryinth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to see what got Obama into the best schools in the USA, considering he was just a poor black child from Chicago’s Wouth Side, dont’cha know.</p>
<p>Key West Reader on July 20, 2009 at 6:35 PM</p>
<p>This meme is utter misdirection, Obama was begot by a Kenyan party apparatchik/Minister Of Trans and a spoiled  daughter of weathy commie parents. The so called humble beginings where Anne Dunham attended the &#8220;little red church on the hill&#8221; was located on Mercer Isl. WA. An exclusive patch of land on Lake Washinton and where Bill Gates <em>very humbly</em> currently resides!</p>
<p>Further, his indoctrination in Hawaii was at an exclusive private school where he was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, the &#8220;Frank&#8221; of Dreams of my Father. A former editor for the commie rag &#8220;The Chicago Star&#8221; outta Hyde Pk. An upscale &#8216;hood where both he and Ayer&#8217;s now reside.</p>
<p>Hyde Pk. has long been the hot bed of American communism and Progressive politics, ala FDR&#8217;s stomping grounds.</p>
<p>The length and breadth of the connections is a bloody labryinth!</p>
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		<title>By: Wethal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wethal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The president has decided — just days before the deadline he himself set for passage of health-care bills in both chambers of Congress — that he wants to create a new and very powerful executive branch agency, the Independent Medicare Advisory Council (IMAC), which would be accountable only to him and have the authority to re-write the Medicare program from top to bottom by executive memo.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NRO Corner. 

Imagine what Obama will do to Medicare, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The president has decided — just days before the deadline he himself set for passage of health-care bills in both chambers of Congress — that he wants to create a new and very powerful executive branch agency, the Independent Medicare Advisory Council (IMAC), which would be accountable only to him and have the authority to re-write the Medicare program from top to bottom by executive memo.</p></blockquote>
<p>NRO Corner. </p>
<p>Imagine what Obama will do to Medicare, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rational Thought on July 20, 2009 at 6:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only problem with this is they will take us down with them.  And being in the political class, eat first of the best at every meal.  Like Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rational Thought on July 20, 2009 at 6:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Only problem with this is they will take us down with them.  And being in the political class, eat first of the best at every meal.  Like Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&quot;- V. I. Lenin 

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” —C.S. Lewis

I would tend to say these sum up Bama and cadre pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&#8221;- V. I. Lenin </p>
<p>“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” —C.S. Lewis</p>
<p>I would tend to say these sum up Bama and cadre pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: notagool</title>
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		<dc:creator>notagool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the evil moron honest about anything?

(hehe.  just joking)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the evil moron honest about anything?</p>
<p>(hehe.  just joking)</p>
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		<title>By: Rational Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rational Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I don&#039;t give a damn what any democrat governors have to say. If ObamaCare gets through, I&#039;m going to enjoy watching them twist and spin as they tax the hell out of their own citizens to pay for the Messiah&#039;s legacy. They&#039;re &lt;em&gt;democrats&lt;/em&gt;, for God&#039;s sake. What the hell did they think Obama&#039;s presidency would do for their states? Bring them prosperity? Autonomy? Jobs? Puh-leeze. You lie down with fleas, you wake up scratching. Screw &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t give a damn what any democrat governors have to say. If ObamaCare gets through, I&#8217;m going to enjoy watching them twist and spin as they tax the hell out of their own citizens to pay for the Messiah&#8217;s legacy. They&#8217;re <em>democrats</em>, for God&#8217;s sake. What the hell did they think Obama&#8217;s presidency would do for their states? Bring them prosperity? Autonomy? Jobs? Puh-leeze. You lie down with fleas, you wake up scratching. Screw &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Key West Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Key West Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is correct. And if Obama’s transcripts were available, I beleive you would find that both he and Ayer’s studied under them at Columbia and had apt’s a block away from each other.

Archimedes on July 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d be satisfied with his Student application.  After all, we all have children that we&#039;d like to college, now don&#039;t we?  

I just want to see what got Obama into the best schools in the USA, considering he was just a poor black child from Chicago&#039;s Wouth Side, dont&#039;cha know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is correct. And if Obama’s transcripts were available, I beleive you would find that both he and Ayer’s studied under them at Columbia and had apt’s a block away from each other.</p>
<p>Archimedes on July 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be satisfied with his Student application.  After all, we all have children that we&#8217;d like to college, now don&#8217;t we?  </p>
<p>I just want to see what got Obama into the best schools in the USA, considering he was just a poor black child from Chicago&#8217;s Wouth Side, dont&#8217;cha know.</p>
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		<title>By: Archimedes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archimedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has this meme replaced Alinsky as the new favorite? I see it all the time now.

lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy was inspired by Alinsky, so they’re one and the same. I believe Cloward and Piven were both students of Alinksy.

