Video: ObamaCare may fund abortions
posted at 12:45 pm on July 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Will ObamaCare use taxpayer money to fund abortions? Chris Wallace asks budget director Peter Orszag the explosive question on Fox News Sunday today, and Orszag attempts to dodge it. Wallace presses him for an answer on whether the White House will rule that out, and Orszag declines to do so. However, the answer is rather obvious:
Barack Obama and the Democrats, especially those on the hard Left, want two things. They want unfettered access to abortion on demand, which they will pursue through the Freedom of Choice Act … eventually, if Obama’s polling numbers stop sliding. That effort can also be accomplished through a health-care reform bill that provides a “public plan” as a Trojan horse for taxpayer-funded abortions. After all, universal care means universal coverage, and pro-abortion Democrats believe that abortions are an integral part of gynecology.
That isn’t limited to just the pro-abortion Democrats, either. Harry Reid, who advertises himself as “pro-life” said in March that he would vote for a health-care bill that provided taxpayer-funded abortions. There will be few if any Democrats in Congress that will stop health-care reform on the basis of taxpayer funding for abortions.
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Same entity “serviced” by Government:
Same kid/same “mother”
Option 1: I want the baby. (Prenatal car)
Option 2: I don’t want the baby. (It’s a tumor, kill it)
Only a woman could understand logic like that.
Jeff from WI on July 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Do not got too distracted by that ‘reconcillation’ story.
That process will not allow for new funding and this turkey of an idea needs trillions.
Freddy on July 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D.-Md.) slipped an amendment into the Senate health care bill that would allow the administration to mandate that insurance companies cover abortion and taxpayers pay for it.
CommentGuy on July 19, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Alright. That does it. I’m sick of Reid and his b.s. It’s time to start pressuring the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to excommunicate him, nothing he stands for jibes with their worldview, or their afterworld view. His Temple Recommend needs to be pulled.
TinMan13 on July 19, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Thomas Aquinas would point out that one oughtn’t obey an unjust law; are you ready and willing to defy it? That’s a question to take up.
Fallen Sparrow on July 19, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Maybe Mitt Romney can help you with that…………..
Seven Percent Solution on July 19, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I really do not understand the left. How can the same people who will riot in the street chanting that they don’t want the government deciding if they can have an abortion, now see it as a great idea for the government to decide if they can have an appendectomy? Really, what am I missing in that logic?
MikeA on July 19, 2009 at 10:33 PM
It is an absence of logic. You will drive yourself mad trying to understand it. Work to defeat it.
daesleeper on July 19, 2009 at 11:05 PM
This has been bugging me all day. I finally have it.
Tell me he doesn’t look like he could be the kid of the guy who played the nerdy Eugene Felnic in Grease (1978). The actor’s name is Eddie Deezen.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm235838208/nm0214430
BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Steele talks about Obamacare. It sounds like there are plans to do a series of ads.
Terrye on July 20, 2009 at 7:02 AM
And while you are at it, please get those Catholic pro-life poiticians excommunicated! And please don’t get the idea that my dislike of the Catholic Church has anything to do with my plea.
thuja on July 20, 2009 at 7:15 AM
Gosh darn. I should never post immediately upon getting up.
I meant Catholic pro-choice politicians should be excommunicated, as should be obvious. But I’m betting morons will make a big deal out of an obvious slip.
thuja on July 20, 2009 at 7:21 AM
I guess. But it is mind boggling that there are so many people, assumbly about half of 350 million of us, that are afflicted with this mental deficit. More than a little scary, especially now that they are running the country. Peole who can’t grasp such simple logic should not be running anything.
MikeA on July 20, 2009 at 7:28 AM
Why is it that pro-abortion never want to talk about what’s being chosen — the deliberate killing of a helpless, innocent baby?
I’m trying to get through to some pro-abortion liberals (oops, that’s redundant) by pointing out that abortion is devastating the black population of this country. As I pointed out on another thread, data from the Guttmacher Institute (BFF with Planned Parenthood), by way of the National Right to Life Committee, shows that black women of child-bearing age constitute only 14% of America’s population, but they have 32% of the abortions.
Almost HALF of black pregnancies end in abortion, but only about one in six white pregnancies.
Planned Parenthood puts around 70% of their abortuaries in or near minority neighborhoods.
The majority of American people enthusiastically put Obama and his fellow babykillers into office. If there is a God in whose image these babies are made, our country is headed for a cosmic kidney punch.
People who aren’t racist should be appalled by those figures. Please pass the numbers on to any one you can. For more info, visit nrlc.org or protectingblacklife.org.
KyMouse on July 20, 2009 at 8:07 AM
sure its cheaper than 9 months of pregnancy care including ultrasound and birth. also one less person to care for.
Abortion is being used as birth control. A woman has aright to say no, a right to say do not enter, use a condom, or use birth control, but once pregnant, the child has the right to life.
Ed Laskie on July 20, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Their is no doubt:
He has gone on record supporting abortions, gambling, and he does not condemn the dem party endorsing same sex marriage.
All of those are explicitly Mormon policy…no gambling, or support in any way.
No endorsement, or support in any way of same sex partners.
Abortion in only a few exceptional cases.
