Walter Cronkite dead at 92
posted at 8:29 pm on July 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I have no reaction aside from the basic human sympathy one would feel for anyone who’s died. But as I said after Jacko passed: If you’re in the habit of watching cable news, you’re in for a very rough, very hagiographic week. Good luck.
Update: He retired as anchor of the CBS Evening News in 1981 at the ripe young age of 64, leaving us with decades of Dan Rather coverage that might not have been. Terrific.
Update: WaPo was ready with its obit. His most controversial moment as a reporter:
Cronkite was often viewed as the personification of objectivity, but his reports on the Vietnam War increasingly came to criticize the American military role. “From 1964 to 1967, he never took anything other than a deferential approach to the White House on Vietnam,” Gitlin said, but added, “He’s remembered for the one moment when he stepped out of character and decided, to his great credit, to go see [Vietnam] for himself.”
In 1968, following the surprise Tet Offensive of the communist North Vietnamese, Cronkite went to Southeast Asia for a firsthand look at the war. His reports on the “Evening News” and in a half-hour special were instrumental in turning the tide of American public opinion against U.S. policy.
“To say that we are closer to victory today is to believe, in the face of evidence, the optimists who have been wrong in the past,” he said, casting doubt in the minds of millions of Americans on official versions of the war. Cronkite’s viewers were certain that he would never lie to them, and the White House and the Defense Department did not command that level of credibility.
President Lyndon B. Johnson was widely quoted as having told aides, “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America.”
Update (Ed): I don’t have much to add here either, except to send my condolences to the Cronkite family. I have felt for a long time that both his fans and his opponents made far too much out of Cronkite, who was a good news reader — and a better ambassador for CBS than his successors. Walter Cronkite did not lose us the Vietnam War; that was lost by Congress in 1974-5, after Richard Nixon had managed to put it back more or less to status quo ante years past Johnson’s quote.
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RIP WC… at least you had a long & successful life.
Ugly on July 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Sometimes I miss the “True” Dinosaur media…
nationspatriotcom on July 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM
I used to respect this man, but not so much lately.
cjs1943 on July 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM
My sympathy to his family but good grief, did FOX have a crew waiting for this to happen?
Les in NC on July 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
I asked in headlines…. why are people hostile to WC? I realize he was a flaming liberal but was there some contraversy?
txag92 on July 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Rest in Peace.
But I don’t want to experience the fawning and canonization that the media will engage in for the next two weeks. He was an unapologetic liberal, supporter of a global government, Bush-basher, HuffPo contributor, biased reporter, military defeatist, and Fox-basher.
He was part of the reason that the public turned against the Vietnam War. If he talked about how we were going to lose one more time, there would be a spike in televisions flying out the window.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
The dinosuar media was just as biased and leftist as the new media. We just didn’t know it.
I miss the days of the 60’s through the 80’s but most definately not the media.
katy on July 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM
My sympathy to his family but good grief, did FOX have a crew waiting for this to happen?
Les in NC on July 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
He was on his deathbed so I guarantee every network has their “specials” ready to go.
txag92 on July 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Read my above comment. He was a defeatist who contributed to the public losing its fortitude for the Vietnam War. He talked constantly about losing. He actively supported the establishment of a global, non-sovereign global government.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Several years ago, I was babysitting for my nephew and caught a couple of episodes of some cartoon series about the Revolutionary War, with Cronkite voicing Benjamin Franklin.
RIP Mr. Cronkite.
And that’s the way it is.
malclave on July 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Read my above comment. He was a defeatist who contributed to the public losing its fortitude for the Vietnam War. He talked constantly about losing. He actively supported the establishment of a global, non-sovereign global government.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Thanks.
txag92 on July 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Screwed us over reporting on the Tet Offensive.
RIP, may God have mercy on your soul.
Caper29 on July 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I liked W.C. growing up, resepected him quite a bit. Later, found out just how liberal he was and lost all respect for him.
