Obama promises: I won’t sign any health-care bill that adds to the deficit
posted at 12:55 pm on July 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
That’s how the Times is spinning it, but read the fine print. What he actually says is he won’t sign any bill that adds to our deficits over the next decade. The One knows this is a sinkhole in the long run even if it isn’t in the short run — which, per the CBO, it almost certainly is. No worries, though: “I don’t believe that government can or should run health care,” he assures us, ignoring the fact that he once famously said he doesn’t want to run the auto companies … a month after he forced the chairman of GM into early retirement. No wonder some prominent Democrats now want to, um, run the auto companies.
Oh, and he’s still lying about letting you keep your current insurance if you like it, oblivious to the reality of what’ll happen to private insurers forced to compete with a program backed by the Treasury Department’s printing presses. But then, as he candidly says here, “I … don’t think insurance companies should have free reign to do as they please.” That’s Obamanomics in a nutshell. Make sure to read Betsy McCaughey’s rejoinder in today’s New York Post about the difference between your current health plan, the “qualified plan” you’ll be forced to choose under ObamaCare, and the penalties you’ll pay if you prefer not to “qualify.” Should be a fun presser on Wednesday night.
Update: Looking on the bright side, at least we know now what his next bald-faced revisionist lie about his record will be. How many months or years before he treats us to this: “But let me be clear. We have never denied that health-care reform might temporarily add to our deficits.”
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BPD on July 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Read the Bill here.
Page 16, line 10 “Limitation of New Enrollment.”
In ten years there will be NO PRIVATE PLANS LEFT since there will be no new enrollments subsequent to the signing of the Bill. How is this not a bold faced lie!!!!!
davo on July 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM
It’s not OUR care that needs reforming, unless it’s actual TORT reform and rules against baseless price gouging. The reform most wanted was to end waste, to stop the ceaseless parade of illegals from obtaining free care on the public dole, and getting the fraud out of social security/medicaid/medicare. PERIOD.
Mommypundit on July 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM
AnninCA has some deep-seated psychological issues with doctors. She’s feeling punitive, and thinks that that’s a proper aim of public policy.
Combine that with a density approaching white-dwarf levels, a lack of any real health policy knowledge beyond extrapolation from her own limited experience, a tendency to completely make stuff up, and a scorching case of argumentative ADD, and she’s not worth troubling yourself over.
DrSteve on July 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM
If Obama truly believes what he is saying then his problems are much worse than I had initially expected. He must be convinced that the masses are mindless, blithering idiots.
rplat on July 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM
By the way, Obama is a very ugly man.
Mommypundit on July 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
But will he sign a bill that raises our taxes?
File this question in the “stupid questions” pile.
rockhead on July 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
That ad that Ed posted about yesterday, showing Obama in his own words lying and then lying again was really good.
We need more of them. People need to see him saying the lies.
myrenovations on July 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
since congess doesn’t read the bill, he doesn’t expect anyone to.
Tazz 55 on July 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
ok btt.
The easiest way to lower the COST of health care is to stop paying doctors and hospitals. When private insurance companies do this, you can sue and change companies.
When the government health insurance plan does this, the hospitals will close.
Insurance companies pay TRILLIONS of dollars in claims every year. This is the revenue that keeps hospitals open. If the government takes it over. . . expect an additional trillion dollars in payments from the government every year.
When the government doesn’t have the money, they’ll stop paying claims and hospitals will close.
ThackerAgency on July 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Sorry, you’re wrong. The economy was the “number one issue” in the election, and the public by more than 60% believes Obama’s phony stimulus/payola to political friends package is a big fat loser. The GOP is now trusted more than the dems on the economy AND on heath care. Another massive expenditure that the public is opposed to should be easy for the GOP to oppose. You’re engaging in wishful thinking here. The vast majority of voters are quite happy with their health care. You know it. Obama knows it. The Blue Dogs know it. And the media knows it. That’s why we’re getting all these LIES.
Rational Thought on July 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Quote Of The Day, Mommy.
Patrick S on July 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Beyond the obvious, there are issues lirking beneath the surface.
Mandatory excersize.
