Obama promises: I won’t sign any health-care bill that adds to the deficit
posted at 12:55 pm on July 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
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That’s how the Times is spinning it, but read the fine print. What he actually says is he won’t sign any bill that adds to our deficits over the next decade. The One knows this is a sinkhole in the long run even if it isn’t in the short run — which, per the CBO, it almost certainly is. No worries, though: “I don’t believe that government can or should run health care,” he assures us, ignoring the fact that he once famously said he doesn’t want to run the auto companies … a month after he forced the chairman of GM into early retirement. No wonder some prominent Democrats now want to, um, run the auto companies.
Oh, and he’s still lying about letting you keep your current insurance if you like it, oblivious to the reality of what’ll happen to private insurers forced to compete with a program backed by the Treasury Department’s printing presses. But then, as he candidly says here, “I … don’t think insurance companies should have free reign to do as they please.” That’s Obamanomics in a nutshell. Make sure to read Betsy McCaughey’s rejoinder in today’s New York Post about the difference between your current health plan, the “qualified plan” you’ll be forced to choose under ObamaCare, and the penalties you’ll pay if you prefer not to “qualify.” Should be a fun presser on Wednesday night.
Update: Looking on the bright side, at least we know now what his next bald-faced revisionist lie about his record will be. How many months or years before he treats us to this: “But let me be clear. We have never denied that health-care reform might temporarily add to our deficits.”
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Anninca is an entire nut orchard.
I thought you only came out at night, dark.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
I can tell you mine is supposed to be a Blue Dog that votes with Pelosi all the time. He is tied up with Murtha too, aren’t I lucky? He’s a waste.
The real Blue Dogs are scared though and the Progressives think this is not socialist enough. Their constituents (the HuffPO crew) are a scary bunch. I think there are lots of scared people in the House. Ted was right though in the mean time Grassley is one to focus on.
msmveritas on July 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
And millions of healthy young people who choose not to pay premiums through their employers. Rope them in, make them pay and they subsidize the older and sicker – which is exactly what they are currently opting out of.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I’m a prolific nut. Used to live in TX and claim it as “home state”
so I’s got my street cred to mess w/ Texas…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Ditto, I have called his office several times.
txmomof6 on July 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Do I have hypoxia? What’s our altitude?
Shouldn’t I be on oxygen now?
Wow, look at THAT!
DarkCurrent on July 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
I fear Grassley is looking to be “historic”. Is his name on any of the versions of the bill, as a co-sponsor?
Fearsome legacy for a guy like Chuck – to go down in Wikipedia history as the author of the Baucus/Grassley bill.
Vanity, thy name is Chuck.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Grassley’s office told me that he is NOT on board with a socialization plan. He is close w/ Baucus though and Baucus is under the gun to get something done. Heck, hit Baucus too, wear him down. I’d hate to see Grassley turn. Call Grassley and profess support for his position against such a bill.
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
You LIVED in Texas, you’re not FROM Texas….we don’t use words like ’street cred’…so, no, you can’t mess with Texas.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
you can when you were messing w/ txag in jive about 1/2 hour ago.
and yes, I can use that there—lemme guess F-18?
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Good point.
darwin on July 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Well said, well said.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
You LIVED in Texas, you’re not FROM Texas….we don’t use words like ’street cred’…so, no, you can’t mess with Texas.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
word
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
I believe the phrase goes, I wasn’t born in TX but I got there as soon as I could…. right
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
You are a liar or you think we are to stupid to know better.
thmcbb on July 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
she’s speaka jiva talka
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
and I think she threw a gang symbol when she said “word”
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
DarkCurrent on July 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
What? :)
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
I told my 25 year old (uninsured) son about this, especially the attack on the oldsters. It was comforting that he seemed offended.
Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Outta here.
Ted? Sedate.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Not quite, buttercup.
And quit using bumper sticker sayings, not helping.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Ol’ Michael J’s got some leftover propofol— I heard it worked good for him….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
lighten up Francis….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Ol’ Michael J’s got some leftover propofol— I heard it worked good for him….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Can you say RANDOM? One has to be schizo to keep up. :)
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM
That’s a good sign. When he becomes angry, then shocked … the full realization will have set in.
darwin on July 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM
you just type wayyy toooo Sloowww.
please don’t mistake that for “messing”…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM
It’s like Mork from Ork without any humor.
