Nice state you got there, Kyl …
posted at 12:14 pm on July 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama and his administration don’t mind playing hardball on the stimulus package, as Jake Tapper reports. Yesterday, Senator Jon Kyl suggested that not only should Congress refuse to consider a second stimulus package, they should bring the current Porkulus to a halt before it wastes even more money. Rather than make a reasoned argument for their stimulus package, however, the White House threatened to choke Arizona’s federal funds in retaliation:
On This Week with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said of the $787 billion stimulus package, “the reality is it hasn’t helped yet. Only about 6.8 percent of the money has actually been spent. What I proposed is, after you complete the contracts that are already committed, the things that are in the pipeline, stop it.”
A day later, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer received letters from Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan and Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar all pointing out the billions headed to Arizona.
Kyl “publicly questioned whether the stimulus is working and stated that he wants to cancel projects that aren’t presently underway,” LaHood wrote to Brewer, a Republican. “I believe the stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country. However, if you prefer to forfeit the money we are making available to your state, as Senator Kyl suggests, please let me know.”
Talk about an empty threat! The Obama administration encouraged South Carolina’s legislature to take Governor Mark Sanford to court to force him to accept Porkulus funds. Now they want to posture with Arizonans that criticism of their fiscal policies will result in punitive action against Arizona alone. I guess the Democrats don’t plan to compete for Arizona’s electoral votes in 2012.
Their logic could use some assistance as well. LaHood notes that of the $48 billion in infrastructure spending in the bill, Arizona will eventually get $520 million. First, a quick calculation shows that as somewhat less than 1/50th (or 1/57th) of the funds, meaning Arizonans won’t get the same share as other states. Also, I’m not sure if anyone at the White House realizes this quite yet, but all of that money comes from Arizona in the first place — and taxpayers all over the nation. They’re not promising some vast new wealth; they’re promising to return our money back to ourselves, with a hefty chunk of it removed to pay for the bureaucrats that manage it.
This does demonstrate quite nicely the problem with an overreaching federal government, and especially an overreaching executive branch. It sucks money out of the states, and then it plays favorites on returning some percentage to them. That’s not new to the Obama administration, but they seem pretty cavalier about letting their extortion show.
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jgapinoy on July 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM
disregard….he’s got 60 in the senate…
cmsinaz on July 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Oh i don’t know, medicare??? States have to match the federally mandated funds, do they not?
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM
And you can also try to explain the basis for revoking those funds. I mean, you must have some idea of what the motivation for that is. Is threatening a state to get back at an individual Senator not a criminal act in your mind? This is a serious question.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:19 PM
That is a perfect argument for states rights.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM
That is an underfunded federal mandate, which I mentioned, not the feds forcing the states to take money. What is the mandate in the Porkulus, other than “take the money or else”?
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Aren’t all federal mandates “take the money or else”?
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
You know that feeling you get when you walk into a room and, for a couple of seconds, you forget why you went in there?
Well, moonbats live their whole lives that way.
If, every once in a great while, one of them happens to crawl out of the vortex that’s fine — but don’t ever kid yourself into thinking you can do the job for them ’cause they’ll suck you in every time. You can never count on a liberal to do anything else, but that’s the only real skill any of them have – so they’re all good at it.
logis on July 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM
The more I think about this, the more I like it.
Since the DHS puts out manuals describing normal people as terrorists; does that mean they no longer want their tax money. And the0y are entitled to get it back?
Ernesto says: Lay back and take it. It’ll be over before you know it.
lorien1973 on July 15, 2009 at 2:24 PM
No. They are “these services must be provided/rules must be adhered to”.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Sorry, glass half full.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Most of these far-right politicans cry about the stimulus money while rolling around it in behind closed doors. They’d die if Obama took it away. I hope he does…and brings the red states to their knees economically.
dcwvu on July 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Again moron take a close look at socially engineered blue states look like!
