Huckabee to Palin: Don’t quit the party

posted at 6:00 pm on July 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

A curious bit at the tail end of an otherwise complimentary segment on the ‘Cuda from last night’s Greta. Says Huck, “I’m a little concerned when I hear her say that she may sort of branch out and go third party or go independent.” I wasn’t aware that she’d ever said that, only that she’d be willing to campaign for Democrats if they’re sufficiently conservative. (Reception thus far: Lukewarm to chilly.) My read on Huck is that he’s always working an angle so I assume he interjected the third-party stuff here to plant a seed of doubt in viewers’ minds about her commitment to the GOP. Fair enough, but from a strategic standpoint, he’s much better off if she goes her own way. Granted, a third-party Palin candidacy in 2012 would probably ruin Republicans’ chances, but a Palin candidacy for the nomination would absolutely ruin Huckabee’s. He’d bleed evangelical support and lose his ability to position himself as the “conservative choice” head-to-head with Romney. His best hope (if she runs) is that she skips the primaries and goes independent, leaving Huck to play the “a vote for Palin is a vote for Obama” card on the conservative base in a three-way race for the presidency.

Speaking of Huck and Palin, Greg Pollowitz pushes back against my post from yesterday and says there is indeed a path to the nomination for Iron Mike. In a nutshell, he’d have to win Iowa, then leverage Christian votes to take South Carolina, which in turn would propel him to victory over Romney in Florida and unstoppable momentum everywhere else. Really, though? Even in states that usually don’t matter in the Republican primary, like California and Massachusetts? The more I think about a two-man Huckabee/Romney race, the more I think it has the potential to be a 50-state campaign a la Obama/Hillary, which could pay nice political dividends for the GOP given its identity these days as an exclusively southern party. How sweet — and galvanizing for state parties — would it be if Republicans in New York, say, or a few other big blues finally had a role in picking the next nominee?

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Why beg to keep Palin. The party was embarrassed by her, and embarrassed by her supporters. The people that supported her were regular fly over country people that the east & west coast elites hate. We wouldn’t be welcome at your country clubs, but our “meager” checks to GOP headquarters are always welcome.
When Palin was verbally destroyed by the DEMS and their paid goons, the MSM, where was the RNC? It did NOTHING about it. You abandoned Palin, now she, if she’s smart, should abandon the GOP too. Time for a 3rd Party. The GOP are now the Whigs.

Jeff from WI on July 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Or, Governor Palin spends about a year writing/speaking on core conservative issues.

The conservative base of the party coalesces around her.
The squishies have no choice but to come with her.
Conservatism wins.

massrighty on July 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM

spacewife on July 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM

I’m envious as hell – I’d love to see what you can see!

massrighty on July 15, 2009 at 9:56 PM

I hate that nutjob, dont’t compare me to that weird thing.

TimeTraveler on July 15, 2009 at 6:53 PM

We like you even less.
You are the passerby who kicks the unconscious victim of a mugging.
The last player into the fray from a bench-clearling brawl.
Useless Lurker.
Go now.

massrighty on July 15, 2009 at 9:59 PM

I do not know what Palin will do but whatever she does she is going to be one of the most effective forces in politics that we have seen in a very long time.

On Facebook, which I joined yesterday, Sarah Palin had 96,000+ fans, today she has 662,000+ fans.

I think that the Dems need to be very afraid.

mgtanner on July 15, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Hey, let’s talk about 2012! After all, it’s already 2009.


fossten on July 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Some interesting comparisons between huck and palin:

Tuesday, September 09, 2008

EDITORIAL >>A lot in common: Palin and Huck

The more we find out about Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, John McCain’s running mate, the more comfortable we are with her.

With every disclosure she sounds more and more like our own governor for 10 years, Mike Huckabee, who got passed over for the vice presidential nomination despite his having five times her executive experience.

First, there is the rare political skill of campaigning as a conservative and governing as a liberal. Huckabee campaigned for governor and for president as a fiscal hardliner who slashed taxes and shrank government. In fact, he had raised more taxes than any governor in the state’s history, ran up more debt than all the previous governors combined, grew state employees by 19 percent and greatly enlarged government welfare programs.

Now we learn that Palin raised taxes as mayor of the little town of Wasilla and in eight years raised total spending by 63 percent and office furniture and equipment by 117 percent and ran the city’s long-term debt from nothing to $18.6 million.

