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posted at 10:30 pm on July 15, 2009 by Allahpundit
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“You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months worth that much?…
Rationing health care means getting value for the billions we are spending by setting limits on which treatments should be paid for from the public purse. If we ration we won’t be writing blank checks to pharmaceutical companies for their patented drugs, nor paying for whatever procedures doctors choose to recommend. When public funds subsidize health care or provide it directly, it is crazy not to try to get value for money. The debate over health care reform in the United States should start from the premise that some form of health care rationing is both inescapable and desirable. Then we can ask, What is the best way to do it?”
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WHY MUST THE GOVERNMENT DO ANYTHING AT ALLLL
battleoflepanto1571 on July 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Tell a thirteen year old that their grandmother is too old to get a liver transplant…..in ten years that thirteen year old will laugh in your face while they watch you die of something too!!!
Vntnrse on July 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM
You’re a 77 year old alcoholic Senator. You have inoperable brain cancer. It will kill you, probably in a year or two………
Marcus on July 15, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Saw the byline and didn’t need to read any further.
Go boil your infanticidal head, Singer.
Fallen Sparrow on July 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM
I could be wrong, but isn’t a Federal health care plan unconstitutional? Seems like a Tenth Amendment issue to me.
jimmy2shoes on July 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Beautiful point. BTW I found the rick sanchez slo mo tasered video its on the other thread
elduende on July 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Obama has an easy answer to these sticky ethical dilemmas while your still in the womb….or writhing on the shelf in the hospital linen closet. The situation gets a little more complicated when you manage to hang around for a while doesn’t it? Is this above his pay grade too?
skree on July 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM
I’m coming down with a sty.
Can I have a nickel?
fogw on July 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM
biting. my. tongue.
D2Boston on July 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Abso-freekin-lutely, six months is worth $54,000. If my insurance didn’t cover that, I would pay it out-of-pocket in a heartbeat.
Note how, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, the government already knows what we are, and we are now discussing price… The government has decided that it is only worth so much of “their” money to keep us alive for another day. Look for that number to keep going down, down and down.
gridlock2 on July 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Do I get to declare my party affiliation or religious views when I queue up for care?
daesleeper on July 15, 2009 at 10:38 PM
AARP? ya there?
Bueller?
Ampersand on July 15, 2009 at 10:39 PM
not to mention the relative value of a net taxpayer vs. a net taxreceiver
and people were nieve enough to think that our days of segregation were behind us. HA!
gatorboy on July 15, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Just take a pain pill and you’ll be fine.
txag92 on July 15, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Yuuuup.
Won’t happen. Evah! I propose Texas lead the charge in suing.
battleoflepanto1571 on July 15, 2009 at 10:40 PM
no, but you can put in a request for last rites
gatorboy on July 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Well, that was one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read. Especially when he starts talking about “life-years”. Somebody needs to lay off the mushrooms and coke before he writes another article.
CarolynM on July 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Six months of life, or a new Audi A6 that I will throw away in five years…
Tough choice!
gridlock2 on July 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Put some ice on that.
daesleeper on July 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Racist.
You just got demoted to Tier 4 for that one.
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Obviously the best way is market based pricing. Every economist will tell you the best way to get cheap stuff is permit people to bring their ideas to market, and let the market set the price.
It’s when the moralists start talking about ‘fairness’ and interfering with market based price that supply shrinks and prices go up.
When it is a liberal asking the question, you have to insist they define ‘best’.
Skandia Recluse on July 15, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Welcome to the age of dehumanization. I do not welcome my new insect overlords.
ICBM on July 15, 2009 at 10:43 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if the WH instructs Hallmark to remove all Get Well Soon cards from the shelves, as they will no longer be needed.
sherry on July 15, 2009 at 10:43 PM
No, that is incorrect on just about all levels. What is true is that those who don’t pay for their own health insurance will have to accept rationing, but our freedom to purchase as much health insurance as we want is what America is about. This argument that it is the government’s job to provide health insurance to everyone is insane. James Madison explained this best when he wrote:
And the idiotic and un-Constitutional arguments that the Washington junta are making – that it is the government’s job to ‘provide competition’ in the private markets by participating with government owned companies – is nothing short of criminal.