Daggett on July 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM



This is correct. And if Obama&#039;s transcripts were available, I beleive you would find that both he and Ayer&#039;s studied under them at Columbia and had apt&#039;s a block away from each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this meme replaced Alinsky as the new favorite? I see it all the time now.</p>
<p>lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM<br />
The Cloward-Piven strategy was inspired by Alinsky, so they’re one and the same. I believe Cloward and Piven were both students of Alinksy.</p>
<p>Daggett on July 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM</p>
<p>This is correct. And if Obama&#8217;s transcripts were available, I beleive you would find that both he and Ayer&#8217;s studied under them at Columbia and had apt&#8217;s a block away from each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Key West Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Key West Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Q1Eegn2hw

Obama&#039;s 1/2 white brother revealed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Q1Eegn2hw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Q1Eegn2hw</a></p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s 1/2 white brother revealed?</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P(OS)TUS Ogabe is getting pushback from every point on the compass now; I suppose it will be time to steamroller the American people and do what&#039;s &quot;best&quot; for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P(OS)TUS Ogabe is getting pushback from every point on the compass now; I suppose it will be time to steamroller the American people and do what&#8217;s &#8220;best&#8221; for us.</p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The troll comment:)

Scott H on July 20,2009 at 6:25PM.

Scott H: Oops,thanks for the heads up,I stuck my foot in
         my mouth again!:)</description>
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<p>Scott H on July 20,2009 at 6:25PM.</p>
<p>Scott H: Oops,thanks for the heads up,I stuck my foot in<br />
         my mouth again!:)</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Schick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Schick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Calling it “Obamacare” isn’t going to make it somehow less successful. I think a few concessions will be made to make it a “bipartisan” bill, but an overhaul is almost completely certain by the fall at the latest. Screaming about it won’t stop it…just makes you look like an idiot.

dcwvu on July 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM
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Right.  Because it&#039;s the 2 trillion dollar deficit that gets the chicks.</description>
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Calling it “Obamacare” isn’t going to make it somehow less successful. I think a few concessions will be made to make it a “bipartisan” bill, but an overhaul is almost completely certain by the fall at the latest. Screaming about it won’t stop it…just makes you look like an idiot.</p>
<p>dcwvu on July 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM
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<p>Right.  Because it&#8217;s the 2 trillion dollar deficit that gets the chicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Archimedes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archimedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cloward-Piven Strategy
Has this meme replaced Alinsky as the new favorite? I see it all the time now.

lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM



Alinsky stressed that success depended on upon infiltrating &amp; co-opting the existing system....



&lt;em&gt;&quot;There&#039;s another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don&#039;t encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let&#039;s not let it happen by &lt;/em&gt;default.&quot;[4]



See, Obama, the chicago communist party renamed the &quot;New Party&quot;, of which Obama was a member and their migration into the structure of the Chicago Democratic party.



Cloward Piven picks up where Alinsky left off, once you&#039;re inside C/P gives a detailed template on how to bring the system to it&#039;s knees. Successfull demonsrated in NYC prior to Gullianni&#039;s restoring some sanity.



ACORN pursued these tactics by the way of Carter&#039;s CRA. Clinton&#039;s/Rubin&#039;s transfer of responsibility for dicey mtg&#039;s from local banks onto Fannie &amp; Freddie&#039;s balance sheets. In the end with taxpayers holding the bag. A text book &quot;manufactured crisis.&quot;



As Alinsky posited....


&lt;em&gt;They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.&lt;/em&gt;



Obama &amp; Co. think they&#039;ve acheived the conditions with the US in such financial distress, for their agenda.</description>
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Has this meme replaced Alinsky as the new favorite? I see it all the time now.</p>
<p>lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM</p>
<p>Alinsky stressed that success depended on upon infiltrating &amp; co-opting the existing system&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families &#8211; more than seventy million people &#8211; whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don&#8217;t encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let&#8217;s not let it happen by </em>default.&#8221;[4]</p>
<p>See, Obama, the chicago communist party renamed the &#8220;New Party&#8221;, of which Obama was a member and their migration into the structure of the Chicago Democratic party.</p>
<p>Cloward Piven picks up where Alinsky left off, once you&#8217;re inside C/P gives a detailed template on how to bring the system to it&#8217;s knees. Successfull demonsrated in NYC prior to Gullianni&#8217;s restoring some sanity.</p>
<p>ACORN pursued these tactics by the way of Carter&#8217;s CRA. Clinton&#8217;s/Rubin&#8217;s transfer of responsibility for dicey mtg&#8217;s from local banks onto Fannie &amp; Freddie&#8217;s balance sheets. In the end with taxpayers holding the bag. A text book &#8220;manufactured crisis.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Alinsky posited&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.</em></p>
<p>Obama &amp; Co. think they&#8217;ve acheived the conditions with the US in such financial distress, for their agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canopfor:

The troll comment wasn&#039;t directed at you. ;)</description>
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<p>The troll comment wasn&#8217;t directed at you. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Del Dolemonte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del Dolemonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;just makes you look like an idiot.

dcwvu on July 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From an expert on the subject. getalife.</description>
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<p>dcwvu on July 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>From an expert on the subject. getalife.</p>
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		<title>By: ROCnPhilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROCnPhilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad press and the cap and trade energy tax gets shelved.
Bad press and the healthcare takeover gets shelved.

Looks like screaming does &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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Bad press and the healthcare takeover gets shelved.</p>
<p>Looks like screaming does <em>something</em>.</p>
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