Campaigning for governor, she condemned the governor’s plan to raise taxes on oil and gas companies by tying the severance tax to their windfall profits, and also opposed his plan to authorize a natural gas pipeline from Alaska’s North Slope across Canada to the lower 48 states. Once elected, she embraced and signed the windfall profits tax on the oil companies and promoted the pipeline project, pledging $500 million from Alaska taxpayers to help a Canadian energy company build it.

Now from the Washington Post we learn that Gov. Palin billed the taxpayers for 312 days of lodging and expenses for living in her own home and for the travel of family members in her first 18 months as governor.

For a couple of years, until the state Ethics Committee stopped him, Gov. Huckabee paid for his family’s personal expenses in their government-provided home from a state account, claimed furniture gifts to the Mansion as his own and solicited going-away gifts when he finally left the Mansion. But it seems never to have occurred to him to claim per-diem expenses for the days he actually spent working for the people as Palin did. So give her credit for being a little shrewder than our boy.

In still another way he was more frugal than she. Huckabee’s final salary as Arkansas governor was $74,000, which was $51,000 less than Palin’s in a state of fewer than 700,000 souls, about a fourth of Arkansas’ population.

Yes, we’re beginning to feel like we know Sarah Palin very well.

—Ernie Dumas

Shelby on July 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Oh, God. Shelby’s still with us. I thought this troll paid by Defenders of Wildlife was banned long ago.

alliebobbitt on July 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM

huckabee could NEVER win in the general election for many reasons. Here’s one: his SICK joke last summer about somebody pointing a gun at Obama! Can’t you just see how swell that would be having this gaffe-disaster (and racist?) as the GOP nominee on stage with Obama—the recipient of huck’s SICK joke?! At the presidential debates the booing at huck from the audience would be endless, and of course, the Repbus would lose the election AGAIN due to outrage over the GOP’s candidate.

Watch the video of huck’s VILE Obama joke here:

Shelby on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Shelby on July 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM

And, they both once owned Chevy’s.

Sorry, I thought we were just randomly connecting facts, without a meaningful point.

massrighty on July 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Oh, God. Shelby’s still with us. I thought this troll paid by Defenders of Wildlife was banned long ago.

alliebobbitt on July 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Awww, I can tell you’ve missed me. How sweet.

Got run–see ya next time…

Shelby on July 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I thought about a minute before the end of this clip was interesting too- Huck saying “she may be the one I get behind.”

Don’t think he’s that serious about endorsing her, especially at this early time, but it was interesting that he floated it.

cs89 on July 16, 2009 at 12:44 AM

Anybody else notice how every anti-Palin article seems to tell her what she should be doing?

Anybody else notice that she hasn’t listened to any of them?

Anybody other than me ROTFL that she’s supposedly such a loser but everybody is still fascinated with her?

Put a fork in Huckleberry – he’s done.

platypus on July 16, 2009 at 2:27 AM


DDT on July 16, 2009 at 3:11 AM

I don’t see Ron Paul as a viable national candidate dog catcher.


GrayLoess on July 16, 2009 at 3:42 AM

Or, Governor Palin spends about a year writing/speaking on core conservative issues.

The conservative base of the party coalesces around her.
The squishies have no choice but to come with her.
Conservatism wins.

massrighty on July 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM</blockquot
Perhaps,but the more I look around the GOP, the less I see worth keeping. Steele is a joke, the current “front runners” are retread losers, there’s only a very few REAL conservatives that could be called up and conming stars.
To me,staying GOP is now like investing in an old car with 150K on the odometer. It’s not worth it in the long run.

Jeff from WI on July 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM

Got run

Shelby on July 15, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I was gonna let this lie, but:

Shelby, they make Imodium for that.

Snowed In on July 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

LiquidH2O on July 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Perhaps you shouldn’t have used a business example.

How many startups began from people leaving old, stodgy companies to start their own fast-paced ones? Is AT&T the leader in telecommunications? Is Yahoo the number one place to go for searching? Is Standard Oil still around?

Your assertion depends on leadership changing. And if it doesn’t? …I’ll happily leave the stodgy old Demo-crap wannabe beltway elitists for a New Republican Party!

(Wouldn’t be a hoot to see an independent conservative party start up with the name “New Republican Party”!!!! Which to vote for… the “Republican Party”, or the “NEW Republican Party”! Works for me…)

dominigan on July 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM