Nice state you got there, Kyl …
posted at 12:14 pm on July 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama and his administration don’t mind playing hardball on the stimulus package, as Jake Tapper reports. Yesterday, Senator Jon Kyl suggested that not only should Congress refuse to consider a second stimulus package, they should bring the current Porkulus to a halt before it wastes even more money. Rather than make a reasoned argument for their stimulus package, however, the White House threatened to choke Arizona’s federal funds in retaliation:
On This Week with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said of the $787 billion stimulus package, “the reality is it hasn’t helped yet. Only about 6.8 percent of the money has actually been spent. What I proposed is, after you complete the contracts that are already committed, the things that are in the pipeline, stop it.”
A day later, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer received letters from Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan and Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar all pointing out the billions headed to Arizona.
Kyl “publicly questioned whether the stimulus is working and stated that he wants to cancel projects that aren’t presently underway,” LaHood wrote to Brewer, a Republican. “I believe the stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country. However, if you prefer to forfeit the money we are making available to your state, as Senator Kyl suggests, please let me know.”
Talk about an empty threat! The Obama administration encouraged South Carolina’s legislature to take Governor Mark Sanford to court to force him to accept Porkulus funds. Now they want to posture with Arizonans that criticism of their fiscal policies will result in punitive action against Arizona alone. I guess the Democrats don’t plan to compete for Arizona’s electoral votes in 2012.
Their logic could use some assistance as well. LaHood notes that of the $48 billion in infrastructure spending in the bill, Arizona will eventually get $520 million. First, a quick calculation shows that as somewhat less than 1/50th (or 1/57th) of the funds, meaning Arizonans won’t get the same share as other states. Also, I’m not sure if anyone at the White House realizes this quite yet, but all of that money comes from Arizona in the first place — and taxpayers all over the nation. They’re not promising some vast new wealth; they’re promising to return our money back to ourselves, with a hefty chunk of it removed to pay for the bureaucrats that manage it.
This does demonstrate quite nicely the problem with an overreaching federal government, and especially an overreaching executive branch. It sucks money out of the states, and then it plays favorites on returning some percentage to them. That’s not new to the Obama administration, but they seem pretty cavalier about letting their extortion show.
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“I don’t feel I have to wipe everybody out, Rahm. Just my enemies, that’s all.”
CP on July 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM
I can see it now. The US consisting of flyover country, Alaska, and the Southeast with the West Coast and New England connected only by a “migratory route” along the Canadian border so that liberals never are too far from socialized medicine.
highhopes on July 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM
ONe of many arguments that statists have a hard time responding to.
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Well some brave American had to ID and root out those right wing extremists! I get frightened just thinking about them, isn’t there a way we can keep those retired soldiers overseas once they go there? *shutter*
NickelAndDime on July 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM
As a Citizen of AZ. I would say to hussein. keep your money and shove it up the south pole.
How about if we withhold our state money from the fed!. I do not need govt to run my life. My fellow Arizonians can manage with out the corruptorats.
God Bless
hawkman on July 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM
You may be right, but I think Palin and the Cheneys are loaded for bear. I hope some others with credibility jump in soon. Kyl doesn’t strike me as a shrinking violet, so I look forward to watching this skirmish.
BuckeyeSam on July 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM
I like it. When do we start?
johnsteele on July 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Actually, I prefer you shove it up your a$$.
It’s our money. Not yours. TaxPAYER money. And we want taxes CUT to stimulate J-O-B-S from that entitiy that made (and will make again if the Dems get out the way) the U.S. the top dog economic force in the world — private business.
shades_of_gasden on July 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Actually a mafia boss knows how to run a business at a profit.
wildcat84 on July 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM
I hope Kyl calls his bluff and then in a few weeks Sarah comes down to help Kyl out. That would be fun to watch.
Brat4life on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
There you go thinking of it as your money. That’s such a 2007 way of thinking. Your total responsibilty is to produce for the state and the central poliburo of unelected/unconfirmed czars and the Supreme leader will decide what is yours and what belongs to the state.
highhopes on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Is it:
(1)) dense – having great closeness of Parts.
or
(2) dense – stupid.
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
See Detroit.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Yep, they feel pretty confident that the Chicago Way will work most anywhere.
Morons.
n0doz on July 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM
That’s what I like about Dems. They play power politics. The Repubs have much to learn. In fact that’s why they are out of power.
patrick neid on July 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Next week the Texas Workforce Commission will run out of funds. The only source of funds, we are told, will be the Feds. Unemployment checks will stop, cold.
What say you, Governor Perry? What say you, Texas legislature? Will you grovel and take the Fed bribe? Texans want to know.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Both.
infidel4life on July 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Lorien I live in the poorest county of Arizona. (Full disclosure: I chose this so I wouldn’t be bothered by the type of intrusive government that was taking place where I lived in California). The vast majority of the roads in this county are dirt. (The vast majority of counties in Arizona are in the same boat) Most of these are classified non-maintained so the county doesn’t spend any resources on them. So if infrastructure is the criteria for the porkulus then Arizona should get far more than States with fully developed infrastructure. The above said; I’d rather continue maintaining the portions of N-designated roads I use than have the local government bothering me.
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM
The federal government is pretty much unlimited these days in its ability to economically threaten any state.
The tipping point is going to come when a state tells the federal government they’re refusing to enforce any federally mandated spending, and tells its citizens they no longer have to pay federal taxes.
That’s when Obama will have to try and order the tanks in. And I don’t think he has the balls. All that crap he said about raising his own personal military force – that was all a bunch of smoke; he hasn’t done squat.
logis on July 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM
That’s a good one…
right2bright on July 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM
I hope not Texas. You’ve been my rock since this all began. How would you feel Limerick if you DID start paying state income taxes? We in Kansas are only at around what 8% at the most.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Maybe Brewer needs to send a letter to McCain. “Nice senate seat you got there, Mav…”
Christien on July 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM
I’ve returned to the roots of chemistry and have become a practicing alchemist. I’ll make all payments in lead. I promise that my alchemy really has turned it to gold.
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM
There you go thinking of it as your money.
highhopes on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I can almost see the government having total control over the money supply and then giving what they feel is fair to the people.
fourdeucer on July 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM
secession or revolution..either way its time and I’m there!!
F^ck Obama!!
stacy on July 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I am surprised a dead horse head wasn’t placed in his bed.
Thugs…and administration of thugs is what we got.
BillaryMcBush on July 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM
If the price of liberty is hard then the price of liberty is hard. It seems the price of slavery is hard too. I’d rather flag the flag of free choice then the flag of no choice.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Prefer (peaceful) secession, but getting prepared for revolution.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM
CHAINS you can believe in!
james23 on July 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM
LOL. But instead of a horse…a pig.
shick on July 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM
sorry….fly the flag…..stupid Chinese keyboard anyway.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Ray LaHood gives an entire new depth to the word “whore”.
guntotinglibertarian on July 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Cool. Love Texas. This upcoming football season will be my 40th anniversary of being a Cowboys fan.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Hmmm, LaHood will be here in Sarasota next Monday in a Townhall w/ Congressman Vern Buchanan. Might be a good time to ask him about this Arizona business, and holding state’s funds hostage to push an agenda…
ornery_independent on July 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM
CAUTION: Chicago Thugs at work.
Zorro on July 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Uncle Sugar can take the F-22 and F-35 factories. They can take the U-238 assemblers. They can take the Osprey and Commanche assembly lines. What they can’t take is the knowledge to make new ones.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Thug.
Geronimo on July 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Meh. They don’t want the money? They don’t need it. Besides, isnt the crux of his argument that the money hasnt been spent yet, not that its bad to spend money? Wasn’t he told, like the rest of us, that it would take time for the stimulus funds to get spent? and even more time to be effective? (should they ever actually be effective)
If anything, wouldnt this argument make more sense in the fall?
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM
“Don’t Tread On Me” is what flies over the homestead most days since last November.
Firefly56 on July 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM
That’s how it’s supposed to work. Instead of begging for “Federal” funds (meaning the tax dollars your citizens sent to DC, returned, minus a big rake-off), each state should tend to it’s own citizens.
How would the citizens of Texas react to a call from Perry to institute some new form of levy – on a temporary basis – to provide unemployment benefits for their neighbors? My guess is they would rise to the occasion.
guntotinglibertarian on July 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Er, does that number include the illegals who live here? They gotta get their cheese, too. :P
Fly_in_Ointment on July 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM
The exodus would be massive. The immigration would be also.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM
+1 No reason whatever why our children and grandchildren should get stuck paying for the Obamunists’ mistakes, and frankly, the people who were stupid enough to loan $$ to Uncle Socialist deserve to be left holding the bag.
james23 on July 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM
If you think Blago’s budget problems were created by George Ryan, you need to go Wash your brain. The Illinois budget is a product of the Dem-controlled Illinois general assembly, Mike Madigan, Richie da Mare, and the Dem-mob-union thugocracy.
Jaibones on July 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM
I second the motion
chemman on July 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM
“Liberals only have support in a few major cities, it’s just the population is so dense it warps the rest of the state.”
lorien1973 on July 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Is it:
(1)) dense – having great closeness of Parts.
or
(2) dense – stupid.
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Answer: YES
GFW on July 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM
I think they would also.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM
U.S. Government Check Stub
Pay To The Order of John Q. Public
$1000.00 Gross
Deductions $300.00 Stimulus Tax
$200.00 Universal Health Care
$200.00 Cap & Trade
$100.00 Card Check
$200.00 Amnesty for Immigrants
$200.00 State Tax
$300.00 FICA
Total You still owe $500.00 Please make check out to U.S. Government
fourdeucer on July 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM
The point is that the federal government is using the Porkulus to do nothing but enhance their own political fortunes. That is clear from how they forced the funds on states and now threaten to revoke those same funds to squelch complaints about their ineptitude.
There is no question that the behavior of the Executive branch is criminal. People need to to be jailed over this, not least of all the head criminal – The Precedent.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM
“I believe the stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country…”
Just believing in something does not make it so. If it were working all that well, why is unemployment rising?
Oh, yeah – because to a liberal, up is down, yes is no, and it all depends on the meaning of “is”…
psrch on July 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Hmmm… Maybe the secession should include every state but leave the cities. From the red county vs. blue county charts, I suspect that would be pretty effective. Let em see how well they do without the rest of us. :)
Christian Conservative on July 15, 2009 at 1:11 PM
No. No. No. Just the “blame insert GOP politician” mentality of teh statists. I blame the voters of Illinois for the budget issues of Illinois.
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM
FDR used his taxes to build strength. Barry wants to use his taxes to build a watchtower. I’m no fan of taxes, but at least FDR knew his real enemy lived in a foreign palace. Barry thinks his enemies live on Main Street.
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Ernesto, why do you wrap yourself up in so many loops?
Obama said that the stimulus would have immediate impact; released unemployment numbers to show what would happen if it passed and if it did not pass.
For a guy who pretends to be libertarian, you really have an odd way of covering for a socialist.
lorien1973 on July 15, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Absolutely. And despite all the criticisms, FDR did know he had some limitations. Not much but some.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Hands off Iran. Hands on Honduras and South Carolina.
Joe Bloggs on July 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Hands off Iran and North Korea. Hands on Honduras, South Carolina and Arizona.
Joe Bloggs on July 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Go Kyl!!!
I hope Jan tells Obama to ‘talk to the hand’….
___________________
cmsinaz on July 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Garryowen
Limerick on July 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Ugh.
The 38 states + 10th amendment + repeal 16th amendment is looking better and better every day.
exsanguine on July 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Barry thinks his enemies live on Main Street.
Limerick on July 15, 2009
This one lives on 33rd.
Buck Farry.
SKYFOX on July 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM
This is the dilemma the parasites have set up. You can either choose to join the parasites and share a portion of the spoils of your own ruin or you can choose to not share in the spoils of your own ruin and be left with nothing.
The only way out of it is to declare independence and leave the union which is feeding upon itself. The Democrats can only win this game, if you choose to play it. The voters will choose to vote for the parasite instead of the host because the parasite lives while the host has no way out and can only be consumed.
Buddahpundit on July 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM
LaHood wrote to Brewer, a Republican. “I believe the stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country
Oh yeah? Where the hell are the JOBS?
Both Gov Brewer, Sen Kyl & the good people of Airzona should tell the Obama Administration to take the stimulus money back, reformulate it for tax cuts for small businesses to grow jobs,and rebates for citizens.
Wow. Obama runs a very messy & cranky administration…
TN Mom on July 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM
“This does demonstrate quite nicely the problem with an overreaching federal government, and especially an overreaching executive branch. It sucks money out of the states, and then it plays favorites on returning some percentage to them. That’s not new to the Obama administration, but they seem pretty cavalier about letting their extortion show.”
One only need to look to Canada to see exactly how this works.
Here the Feds tax, and return funds to the provinces as “transfer payments” .. One Province overwhelminly benefits by getting more than it’s fair share of these funds, Quebec.
This allows the Federal parties, especially the Liberals to buy votes in their base in Quebec, while leaving the west out. I’m sure you will see the same as Obama has shown a preference to “repay” his friends in blue states.
dugbru on July 15, 2009 at 1:25 PM
If there is any senator out there who would have the spine to tell Obama to shove it, it’s Kyl. I truly hope he does.
Obama is evil. Pure evil.
jennifernaz on July 15, 2009 at 1:25 PM
“they seem pretty cavalier about letting their extortion show.”
Like most criminals
notagool on July 15, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Seek and Destroy is the administration’s mantra. Chicago
hoodsthugs!!!!yoda on July 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I hope Shadegg, Franks, and Flake join in this fight with Kyl….McCain is useless…
cmsinaz on July 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Well, the news is bad, but the reference to the Python sketch – “you’ve got a nice base here, Colonel” – is at least happy-making. :) Thanks, Ed.
tickleddragon on July 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM
“I love it when you call me BIG Pappa”
/I hope he fails.
bluelightbrigade on July 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM
A President with Federalists convictions and a congress that can work with this President could also stop this. If said President said they will veto all bills that that do not comply with the constitution and congresses acts on it…it could end, but would it last?
WashJeff on July 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM
The “voters” Obama needs to win Arizona don’t exactly care about the state retaining independence. They want to be go back to Mexico in the first place, so I don’t see how this hurts him among them.
Speedwagon82 on July 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM
If I remember correctly, Obama said that it was imperative that the stimulus be passed immediately; if fact so fast that no one read it.
Johan Klaus on July 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM
As taxpayers, we can cut off the Federal funds. Just claim 15 people on your W-2 forms and watch the sh*t hit the fan.
SouthernGent on July 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Because you’re all too melodramatic. Like Progressoverpeace. Such melodrama.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM
The strength of the vampire(socialist, is that people
DON’T believe in him.
Van Helsing
Firefly56 on July 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Brewer should accept that offer…
ballz2wallz on July 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM
I gave you a straightforward response.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Oh please. Ernesto, face the reality that you – for some reason – approve of our command economy here.
You’re own choice of what to pick up on in this very topic exposes it.
Instead of bringing up the fact that the Administration is suggesting extortion to support the porkulus, you deride the victims for not being pliable enough.
This is your usual motif. For a guy who pretends to be libertarian, and has said he disagrees with 99% of what Obama does, you have a funny way of explaining “but I understand” when thuggery ensues.
lorien1973 on July 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM
No, Obama was quite adamant that if this bill was not passed that unemployment would be higher then 8.4%, but if passed it would never exceed that.
It has exceeded 8.4%, and climbing…he claimed immediate effect, and it did not happen.
So either he lied…or was severely mis-informed…if they would have taken weeks, instead of hours, to look over the bill, if they would have read and debated the bill, this could have been prevented, and saving billions, and maybe trillions of dollars.
I think he lied and was severely mis-informed…he just doesn’t have the intellect to make these decisions.
right2bright on July 15, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Too generous. They get only the counties they have majority in. Once the deal is finalized, we declare war, give the conservatives caught behind the lines a few days to escape, and then carpet bomb them.
Make the rubble bounce.
Kristopher on July 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Be careful. I claimed 8 from 06 to 08 for two reasons.
1) Cause I paid a lot in child support and could not live without extra money, and 2)cause I said f-u to the Feds. But the Feds have caught up with me and they are wanting their pound of flesh, and have threatened to do just that.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 1:56 PM
The IRS is so completely overwhelmed right now, there is no way they can possibly deal with what happened (or didn’t happen) last April.
Atlas has finally started to shrug. And, of course, that’s not taking the form of a handful of geniuses going to live in an invisble canyon. It’s taking the form of millions of taxpayers finally realizing the federal government is not on their side.
Any free country’s tax system is completely dependent on voluntary compliance. Federal spending so far this year (including allocations and earmarks) comes out to 150% of last year’s entire GDP. Income tax will very soon be replaced by wholesale confiscation of property.
This has happened a hundred times before in a hundred different countries. We can’t stop them from coming for us but, by God, we can refuse to give them the information and seed money it will take to do it.
logis on July 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Ernesto, you’re striking out at the very people who respect what you think yet might not always agree with you. I have read your posts for some time and I think you are real close to an epiphany but are reluctant to relinquish the hold the Libs have on you. Trust me, nobody is being melodramatic. We are concerned and right. You are still holding out, but are starting to see the truth. Don’t give up, you’re getting close to the truth.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM
No, be careful. They are coming at me with a vengeance. Since I sent in my return in April, I have had 3 threatening letters.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM
No, McCain-haters are useless. I disagree w/ J-Mac on a lot of issues, but he is a valuable ally in opposing most of BHO’s agenda. Every time I hear him on AZ radio he’s bashing BHO. Keep it up, John.
jgapinoy on July 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM
The ‘extortion’ bit is par for the government course. To act as if this behavior is somehow above and beyond the American standard is silly to me. Thats why I don’t say anything like that, because this kind of tactic is standard government fare. I mean, federal highway funds are “the people’s money” too, are they not? And were they not used in a similar fashion to force compliance with the drinking age? Under an arch conservative no less. Which is why i consider this kind of lament over “extortion” melodramatic. You all act as if a) you just figured out government is corrupt and b) that its only democrats that act that way, or that its only liberals that can even consider acting that way. Its all so melodramatic, why can’t i sit here are parse the timing of this guy’s argument? Oh im sorry, “victim’s” argument.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM
See Detroit.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Yes, why don’t we take a close look at Detroit. Where Granholm has been implenting the disaterous social-engineering the libtards wish to foist on the nation as a whole.
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089,00.html
If this what you want your state to look like in a few years just keep suppoting Dem’s & Obama! Cause this it what it looks like when you “turn off the motor of the world”, a la Rand’s Atlas Shrugged.
Archimedes on July 15, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Ernesto – It’s okay, but it’s always been as such. And that it’s more blatant, it’s even better.
lorien1973 on July 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Name another instance when the federal government forced the states to take federal money. Usually the feds are threatening not to give federal money (as with highway funds, etc.) and forcing unfunded federal mandates on the states.
Now, you have this singular instance of the feds FORCING money on the states, and then you have the same people threatening to revoke those forced funds because they don’t like what an individual Senator says.
If that situation is not clear to you, I don’t even know what to say.
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:10 PM
You are absolutely right Ernesto. I remember that their were some holdouts on the 21 to drink rules and they were going to lose federal highway funding if they did not fall in line. That happened in the early to mid eighties. They all eventually fell in line. Was it wrong? Yes absolutely. But is the situation the same now as it was then, not quite. Melodrama is kind of harsh. Maybe uber-concerned.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM
It only feels more blatant because the internet’s multiplied the number of stories that can be disseminated exponentially. If we only had a few national papers and the networks as our sole news source, this kind of stuff would never get out.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Most of these far-right politicans cry about the stimulus money while rolling around it in behind closed doors. They’d die if Obama took it away. I hope he does…and brings the red states to their knees economically.
dcwvu on July 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM
we can agree to disagree….He can bash away on the radio, but will he continue to rally with the gang of 14 and play nice in the senate?
cmsinaz on July 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM
That seems like a petty distinction. Which is why I’m not sitting here insisting Obama is a criminal acting in ways that aren’t in line with the modern presidency.
ernesto on July 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Holy dookie!
The audacity of Hussein to threaten a state.
madmonkphotog on July 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Petty? You have got to be joking. I hope you’re joking.
Then name me a single instance when federal funds were forced on the states. Just one. (And I’ll even let you go on the scale, as the Porkulus was of an unprecedented size)
progressoverpeace on July 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Most of the red states are not in financial dire straits like the blue states. They can handle a budget deficit, idiot. Unlike the blue states that constantly stay on their knees accepting big brothers money, if you know what I mean.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on July 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM
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