This nation will have to purge itself of this insanity. Otherwise, seceding will be the only solution for preserving any sense of individual liberty. These are sad times, indeed.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM
They will be replaced with Nice Knowing You cards.
ICBM on July 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM
I think Obama made a deal with the Chinese for these vans.
Name one better way to lower cost than to eliminate demand.
daesleeper on July 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM
The scariest thing ever at my work (health insurance company) was this conversation:
A person in their early fifties with three children has colon cancer. This person is going to die, to be sure, but the cost of their chemo, etc is ramping up towards half a million bucks. The particular plan they are on is basically paying for everything now that the deductible of a thousand bucks was met. Two nurses who should know better were discussing if this person’s life was “worth it” or not.
The one should, of course, shut the h*ll up because the insurance company also footed the majority of the bill for her son’s kidney transplant. Which will eventually top well over a million bucks.
Yeah, now multiply that by about 1000 and you’ve got socialised medicine.
mjk on July 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM
A full blown elitist monster.
My life, or the lives of my family are our own. Who the hell does this guy think he is?
Let’s step down on his reasoning.
What if it isn’t cancer, but diabetes. Diabetes can be a debilitating disease, if not treated and for allmost all cases, it is a lifelong disease. Kids develop diabetes. Diabetes can also kill or complicate other medical problems which might lead to death. Should we just make the cost benefit analysis ay diagnosis? It will cost millions of dollars over the life of a diabetic to treat it (and that’s just for the managemnet of the disease.)
I know you can see where this is going and this guy admits it. Everyone’s life will no lnger have any real worth, simply a value attached to it, not by a doctor but a government bereaucrat.
And this monster is perfectly fine with it.
catmman on July 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Blank inside.
…… I heart Brian Regan
fogw on July 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM
You won’t have to worry. There won’t be any patented drugs. As a matter of fact, there won’t be any new drugs.
Hope you like acetaminophen. Just don’t drink too much. Well, maybe you should. It’ll dull the pain.
BacaDog on July 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM
The author of that piece, Peter Singer, is a eugenicist who advocates for infanticide and bestiality (I kid you not). He is also an animal rights extremist.
pearson on July 15, 2009 at 10:49 PM
If it’s rationed, then you better frigging hope that the Israelis keep up their stellar disease and drug research. ‘Cause socialised medicine doesn’t exactly provide for the ability to do either.
And the Israelis will some of the only people doing any kind of advances in medical science.
mjk on July 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Racist.
You just got demoted to Tier 4 for that one.
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM
OH NOES!
txag92 on July 15, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Does Obama really want to be the president who sent America’s average life expectancy into a nosedive? Well, what does he care, he’s covered for life.
Jim Treacher on July 15, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Good I’ve been wanting to ask the same thing, wasn’t sure if that was a possibility or not…
But Anyway, just think, Barry can have Oprah make the announcement: “And you get to die, you get to die, you get to die! You’re all gonna dieeee!!!” See rationing can be fun!
SoxNation on July 15, 2009 at 10:51 PM
In all seriousness, if this disaster passes, where can we go for good medical care?
txag92 on July 15, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I know a doctor who “recommends” that all his patients get all moles, etc removed by a procedure that is only supposed to be used if the mole is invasive cancer. Which, fyi, is healthcare fraud.
Guess who caught that? Hint: It wasn’t medicare or medicaid.
mjk on July 15, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Israel. And I’m completely serious. Hadassah hospital is doing some awesome medical advances. But even the Israelis send some of their folks over to America for the more advanced and difficult treatments.
Because the most advances in medical science are made in the good ol’ US of A. Until this moronic bill passes.
then it’s done.
mjk on July 15, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Get elected to Congress.
