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		<title>By: justincase</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/18/gates-never-mind-that-wtf-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2448054</link>
		<dc:creator>justincase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gates is a bureaucrat who does what his boss tells him to do, and make it seem like it is his idea. The sign of a good leader. But he also has to put on the brakes when his boss is wrong and insist the minimum standards be achieved. And that, he hasn’t done….

Subsunk

Subsunk on July 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

I thought it was insurrection to stand against your leader in favor of standards. That&#039;s what everybody was telling me last week when Major Stefan Cook was reamed for questioning Obama&#039;s eligibility to be at the top of the chain of command.

Somebody put it in simple terms for me since I&#039;m obviously too stupid to get it otherwise: When is insisting on standards insurrection, and when it is it duty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gates is a bureaucrat who does what his boss tells him to do, and make it seem like it is his idea. The sign of a good leader. But he also has to put on the brakes when his boss is wrong and insist the minimum standards be achieved. And that, he hasn’t done….</p>
<p>Subsunk</p>
<p>Subsunk on July 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I thought it was insurrection to stand against your leader in favor of standards. That&#8217;s what everybody was telling me last week when Major Stefan Cook was reamed for questioning Obama&#8217;s eligibility to be at the top of the chain of command.</p>
<p>Somebody put it in simple terms for me since I&#8217;m obviously too stupid to get it otherwise: When is insisting on standards insurrection, and when it is it duty?</p>
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		<title>By: freeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>freeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW I just sent to Hotair the news that Homeland security is putting radiation detectors in Pakistani ports. While I thought it was stupid to announce that it also just occured to me that US intelligence IS worried about Pakistani nukes getting out. That is a really scary thought.

William Amos on July 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

+1,000

There was a blurb about a week ago saying the Taliban had not given up trying to make its way to a location near where some of the nukes are located. And when I say blurb, I mean blurb. It was mentioned only once, and the hairs on my neck stood up. While our intelligence is not totally decimated, it is severely weakened, and this move signals they do not believe they could stop the Taliban from managing to get their hands on the nukes. Scary indeed!

And dittos to al-Qaeda moving to Somalia, and Indonesia in greater numbers. As if Somalia is not already filled to the brim with them already! Obama&#039;s ties to both countries are rather striking as well, and most people seem to be ignoring this altogether. Al-Shabaab only appears to be growing in power. Based on his recent announcement he plans on trying two French military trainers under sharia law, and then of course beheading them, he seems to feel comfortable with his increased radical actions, and since no one is challenging him, he is sure to continue terrorizing anything and anyone.  We all know what that leads to!

We also need to keep our eyes on Kenya. Raila Odinga has long since desired sole control of Kenya. To date he has not been able to do this. His desires have left scores of dead bodies in Kenya, and in particular Christian Kikuyus. There is a score to settle in Kenya, and we all have recognized the President has a slew of axes he likes to grind. Placing Odinga in total control of Kenya would be a score settled for Obama, and in the name of his dead father. 

http://worldanalysis.net/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=55&amp;forum=3&amp;post_id=236

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/06/somalia-alshabaab-calls-for-invasion-of-christian-ethiopia.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW I just sent to Hotair the news that Homeland security is putting radiation detectors in Pakistani ports. While I thought it was stupid to announce that it also just occured to me that US intelligence IS worried about Pakistani nukes getting out. That is a really scary thought.</p>
<p>William Amos on July 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>+1,000</p>
<p>There was a blurb about a week ago saying the Taliban had not given up trying to make its way to a location near where some of the nukes are located. And when I say blurb, I mean blurb. It was mentioned only once, and the hairs on my neck stood up. While our intelligence is not totally decimated, it is severely weakened, and this move signals they do not believe they could stop the Taliban from managing to get their hands on the nukes. Scary indeed!</p>
<p>And dittos to al-Qaeda moving to Somalia, and Indonesia in greater numbers. As if Somalia is not already filled to the brim with them already! Obama&#8217;s ties to both countries are rather striking as well, and most people seem to be ignoring this altogether. Al-Shabaab only appears to be growing in power. Based on his recent announcement he plans on trying two French military trainers under sharia law, and then of course beheading them, he seems to feel comfortable with his increased radical actions, and since no one is challenging him, he is sure to continue terrorizing anything and anyone.  We all know what that leads to!</p>
<p>We also need to keep our eyes on Kenya. Raila Odinga has long since desired sole control of Kenya. To date he has not been able to do this. His desires have left scores of dead bodies in Kenya, and in particular Christian Kikuyus. There is a score to settle in Kenya, and we all have recognized the President has a slew of axes he likes to grind. Placing Odinga in total control of Kenya would be a score settled for Obama, and in the name of his dead father. </p>
<p><a href="http://worldanalysis.net/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=55&#038;forum=3&#038;post_id=236" rel="nofollow">http://worldanalysis.net/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=55&#038;forum=3&#038;post_id=236</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/06/somalia-alshabaab-calls-for-invasion-of-christian-ethiopia.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/06/somalia-alshabaab-calls-for-invasion-of-christian-ethiopia.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johan Klaus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/18/gates-never-mind-that-wtf-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2445579</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Solid plans for victory along with a clear exit strategy is tantamount for success abroad as well as on the home front for the American people. 