Any other person would be “dumped” by the Mormon leadership.
right2bright on July 20, 2009 at 8:55 AM
All I want to know is how early-term can we abort this Presidency?
bluelightbrigade on July 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Three strikes of the staff on the floor and Reid will be excommunicated, I cannot wait. It’s not his soul on trial, it will be his membership in the Church. God has final say on his soul.
Ed Laskie on July 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM
The Mormons probably figure why give up the money and prestigue of having a member in power if the Catholics leave lots of pro-abortion people in for the exact same reason.
In the end with both religions, it boils down to $$$$$
Jeff from WI on July 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Herb on July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Only for Obama and Congressional and Senate democrats!
Nalea on July 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Thought that the Dems and neo-statist were for the people? sarc/.
hawkman on July 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Wow – a bigoted comment on Hot Air – whoda thunk it?
corona on July 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Everyone is going to find themselves anti-abortion when care gets rationed. If you have to wait 12 hours in the emergency room for your sick child to be seen by a doctor, or your mom waits six months for a hip replacement, you’ll question every procedure that is done and why, including abortion.
Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Aren’t long waits and sub-standard care intentional? The longer the wait the better the chance someone dies while waiting and therefore the government doesn’t have to spend money for treatment. Unhygenic hospitals, not providing medicine because of cost, that’ll end up killing people too. That’s cost effective … right?
That’s what’s happening in Canada … people waiting just die and Voila! no money spent!
darwin on July 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM
???
darwin on July 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM
This Orzag twit is the perfect example of the brainless fawning empty-suits making up the entire Empty Suit administration. This guy has never had a DATE, yet they let him go on national television and blather?
bradley11 on July 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM
As far as lobotomies go, I think Nancy Pelosi has already had several, masquerading as Botox treatments. It’s the only explanation for her present existence.
bradley11 on July 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Peter Orszag … how old is that guy? Is there anyone in the Obama administration that has actual real work experience in their related field? Seems they are all either wet-behind-the-ears intellectuals or old politicians.
Texas Gal on July 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM
That’s the great thing about Obamacare. There’s something in it for everyone to hate. The only ones who really love it are the politicians who will force it upon the rest of us. And guess what we will do about it. That’s right. We will reelect our scum representative while we urge the other guy to vote his representative out.
SKYFOX on July 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Can we abort obama yet?
ErinF on July 20, 2009 at 1:11 PM
I saw one on Fox news channel this morning and was frankly disgusted by it.
Two Mid Age folks discussing how everyone deserves care and we should take politics out of it.
It was hard not to spew up my wheaties at that point.
anj413 on July 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Obamacare: The first SHOVEL READY project we’ve seen thus far.
Obama started CPR on Obamacare on Friday afternoon.
His sycophants like Orzsag continued pumping on its chest on Sunday talk shows.
He planned a little presser for Wednesday…
He knew the patient may be dead by then…
So he had to get out there and keep defibrillating today.
Obamacare is bleeding profusely, it’s lungs are full of fluid, Dr. Obamastein is bagging the hell out of it.
All the rational people are backing away from the table and taking their gloves off–the masks pulled down… eyes low.
Obama’s instructions: KEEP WORKING, ahhhghh KEEP PUMPING, we have to keep it alive!
—the patient dies… it wasn’t meant to be.
There’s a grassy plot right next to another relative, HillaryCare….
It’s Shovel ready….. let’s bury it.
ted c on July 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Ed and AP:
I dare you to ask the question: “Is Obamacare Shovel Ready?”
I double dog dare you
ted c on July 20, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I would gladly defy it and suffer whatever temporal consequences there would be to do it. The problem is that I am just a worker bee and my taxes are withheld without my express consent or any action on my part. I am not wealthy enough to have to pay at the end of the year so I wouldn’t know how to go about not paying. This health care debacle will require people who pay quarterly or yearly to pay a surtax, they are the ones who will need to stand up and say no.
Jvette on July 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM
GET BACK TO YOUR BATHHOUSE, BOY, AND LET THE ADULTS TAKE OVER.
texaninfidel on July 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Sure they’ll fund abortions. If we ever get to the full swing Obamacare I can’t imagine abortions wouldn’t eventually be government mandated. Hey, a single welfare Mom, not working, on their 2,3,4,5th kid… So much for womens rights or choice. It might seem a bit pessimistic view but I could see it becoming law the way things seem to be going- the government wouldn’t be able to afford not to… And they won’t be able to afford my hip replacement someday when I turn 61 and have been forced onto national healthcare.
wubu on July 20, 2009 at 8:53 PM
I know that it has probably been said already… But, funding them, mandating them, even doing them to his own kids… It’s all about paying that debt to the Devil.
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The Sacrificial lambs at the altar of Obama‘s rise to power.
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RalphyBoy on July 20, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT’s Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.
It’s worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer’s footprints all over it.
Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman’s)
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill – YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill – Govt will have real-time access 2 individuals’ finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill – Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example – Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members – U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors/ #AMA – The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you’ll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expandpg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 – Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 – Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy – Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 – The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
Your payments will be collected by IRS. If you are cutting it close, your rent check may bounce.
seven on July 22, 2009 at 9:32 AM
I think there should be some kind of charity fund, where rich liberals can send contributions to fund abortions, instead of using taxpayers’ money.
All it needs is a really cool acronym.
disa on July 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM
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