All kinds of unimaginable food controls.
Mandatory vaccinations.
Government run quarantines.
If it sounds draconian. It will eventually be implimented! Count on it. If the gov. is paying, we’re slaves of the state!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I still say we go Honduras on his butt. Drop him off in North Korea where he’ll feel perfectly at home.
Daggett on July 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM
New headline on HuffPo minutes old: “The gloves are off – Obama to target Blue Dog House Democrats opposing his bill”.
Marcus on July 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM
How?
Their voters hate this bill and they’re finally getting the message. His sinking poll numbers are beginning to panic the Dims.
TexasJew on July 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM
“Hotel California”
On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway;
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself,
‘This could be Heaven or this could be Hell’
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say…
Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here
Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
So I called up the Captain,
‘Please bring me my wine’
He said, ‘We haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine’
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say…
Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They livin’ it up at the Hotel California
What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise)
Bring your alibis
Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said ‘We are all just prisoners here, of our own device’And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
‘Relax,’ said the night man,
‘We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!’
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Two things that are in short supply in our government. They also are at risk of losing their phoney baloney jobs.
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Words, just words. Words with expiration dates
AZfederalist on July 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
I’m convinced that 52% of them are.
AZCoyote on July 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
‘This could be Heaven or this could be Hell’
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say…
Welcome to the Hotel California
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Ann,
If you’re referring to the “general welfare” clause, I would argue that “general welfare” means that something must benefit all Americans equally.
Taking from one group to give to another (also known as redistribution of wealth) does NOT benefit all Americans equally, and therefore is NOT in the interest of our general welfare.
UltimateBob on July 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
It’s amazing every day how the president tells bold face lies (I mean it is quite clear that he’s lying, theres no sublte differences in explination but bold face lies) and the press doesn’t say a word.
WOW.
Dritanian on July 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM
‘Relax,’ said the night man,
‘We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!’
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Liar
eaglesdontflock on July 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM
This guy is the king of all liars! I think we know who else holds that title.
JAM on July 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM
This was probably said, but if Obama isn’t going to sign a bill that adds to the deficit, I guess we’re not getting health care reform from democrats?
Cheesecakecrush on July 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Obama is trying to get us to check into the Hotel California…
He’s holding the shimmering light…
He’s counting our heads growing heavy and our eyes growing dim…
As we drive through the night…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM
At Obama’s Hotel California, we can check out anytime we like—-but we can never leave….
prisoners–chains we need ?
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM
True_King on July 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Oh, don’t count on the “blue dogs”. They’re nothing but typical lefty Dems in closely-divided districts. At the end of the day, Pelosi will buy them off our batter them around and they will revert to type.
Plus, they know one thing with certainty: the people who elected them are as dumb as bricks and can be easily fooled again.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Not only that, he throws like a sissy. And wears mommy jeans.
But if you listen to the press, this guy is the coolest, slickest, hippest, most Adonis-like and athletic person to ever walk the earth.
UltimateBob on July 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM
You can’t hide your lyin’ eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you’d realize
There ain’t no way to hide you lyin’ eyes
Knucklehead on July 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM
He campaigned on ‘Rope and Chains’ didn’t he? Didn’t he?
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM
I consider that to be criminal negligence, and those who force it and pressure for it to be guilty of far, far worse. All involved in this, in Washington, should be in jail. If they were running private companies with these same sorts of actions they would definitely be criminally liable. That they are doing it in government is one of the boldest crimes ever perpetrated on this nation.
progressoverpeace on July 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM
He is surrounded by evil advisors. Obama cannot have a deep understanding of all the subjects at hand, he leaves much to his support team, which is inherently evil.
True_King on July 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM
The Statist liberal promises much, but never delivers….
Utopia is just over the horizon… we are nearly there… just be patient.
I have a feevah… and the answer is more songs—
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM
ted…
…need… more….
…need …. more …. song…references.. to hotel…california..
not…getting it…….yet…..
katy on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
YAY. Thanks to everyone that made sense and chased anninca away. She makes me sick.
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM
the chains of economic slavery are being forged as we wait… Line it on up, nut to butt– hold those wrists out there… let’s slap ‘em on tight…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
He won’t increase the deficit because he will increase taxes.