Americannodash on July 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 Complete victory should be the only exit strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Solid plans for victory along with a clear exit strategy is tantamount for success abroad as well as on the home front for the American people. </p>
<p>Americannodash on July 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM</p></blockquote>
<p> Complete victory should be the only exit strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Laskie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Laskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I thought the SecDef reported to the president, not to the national security advisor. And that commanders in the battlefield were answerable to the president through the SecDef, not the national security advisor.

ProfessorMiao on July 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt; Its time for a war czar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I thought the SecDef reported to the president, not to the national security advisor. And that commanders in the battlefield were answerable to the president through the SecDef, not the national security advisor.</p>
<p>ProfessorMiao on July 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM </p></blockquote>
<p> Its time for a war czar.</p>
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		<title>By: Virus-X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virus-X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless, Gates is no friend of the armed forces; he&#039;s nothing more than a liberal so-called Republican who seems to function best as one of Obama&#039;s appendages, after his lackluster to piss-poor performance under President Bush.  

&lt;strong&gt;I say bring back Rumsfeld&lt;/strong&gt;.

All Gates has been good for is rubber-stamping Obama&#039;s efforts to hamstring and shrink the armed forces, while he uses the money stolen from the armed services to pay for more of his social program bullcrap.  Any secretary of defense that works under a crack-addled marxist like Obama needs to be drummed out, and &lt;em&gt;quick&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless, Gates is no friend of the armed forces; he&#8217;s nothing more than a liberal so-called Republican who seems to function best as one of Obama&#8217;s appendages, after his lackluster to piss-poor performance under President Bush.  </p>
<p><strong>I say bring back Rumsfeld</strong>.</p>
<p>All Gates has been good for is rubber-stamping Obama&#8217;s efforts to hamstring and shrink the armed forces, while he uses the money stolen from the armed services to pay for more of his social program bullcrap.  Any secretary of defense that works under a crack-addled marxist like Obama needs to be drummed out, and <em>quick</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry will yet snap defeat from the jaws of victory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry will yet snap defeat from the jaws of victory!</p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one should be surprised,the Liberal Party,screws up
every military operation that they come across!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one should be surprised,the Liberal Party,screws up<br />
every military operation that they come across!</p>
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		<title>By: Col.John Wm. Reed</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/18/gates-never-mind-that-wtf-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2444390</link>
		<dc:creator>Col.John Wm. Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is this the Jones TEXAS was glad to Peter Principal to DC ( a foreign country)?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;
When do the Clinton retreads/plants go into action and start leaking all the slime in the admin,August recess?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is this the Jones TEXAS was glad to Peter Principal to DC ( a foreign country)?</strong><strong><br />
When do the Clinton retreads/plants go into action and start leaking all the slime in the admin,August recess?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gates to Jones: STFU,FU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gates to Jones: STFU,FU.</p>
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		<title>By: Partisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Partisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Funny that Obama hasn’t been labeled an imperialist occupier yet…

CP on July 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only Republicans can hold that title ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Funny that Obama hasn’t been labeled an imperialist occupier yet…</p>
<p>CP on July 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM
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<p>Only Republicans can hold that title &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that Obama hasn&#039;t been labeled an imperialist occupier yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that Obama hasn&#8217;t been labeled an imperialist occupier yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kralizec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kralizec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Separation of powers only works well when one side doesn’t have all the power.

