The mask slips for global-warming activists
posted at 2:17 pm on July 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The global-warming climate-change movement has insisted that their primary concern is to keep the planet from overheating due to greenhouse-gas emissions. If so, one would expect that they would stick to plans that cut those emissions and focused on nothing else. However, the latest proposal on international carbon caps shows that the movement is less concerned with carbon emissions and more concerned about kneecapping economic success:
Researchers in the U.S. have proposed a new way of allocating responsibility for carbon emissions they say could solve the impasse between developed and developing countries.
The method sets national targets for reducing carbon emissions based on the number of high-income earners in each country, following the theory that people who earn more generate more CO2.
“It’s fairer than some other ideas out there in the sense that we attribute responsibility for emission reductions based only on the number of high-emitting people in the country — if the country has large number of people who are high-emitters then it has more work to do,” said Shoibal Chakravarty, a research scholar at Princeton Environmental Institute. …
“By and large for every 10 percent increase in income, the emissions from a certain person go up about six to 10 percent. This is true pretty much everywhere in the world. … What happens is that initially people spend their money mostly on direct use like transportation, air conditioning, heating and cooling and so on,” Chakravarty said. “But they also spend a lot of their money on buying goods, and buying stuff. And to make stuff you use energy and you produce emissions.”
Let’s make this clear. First, Princeton has to resort to the hypothesis (not “theory”, which indicates a substantial level of proof in scientific jargon) that higher-income people generate more carbon emissions because they can’t measure it. When people use the phrases “By and large” and “pretty much everywhere,” they’re not speaking scientifically but giving opinions. In this case, they’re looking at data on emissions by country (an inexact science anyway) and comparing it to rankings from the World Bank, hardly a rigorous scientific process.
Second, this makes little sense anyway. The act of earning a living doesn’t generate carbon emissions — consumption and production do. If you wanted to tax for carbon emissions, you would tax consumption or production directly, not income, even if you can’t scientifically relate carbon emissions to either. The relation between income and emissions is at best indirect. At least consumption relates fairly directly to production, and a tax on the former would definitely suppress the latter in any economic system.
So why focus on income? The entire point of the global movement to arrest energy production is to punish the industrial nations for their wealth. This is just redistributionism writ large. They don’t want to limit carbon emissions per se; they just want the right people to emit carbon. Nations like the US, the UK, and other Western nations would have to be out of their minds to agree to a regime that allows China and India to emit far more carbon per capita than themselves, in order to meet some Utopian ideal of “fairness” in economic success.
If activists honestly want to limit carbon emissions, then they would argue for consistent limits for all nations. This kind of system reveals the underlying animosity to modernization and economic success that lies at the heart of the environmental movement in general and global-warming hysterics in particular.










Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages: 1 2 Next »
I think, by and large, that cap and trade is a huge scam meant to screw pretty much everybody.
UltimateBob on July 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM
We need to get organized to counter this.
Unfortunately the RNC seems to be sailing in circles under the helm of Graham and McCain.
Is there ANYBODY that can put a grass roots effort together?!
Skywise on July 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM
FIFY
gatorboy on July 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Sounds like a job for……
SARAH CUDA!
UltimateBob on July 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM
shh… don’t let the RNC ‘elite’ hear you talk like this! Next thing you know we’ll have another article from Frum et al recanting how rediculious Palin is.
gatorboy on July 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Don’t worry didn’t the one say he’ll keep the temps from rising on his trip. They just want more of our money to pay off their cronies. That’s why they need the money. Since you make money by working that’s the easiest way to get it. They just think people are stupid and will believe what ever they say. So they make crap up and hope it sticks.
Brat4life on July 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
What about Gore’s speech this weekend where he admitted that Cap and Tax was another step on the road to one world government?
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance
MarkTheGreat on July 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Palin brought the debate out in the open.
Begin there…
right2bright on July 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
heh.
Of course, I was using the leftspeak from the article.