The media will spin this as ‘fiscally responsible’ as Omama and Congress produce a program that will break this country.
cntrlfrk on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
was it the Hotel California….*righteous guitar riff*…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
I am so over this Communist liar. Take your BS somewhere else Barry. Even the dems don`t believe you anymore. Cut your losses and move to the center stupid because baby you bees toast! Otherwise,pack your bags. Can we make you? You betcha! There`s no kings here Barry. Maybe you should relocate back to Jakarta. I think they have plenty for you to do there.
Jayrae on July 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Does anyone have any bets about the expiration date of this new promise?
Mutnodjmet on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
OT: Not to re-open any wounds or hijack the thread, but I read your comments last night on the Cronkite thread. I can’t imagine what you must have gone through, but I share your outrage over Cronkite being hailed as some sort of hero when he betrayed our country, as well as our cause (which was freedom for the people of Viet Nam). Bless you, and keep toting that gun. :-)
UltimateBob on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
katy on July 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM
katy girl–
The Hotel represents the statist liberal utopia
The night represents the dark times we live in
The head growing heavy represents your fatigue and concern with trying to navigate through the night…
Obama represents the innkeeper..holding the shimmering light
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
I wonder if Joe Biden has turned birther?
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
You had better avoid her in the future if Obie-Care passes.
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM
These idiots have no freaking clue about costs and unintended consequences–or if they do, they are worse than Marxists.
Just yesterday I was reminded that the condescending corpulent windbag Larry Summers predicted last year that 1,500 banks would fail this year. At least Harvard did one good thing by unceremoniously firing his fat a– –.
horatio on July 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM
You’re wrong. They are changing the regulation rules of health insurance and the limitation on new enrollment is for plans with the existing rules. They get grandfathered in so you can keep the plan, but new policies will have to abide by the new rules. There will be plenty of private plans under the new rules and will be sold on a new insurance exchange. The new rules start on page 19, which if you made it to page 16 I’m sure you made it to 19.
jonknee on July 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM
The words “obama promises” have no content. I don’t even think twice about them meaning anything anymore. That’s encouraging. Others must also now be starting to intuitively understand that the man is a liar. I don’t know how much damage he’ll be able to do before he fails, but fail he will.
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
…ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
katy on July 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
The “welfare clause” is part of the preamble, the wording is “promote the general welfare”. The operative word is promote,not “provide”. Further more the preamble is NOT law. As much as AnalinCA and liberals would like it to be, it ain’t!
oldernwiser on July 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
the hotel is a hospital…. the innkeeper promises everything
health care coverage is the pink champagne on ice…
walking you down to your corridor represents you accepting the invitation to Obamacare
You can check out any time you like represents Obama’s promise of being able to keep whatever coverage you already have…..
But you can never leave represents the fact that your insurance coverage will go away and you’ll need public health anyway and also represents the prison that you’ll be in once it’s all said and done….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM
It’s not reform if it doesn’t improve anything. Please play a round of Taps because Obama and Pelosi are fiddling while Rome burns.
BuckeyeSam on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Besides, it say, “PROMOTE the general welfare” not “PROVIDE.” The government is way overreaching its Constitutional authority here. Obama hasn’t lied about one thing: He said he wanted to “remake America” and he’s trying his hardest to accomplish it.
Beaglemom on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Nice. So much for states-rights and the constitution.
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tx2654 on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Well, since Glenn Frey and Don Henley are both major Democratic and Barry Obama donors and contributors, Hotel California did go a long way in getting Barry elected than you know.
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Don_Henley.php
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Glenn_Frey.php
ChrisB on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
///sarc sarc/// double dog sarc you!
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Thanks, Bob. You had to have been there to understand. We literally still had bulldozers pushing piles of VC corpses around and were seeing our buddies off in coffins when that POS intoned that we had lost Tet. Literally millions of people died because of his malign influence.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Make that “says.”
Beaglemom on July 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Obiwon is going to strong arm the blue dogs..
We have to get to them. The obamtrons are going to flood the blue dog phone lines.
