Democrats to investigate “secret” program reported by NYT in 2002
posted at 7:02 pm on July 14, 2009 by Karl
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Via The Hill:
With their Speaker behind them, House Democrats are pushing ahead with plans to hold a series of hearings investigating instances in which intelligence officials may have misled members of Congress.
Senior Democratic aides said that a major announcement could come by the end of week, but it was already clear on Monday that House Democrats are seizing on weekend news reports that former Vice President Dick Cheney hid information from Congress.
The New York Times reported on Sunday that the CIA, under the direction of Cheney, developed a secret counterterrorism program and then was directed by the vice president to conceal it from Congress.
The Wall Street Journal first reported that the program was a classified initiative to kill or capture al Qaeda operatives.
Unfortunately for Democratic witch-hunters, their pals at the national security-defying New York Times apparently blew this secret back in December 2002:
The Bush administration has prepared a list of terrorist leaders the Central Intelligence Agency is authorized to kill, if capture is impractical and civilian casualties can be minimized, senior military and intelligence officials said.
The previously undisclosed C.I.A. list includes key Qaeda leaders like Osama bin Laden and his chief deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, as well as other principal figures from Al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist groups, the officials said. The names of about two dozen terrorist leaders have recently been on the lethal-force list, officials said. “It’s the worst of the worst,” an official said.
President Bush has provided written legal authority to the C.I.A. to hunt down and kill the terrorists without seeking further approval each time the agency is about to stage an operation. Some officials said the terrorist list was known as the “high-value target list.” A spokesman for the White House declined to discuss the list or issues involving the use of lethal force against terrorists. A spokesman for the C.I.A. also declined to comment on the list.
Despite the authority given to the agency, Mr. Bush has not waived the executive order banning assassinations, officials said. The presidential authority to kill terrorists defines operatives of Al Qaeda as enemy combatants and thus legitimate targets for lethal force.
Could it be that CIA Director Panetta does not have a good grip on the history of his agency’s post-9/11 efforts? Could it be that his Democratic colleagues have such a knee-jerk hostility to the CIA that they would jump on bad info to attack the CIA and Fmr. Vice-Pres. Cheney as a modified limited defense of Speaker Pelosi’s prior bogus attacks on the CIA regarding briefings on interrogation tactics? Could it be that the geniuses of the NYT forgot they already blew the program?
(Hint: Yes, Yes and Yes.)
(Credit to Andrew Breitbart and Guy P. Benson for the links.)
Update: Here’s Guy’s take at NRO.
Update (AP): Yeah, this was linked in Headlines earlier, but it deserves the wider exposure of the front page for two reasons. One because it shows how disingenuous the Democrats are in trying to manufacture a scandal here to rehabilitate Pelosi and distract from The One’s unstimulated economy. And two because it’s even a bit worse than Karl suggests. Not only is the program old news, but former CIA chief Michael Hayden told NPR today that neither Cheney nor anyone else told him not to brief Congress about it. And two other former intel officials told CNN last night that to the extent Congress was in the dark about it, that was in keeping with standard protocol for clandestine ops:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney is getting a “bum rap” over reports that he ordered the CIA to withhold information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress, two former U.S. intelligence officials told CNN Monday.
According to both officials, any intelligence program of “great sensitivity” is first approved by the White House after a series of meetings. In any such situation, once the administration decides to pursue a covert program, there is discussion on whether Congress needs to be briefed, the officials said…
Both sources said the program that Panetta discussed fell under a presidential finding that broadly authorized covert counterterrorism activities. They said Congress had been briefed on that finding in the fall of 2001, and there was no requirement to brief lawmakers on a program that had not been implemented.
“When it goes operational, then you brief them,” one of the former officials said.
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You mean into a program that 1) never got beyond planning 2) was meant to kill terrorists who were targeting Americans 3) asked for and approved by Congress secretly?
That program?
OH MY GOD! PROSECUTE BOOOOOSH NOW!
Enoxo on July 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM
This kind of thing warms my heart. It means that these numbskulls have nothing. They’re reaching, grabbing, clawing and generally freakin’ out.
It’s a good sign.
keebs on July 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Yes let us prosecute those who would protect us, and lets promote those who would object.
fourdeucer on July 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
This is pathetic.