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089,00.html
This is where Obama’s leadership is taking us! Liberals chronic attempt to ram their utopian fantasies on us, inevitably turn into dystopian nightmares that then ask the rest of us to bail-out!
DCWVU you and your ilk are morally repugnant parasites that feed off the production of others.
Archimedes on July 15, 2009 at 2:28 PM
At least Obama isn’t a typical Chicago thug politician…
I’m a big fan of taking a look at the stimulus spendout while we still have a chance to change it. If Dems were serious about helping people, they’d agree to strip out the pork, lower the amount of the package, and impose a 2-year tax cut on capital gains. Businesses would rush to do new projects.
I’m glad the Governor of Arizona had the backbone to stand up in support of Kyl. Hopefully that support continues into their off-the-record communications.
hawksruleva on July 15, 2009 at 2:28 PM
There’s a worn piece of paper in Washington that contains some good arguments for states rights, too.
hawksruleva on July 15, 2009 at 2:29 PM
See! so melodramatic here!
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM
What’s the average cost per job “saved” (I think we can dispense with the pipe dream of CREATING jobs) so far? I know in New Hampshire, it’s over $8 million per job.
If AZ could keep more money in the state, instead of having it taxed or diluted to pay for stimulus, don’t you think they could drum up some jobs for LESS than $1M per job?
hawksruleva on July 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Lighten up Francis, you’re not getting it.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM
The Obamafather (hopefully, with no sequels)
VibrioCocci on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Dood. I live in Arizona. I say, “bring it on.”
microfiction on July 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM
.
The government never really pays it back. They are on the “rolling-refinance-plan”. As one treasury bond expires they pay the bond holder by issuing a new and bigger bond. It is an endless cycle. Except it is growing at the proverbial hockey stick pace since “the one” took over. Two trillion in new debt this year alone. Not counting the trillions that the Fed just up and printed for their friends.
The big problem will arise when bonds don’t sell at low interest rates, when the rates go up to try and sell them, the deficits will further accelerate. It won’t be pretty.
Evidently not many remember the 70 and early 80’s when interest rates on a mortgage were 14 percent or more, and inflation was chugging along at 21 percent.
Dasher on July 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Don’t make us angry…..You won’t like the red states when we get angry…
Paraphrase
Firefly56 on July 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Let me spell this out for you, ernesto; what is an “unfunded federal mandate” if you think that federal mandates are nothing but “take the money or else”?
Now, again, I ask you for an instance when the feds told the states, “take this money, or else”, when there is no mandate behind the money, but just money. To then have the same feds threaten to revoke that same money, just because they didn’t like what an individual Senator SAID, surely MUST cause you pause.
There is nothing melodramatic about this. The federal government is acting in a clearly criminal manner. It is obvious and there is nothing melodramatic about pointing it out.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Good deal for AZ, and moral, too: If Arizona is kept from getting stimulus cash, they should then insist on being spared paying off the debt that created it.
ChrisB on July 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM
______________________________
lorien1973, your post took the wind out of my sails…not because it’s not true. Rush said this am, that we’re fighting for America, not for a politician’s reelection within the Republican party.
When we have no hope, we are no longer Americans, we’re just slaves…and Obama has his revenge, along with his mentors, Ayers and Wright.
S.O.S. – Trinity, (Sarah Palin) we need you now.
– Where are you Neo?
luvstotango on July 15, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Remembering Palin’s speech about “strings” attached to federal $, and watching them appear before our very eyes.
Scary.
cs89 on July 15, 2009 at 3:29 PM
$520 million out of $48 billion represents 1.08% of the infrastructure spending for Arizona. Arizona has 6.5 million people, or 2.16% of the population of the United States. On a per capita basis, Arizona is only getting half of its fair share of the infrastructure funds.
Hmmmm…Arizona is John McCain’s home state. Might that have something to do with the stimulus distribution?
Steve Z on July 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM
So, the guy is constantly whining that everybody EXCEPT the barking moonbats are too gosh-darned “melodramatic” for someone as level-headed as himself to ever take seriously.