This battle is epic!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Thanks for the correction. You are absolutely right.
UltimateBob on July 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM
ChrisB on July 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM
birds of a feather….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I … don’t think insurance companies should have free reign to do as they please.” That’s Obamanomics in a nutshell
I don’t think taxi cab companies should do as they please.
I don’t think restaurants should do as they please.
I don’t think private and parochial schools should do as they please.
I don’t think department stores, delis, jewelers,… should do as they please.
I don’t think subj..ehh citizens should be able to do as they please.
They must do what pleases MOI, L’Etat!
xkaydet65 on July 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Unfortunately, Congress long ago learned how to drive every socialist nightmare straight through the Commerce Clause.
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM
If the Eagles helped him get elected then I guess “Hotel California” makes them prophets and the passage of this bill was predicted many years ago and this has now been brought to full fruition in the first year of Obama.
kneel before Zod.
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM
When you watch Obama, make sure you understand that you are looking at a man that was raised hating the United States of America…………
……… he will say and do anything to maintain power, and “right the wrongs” of the past as “he” believes them.
I still think he believes he is above wiping his own as%…….
…….. and there is no shortage of “believers” that are lined up to do it for him.
Seven Percent Solution on July 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM
I smell a states rights movement…
If this piece of crap passes things are going to boil over. anybody here have ideas on how states can fight this?
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I see a commercial in this Hotel California thing…
if only we had some smart resourceful and funny people up at RNC or somewhere else….
like me!
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
guntotinglibertarian on July 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Beauty & the Beast
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I smell a states rights movement…
If this piece of crap passes things are going to boil over. anybody here have ideas on how states can fight this?
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
For the first time in my adult life, I am proud to live in Texas.
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Madison understood how the “general welfare” clause was going to be abused. He said:
Furthermore, the criminal left have even moved beyond trying to defend their insane, collectivist, un-Consitutional programs by claiming “general welfare” and have now wedded themselves to the notion that it is the federal government’s job to open a company in order to “provide competition” for the private sector, whenever the feds think it appropriate – which would give the federal government totally unlimited power. This is so blatantly un-Constitutional that it makes my head spin. The fact that the idiot left are using this as the main justification for their national health care plan is just insane.
Criminal negligence by enemies of the Constitution. That’s the Washington junta, in a nutshell, and they need to be tried for their crimes.
progressoverpeace on July 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
the rest of us are just trying to get there. good thing there’s plenty of drop zone in TX. *packing parachute now…*
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
anyone else feel like this too?
“I Wanna Be Sedated”
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated
Nothin’ to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can’t control my fingers I can’t control my brain
Oh no no no no no
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go….
Just put me in a wheelchair, get me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can’t control my fingers I can’t control my brain
Oh no no no no no
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated
Nothin’ to do and no where to go-o-o I wanna be sedated
Just put me in a wheelchair get me to the show
Hurry hurry hurry before I go loco
I can’t control my fingers I can’t control my toes
Oh no no no no no
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go…
Just put me in a wheelchair…
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:08 PM
No Bambi… but YOU should… is that how it goes?
“I”… Since when is a republic run by one man who thinks his personal ideas should undo the rule of law?
Arrogant SOB!!!!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
the rest of us are just trying to get there. good thing there’s plenty of drop zone in TX. *packing parachute now…*
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Just don’t land in Austin.
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Good luck trying to get the Eagles to let any conservative groups use their music in a political ad. Aren’t they bush-hating leftists?
UltimateBob on July 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Oh yes,the commerce clause. Now there is something that needs to be revisited by the courts. It has been abused for far to long,used to circumvent the checks and balances built into the constitution. Red meat for another thread.
oldernwiser on July 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Looks like some Dems are being targeted. Got an email from Democracy for America and these are the targets:
True_King on July 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
roger that, enemy territory.
Targets
DZ AustinDZ San Antonio–open
DZ Houston–open
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Here ya go, girlfriend.
State Lawmakers Considering Move to Opt Out of Federal Health Care
Congress has yet to come up with a clear prescription for the nation’s health care system. But some state legislators are already urging voters not to take the medicine.