UltimateBob on July 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
My hypothesis is that Lefties increase world misery by an average of 48-67% over their comparable Conservative counterparts. On that solid scientific basis, I say we sterilize all the Lefties.
Cicero43 on July 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Cap and Tax doesn’t help Africa at all. Imagine that.
SouthernGent on July 15, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Do they breath more heavily?
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 2:24 PM
It’s never been about the environment; it’s always been about control.
Vic on July 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Why bother trying to pass this off as a CO2 issue. Why not just say, “These people have too much money, so we’re going to take some of it.”
At least be honest.
Daggett on July 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Or
global coolingglobal warming“climate change” activists could do Gaia and the rest of us all a favor and kill themselves to stop emitting their carbon and stop their consumption.In fact, every second they exist and every time they breathe, eat or crap, is a direct contradiction to the central pillar of their religion – THOU HUMANS SHALT NOT CONSUME/PRODUCE/EXIST.
Good Lt on July 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
The hypothesis can be disproved by standing on any corner in any city in Mexico and observing the smog and trash compared to just about any city in the US barring Detroit and making the same observation.
Prolly works for India, China and most other third world locales as well.
DanMan on July 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM
This isn’t Russia.
Wait, is this Russia?
NoDonkey on July 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Or how about the interview where he lied about the outcome of the suit in the British courts regarding his film?
UltimateBob on July 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Not to mention employ people, creating wealth that can then be taxed for various things.
The Left doesn’t just want socialism/fascism/communism. They want feudalism, they want us peasants to stay close to the manor, working the land while the dukes and earls go off around the world. And whoever heard of a peasant wearing shoes. Silly peasants.
rbj on July 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Scam artists in the U.S.
ICBM on July 15, 2009 at 2:28 PM
He has a BA degree and crappy grades. Why does anyone listen to this idiot?
BrideOfRove on July 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM
From OReilly last night..
Cap and trade and corruption
“There’s a big con going on, and it is outrageous. Under ‘cap and trade,’ the feds tell heavy industry what they can spew into the air. If a company goes over the emission amount, they must buy ‘carbon offsets’ from another company, so the companies that keep emissions low make money. Less gunk in the air is good, but this is the con: Some big corporations will make billions off this ‘cap and trade’ deal. Goldman Sachs is a goliath investment company that last year made more than $2 billion in profit, paid its CEO about $43 million, but paid zero in federal income tax. Goldman owns a 10% stake in the Chicago Climate Exchange, where the ‘cap-and-trade’ deals will be made, and stands to vacuum up money. Also, Goldman employees gave President Obama’s campaign more than $1 million. Guess who else is invested in ‘cap and trade?’ Al Gore founded a company that will profit big time if the ‘cap and trade’ deal becomes law. Since Al Gore launched his global warming crusade, his net worth has increased 5,000% to more than $100 million. This definitely sounds like ‘change,’ change that Mr. Gore and Goldman Sachs can believe in.”
The Factor interrogated Fox business anchors Stuart Varney and Cheryl Cassone about the financial aspects of “cap and trade” legislation. “Look at the cost of this,” Varney began. “Energy prices will go up, utility bills will go up, and what is the benefit? Zero! No noticeable difference to the climate in the near future. There will be lost jobs and the ruin of American industry – when we start putting restrictions on our ability to manufacture at a reasonable cost, companies will exit the country.” Nevertheless, Cassone predicted that some version of the legislation will be enacted. “This president has strong approval ratings and a majority in Congress, and a very watered-down version of ‘cap and trade’ will pass, but it is all for nothing. Goldman Sachs and others will make money off it, and why shouldn’t they?”
reshas1 on July 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I am so tired of this misuse of language by liberals. In a truly fair world, people who are better than others through talent or hard work, earn more, and accumulate more wealth. Only in some twisted mind can equality of outcome be considered fair.
Vashta.Nerada on July 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Dear global warming freaks- I am wearing a sweatshirt today because the temp here in nw Wi. is barely 70 on July 15. No global warming here.
scorpio9 on July 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Scotland, huh?