(I’d say my comment is easily Tier 1)
Bishop E. Bishop aka “Bishop”
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Tough questions. Thank heavens the Euthenasia Czar can decide for us.
Ted Torgerson on July 15, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Private health coverage illegal - IBD
DerKrieger on July 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Let me see,,,,, people are being denied health care so we need to have a government take over. How then does the government plan to effectively pay for the take over???
Oh, by denying people health care.
This is like to stupid argument against profits.
Everybody profits. Every body. If we are going to attack the rich for making profits then why not attack everyone and all profits. Who needs to profit from anything at all?? You work as a janitor?? You have money left over after you buy groceries and pay your rent?? That’s a profit! Attack it! You don’t need it!
You a mechanic or school teacher and have a few bucks left over after all your bills?? Sounds like a profit to me! Give it back!
The rich are not the only ones making profits! If the rich should not be allowed profits then no one should have them! We all only need enough money to buy food, clothing and rent/mortgage. Anything beyond your needs is profit!
JellyToast on July 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Hey NYT, YOU GO FIRST!
Ration ALL health care for the staff/writers at NYT and then everyone in the house & senate (their staff and families) who votes for healthcare, for a two year period. If it works out, and (whoever is left alive) is happy… sign me up…but YOU go first!
TN Mom on July 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM
You’re just figuring that out??? This was obvious in 1994 during the debate over Hillarycare. Well, better late to the party than never attending.
Your comments reflect a reality that will never see a serious discussion in either the public or private sector. Rationed healthcare cuts losses which is okay in the abstract but when it is Grandpa Ben who is denied a particular procedure because he is 101 with dementia it becomes personal.
There are really only two outcomes over the current drive by the filthy liar in the White House to socialize healthcare. He wins or America does. I’m glad you’ve finally got it and hope you expound on this new found knowledge to the utmost.
highhopes on July 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Who the hell is writing this?
I have a prescription for his form of mental disease: 500 grains of .50 Beowulf provided by Hornady.
Chaz706 on July 15, 2009 at 11:00 PM
The premise that all will be covered and that this is somehow a free health care plan can not be allowed to stand.
All will not be covered and this is not a free plan. Profits are merely transferred from the private sector to the government and who gets to have the power to deny coverage is shifted from the patient/doctor/insurance company to the government.
JellyToast on July 15, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Yep. People don’t know how this game goes, even though it’s been done over and over.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Here’s an idea. How about I keep my privately insured healthcare and get the drugs I want and the government butts the hell out?’
Blake on July 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Decisions about treatment options and quality of life must be made on a case-by-case basis with the input of health care professionals who have resources to tap when these decisions become extraordinarily complicated (ethics teams).
Tort reform and protection from malpractice MUST enter into this equation for the physician to feel free to counsel.
There is NO ALGORITHM for these decisions and that is what the government bureaucracy is all about.
Stay outta my way and let me deal with my family and my health care team!
keebs on July 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Whoa! Just looked at those posters on the article page. Is that supposed to not make me pissed off? It’s really creepy that leftards will now be making decisions to kill us early.
Blake on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Liberals have proven time and again that life has no value to them unless it is their own life that is in question.
Rode Werk on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM
That laugh is so gay.
He looks like some kind of 6 year old at his surprise party instead of the POTUS.
JellyToast on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM
What kind of nihilist crap is that? 54,000 for 6 more months, half a year, to spend with your family?
Only liberals, those who spent the past 3 decades destroying the family unit, could not see the value.
amkun on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Simple………..
……… I deserve to live.
You don’t……….
Seven Percent Solution on July 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Try this…
coldwarrior on July 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM
I’ve got to start staying at Holiday Inn more often: My husband is going to need gallbladder surgery soon, and he needs a knee replacement. Can I order the necessary parts from e-bay?
TN Mom on July 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM
The solution is simple. Let those who believe in rationing health care enact it on their children and aging parents. Until they do that, they can all bugger off. In the American translation, of course.
john1schn on July 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
What idiots.