Doug on July 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM
The American Founders must have been aware that somewhat likeminded men would often occupy the Presidency and both Houses of the Congress.  They nevertheless saw great advantage in separation of the executive and legislative powers and the checks and balances of the bicameral Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Separation of powers only works well when one side doesn’t have all the power.</p>
<p>Doug on July 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM<br />
The American Founders must have been aware that somewhat likeminded men would often occupy the Presidency and both Houses of the Congress.  They nevertheless saw great advantage in separation of the executive and legislative powers and the checks and balances of the bicameral Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought the SecDef reported to the president, not to the national security advisor. And that commanders in the battlefield were answerable to the president through the SecDef, not the national security advisor.

ProfessorMiao on July 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;



There is the Legal Chain of Command, where authority rests with responsibility.  That flows through the SecDef...

But just as with the Czars, Obama likes to have somone else, with no oversite from Congress, in the decision making positions... someone who does NOT have the responsibility that goes with those decisions.

If Afganistan blows up because of a lack of support for the troops... Gates gets thrown to the MSM wolves... NSA, who is making the real decision because he has Bambis ear? Will skate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought the SecDef reported to the president, not to the national security advisor. And that commanders in the battlefield were answerable to the president through the SecDef, not the national security advisor.</p>
<p>ProfessorMiao on July 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>There is the Legal Chain of Command, where authority rests with responsibility.  That flows through the SecDef&#8230;</p>
<p>But just as with the Czars, Obama likes to have somone else, with no oversite from Congress, in the decision making positions&#8230; someone who does NOT have the responsibility that goes with those decisions.</p>
<p>If Afganistan blows up because of a lack of support for the troops&#8230; Gates gets thrown to the MSM wolves&#8230; NSA, who is making the real decision because he has Bambis ear? Will skate.</p>
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		<title>By: BobMbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobMbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but it seems clear that Jones and Gates are not on the same page on the war.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I submit they are not reading the same book.

Gates:  &quot;101 Ways to Win a War&quot;

Jones:  &quot;How to Sound Important (when you aren&#039;t)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but it seems clear that Jones and Gates are not on the same page on the war.</p></blockquote>
<p>I submit they are not reading the same book.</p>
<p>Gates:  &#8220;101 Ways to Win a War&#8221;</p>
<p>Jones:  &#8220;How to Sound Important (when you aren&#8217;t)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lourdes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lourdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

 &lt;blockquote&gt;   Jones sent the message that the commanders should STFU&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Yea, that was shocking. I would expect something like that from a Democratic administration, just never expected someone like General Jones to say it.

Good on Gates. Morale is a factor that can’t be overlooked. Telling our boys that they are on their own is a morale killer.

Hog Wild on July 18, 2009 at 1:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gates, I have confidence in but I tend to nearly conclude by now that the Obama Administration is engaged in &quot;mind games&quot; where our troops are concerned.</description>
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<blockquote><p>   Jones sent the message that the commanders should STFU</p></blockquote>
<p>Yea, that was shocking. I would expect something like that from a Democratic administration, just never expected someone like General Jones to say it.</p>
<p>Good on Gates. Morale is a factor that can’t be overlooked. Telling our boys that they are on their own is a morale killer.</p>
<p>Hog Wild on July 18, 2009 at 1:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Gates, I have confidence in but I tend to nearly conclude by now that the Obama Administration is engaged in &#8220;mind games&#8221; where our troops are concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Lourdes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lourdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, everyone *I* know is being sent there.  So I haven&#039;t seen any reductions going to Afghanistan, from personal experience, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, everyone *I* know is being sent there.  So I haven&#8217;t seen any reductions going to Afghanistan, from personal experience, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Hog Wild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hog Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jones sent the message that the commanders should STFU &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yea, that was shocking.  I would expect something like that from a Democratic administration, just never expected someone like General Jones to say it.