No offense, but what do they produce that would get in the way of a 42% reduction of carbon emissions? Aren’t they a bit pastoral to be considered a developed nation?
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM
But, but he also has a Nobel Prize!
Just like Yasser Arafat.
Cicero43 on July 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM
I can pretty much guarantee that the “carbon emissions” from my welding shop would qualify as excessive under the scheme these dolts have created, and I’m far from rich.
I suppose they will just toss me in there anyway, more than likely I have killed way over my fair share of Polar Bears.
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM
The total opposite of reality, most likely.
I would think that the wealthy liberal elite probably have a smaller “carbon footprint.”
Poor plebes like me can’t afford the more expensive CFL bulbs, organically grown food, a new hybrid car, and other more expensive “carbon neutral” products.
CurtZHP on July 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM
I also love the part where the Ivory Tower tells the Chinese that they have 10 years before compliance will be expected.
Any bets on Beijing giving a damn?
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Two reasons the Nobel Prize is worthless.
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM
At some point or other, don’t we need some kind of firm deadline from these people as to when exactly the world’s going to end in a fiery heat wave of death?
And when that dates comes and goes – can we all move on to the next phony panic? Or wait – has the date already come and gone?
Seriously, kids. The planet has cooled for a decade. Your silly OHMYGODITSACRISISHELPUSALGORE thingie is a bust. I’m bored now.
Whatever happened to hundreds of millions starving by the year 2000? That was a good one. And I assume AIDS has been cured, since nobody seems to care much about that anymore. (Well, except President Bush …).
The whole global climate manbearpig something deal is so 1996. C’mon, liberals. Quit spinning your greatest hits album all the time.
Give us some new stuff. Seriously, you’re giving conservatives all the cool threats: terrorists and nuclear war and stuff like that. Your little “oh gosh the world might warm up half a degree by the time we’re all dead” is so lame in comparison.
Listen up, this is a freebie: an impending alien invasion. Martians, not Mexicans. Plus, these aliens don’t speak English, they’ll take our jobs, and impregnate our women. And pollute alot. And they’re vampires, too. Or zombies. Either is good.
That’s the ticket. Yes, you’re welcome. And no, I don’t trust Sarah Palin to fight off the Horny Alien Vampire menace either.
Professor Blather on July 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Because that’s the Democratic platform and the first rule of the Democratic platform is that you never admit the Democratic platform?
LibTired on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Not so fast!
I thought they recently claimed that cattle & livestock are the biggest causes of greenhouse gas – even more than jet airliners!
Under that theory, every Biafran with an ox needs to be taxed more than the wealthy. But then again, a Biafran with an ox is wealthy.
singlemalt_18 on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Gorram watermelons.
I’m for Galt’s Gulch.
Noocyte on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
It’s quite clear that “global warming” has been scientifically debunked, but this summer is about to turn me in to a raging maniac. Here in VT today is like one of 2 or 3 days we’ve broken in to the 70s, and June sucked too. Basically we’ve had April/early May weather throughout July, when it should be steadily in the mid to upper 80s.
SUMMER, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU!?
RightWinged on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Shhh…that’s next…a FAT tax
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM
The tea party movement is opposed to crap-and-betrayed as much as any other form of taxation. It’s not like the American people aren’t making their feelings on this issue clear. The problem is our so-called representatives in DC are easily bought off by special interests.
The only way to send a message that resonates is to vote every last one of these bums out. Until these idiots actually believe there can be repercusions for any of this, it’s going to continue.
Doughboy on July 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM
With all this Marxist/Socialist Social Engineering Facism heading our way……….
……… the irony is too great not to notice where we are headed, and what the final outcome will be.
Seven Percent Solution on July 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Bingo. A lot of folks don’t understand Marx’s attacks on the bourgeoise. The bourgeoise are not the rich, they are the middle class. Marxist theory depends on a small number of elite ruling over the proletariat.