I certainly hope this noose the democrats are “cleverly” fashioning will ultimately hang themselves.
Hope and change baby…..fuc&^*() BIGTIME.
StockOption on July 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM
I certainly hope they were planning, in secret, all kinds of nasty stuff.
ZenDraken on July 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM
You democrats might just as well wrap a big old bow around the U.S. and give us up to the terrorists.
fourdeucer on July 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Does this mean I am going to get to see more Cheney on my TV soon? I like it when that happens.
myrenovations on July 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Has Obama briefed Congress on whether there is a Stargate program under Cheyenne Mountain?
If not, why not? Should he be impeached for this failure?
malclave on July 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Hey! When the lies you told about the CIA briefings begin to catch up with you; when the vaunted “Stimulus” you passed without reading turns to crap and does nothing; when your Crap & Tax program is stalled in the senate; when your HealthCare bill is going nowhere fast; IT’S TIME TO DISTRACT THE STUPID SHEEPLE ONCE AGAIN!
And this from “the most honest, the most open, the most ethical Congress, evah!” And don’t you forget it!
GarandFan on July 14, 2009 at 7:18 PM
uh,uh,.what about the investigation of Fannie & Freddie!
…and maybe the vetting of hussein?!?!?
Momma always said “Dream big” .
christene on July 14, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Yes, I can see the frothing new pressers now: Pelosi and Harry Cadaver standing stone-faced and solemn before the flashbulbs and microphones to inform a breathless nation that President Bush wanted to kill terrorists.
Bonus points: There are so many newly unemployed that more people will see it on tv and say to themselves, “WTF is wrong with wanting to kill terrorists???”
Bishop on July 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
SoulGlo on July 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM
You can smell the desperation, this is a dumb move and even sensible ‘rats know it.
Bishop on July 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Speaker Pelosi saw nothing, she heard nothing, she knows nothing. She did not even get up on any of the days those briefings were held.
OberfeldwebelSchultz on July 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM
The Liberal Party of Obama,want to manufacture and forment
a new distraction that takes the light of truth,off of Obama
s policies and healthcare up and coming debauckle!
So,here comes the kangeroo circus,CNN wall to wall coverage,
and probably ABC,CBS daily live coverage,and incidently,th
ose media stations wouldn’t even cover a press conference
when Bush was President!
How did Obama put it,he’s not looking back,but to the future!
canopfor on July 14, 2009 at 7:27 PM
As I said in the other thread…
/puts his super secret tinfoil spy hat on… ala spy vs spy…
Within HOURS of the briefing, this was leaked.
Cheney remains silent.
Could this be an OP to find those who leak classified material through the Congress? Is Congress being set up by Cheney and the Lifers in the CIA?
Romeo13 on July 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
I suggest an investigation to uncover anybody in government who is against the idea of hunting down and killing any of the higher level al Qaeda operatives.
Anybody who is against the idea should be removed from office and imprisoned until the war is over.
Star20 on July 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Dear merciful God, when do we get to start charging these demoncrats with treason and sedition???
doriangrey on July 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM
The Obama Distraction Plan!
Create and manufacture outrage,so that,the Liberals can
re-direct the anger that is brewing,from those that voted for Hope/Change and are slowly and bitterly coming to the
realization that Obama lied to his own voters,who voted for
‘CHANGE’,like stopping the war,as an example!!
canopfor on July 14, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Huh? Didn’t know there really was such a thing.
But seriously, it is such an obvious distraction maneuver and unfortunately there is such a vast audience of idiots out there that believe anything Bush/Cheney *must* be bad and evil that it’ll probably work to certain degree. I’d love to see it blow up in their own faces though.
Paradox Drive on July 14, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Yeah, but seriously, what can you expect seven or eight people out of millions to do?
malclave on July 14, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Yes they certainly are.
redwhiteblue on July 14, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Obama, Pelosi and their merry band of morons are going to drive us into sewer. I’m not sure which is the most disgusting, the leftists Democrats or the fools that elected them.
rplat on July 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
San Fran Gran Nan has got her ducks all in a row now. Red Herring in place, the media has been schooled on the whole thing.
She flat out called the CIA liars, got called on it…looked like the partisan liar/bimbo she is….and it’s not going to matter one damned bit.