Oh, but you figure you’ve just about got him straightened out…
Hey, good luck with that.
logis on July 15, 2009 at 3:37 PM
That’s awfully cocky of them. One of these days the msm is going to wake up, smell coffee and figure out they can make some money exposing these kinds of things. OOps, too late the country has gone down the rat hole.
Kissmygrits on July 15, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Oh, that old thing?
Nothing but bird-cage liner for a Wise Latina.
guntotinglibertarian on July 15, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Looks eerily similar to pics I’ve seen of Chernobyl
guntotinglibertarian on July 15, 2009 at 3:56 PM
I wonder. If you took the “living Constitution” argument in the opposite direction, how much of the government Leviathan could we roll back?
hawksruleva on July 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM
She actually said those “strings” are CHAINS.
atheling on July 15, 2009 at 4:00 PM
What was not reported is that LaHood also believes in Santa Claus, and is especially fond of fungus.
BobMbx on July 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM
This should be printed on pamphlets and dropped from airplanes all over America!!
redwhiteblue on July 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Senator Kyl and Governor Brewer can tell the federal government to stuff it.
And yes, I vote in Arizona.
desertdweller on July 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM
We better figure out where those other seven states are, we’re gonna need their tax money, too. Not to mention the GDP of Germany, France, Australia, The UK, Italy, Brazil, Argentina…
jimmy2shoes on July 15, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Good grief. What silliness.
Ed Morrissey wants to find threats and punitive actions. Based on what?
That’s a threat? “If you don’t want the money, we won’t give it to you” Come on. Be honest. That’s not a threat.
Why do you frame things in such a ridiculously dishonest manner?
orange on July 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Those GDPs won’t add up to squat when the American economic engine seizes. As the US slows down, the whole world is going to suffer like no ones business.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM
orange on July 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
You’re actually proposing that a prompt letter, from multiple federal officials, to a state official that “if you don’t want the money, please let me know” can be taken as anything less than a threat?
I can assure you, the message is clear. In the words, the positions of those who wrote them, and the swiftness with which the letters were delivered. No question.
cs89 on July 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM
After threatening states that said, “We don’t want that money”?
Despicable, lying scumbags is what you people are. Any society that allows you savages in is signing their own suicide note. When the sh!t hits the fan, you had better be looking for a good hiding place.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Before the “Great Society,” American non-defense spending averaged right around 2.5% of GDP. Today (bearing in mind that it’s tricky to try and estimate a “current” budget with the allocations over the past 6 months approaching 150% of last year’s GDP), institutional government spending is now at least somewhere between ten and twenty times the historical average.
Personally I’d prefer to err on the conservative side. But, no matter how you figure it, somewhere between 90% and 95% of current federal social spending has no Constitutional basis.
logis on July 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Yep, it’s gonna be one big, happy, miserable, violent, war filled world.
jimmy2shoes on July 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM
If it walks and talks like a Chicago thug, then it might be a Chicago thug. Sheeesh! Liberals can’t really be that dumb, can they?
volsense on July 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Hey Obama, LaHood (how aptly named was this guy?), and all you other federal thugs: how about you try doing your damn job and securing our border and deporting all the illegal aliens who cost Arizona taxpayers billions of dollars?
If we didn’t have to spend so much money here to pay for the consequences of the federal government’s complete abdication of its Constitutional duty to secure our borders, we’d have a budget surplus.
AZCoyote on July 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Gonna be? You must not have cable.
BobMbx on July 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM
But the war porn will be great! Lots of machete stuff, too. It’s going to be down and dirty.
This is why I advise Israel, if they are going to take out Iran’s nukes, to take the oil fields at the same time. Israel is going to need the bargaining chip after the world sets in on them and the rest of the gulf fields are going to be taken, anyway, as the big crunch hits. None of the gulf states can defend them and the US is now out of the game.
Hell on Earth is coming soon.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Might as well start here. I’m ready, hope everyone else is?