What the foolish intellectuals who are playing the useful idiots don’t understand is that the ranks of the elite will be filled with those ruthless enough to grab and hold power, and the intellectuals will be the next group sent to the camps or the ovens. True lefties really are fighting to restore feudalism.
Vashta.Nerada on July 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
“…animosity to modernization and economic success”
Ed
I believe it, but I just can’t get my mind around this societally suicidal point of view. This is effing rediculous!
SKYFOX on July 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
The phony global warming movement has never had anything to do with saving the planet. It’s just the latest attempt by the Marxists to seize power and bring about “social justice”.
jonezee on July 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
snorts! LMFAO!
upinak on July 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Why is it that all of these Democrats who are carrying torches and pitchforks in pursuit of the rich, are all wealthy themselves?
Is it OK to be rich as long as you contribute absolutely nothing to society, like actors, singers and Senators?
Just wanna get this straight.
NoDonkey on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
It is through cap and trade and the lame excuse of global warming that liberals browbeat the United State and opened the floodgates of socialism which entails elitist control and micro-managed solicitude. “If we don’t pass this legislation RIGHT NOW the world is screwed.”A sense of Chick-little, sky is falling, urgency is the excuse for hurry-up, unread legislation that contains more hidden dangerous traps and pitfalls than a minefield.
And like Humpty Dumpty, once the egg has been broken,. it is almost impossible to repair the damage. If the United States tries to compete against countries unhampered by cap-and-trade nooses,such as India and China,(especially when you add a multi-trillion dollar health care monstrosity into the mix) it could spell the end of Western civilization.
MaiDee on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
86 in the SE WI…Hmm…it’s actually warm here for a change
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I think an earlier mask slippage was during the Kyoto Protocals when they were going to exempt China.
anuts on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
From OReilly last night..
reshas1 on July 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM
O’Reilly is a global warming (not Climate Change) believer, he talks a good game but is more worried about the money G.E. and Golman Sachs are making. If he was making money off cap & trade he would be talking about how important the legislation is. I do agree the money making scam is criminal just like the theory of global warming.
fourdeucer on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Next up: a bean tax due to higher emissions.
Mojave Mark on July 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Palin is the best chance at stopping this nonsense.
1) She has shed herself of any remaining shackles of the McCain campaign and any activity preclusions of the Alaskan Governorship.
2) She can raise money in a heartbeat so any $$ carrot-dangling from the RNC is meaningless. She doesn’t need to suck up to their whatever.
3) The MSM and their lackeys will never leave her alone; so anytime she opens her mouth it will be covered. And when she speaks common sense and the MSM rips into her they will be exposed for what they are. The first Tea Party she speaks at, or even attends, will be on all networks and cable outlets for a week.
Jed_Eckert on July 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
It has always been about “controlling the means of production”.
Previously it was to the barricades now it’s called Cap and Trade. The goal, centralized rule of the elite. Assuming this and Health care pass, we will have ceded over 25% of our economy to the government.
The pain of it all? We get the government we deserve.
patrick neid on July 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM
In the infamous words of the Wicked Witch of the West:
“I’m Melting, I’m Melting… What a World!”
I start sweating at 73… this has been a GREAT summer!
upinak on July 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM
This global warming “concept” is a perfect storm of thirty years of documentation by freaky environmentalists hell-bent on seeing their life’s work come to fruition, the encouragement and support of closet capitalists like Gore, and an insatiable need for the Dem leaders of the country to exploit any issue for the sake of control.
And poof, you have a marketable crisis.
sherry on July 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Everything about GW and this Cap & Tax scheme is nuts. When it is defeated, I want the people behind it sharing cells with Madoff.
Blake on July 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM
They are delusional.
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Traitors…
elderberry on July 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Extending Mass Control By Purported Elites — the “Theory of Everything” to explain Leftist politics in all of its guises.
Cicero43 on July 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM
It is down here in TX. Mid 90s to 100s every day since early May, and only one decent rainstorm during the same period.