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM
I think somebody didn’t have the four dollars this month to buy his meds…
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Totally lost here???
txmomof6 on July 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Back to the original subject.
Socialization of health care= bad idea?
anyone disagree
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Liberals call everyone a liar so when a real liar like Obama spews this garbage people don’t know what to think.
scotash on July 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Those congressmen had better learn to stand for themselves and their constituencies or their going to get crushed. Once they get voted out of office, it ain’t going to be Obama coming to visit them in the Little Home for Former Congressmen
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Hugo Mugabe Huessein Obama needs to go soon. Impeach!
elduende on July 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Nah, I think that pretty much nails it.
When I wrote my Congressman about this communist health bill I wrote:
600 billion in new taxes. Do I need to say anymore?
I never get a reply from that weasel anyway.
darwin on July 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
“the Stimilus was not designed to Stimulate”
Can’t trust anything POTUS says.
I need a flow-chart to keep up with Obama’s flipflops in the past 5 months.
TN Mom on July 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I called my senator, Bingaman, yes the idiot that wanted to bring back the fairness doctrine and told them that this was a sure fire way to destroy this country….I asked how he would vote, knowing the answer. If it is something liberal and stupid, I know, redundant, Bingaman is all in favor..
The senator is fully behind this debacle. You just can’t fix stupid.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Here’s a f***ing simple solution to that. Don’t create a government program to run health care you d***a***.
PackerBronco on July 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Because we own property in both Florida and Virginia I like to annoy all four senators. I have not had a reply from Sen. Webb yet, but Senators Martinez and Warner do not believe that the federal government should get involved but that rules should be changed to promote competition in the private sector. Whatever that means. Sen. Nelson buys the Obama plan hook, line and sinker. Don’t get me wrong I don’t even believe the two that say they are against it but it’s a start.
Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM
The article about the elderly I referred to earlier at 4:26 PM was “O’s Broken Promises” by Betsy McCaughey, July 17, New York Post. It said that a lot of the money saved on the elderly would be used for “migrant workers” among others. Oh, joy, we know that means all the illegals. Now that’s just sad, isn’t it? Cut out care for the elderly to cover the illegals! I also think Congress should have to abide by the same laws they make for the rest of us.
I’m sorry that I don’t know how to link to the article – I’m technologically ignorant. I spent all this time trying to figure how to put part of my previous comment in this one and gave up.
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Hey Silverana Hot air posted that story this morning and it already in the achives.
If you want to link and article.
-Go to the top of the page in the address bar
-right click your mouse
-go to “copy” and left click
-go to page you want to put it on and right click
-go to “paste” and left click
it will unload the info you just copied onto the page.
katy on July 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM
katy, thanks for the info. I will play around with it. I seem to be having some trouble, and the spouse is not at home to help me. Appreciate your help!
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Exactly! And those ILLEGALS will be covered at the expense of America’s elderly.
Have you seen this article? I thought my Senator (Benedict Arlen) was a piece of crap…Robert Menendez takes the cake.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/06/red-alert-la-raza-if-american-people.html
Paul the American on July 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM
WOW!!!!!!! Just WOW! This makes my blood BOOOOIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Robert Menendez takes the cake
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Sorry, didn’t mean to do that. This makes my blood boil, also. This information doesn’t get out to the general public. I wonder if even the Republicans know about this!
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Ohmygosh: more from the above link.
…Yes [they said they would get free health care for illegal aliens], these are my notes, Mark. They actually got up and said “Latino children need health care more than whites”. And then they would say things like “you must go out into your communities, use words like ’streamline’, use phrases like ‘all workers’ and ‘all families’,” because they said — and I quote — “If the American people find out that this bill is about giving health care to non-citizens, they will rise up against it.”