ClassicCon on July 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM
orange on July 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Yeah, and those big Eye-talian dudes who said, “You gotta pretty wife, hope nothin’ happens to her face.” were just paying her a compliment.
So, you’re either stupid or disingenuous, although they needn’t be mutually exclusive.
fronclynne on July 15, 2009 at 5:08 PM
And people think i wasnt serious about the melodrama here.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Nope, I live in a red state. Heck, we just got indoor plumbing last Tuesday. We ain’t really all that advanced and intellectual, yet. Heck, we’re still trying to figure out how spending more money gets us out of debt. We’ll eventually learn, I reckon. Those smart people in California and Massachusetts are gonna show us the way, though. I can just feel it.
jimmy2shoes on July 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM
From an article at National Review online:
“No health legislation on the table requires federal, state, or local agencies — or private institutions receiving federal funds — to check the immigration status of health-program applicants, so some of the money distributed via Medicaid and tax credits inevitably would go to illegal aliens.
. . .
And another part of the Finance Committee plan would exempt illegal immigrants from a mandate to buy insurance. Uninsured Americans would have to pay a fine, but uninsured illegal aliens would be off the hook — thus, they would have no reason to buy their own coverage or to stop receiving taxpayer-funded health services at clinics, emergency rooms, etc.”
Sounds like a great plan, doesn’t it? More freebies for illegal aliens, while U.S. taxpayers continue to get the shaft.
AZCoyote on July 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Looking at the picture for this story makes the following word flash in my mind….”Caution, your about to enter the hyper-spin zone”.
wtng2fish on July 15, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Is this the first shot across the bow of America?
Has the Civil War begun? If it has then the feds are going to get sucka punched…
Just wait for the red states to tell folks to quit paying federal income taxes…
Obama will be screwed because then the Chinese won’t lend him anymore money. It may be katie bar the door. If Obama wants America to look like Iran I think he might have a hullva fight on his hands.
izoneguy on July 15, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Seriously, we need a “Most Dramatic Comment” award every year.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Zero is nothing but a bottom-feeder. He appointed cabinet secretaries just to conform with the law, but the whole freakin’ government is being run by him and his personally appointed, untouchable, unaccountable goon squad.
We shouldn’t take it much longer.
Mr. Grump on July 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM
If you think so, ernesto. I can’t say that I’m that bothered by the “melodrama” label. But you are wrong. Things are going to be worse than most think is even possible. And much of it is by the choice of the left to run this world aground.
You still haven’t responded to my last posts regarding federal mandates and the differences between what the Washington junta is doing (this is descriptive, not melodramatic) and the history of the US.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Quote: “secession or revolution..either way its time and I’m there!”
Just tell me when. I am ready.
The Ronin Edge on July 15, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Quote: “Seriously, we need a “Most Dramatic Comment” award every year.
I have purchases 25,000 rounds of 7.62, stockpiled 6 months of food, cached in 2 different states, and have been attending survialist courses and spent months now working with ex-military folks on asymetical warfare tactics. I see a threat, I move to respond to it.
You want drama? Tell King Barry Hussein to keep pushing. You have not even BEGAN to see drama my friend.
The Ronin Edge on July 15, 2009 at 5:51 PM
+10
BigWyo on July 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Not just that. The message is also clear based on the complete 180-degree difference between how SC and AZ were treated. The WH was pushing the SC legislature to FORCE that state to take the money. Why the reversal in policy, if not in response to Kyl’s comments?
Unless you’re saying the Obama team just wanders aimlessly from one position to the opposite position, and just happen to always land on the stance that opposes the GOP?
hawksruleva on July 15, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Waiting for a “stand up and fight” update from AZ’s other Senator.
james23 on July 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Impeach the anti-American extortionist abortionist Constitutional contortionist.
hillbillyjim on July 15, 2009 at 6:35 PM
I’m still stunned by the quote to the effect that the stimulus is creating jobs all over the country. Like the 50 temp jobs in NH costing how much was that?
These people are certifiably INSANE.
dogsoldier on July 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Why do you frame things in such a ridiculously dishonest manner?
If you don’t see the blatant implied threat in the words of these coordinated belligerent letters, then it is because you choose to deceive yourself.
It was a very unsubtle attempt at stifling dissent, pure and simple.
hillbillyjim on July 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM
The question is, do they really need them? After all, Obama didn’t need Arizona in 2008.
steveegg on July 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Oh yeah? Tell that to the 6 Million Americans who are unemployed. Even Obama admits unemployment will reach 10% this year. Oh, but Pelosi’s little orange marsh mice get a hefty $18 Million of the Stimulus.
TN Mom on July 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM
As near as I can figure, that’s the new moonbat word that means “not a retard.”
Conservative: “Throwing gigantic amounts of gasoline on a house fire, instead of making it better, will almost certainly result in complete catastrophe, which would include burning down the house and killing anyone trapped inside.”
Liberal: “You’re melodramatic!”
Conservative: “Um, OK. Whatever.”
Neo-hippy: “See? I told you you were melodramatic!”
Conservative: “Do you realize that you actually have moving stuff in your hair?”
Moonbat: “Melodrama! Melodrama! Melodrama!”
logis on July 15, 2009 at 6:52 PM
It is easy to be flippant when as a professional student you contribute little to nothing as a tax contributor…
Get back to us when you actually experience government instead of reading about it.
ClassicCon on July 15, 2009 at 6:56 PM
No, they are not… they are however completely lacking any sense of shame, or more precisely, a conscience…
elgeneralisimo on July 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Keep up and pay attention: Go back and read that Team Obama threatened to withhold stimulus from California unless they re-instated the Union helathcare workers $2.00/hour cut in pay.
Read up on Team Obama firing Inspector Generals (without notifying the congress) for upsetting Obama supporters.
Check out the heavy-handed way Team Obama handled the GM/Chrylser deal.
TN Mom on July 15, 2009 at 6:59 PM
What’s happening in this thread is EXACTLY what happened in this book.
fossten on July 15, 2009 at 7:03 PM
This administration is nothing but a crowd of gangsters supported by thugs like Reid, Pelosi, Franks and Dodd. All dishonest and a pack of thieves. It will take decades for the country to recover from the damage, if ever…..
ultracon on July 15, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Like he cared when NKorea was aiming missiles her way; he did not say a peep. Hawaii, OTOH…
ProudPalinFan on July 15, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Welcome to the Thugocracy.
redfoxbluestate on July 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM
As a Zonie, I say DC & the Crats can keep every single penny/dollar they print up and don’t look to Arizona for anything.
Keep the Crats on their heels Sen. Kyl we’re behind you 110%.
Avondale AZ
mmcnamer1 on July 15, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Ah, Grasshopper!
You lost. Remember?
Repugs do as told or else Our Dear President will use his big stickulus package.
kokobin on July 15, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Just in case anybody else gets bright ideas about standing up to Him.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM
There are fifty seven states according to the CinC, so if Arizona is getting one/fifty-seventh, it’s share is the average of what the other states are receiving. Capish.
eaglewingz08 on July 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Barack Hussein Coleone
mizflame98 on July 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Now didn’t we cover that yesterday with woman from PMS-DNC?
No no, NOT Chris Matthews, the REAL woman who used that phrase describing how “blue state” voters treat their masters?
oldleprechaun on July 15, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Go right ahead, bring us here in Texas to our knees, mwahahah, we’ll see how long that lasts when we shut off the lights in every Blue state(we do provide a LARGE percentage of all the elctricity in the US). Oh…and that gasoline we refine down along the Sabine pass…kiss that goodbye too, hope ya got some buddies with strong backs to push your car for ya.
BadMojo on July 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Senator Jon Kyl was elected by the people of Arizona to represent them. Obama is effectively threating the people of Arizona. I have not read all the threads, but this is the exact same extortion and threat that Chavez uses against the Mayors in Venezuela. Mayors are about the equivilent of our governors here. The next step is to find a reason to have them arrested or removed from their positions. Seems we have seen that as well in the example of Governor Palin.
It probably will get interesting if he pulls that crap on Texas.
Franklyn on July 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM
If I was governor I would take only money for infrastructure projects while I privatize other infrastructure to fill budget gaps.
Libertarian Joseph on July 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM
AZ here, we dont need no stinkin stimulus
Napolitano left us with a huge deficit and we will fix it ourselves, we do not want their money, just leave us be, we also do not want and are voting on rfusing to be MANDATORILY enrolled in federal health care or cap and trade limits in our state…
here is what our State Rep told AZ in an editorial this March:
ginaswo on July 15, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Yup.
itsnotaboutme on July 15, 2009 at 9:24 PM
In short, the Chicago Way.
steveegg on July 15, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Crimes only matter if they were committed by a republican.. You know the really serious stuff like buying a tanning bed with your own money or trying to stop a rogue cop who threatens to kill your family.
OTOH, if you are the annointed ONE, then things like doing a “Hey Tony, help me buy this house for a half mill under market and I’ll help you take control of that hospital” are not worthy of a second glance.
Extortion.. hell, pretty soon the senate will be like the bad guys table in Austin Powers. One false move and into the Pirhanna Pool. or, it could be like the other Hussein.. the Saddam Hussen guy, not the Barack Hussein guy. Every once in a while tell certain people to leave the room and the people remaining hear BANG outside the door.
bullseye on July 15, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I hate to say it again but…can you imagine if Bush had done this???
PattyJ on July 15, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Thank you “I won”
I think it has begun….
izoneguy on July 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM
There are fifty seven states according to the CinC,….
Read as COMMUNIST IN CHEIF!
Archimedes on July 15, 2009 at 9:44 PM
The last time someone told us we had to do something or else, we told them to bring it on.
Remember the MLK controversy about AZ? The MLK holiday went down to defeat because the NFL told us we’d lose the Super Bowl if we didn’t pass it. We told them to take their bowl and shove it.
I’ve lived in AZ almost 30 years and there are still enough of us here with that attitude.
Hard Right on July 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Chicago style politics has gone “Big Time.”
DL13 on July 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Ba-ROCK don’t take no jive $hit from Senator Cracker, Yo!
D2Boston on July 15, 2009 at 10:16 PM
My thought as well. I guess he means all those prodjects that were in progress and easily relabled as stimulus projects. They are all over the country. I think I read he only needed 150 signs that said they were being build with stimulus money. That is really not going to help the rest of those out of work who are not familiar with a shovel handle. Those people are just SOL since not only are they not going to get any help, there are going to be fewer jobs by the day as his polices take effect.
Franklyn on July 15, 2009 at 10:18 PM
I saw Kyl in passing on Greta. It appeared as if he was laughing Obama off. I say we get the two in the ring. Kyl would pound the snot out of the girly man.
BuckeyeSam on July 15, 2009 at 11:36 PM
It’s the Chicago way at it’s finest. Welcome to the thugocracy.. look at the link below for a real time debt clock. It’s truly scary.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Conservalicious on July 16, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Nice title… freaked me out.
By the way, I like John Kyl a lot. I wish there were more Senators like him.
scotash on July 16, 2009 at 1:45 AM
Sour grapes over not successfully brow beating an honorary degree from ASU that was never promised, though the media decided Obama deserved. Obama wouldn’t need to pad his credentials if his own were made public, unless of course they don’t pan out as touted.
How many federally funded AZ public works projects won Congressional funding PRIOR to Obama’s Marxist Stimulus that he’s threatening to revoke?
Don’t put it past Obama to hijack/usurp what Congress appropriated, as if that’s Constitutional Executive privilege.
maverick muse on July 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM
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