Vashta.Nerada on July 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM
O/T, but the A$$ Clown Franken is questioning Sotomayor on the live stream right now.
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM
All right that’s it. From now on I am going to consider anyone anywhere who has gone to an Ivy league school, equal to a complete and utter retard. From now on, the dumbest people in this country have attended Ivy league schools. Dare to prove me wrong.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
We find that offensive.
Signed,
The United A$$ Clowns of America
Professor Blather on July 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
“By and large”
hmmm..
BY a LARGE (read “obese”) and LARGE (read many illegitimate kids with many “spouses”) family of LARGE-LIVING (read LARGE SCREEN TVs paid for by WELFARE) living in the LARGE PJs (that requitre lots of LARGE TAX EXPENDITURES TO MAINTAIN THE CONSTANT VANDALISM) gets so sick eating food-stamp allocated potato chips and smoking copious blunts and that this same LARGE family must go to the energency ward a LARGE NUMBER of times per year…
THAT’S LOT OF CONSUMPTION FROM A NOT-RICH FAMILY…
idiots
max1 on July 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
It is called communism. Of which organization is Gorbachev the head?
Johan Klaus on July 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Ah. Well, there you go. Mystery solved. The silly manbearpig hunters just got confused: its not “global” warming – its local warming. And it moves around a lot.
Professor Blather on July 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Damn, you read my mind.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Quoted for Truth.
Stomper on July 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM
From WUWT?
Remember that Jim Hansen, rabid global warming advocate, is with NASA:
GISS for June – way out there
My emphasis:
INC on July 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM
It happens every year at this time.
Johan Klaus on July 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM
I am so ashamed that this dipstick is an Indian. Apologies from India.
promachus on July 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM
The next post at WUWT? contains more details:
GISS: World’s airports continue to run warmer than ROW
INC on July 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM
The real motive is not even tax-the-developed-countries. The real motive is global governance. That’s what Algore let out of the bag last weekend. Link
This is all a scam to empower the global fascists and their corporate cronies.
Christian Conservative on July 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I think we got a few degrees of their temperature, and they got almost all of our rain. It’s not fair, I tell you.
/
Vashta.Nerada on July 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Sorry. lol. Next time, I’ll talk slowwwerrrr…
;)
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I have about 250 salt cedar trees on my property here in NE AZ. Send me your address and I’ll assign some trees to you for carbon credits. gratis. If Gore can do so can we
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 2:52 PM
There’s a reason my European friends call these people “watermelons,” and their philosophy “BANANAism.” It boils down to a bunch of statists with a thin Green skin, who are solid Red all through the middle, chanting “Build Absolutely Nothing, Anywhere, Near Anything.” It is to my profound regret that we’re obliged to save their skins if we’re to save our own – though dropping the lot of them into the Amazon basin, in the nude save for a knife for each, to make their way with their own wits for once, is very appealing. “Bear Man” writ large, as it were.
Blacksmith on July 15, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Damn, you read my mind.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM
:0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcF_QlhIlww
max1 on July 15, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Just a reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154
Newt, what’s wrong with you?
Special K on July 15, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Then there is this doozy from yesterday:
“There appears to be something fundamentally wrong with the way temperature and carbon are linked in climate models.”
WUWT? links to this article in e! Science News and quotes from it:
Global warming: Our best guess is likely wrong
INC on July 15, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Bill O’Reilly has “drunk this kool-aid,” too. Ugh.
Special K on July 15, 2009 at 2:56 PM
You just didn’t get edukated in the korrect schools with the korrect majors.
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Maybe the rich do emit a little more CO2 because they are working so darn hard to keep on pace with the rise of taxes. The global governance freaks couldn’t survive the third world status they wish to impose on the rest of us.
fourdeucer on July 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM
In a nutshell, this was never about climate, but about control. One of the biggest reasons there is such a rush to vote on science (consensus) and push through legislation worldwide, is that the climate is now cooling, and they want to take credit for something they had nothing to do with, in order to justify their takings of wealth and control. If they wait any longer, their justification disappears, and the results they promised will occur without any action on their part.