Feel the Power….
BigWyo on July 14, 2009 at 7:40 PM
OMG!! The government wants to kill the enemy! How dare they! Bin Laden should be given a nice, cozy Snuggie while curled up in a La-Z-Boy recliner holding a puppy! That will teach those terrorists a thing or two!
It’s really depressing how stupid half of the country is.
Special K on July 14, 2009 at 7:45 PM
May we please have an official HA poll on this? Seriously. I’m leaning towards a vote for the fools.
redwhiteblue on July 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Alzheimer’s has struck Pelosi early in life, or maybe she was blinded by the light from the genie asking her to save the planet.
Will be interesting to see how well this manufactured “crisis” plays. As another poster said, they are out of ammo and hoping the sheeple will not remember.
Another reason could be they are so damned inept they just don’t know much about history and the story sounds so good and real they didn’t do any background. Sheer stupidity or the staff work of ideologues who don’t talk with anyone not in their immediate circle and are therefore massively ignorant of much outside that bubble.
“Best and brightest” hubris is about to bite the country in the hind end once again. McNamara couldn’t face it so he left.
Bumpy ride ahead.
Harry Schell on July 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Can you believe the balls on these freaks? Seriously. They are the most dishonest, treacherous pack of legislative jackals this country has ever seen, and they have the gall to call out the people who kept us safe. My God.
marklmail on July 14, 2009 at 7:57 PM
All socialists, since they have a 100 % failure rate, need distractions such as mini-wars or highly publicized public trials of “enemies of the state” (read political rivals.In the case of Dick Cheney it not only distrasts the public from failed bailouts, double digit unemployment, dollar devaluation, trillion dollar debt, industry collapses and diminution of America’s power but it also gets Nancy Pelosi off the hook for her trumped-up lies about the CIA. But these persecutions will be more than mere distractions and will enter into the realm of scapegoats. “If it weren’t for Bush, Cheney,Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, etc. etc. our programs would have worked. These traitors to our glorious cause are the enemies of the people.”
The day will come when the United States, in addition to money, will run out of wheat and corn much as the Ukraine did in the days of the Soviet Union. Growing of these staples will simply become too burdensome and costly- so why would any idiot take the responsibility since the profit incentives have been killed? Then we will see food riots and more trials to punish “traitors”.
MaiDee on July 14, 2009 at 7:59 PM
When is this frigging administration going to do something secretive to protect us instead of all the secretive frigging undermining of the USA.
F Obambi and the F’ing democrats
MCW on July 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Aren’t these the same people who for 8 years shrieked, “Where’s bin Laden?”?
Urban Infidel on July 14, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Aside from the aforementioned comments on the lunacy of the left – here is the real kicker. The bill is being suspended in debate, whereas Obama himself, through the WH has stated he would veto the very bill.
Caught up yet to the crazy? No? Then write both Feingold (D) and Hoekstra (R) or better yet, demand their impeachment.
Feingold is a moron and Hoekstra is a friggin tool. Sure, go ahead with an investigation that you think is useless.
Then gtfo of elected office.
Odie1941 on July 14, 2009 at 8:10 PM
They better sit there and literally laugh at these jokers. I want everyone on the stand to just laugh at each question, and state that was discussed by the NYT in 2002, don’t you read?
Accuse them of first reading the briefings, then if they don’t get it, pick up the NYT and read what congress should already know.
If the Republicans go weenie on this, I will really be ticked.
They should begin tomorrow ridiculing this kangaroo court…in fact, they should bring in a kangaroo, make a circus. Kangaroos, jugglers, clowns, and say this is what the dems want, a circus, this is what they get.
right2bright on July 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM
One question for the Libs:
When was the last time you out-smarted Cheney?
ericdijon on July 14, 2009 at 8:22 PM
You mean Democrat with-hunters. Not Democratic, Democrat.
tommylotto on July 14, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Enoxo on July 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM
EXACTLY!
txag92 on July 14, 2009 at 8:24 PM
For our nations long term good we need a (insert enemy of America) nuke to take out Washington DC ASAP with a confirmation that all aboard have been confirmed lost.