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM
I just sent this link to Beck.
katy on July 18, 2009 at 7:05 PM
The ‘elderly’ are not unaware that they are going to become scapegoats. More and more of them can be heard complaining about Obama, even many of those who were originally Obots. Whether this growing dis-satisfaction will be reflected in 2010 is too early to forecast, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Medical care is crucial to this age group, a number one or two issue. Add to this the large numbers of older boomers gradually cycling into Medicare and it is a very large voting segment. Not sure if O and henchmen realize this but am betting that Reps and Sens do.
jeanie on July 18, 2009 at 7:08 PM
AP, link the directorblue post in headlines if you could … thank you.
darwin on July 18, 2009 at 7:08 PM
OMG, would someone please make this a separate topic???
Knucklehead on July 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM
“Obama promises: I won’t sign any health-care bill that adds to the deficit”
And I won’t sign any Bill with earmarks…
and, unemployment won’t go beyond 8% if we pass the Porkulus Bill…
and, I won’t allow any lobbyists on my staff…
and, we don’t want to run car companies and banks…
The man is certifiably insane!
orlandocajun on July 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM
You didn’t really believe that obama and company would forget the illegal aliens, at the expense of *$#&ING THE AMERICAN CITIZEN?????
Payback is coming and it is going to be UGLY!
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Thanks for the link. Might I suggest we send it to Allah and Ed tips@hotair.com
This needs wide attention. Don’t forget to call these treasonous legislators and tell them we will not tolerate much more of this. The Obama regime’s paid leftist thugs are agitiating from their side so we need to counter them with our numbers. Tell everyone you know.
elduende on July 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM
I did . And Michelle, and Beck and Drudge
katy on July 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Yak, yak, yak. Yakkidy yak. Yakko. Yak-yak.
That is what we do. We yak the problem away. Loud yakking, soft yakking. Straight yakking, long yakking, repeated yakking. Yakkidy-yak.
Then something else happens and everyone switches to yakking about, well, something else.
When do we quit all this yakking and start demanding?
Limerick on July 18, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Ha! Tell us another fairy tale… how many times have you lied to us?
CynicalOptimist on July 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM
SO, bankruptcy + statist health control = loss of dem congress 2010
OR
no health control + solvent USA = dems retain in 2010, two more years of obamagenda
what to do what to do?
battleoflepanto1571 on July 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM
So Obama will not run our health care–Acorn will.
PattyJ on July 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Is it possible to get this on Drudge? I’m going to send this to Numbers USA and everyone else I can think of, and AARP. Also, Hannity and O’Reilly. If we can get this out to the general public, the folks will be livid and this will get everyone fired up and will kill the bill quicker than anything I know.
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Thanks for the information Senator Menendez from the La Raza meeting, we’ll be sure to pass this on.
yoda on July 18, 2009 at 7:57 PM
My senators are Feinstein and Boxer…..need I say more?
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I got an email from Newsmax this morning referring me to ACORNcracked.com, a website to expose Acorn and all that they are involved in. Seems Acorn is involved in the healthcare bill scam, among other shady things. Might want to check it out.
silvernana on July 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Thanks for the link!
INC on July 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM
You win.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM
silverana, I got that too.
http://www.acorncracked.com/
katy on July 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM
“at least we know now what his next bald-faced revisionist lie about his record will be”
his next bald-face revisionist lie will be the next sound that comes out of his mouth.
notagool on July 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM
It would be, if the freaking press would actually ask him any questions… I’m sure it’ll be like all of the rest of them: “What do you find most enchanting about the Socialist takeover of America’s private industries?”
jana on July 18, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Hornetsting: Tell him what he wins Johny
Johny: Well Hornet, FonCon here has won himself a choice for a payed(by taxpayers) vacation to either Palau or the Bermudas!!!! Also comes with the package is a FREE CAR!!!
Johny: This GM made model is sure to please anybody looking to here the roar of this 36 horse power engine! The top speed at a respectable 70mph will leave everyone jaw dropped.
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM
This obvious Obama lie will go unchallanged or will we make sure the liar keeps his word?
BottomLine5 on July 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Obama is the face of evil in our times. We must defeat evil and Obama at all costs.