WordsMatter on July 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I am with Allah on this. I have sympathy for his death and his family, yet I won’t forget reading and watching his activism for liberal causes and his incessant putting down of our military and our efforts during the Vietnam war, and his disdain for republicans like Nixon and Reagan.
jencab on July 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM
…and that’s the way it was.
(Hotair had this up faster than anyone else. I’m impressed!)
PoodleSkirt on July 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM
I used to respect Walter Cronkite but started wondering about him after his appearance on Larry King. In that appearance he accused Karl Rove of being behind Osama Bin Laden’s videotape endorsement of John Kerry.
Hera on July 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
You are probably right. I should use the time to write useless e-mails to my elected officals who will ignore them. I will write them anyway.
Les in NC on July 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Bush and most Bush supporters are also in favour of global government. How many Bush supporters call for the UN to be dissolved? Very few.
aengus on July 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
It has begun………….
……… It’s like the Pope died or something.
Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
That’s absurd. You DO have a reaction but you don’t care to express it. That’s the truth here and that is utterly appropriate. Cronkite was an icon but he was an icon whose stock was diminished by his own commentary after retirement. Like Michael Jackson, it doesn’t diminish the accomplishments to recognize (as the late Paul Harvey said) the rest of the story. You are a coward to suggest that you don’t have a reaction to this death because you really do.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I wouldn’t worry too much about the hagiography. It’s a Friday; like when Russert died, they may dedicate the normally boring weekend to him, but I think they’ll get it out of their systems by Monday. At least, until the funeral, that is.
Siobhan on July 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
I am sick of kissing the ass of people who screwed not only their country and their profession, but millions of innocents, because the media tells me I am supposed to.
Go. To. Hell. You. Lying. Bastard.
drunyan8315 on July 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
walter’s Liberal veiws
Some key points
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM
I think specifically he was the one shouting to the rooftops that American troops had been defeated in the Tet Offensive when, in reality, the U.S. won that engagement.
Kafir on July 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM
My father hated him. My husband hated him. I didn’t like him either. He was a typical condesending Liberal who tried to manipulate the Viet Nam War with his commentary disguised as news.
BetseyRoss on July 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
You are probably right. I should use the time to write useless e-mails to my elected officals who will ignore them. I will write them anyway.
Les in NC on July 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I wish more constituents would. The people can’t be ignored forever.
txag92 on July 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Let us all remember Walter for his fine work…….
…………… I am sure there are a couple million Cambodians that will want to thank him for his efforts upon reaching the Pearly Gates.
Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Another political ‘journalist’ hack dies..at 92.
My condolences to his family which no doubt he was a loving dad and husband to.
Now on with some news.
Handel on July 17, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Mixed feelings here:
He was one of the most remembered voices of my youth, but as I became a bit more aware of the world around me, his liberal views destroyed any respect I had for him at all.
My epitaph: Great pipes. Lousy character.
J.J. Sefton on July 17, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Back in the stone age, I lived in an area that had one TV station (!) and CBS was it.
I was too young to realize then what a flaming liberal he was, but I do remember his voice in the house right around dinnertime.
tru2tx on July 17, 2009 at 8:49 PM
I think specifically he was the one shouting to the rooftops that American troops had been defeated in the Tet Offensive when, in reality, the U.S. won that engagement.
Kafir on July 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM
All of that was before my time so I appreciate the explanations.
txag92 on July 17, 2009 at 8:49 PM
My mother used to say that when a man’s dreams are fulfilled, he has no reason to go on living. I guess that’s the case here. WC lived long enough to see a socialist elected president and now he’s gone.
Kafir on July 17, 2009 at 8:50 PM
On this point I disagree. There was no way to win in Vietnam. Cronkite was probably the first in the media to express the truth that most already understood. The public had already lost its fortitude for continuing in Vietnam.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Good riddance to the traitor.
Vic on July 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Nothing has changed. Same old media. Same old message.
katy on July 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Hanoi Fonda weeps.
Me, not so much.