Under Arizona’s Health Care Freedom Act, which was passed by the state legislature this week, a voting initiative will be placed on the 2010 ballot that, if passed, will allow the state to opt out of any federal health care plan. Five other states — Indiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota and Wyoming — are considering similar initiatives for their 2010 ballots.
Knucklehead on July 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
I’m only a 6 hour drive away. And I’m ready to roll when that day comes!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
thomasaur on July 18, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Knucklehead on July 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
and so it begins…
didn’t those states hear about Arizona and John Kyl?
chains… economic slavery. debtor slave to lender…
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Son of a Bit@h! This is great news!! Let the push back begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:13 PM
I vote Kerry, what with his terrific sense-of-humor and all.
ChrisB on July 18, 2009 at 2:13 PM
txag92 on July 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
roger that.
DZ Austin–hot
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
As I said in a post yesterday…I belive AnninCa is either Allah or some one working for Hot Air…
That much headlong stupidity has to be on purpose…
BigWyo on July 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I belive AnninCa is either Allah or some one working for Hot Air
just like mom always used to say… ignore it
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Well it does explain who’s in the WH.
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM
The Tenth Amendment ensures that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” It’s the same constitutional roadblock Franklin D. Roosevelt ran into during the Great Depression when he tried to ram through the first round of recovery programs under the New Deal. In a series of rulings, the U.S. Supreme Court found the National Recovery Act, the Agricultural Adjustment Act and several other recovery programs unconstitutional.
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Looks like FDR tried to open the Hotel California and had trouble on the highway as well….
ted c on July 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM
anninca, I still do not understand your reluctance to repeal McCarran Ferguson so we can buy health insurance across state lines
we all buy auto insurance and homowners insurance across state lines and nothing bad happens.
The reason ann that CA plans have to pay so much for administrative costs is that CA itself has half axxed state mandates forcing insurers to cover many of the ‘whacky’ things you laugh at like aromatherapy and accupuncture.
If I want to buy a no frills plan that operates out of another state I should be able to do it. THAT will bring costs down….
ginaswo on July 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Obviously you only listen to MSM that has not criticized Obama for his consideration of McCain’s proposal of taxing the insurance benefits for those who are insured by their employer. That was one of the principles in McCain’s reform of health care during the campaign. The GOP did not block health care reform, they have a different approach which is based on free market principles, TORT reform and increased availability of non-emergency care.
You don’t get it because you choose not to listen to alternatives.
As to Obama’s proposal, much attention is being paid to the cost to the taxpaying American who will be subsidizing those who don’t pay tax into the money pit but I think there is one missing little piece of information that is not making it through to those who expect to be on the receiving end of this new entitlement program. It is my understanding that everybody is going to be required to have health insurance under this bill. Those who opt for the public option are going to be forced to pay some part of it where they now choose to pay none. The subsidy is based on household income and that limit is in par with the income base for paying taxes. They are not going to get this entirely free, they are going to be force to sign up and the IRS is going to know whether they did or not.
I’d like to hear more about this part of the plan if anyone has the details.
Texas Gal on July 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Pfffft. He’s a lefty — breaking promises is in his DNA.
infidel4life on July 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Yep. That, and the unbelievable abuse of “Equal Protection” (incorrectly and disingenuously applied to collectives whenever it suited the liberal purpose) have pushed this nation to ruin.
progressoverpeace on July 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
I HATE THIS WASTE OF SKIN! LYING SACK OF DOG SH*T!
HornetSting on July 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Kerry the buffoon told us on Snuggleupagus during the Dem primaries that health care is dead in the Senate
Kerry is an idiot, and I apologise to everyone for being a silly DEM and sending the DNC money when he ran
I do NOT apologize for helping Hill, I only wish I had been able to help more maybe we wouldnt be here now :0(
ginaswo on July 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM
You quote the Constitution, as if Obama and Co. believe it’s relevant to the governance of the U.S.
jazz_piano on July 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Speaking of guns…
You have to watch this. A car dealer in Missouri is giving away AK 47′s with truck purchase. He takes on the host of CNN and demolishes her! Watch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUPJXHqrut8
katy on July 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM
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