BottomLine5 on July 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
The President is trying to make sure he has enough “Obamabots” before the next election.
yoda on July 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Don’t forget, free healthcare, paid by the schmuck tax payer, and if you are here illegally, free food stamps and subsidized housing for you and your fourteen kids, courtesy of the American Taxpayer! Congratulations!
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Boy,does Obama look tired,or tuned,or both!ahem.
canopfor on July 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Don’t forget, free healthcare, paid by the schmuck tax payer, and if you are here illegally, free food stamps and subsidized housing for you and your fourteen kids, courtesy of the American Taxpayer! Congratulations!
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
This is the President’s mantra….he’s the schmuck! (:
yoda on July 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Hell Yeah!!!
Boy our country is down the tubes ain’t it?
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 8:46 PM
We’re gonna have a lot of work to do, guys.
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Well, here I go thinking evil thoughts again,,, but since the publishing of polls may be having an effect on his support in congress,,, at what point will the thuggery be directed at Gallop, Rasmussen and others. Books can be cooked, the press can be turned into a mouthpiece, why cannot polls be completely manipulated or made completely fraudulent?
JellyToast on July 18, 2009 at 8:53 PM
From the Dick Morris blog.
URGENT ACTION NEEDED ON HEALTH CARE
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/07/17/urgent-action-needed-on-health-care/#more-611
elduende on July 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Proof that the filthy liar’s credibility is wearing thin, IMO, is the fact that we all know the usual riffs of his lies.
“But let me be clear.”
“There are those that would disagree.”
“Make no mistake.”
The rat bastard traitor is running out of new material.
highhopes on July 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM
And we thought Billy had lying down to a fine art. Billy’s a chump compared to The One.
GarandFan on July 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM
I got my shovel ready*
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM
HopenChange(C) can only blind people for so long. I hope they wake up in time to see the mess The Won has caused.
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 8:53 PM
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I think I have a few shovels in the garage too….
yoda on July 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM
I have only popped into this thread from time to time today but are there any advocates of this plan or supporters of the president commenting? And AnninCa doesn’t count.
Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I think I’m starting to get this.
“I don’t know where people get the idea that I like government running things.” “The stimulus bill will help us recover immediately.” “most transparent administration evah”
I think I see a trend. Everything he says, he means the opposite.
OneGyT on July 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Tsk tsk. That’s not the highhopes I though I knew.
OneGyT on July 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Perhaps when AP has had his fill of stupid fluff pieces like eating robots and worst person in the world he can get some SERIOUS POSTS GOING AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!!!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Good, then we can be a part of of those shovel ready jobs Obama promised.
/sarc
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM
The IRONY is that Obama, who lies and obfuscates more than any President in history, constantly uses the phrase, “Let me be clear.” Barry, the jig is up, my nizzle. You’re becoming a joke.
marklmail on July 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM
*crickets*
Nope, looks like Ann is the only one.
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Any statement that follows the words “Obama promises” has meaning only to the extent that one can infer the truth as the opposite of what he says.
jazz_piano on July 18, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I saw that post last night at Dick Morris. I will say that on Keith Hennessey’s blog he has mentioned this option before and discounted it. According to him, the type bill they could get through via reconciliation would be very watered down and incomplete.
I think Morris believes that Obama will be so panicked if this isn’t done by August he will push it through knowing he won’t get it done after the break. Maybe, but I do believe it would be a weak ineffectual change and a sign Obama is totally on the ropes.
msmveritas on July 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM
By the way people, When do they start voting for this in the senate?
FontanaConservative on July 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM
It gets easier and easier to ignore them, they are such light weights.
Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Morris is pretty astute. I’m reading Catastrophe right now and he has some pretty incredible insight into political behavior.
Clinton was remarkable about regaining his footing once he got hit in the jaw with something. He always remained maneuverable and could land on his feet. Like a cat, he had 9 lives.
Obama, however, is acting like each piece of legislation is his last. What happens when he is dealt a stunning loss?
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 9:23 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25112.html
Hello all, looking forward to meeting some of you at Red State in Atlanta.
No doubt about it. ANY new expenditure from this Admin needs to be looked at very carefully.
I want my 5 days to review the final bill, as promised.
seesalrun on July 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM
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