Vashta.Nerada on July 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Earth Day is celebrated every year on Lenin’s birthday, right?
jgapinoy on July 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Still no mention that temperatures have gone down every year since 2002?
jukin on July 15, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Late to the party but thanks for joining.
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Hey, be fair! In between their somewhat-lowly-paid stints in academia and their somewhat-lowly-paid stints in government, they usually park their butts on corporate boards or at hedge funds for a year or two and rake it in.
Think Rahm Emanuel, a ballerina who raked it in for a couple of years at Fannie Mae or Larry Summers who made $3plus million in one year “advising” a hedge fund or John “It’s not my Baby” Edwards who earned a few million from another hedge fund.
The list goes on and on.
What do they produce while they’re raking it in?
Connections. Financial service institutions hire them so that when they go back into government, they’ll get their calls returned and strings pulled.
Worked out swimmingly with TARP and Porkulus.
guntotinglibertarian on July 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM
So, what if the Chinese come in and buy up all our carbon credits? I guess we just shut down the whole country…a process Dear Leader has already started.
Wyznowski on July 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Earth Day was started by one on my golden oldie Commie Senators, Gaylord Nelson. The actor Eddie Arnold (Oliver Wendell Douglas-Green Acres) was a big part of this looney movement and 4/22 was HIS birthday
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Do not ever mess with a Texan’s barbaque.
Johan Klaus on July 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM
of
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM
To agree with you and others, I seem to remember a very popular conservative who attracts an extraordinary amount of attention from the media, who has a pretty fair background in energy policy, and who seems inclined to take up that issue. I just can’t recall her name.
Whatever the case, it’s time to sharpen the pitchforks, literally and figuratively.
FWIW: I came across this quotation today–
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. -Jonathan Swift, satirist (1667-1745)
BuckeyeSam on July 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM
86 in the SE WI…Hmm…it’s actually warm here for a change
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM
You must have more dairy cow farts to keep you warm than we do in nw Wi.
scorpio9 on July 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Earth day was always a good day for me to barbeque steaks, drink plenty of Sam Adams, and burn excess vegetation on my lawn. Oh and by the way, if anybody is forced to recycle, then they are pussies.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 3:07 PM
I think we should tax Al Gore’s mouth. Just look at his pic, I can see heat waves emitting from his mouth.
About O’Reilly, he’s full it as well in regards to global warming. He keeps saying Joe Bastardi says there is global warming, when in fact, Bastardi has said no such thing. What he does believe in is cyclical whether, which he says we are in pattern of the 1930′s, 40′s and 50′s. I think O’Reilly needs to go re-watch some of his old shows.
moonsbreath on July 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM
More Democrats (full of hot air) Actually I think it’s the cows here west of Oconomowoc
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Jimmy Carter
Paul Krugman
Vic on July 15, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Income and carbon footprints are the new sins….
Questioning “climate change” is the new heresy….
Failing to recycle, driving a large car or not being “green” should result in sufficient guilt and peer ridicule in order to get you to see things the right way…
Smart cars, CFL bulbs and “paying your fare share” while reducing your footprint are the new atonement for those sins…
Cap and Trade is just another way for you to submit your tithes and offerings… they just don’t stop at 10%….
The new churches are “green buildings”
The new ministers are green czars and fellas like Al Gore…
–and we thought we had separation of church and state. Hmph
ted c on July 15, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Besides Oconomowoc, it hot today in Wauwatosa, Mukwonago, Mequon, Kenosha and Muskego.
Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM
All those beautiful Indian names, and they had the unmitigated gall of calling Green Bay/Stinking Bay.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM
The only recycling I do is to burn all my paper products so my trees can suck up the CO2. It’s called the carbon cycle to the uninitiated.
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Comment pages: 1 2 Next »