Good on Gates.  Morale is a factor that can&#039;t be overlooked.  Telling our boys that they are on their own is a morale killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jones sent the message that the commanders should STFU </p></blockquote>
<p>Yea, that was shocking.  I would expect something like that from a Democratic administration, just never expected someone like General Jones to say it.</p>
<p>Good on Gates.  Morale is a factor that can&#8217;t be overlooked.  Telling our boys that they are on their own is a morale killer.</p>
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		<title>By: America’s Two Air Forces &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>America’s Two Air Forces &#171;</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: xler8bmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>xler8bmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has created his own personal meat grinder with our soldiers!  This is his strategy to get the public to cry out against the war as they did in Iraq when we were losing so many so he can pull out and leave Afghanistan stranded once again by the US!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has created his own personal meat grinder with our soldiers!  This is his strategy to get the public to cry out against the war as they did in Iraq when we were losing so many so he can pull out and leave Afghanistan stranded once again by the US!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Americannodash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Americannodash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many cooks are in the kitchen now?  What it appears on the menu today is a choice between a TV dinner, a home cooked meal or eating out at a restaurant.  Who really is in charge of this practice of preparing a cuisine for victory?  How it is being served up to the commanders in the Af-Pak theater?  Disarray and mixed messages from those in principled leadership positions is not a morale booster for the troops.  Solid plans for victory along with a clear exit strategy is tantamount for success abroad as well as on the home front for the American people.  The coordinated success of the surge in Iraq should have been used as guideline only with a tendancy to expand on those kind of efforts and building upon which of those measurable events succeeded in Iraq and apply them to the Af-Pak theater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many cooks are in the kitchen now?  What it appears on the menu today is a choice between a TV dinner, a home cooked meal or eating out at a restaurant.  Who really is in charge of this practice of preparing a cuisine for victory?  How it is being served up to the commanders in the Af-Pak theater?  Disarray and mixed messages from those in principled leadership positions is not a morale booster for the troops.  Solid plans for victory along with a clear exit strategy is tantamount for success abroad as well as on the home front for the American people.  The coordinated success of the surge in Iraq should have been used as guideline only with a tendancy to expand on those kind of efforts and building upon which of those measurable events succeeded in Iraq and apply them to the Af-Pak theater.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Munford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Munford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;infidel4life on July 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And we are the passengers on said train.  I don&#039;t know about you but I am not enjoying the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>infidel4life on July 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>And we are the passengers on said train.  I don&#8217;t know about you but I am not enjoying the ride.</p>
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		<title>By: infidel4life</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/18/gates-never-mind-that-wtf-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2443353</link>
		<dc:creator>infidel4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama must be the most gifted man in history at choosing the worst possible people for positions in his administration. Every one of them is an ongoing train wreck for America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama must be the most gifted man in history at choosing the worst possible people for positions in his administration. Every one of them is an ongoing train wreck for America.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Munford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Munford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;William Amos on July 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I barely have a working knowledge of these things but if Al Qaeda just moves to a different location it would appear to be dead in name only.  It is a lead pipe cinch that Mr. Obama is not going to increase the theater so won&#039;t the same old people rally the same old troops in a different location with the U.S. being the ultimate target?  Although I have to admit that driving them from Pakistan, where the possibility of them getting hold of some nukes, is somewhat comforting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>William Amos on July 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I barely have a working knowledge of these things but if Al Qaeda just moves to a different location it would appear to be dead in name only.  It is a lead pipe cinch that Mr. Obama is not going to increase the theater so won&#8217;t the same old people rally the same old troops in a different location with the U.S. being the ultimate target?  Although I have to admit that driving them from Pakistan, where the possibility of them getting hold of some nukes, is somewhat comforting.</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I just sent to Hotair the news that Homeland security is putting radiation detectors in Pakistani ports. While I thought it was stupid to announce that it also just occured to me that US intelligence IS worried about Pakistani nukes getting out. That is a really scary thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I just sent to Hotair the news that Homeland security is putting radiation detectors in Pakistani ports. While I thought it was stupid to announce that it also just occured to me that US intelligence IS worried about Pakistani nukes getting out. That is a really scary thought.</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Zawahiri himself was whining about how bad things are over there just a few days ago. I am getting the sense that Al Qaeda is dying but is also transmuting. Islamic terrorism wont be centered in Aghanistan or Pakistan as much now I think its leadership is passing to Indonesia and Somalia. That is the next critical areas of this battle I believe.

Osama&#039;s &quot;base&quot; is no longer the centerpiece of the Islamic movement. If other Islamic groups start having success look for them to hoist the green islamic terrorism banner and Al Qaeda will be truely dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cindy Munford on July 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Zawahiri himself was whining about how bad things are over there just a few days ago. I am getting the sense that Al Qaeda is dying but is also transmuting. Islamic terrorism wont be centered in Aghanistan or Pakistan as much now I think its leadership is passing to Indonesia and Somalia. That is the next critical areas of this battle I believe.</p>
<p>Osama&#8217;s &#8220;base&#8221; is no longer the centerpiece of the Islamic movement. If other Islamic groups start having success look for them to hoist the green islamic terrorism banner and Al Qaeda will be truely dead.</p>
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