Ok, not at all.
artist on July 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Cronkite shouldn’t have ever made it big except as a screenwriter. He got his career in broadcasting by making up sports plays out of whole cloth, faking live radio coverage of football games. The fact that a professional fabulist obtained the title “most trusted man in America” tells you how bad off we really were.
JSchuler on July 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Yeah. See “Tet Offensive”. I was there. On the ground. We won. Ol’ Walt had the country believing we lost.
guntotinglibertarian on July 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Walter Cronkite started out okay, but sometime around Vietnam he took a major left turn.
I truly believe he became senile over the last 30 years of his life.
RIP just the same, WC.
Dave R. on July 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Cronkite was a Kennedy lover so he was more than ready to trash LBJ for his Veitnam policy. I cant blame Kronkite for that as 1968 should have finally showed America what a loser Liberalism was.
But Cronkite bought into the “Great Society” mindset and like all good liberals that became his religeon.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Both of my ex’s and four of five of my kids are far left types. I wouldn’t wish Hell on any of them.
Or AllahP, for that matter, the heathen that he is ;)
Ugly on July 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
They said the same about Iraq.
Insurrections take 10 to 12 years to defeat. They are neverquick wars.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Hey kids,
Think of this as the dress rehearsal for Teddy Kennedy’s death.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 8:54 PM
four of five of my kidsfour of my five kids
Ugly on July 17, 2009 at 8:54 PM
But he wasn’t just a defeatist in ‘Nam. He continued his defeatism to the current war in Iraq. I seem to remember him even sending back negative reports from Normandy.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Von Clausewitz said that you have to win a war quickly before the enemy adapts to your tactics.
aengus on July 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Except we did win. Had a peace treaty and everything. We only “lost” it when Congress passed a law making enforcement of said treaty illegal, at which point the entire North Vietnamese army came down… in tanks…
JSchuler on July 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Indeed. Had we backed down against the left, 30 years from now they’d be talking about how the war in Iraq was already lost and people like Harry Reid were just expressing an already-truth.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Yes we did. My grandfather called CBS the Communist Broadcasting system back in 1975.
Bobbertsan on July 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I wont celebrate anyones death. That is just wrong.
I would celebrate a Keith Olbermann firing. That would be justice.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I think the media needs to do another “most trusted person in America” poll now. It’s the only way to get them to tell us who is the least trustworthy.
Buddahpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
He always played favorites-and then went boating in Marthas Vineyard with his peeps. I’ll shed no tears.
jjshaka on July 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM
The public had lost its fortitude because they saw clearly that our DC elites had no intention of waging a winning war. The troops saw it, too: we were loading body bags onto Hueys and then going back to base and seeing on TV how LBJ was calling yet another halt to bombing of the North.
guntotinglibertarian on July 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Oops. Let’s try this again:
Yes we did.
Bobbertsan on July 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM
I wouldn’t go that far. You’re all invited over for a celebratory barbecue if a bomb drops on Osama Bin Laden’s turban.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Cronkite started out okay, but then I think his ego got the best of him. “The most trusted man in America” went to his head. He became the news and no longer reported it. Does that sound like anybody we know today?
RIP WC, may God bless your family and friends.
d1carter on July 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
That is completely nonsensical. It’s like saying civil wars generally last 5-7 years. Or religous wars last 20-30 years. The nature of a conflict has nothing to do with its possible length.
aengus on July 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I think you missed the meaning of my comment. Cronkite made his infamous anti-Vietnam commentary after years of drafted military being sent to war. It is a different dynamic than an all-volunteer military fighting one of these conflicts. I’d also add that the sheer numbers of personnel differ because of the technological advances. Fewer troops involved, fewer deaths, nobody drafted.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I always loved the “If we kill 1 enemy ten takes his place” veiw of the anti war loons. I would love to see how many jihadis are lining up now to end up dead in a afghan firefight. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel as it is.