Who was it that said we’re now much better off that we are out from under all those religious morals, beliefs, and norms?
We now have people trying to put a dollar value on human life?
Would be nice – if Obama’s daughters got the same value placed on their lives as mine would. But somehow – I believe that Obama’s daughters would be valued more highly than my daughter.
I’m telling you … when I was a Command Master Chief on a Cruiser – I had an incredible time dealing with kids coming into the service who had been raised under this notion that “fairness” is always a goal that has to be met. First time you give an assignment – or deal out a punishment to a kid these days – he says … “That’s not fair!”. I’m not kidding – it’s the first words out of their mouths.
But you can never reach the nirvanic state of “fairness” – because it’s a subjective definition and filled with variables that each individual weighs differently. Not until you actually LEAD people and deal with this challenge do you really realize this.
Which leads me to the question – who are these imbeciles who are writing these essays and spending all this time trying to come up with ways to be fair? They’re absolutely crazy – because there is no way it can happen.
Here’s a scenario – two men have terminal lung cancer – both expected to die within six months. You can prolong their lives by a year at a cost of $500,000 – should you do it?
Well – one of the men is working on a cure for Alzheimer’s disease – and may (or may not) be very close to a cure. Well you might save him.
But try telling the wife of the other guy that that’s fair. Especially if Mr. Alzheimer’s dies before he develops a cure.
The World is Not Fair. The Hindus have a correct assessment of this world – this world is a world of misery and pain – and that is the nature of it. From the moment one is born – he is suffering – he is dieing.
Considering that liberals are so into Hindu philosophy – why haven’t they picked up on that??
They’re idiots man.
HondaV65 on July 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Sutent gives you 6 months. The next drugs give you 9, 12, 18. Soon, the cancer is merely a chronic condition. This is how cancer will be cured.
Kill the market for Sutent now, and you’re eliminating any chance for a cure.
blink on July 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Jeez I hope they don’t ration on the basis of political affiliation like they did with the auto dealerships else the only Republicans alive and getting any treatments will be those under 18.
I prefer to keep the present system. If your too damn lazy to get a job I should not have to have mine rationed so you can have the same care I pay for.
If this gets forced down our throats then the politicians should have to go on the same system, but I guess they would deem them more valuable than taxpayers.
If we’re going to ration than anyone without a job should be sterilized that would save a lot of dough by not having a bunch of jobless, welfare collecting, baby makers, sitting around all day watchin porn, smoking dope, drinkin quarts, and bitchin about how unfair life is. No GED or high school diploma? Sterilize em too dumb to be havin babys on the taxpayers dime.
I could go on but might get called names.
dhunter on July 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Will it work on Kim Ill’s pancreatic cancer!
I would like to see a F/A device snuff him out,before
he dies!!(Sarc).
canopfor on July 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I’m going to have to assume that the writer pays less than $1000/month for rent … just to put a little perspective on this.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
LOL. But the sad thing is that kooks like this are considered “experts” and will shape public policy once Obama gets his hands on our health care.
pearson on July 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
What the hell?
Only reinforces the notion that if the bills were read, they would never be passed.
Bohner had better step the opposition up a notch: he should use his time as the House minority leader to point out crap like this… or he could just read the bill out loud… all 1000+ pages of it.
We really are going to hell in a handbasket. If the GOP can’t stop this… it’s over for them (and all of us).
Goodbye cruel world… I hardly knew ye.
Chaz706 on July 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
HornetSting on July 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Singer is also a hypocrite. He advocates for euthanasia, but spent all kinds of money to keep his sick mother alive. Kind of like Obama and his grandmother.
pearson on July 15, 2009 at 11:09 PM
This is a war and they’re shooting with the big guns.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Um, isn’t it kind of obvious? Pay for it your own damn self and if you can’t get the money, sadly them’s the breaks. Just because government pays for some things doesn’t mean the health care the government denies payment for is totally unavailable. A granny on Medicare can get plastic surgery if she wants. Just because it’s not on Medicare doesn’t mean she can’t do it. Rationing won’t be about rationing medical care, but about rationing costs. At least if it’s done intelligently. Yes, this is the federal government we’re talking about here, but I don’t think Americans would stand for a health care system that denied treatments that would otherwise be legal just because the government won’t pay for them.
calbear on July 15, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Allah,
You ought to hear yourself, seriously.
First of all, if I am spending MY money, for MY health, paying MY doctor for his expertise why is it YOU, the GOVT or anyone else have a say in the matter?
Your first false presumption is that the resources of the health care system are for the govt. They are not they are for the patients. One other fact. If I go in for a procedure I am systemically overcharged to cover those who do not have insurance but make use of the health system. So if anything I with MY health care dollars should be dictating what OTHERS may receive, not the government.
Dr. Dog on July 15, 2009 at 11:11 PM
An extension of time.
Depends on your mission in life,
or your ‘bucket list’,me thinks!!
canopfor on July 15, 2009 at 11:11 PM
WHAT THE HELL? is right.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. I just shut down some Australian on another site belittling our system because it’s “not like” in Australia where “EVERYTHING IS FREE, but there are waiting times and exclusions, but you can still have private insurance if you want to….”
Marcus on July 15, 2009 at 11:12 PM
This guy can be in charge of health care when I’m dead and gone.
I’m now thoroughly convinced these kooks are out to kill us all.
And if it comes to a kill or be killed first I know what kind of choice many rational people will be rationally making.
I just hope I don’t have to start rationing ammo.
Chaz706 on July 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Ask yourself that question if YOU had cancer, you thug.
Don’t tell me, due to your sparkling intellect you will be on the privileged list and won’t need to worry about such things?
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Because going bankrupt over cancer sucks.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 11:14 PM
IBD is on their game tonight.
Great articles on health care.
This is hardly scientific but below are the results of a Facebook poll on health care I participated in this afternoon:
Should the U.S adopt a Universal Heath Care system?
NO – 18,010 (69.5%)
YES – 7,768 (30.0%)
I really don’t care – 139 (0.5%)
DerKrieger on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
No, Singer is a fascist…in the worst definition of the term…as are a grwoing number on the Left who advocate for this sort of governmental intrusion into the lives of the citizens.
Remember, fascism is born of extreme liberalism.
What’s next…eugenics…then we start culling the ginger people, then maybe those who do not meet the ideal in manhood or womanhood…then maybe those who pray or those who espouse a belief in God, …and then…well, pretty soon you run out of people, save for those deemed fit to remain in the brave new world.
Seems someone tried this about a little over a half century ago. Didn’t work out so well.
coldwarrior on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Honest question:
Are there any HotAir readers that are actually in FAVOR of government-run health care? (anninca excluded, we all know)
And if you are, why?
I’m so antagonistic to it and these idiot WaPo Cohen explanations of statist health care that I dismiss ALL aspects of govt. care as horrible. Are there any conservatives out there that even see a shred of ‘good’ from govt health care?
Not flaming, just curious. I know, for instance, that some of the veteran-related issues, dealing with disability, might be much more complicated in a BlueCrossBlueSHieldtype ‘private’ company vs. the VA or the military’s TriCare, but other than that (and I’m still not convinced private care of all veteran issues would be ‘worse’), any conservatives willing to take a stab at “REDEEMING” points of this anti-freedom monstrosity known as ObamaCare????
battleoflepanto1571 on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
“Economics is the study of scarce resources which have alternate uses” – Thomas Sowell
We should start out with the basic premise that health care is subject to same laws of economics as everything else. And basically that means we – as a nation – can never have as much health care as we want; just as we can never have as many houses as we want or as many cars, etc.
So some kind of rationing will always be necessary. The fundamental question is whether that rationing is done using market signals, in other words “price”, or by government fiat.
PackerBronco on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Tough choices have to be made, but let’s not have a governmental bureaucrat making them.
tommylotto on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I hope they don’t ration healthcare like they did the auto dealer shutdowns else there won’t be any Republicans over 18 getting any healthcare.
In order to save money and prevent endless usage how about just sterilizing anyone that has a kid but doesn’t work.
Why should I have my care rationed sos a bunch of welfare collecting, baby makin, pants draggin, dope smokin, quart drinkin, porn watchin, lazy asses sit around makin new recipients of the taxpayer funded healthcare all day and robbin and felonizin all night?
dhunter on July 15, 2009 at 11:15 PM
When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.
It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of “Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:
“Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day” of the year the legislation becomes law.
So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won’t be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854
ICBM on July 15, 2009 at 11:16 PM
If they could have their way, the government would just hand out vouchers for all of those things, so that we wouldn’t have to worry our pretty little heads about *anything* anymore. Especially how to spend our own money.
There seem to be two kinds of Democrats. On the one hand, we have the elite ones who think we’re all too stooopid to take care of ourselves and our families. On the other hand, we have the folks who actually *are* the stooopid ones that can’t wait to have someone else take care of them and their families.
jana on July 15, 2009 at 11:16 PM
how do you find these facebook polls? do you add the ‘poll’ application first? i used to see random things like polls or trends by your market area (ie, click on ‘University of Florida’ and it would tell you the most popular movies and books of Florida students, etc… but now that’s gone)
battleoflepanto1571 on July 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM
So,with the ‘Government’ that has your medical records,
will they prioritize your demise!!
canopfor on July 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM
But having a government bureacrat tell you to take a pill and die doesn’t suck?
PackerBronco on July 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I don’t get the big surprise. Lots of nationalized health systems have no private care allowed. The service tiers become political, though it really doesn’t matter because they don’t have any doctors or development done for their markets. Considering that the US health care market is the only target for most of the medical development in the world and everyone else draughts off of us … this isn’t going to be pretty for the whole world. It’s a good way to insure that 40% of the population gets wiped out by a virus in the next 30 years, given our mobility. … yep.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Paging Jack Kevorkian – Obama has a job for you…
thevastlane on July 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM
ernesto is our first volunteer. ernesto, feel free to tell your kids that grandma doesn’t deserve a new kidney cause, well, old people need to die.
john1schn on July 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Get elected to Congress.
(I’d say my comment is easily Tier 1)
Bishop E. Bishop aka “Bishop”
Bishop on July 15, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Definitely tier 1 material.
txag92 on July 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM
The most important question, and the one most likely to get the public to turn on Obamacare or to have Obama stab himself in the leg, is to ask if Senators, Representatives, and the President still get their special elected official only free health care.
If they don’t abolish it, then they say the the political elite stand above the normal people and what the people should subsist on. If he say he will, no congressman will vote for losing their free health care.
It is the perfect question that guarantee’s its failure in passing. Unless Obama avoids the question entirely.
SnKArcbound on July 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Here’s the same Peter Singer:
pearson on July 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Coming up next,in Team Obama’s second year,Netherlands
Euthanasia model!!(Sarc).
canopfor on July 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Well, well, well……………
Seven Percent Solution on July 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Some of my friends take them. When I see that they’ve taken one I’m interested in, I take it too.
DerKrieger on July 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Yes, if you are a self absorbed coward.
TheSitRep on July 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Aging Adults Czar?
thevastlane on July 15, 2009 at 11:23 PM
What we really need is a people take over of congress and pay for it by rationing their terms. We’ll all have better care.
JellyToast on July 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I really think the Democrats will get wiped out next year over this and Cap & Tax. I only hope the GOP can and will overturn the mess the socialists will have created.
DerKrieger on July 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM
6 months?
Not a chance.
If I had known I had the cancer leading up to this, my house would be in order. 6 months won’t change anything except make my heirs a little less wealthy.
If a Doc told me I would die in 6 months, but for $54,000 I could live for a year, I’d tell him to screw off!
Good-bye cruel world.
cntrlfrk on July 15, 2009 at 11:26 PM
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