Zawahiri was crying just two days ago about how Islam is on the brink of being destroyed in pakistan. They see the end and they know it.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Only the good die young . sherube
redrock on July 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Unlike Saddam, Ho Chi Minh had the support of the people. We were viewed by many Vietnamese as just the latest colonizers who got handed the keys by the French. Very different war from Iraq.
dedalus on July 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Rest in peace WC and my sympathy to his family.
Please, God, can we not have another week of celebrity worship.
Cindy Munford on July 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Walter Cronkite actually makes my list of greatest MASS MURDERERS in History!
The “Tet Offensive” ranks as one of the greatest military VICTORIES in American history. Victories
The ratio of enemy dead to American and allied dead was staggering…surpassed only by the Battle of New Orleans and a couple others. Had Cronkite NOT said what he did, but had instead reported the TRUTH, the Vietnam War might have ended right there!!
The North Vietnamese considered surrendering UNTIL they saw the world press’ reaction to Cronkite’s statement. They then decided to fight on.
The war dragged on, and tens of thousands died. Vietnam fell…and millions died. Cambodia’s killing fields, and many more atrocities resulted from the war NOT ending after the overwhelming DEFEAT of the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces in Hue and in the Tet Offensive.
Walter Cronkite gets to own ALL those deaths.
So, yup, he can burn in hell!!
Justrand on July 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Rest in peace Walter Cronkite!
canopfor on July 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I knew some who knew him fairly well. They confirm our impression he was a very decent man. A lib, yes. But a very decent man… and a patriot.
But the damage he did this country on Viet Nam can never be forgotten.
petefrt on July 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
OK find me a Civil war that lasted over 8 years ?
Or an insurrection that was over in less than five.
The nature of a conflict always defines its length.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
It’s crazy….Robert McNamara, now Walter Cronkite….
I wish both their families condolences.
nazo311 on July 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I should rephrase that. I wont celebrate any fellow Americans death.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM
It broke my heart when I found out he was a commie. He sounded just like my grandfather.
noblejones on July 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
One thing has changed, dear kate……………
………… now the MSM doesn’t even pretend to be bias anymore.
Republicen = Devil, Democrat = Can do no wrong………
………..”….. and that’s the way it is.”
Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Wow. Lots of hostility toward a man who helped shape America. Just because you disagree with him politically, you revel in this? Karma is strong, and the Judgement Seat will not be kind.
dcwvu on July 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
“The war is lost.” — Senator Harry Reid
Defeatists, all of them. The difference is we didn’t listen to Reid.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Point taken. I was talking about the outcome not the what ifs.
Sad to say, the current Congress wouldn’t even have the resolve to discuss such matters.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
That was propaganda. Ho Chi was really just a sybolic figure. He originally was willing to work with America to get rid of the French. He only converted to communism when China went Red and they used him to attack the French.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
He would have been been culled long ago under our glorious new ObamaCare paradise. Well, depending who’s in charge of Fed Health anyway.
He died at 92. Congratulations, I say.
And Vietnam was a disaster! Stupid liberals always dragging us into stupid frickin’ wars!
Rae on July 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
He retired the year I was born, and it seems his most controversial moment is Olberman’s lifelong dream, assuming he could ever be half as influential.
Can’t say I even thought much of him, either positive or negative, but I hope he rests in peace.
Esthier on July 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
I sure hope so……..
Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
100% We wiped out the Viet Cong during Tet. After that, we were facing regular NVA, for the most part.
Ngo Dinh Diem realized that there was no way to defeat us on the ground, but he knew he could defeat us in the media. And Cronkite was useful idiot #1.
Burn in hell, Walt.
guntotinglibertarian on July 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
RIP
blatantblue on July 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Bullshit. Thomas Jefferson shaped America. Cronkite influenced America. There is a difference.
highhopes on July 17, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Well, I have always found this puzzling. I was not born when Walter Cronkite reported, but why has the media always been liberal? Why couldn’t a charmer like Reagan change this phenomenon? Is it because in its intent to “conserve”, conservatives are just not that news worthy? What is it? Has anybody done any analysis on this?
peter_griffin on July 17, 2009 at 9:06 PM
You pointed out to me a key difference between the Right and the left.
The left worships entertainers (even politicians)
The right worships acheivers
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:07 PM
RIP, Walter.
It is ironic, in celebration of 40 years since Apollo 11 was shooting for the moon, I was about to sit down for a long and enjoyable ‘From the Earth to the Moon’ Marathon.
The passing of Walter Cronkite, a voice that was part of that great moment in American history, will make it even more memorable.
What a historic life…
HornetSting on July 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I was a Directory Assistance operator in Rhode Island the early 1980’s and we covered South Eastern Massachusetts in our listings. This was back before computers. I sat in front of big green phone book.
I was really bored one day so I looked up famous people I had heard lived on the Cape or the Islands. They all had non-published phone numbers. Customers never believed us operators, but we couldn’t see anything but the name and then ………………..NP when it was non pub.
Walter Cronkite had a listed phone number.
Jaynie59 on July 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I think it can be traced back to Murrow. He and his tussel with Joe McCarthy. Ever since then the left took over big media.
But not radio people like Reagan thrived there.
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Yet tech CEO’s like Brin or Page or Jobs tilt left. I think this is a bit of a generalization.
peter_griffin on July 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Oh, please. I hope he rests in peace, but he had a very negative impact on the nation. He was a defeatist in American military actions throughout his life. He pushed for a global government.
He constantly bashed our side, from Bush to Fox News, like any other doctrinaire liberal. In his later life, he spewed his anti-conservatism on HuffPo.
Again, I hope he rests in peace. But I’m not about to write the pope to demand his make Cronkite a saint. I’m not comparing the two, but Hitler influenced America, too.
amerpundit on July 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Yeah, if the US had helped Minh rather than listen to the clueless French, Vietnam might have been a Cold War ally rather than a costly war.
I agree Minh was an opportunist–communism or capitalism would have been a function of whoever was providing him with weapons. The ideology was less important than the cause of nationalism and evicting the occupier–whether French, US or Chinese.
dedalus on July 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
First Michael Jackson ruins a weekend and now this.
Expect several days of a self agrandizing media circle jerk.
RobCon on July 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
RIP & condolences to the family.
The thing about Tet was that it killed about 25% of the North Vietnamese forces (IIRC) and Ho Chi Minh thought it was a disaster, which it was militarily. But the MSM then reported it as how strong the NV were. They did help snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
rbj on July 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Hey Walter – Thanks for everything.
General Giap
RobCon on July 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I can see from this thread that some our younger commenters were taught a very different lesson about the war in Vietnam, the role of the media and how it was used by the Liberals and Communists, and the resulting genocide as they stood by as ‘innocent bystanders’………….
………. and then there is the truth.
Do some research young ones…………
……… Walter Cronkite died with blood stained hands.
Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I wonder if THAT will be reported in ‘dinosaur’ media….THAT part of his legacy will be up there with Jane Fonda, Jon Murtha, and Harry Reid…..traitors to the troops. At least, for the most part, he kept his feelings to himself.
HornetSting on July 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM
good greif some people cashed in the technology boom and they are acheivers ?
William Amos on July 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I am old enough to remember the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite…While he was not the voice of my generation he was the voice of my parents generation. As far as his politics until the Vietnam war era he kept them to himself. I will not pass judgement on his life but his career was stellar regardless of your feelings about his politics. My only thought is May God keep and protect him always.
JKotthoff on July 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM
That’s a good point. However, TV (in Cronkite’s time) and internet (in our time), are the current technology. Letting liberals take control of the latest technological media is not a good idea in any shape of form, unless there is some reason which makes it impossible for media to be not liberal.
peter_griffin on July 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Cronkite was the prototype for the “pretend to be objective, but take every opportunity to further the socialist/communist/facist agenda” style of news reading. He has blood on his hands.
In a lot of ways, he was also the prototype for Obama’s hall of mirrors.
notagool on July 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM
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