Kill’m all, the sooner the better!
dmann on July 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM
These people are so incompetent. And I am not talking about Cheney either. I swear, Nancy Pelosi has got to be the most pathetic Speaker ever.
Terrye on July 14, 2009 at 8:31 PM
In what I’m sure is unrelated news reported earlier here and elsewhere, Barack Obama is slipping in a recent cBS poll front-loaded with a Democrat-heavy sample.
But only a cynic would think there is any connection here.
PS – Obama just made a celebrity appearance to throw out the first pitch for the All Star game. He throws like a girl.
No offense to the ladies :-)
Good Lt on July 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM
I’m sure that all Americans are shocked, Shocked!, to learn that the CIA was looking into eliminating top Al Queda leaders, specially in the wake of 9/11. I mean, who would ever dream of such a thing…
and breathlessly they chant
BUT CHENEY KEPT IT FROM US!1!!1!eleventy…
Sure, he kept it secret from everybody; except, you know, those blabbermouths at the NYTimes; the paper where liberal Democrats went, daily, to get their talking points straight in the days before Kos’ “townhouse” cabal or “journo-list”…
Anyone who stops for just a moment and thinks will realize that this is simply another Democratic vehicle for distraction and obfuscation…
Speaker under fire for being caught lying? Check…
The previously hailed economic miracle that is the spendulus actually a bust? Check…
“Wow guys”, the Democrats say to themselves, “What are we going to do?”
“I know, let’s do what’s worked for the last 8 years; find a way to put Darth Cheney and eeeeeevolll Booooosh! back in the crosshairs and bail out Pelosi at the same time!”
“After all, we all know the media will play along with our charade…”
Well the Democrats better tread lightly on this. I mean, O!&Co hasen’t exactly enjoyed a string of foreign policy successes. And, the left are already seen by the public as weak on national security, do they really want to dig the hole deeper? Not to mention, the entire premise being bogus in that a program doesn’t have to be cleared wit Congress until it, you know, actually becomes operational. Add this Pelosi’s already low, and falling, public approval and that the CIA doesn’t usually roll over when under assault by preening politicians…
Seems to me like a recipe for political disaster…
I guess I’d better stock up on popcorn!
Nice pull Karl, and an excellent post as usual…
RocketmanBob on July 14, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Bread and circuses.
Woooooo Weeeeee!
*****shakes head in disgust*****
hillbillyjim on July 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM
We should also have an investigation into rumors that FDR and Truman ordered American forces to kill German and Japanese forces. I’m just sayin’….
Star20 on July 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Yep, it’s an intelligence agency vs. an intelligence vacancy.
Jim Treacher on July 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM
They should prosecute those who did not prosecute this rational program.
For failing to defend us.
profitsbeard on July 14, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Hey NYT:
WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE???
byteshredder on July 14, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Most ethical Congress EVAH.
BallisticBob on July 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Scum of the Earth… The Democrats!!!
Lying fools… The Democrats!!!
Blind hatred… The Democrats!!!
Ignorant elitists… The Democrats!!!
Unelectable after 2009… The Democrats!!!
Griz on July 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM
This would be really funny if these guys didn’t have the run of the country. I would love to see them persue this; put their money where their mouths are. Let ‘em preen and posture in front of the whole world. Let everyone know what it’s like to be the political victim of being on the wrong side of an issue. 2010 can’t get here fast enough.
jakabok_botch on July 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM
What a bunch of arrogant, adolescent(and addled!)-minded, egotistical, Leninwannabe jerks.
There…I feel better.
That’s fine. Give them another reason for Dick Cheney to go out there and expose them for what they really are.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 14, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Maybe Katie Couric should ask Nancy Pelosi which newspapers she reads ’cause apparently she ain’t reading the NYT.
bitsy on July 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Here we go again, another distraction. Lets try to focus on current matters and the economy rather than finger pointing and making crap up. It is time we had a leader, not a spineless wonder that is supposed to lead, but is a follower of his party. Lets move forward.
workingforpigs on July 15, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Spies in our midst.
Johan Klaus on July 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM
I figure the Dems would have learned the first time around. I forget which leader of the CIA said it but “We don’t brief the congress on plans we don’t intend to go through with”
Hence they briefed on giving baths but didn’t brief on killing Bin-Laden.
Lets hope they call Cheney up to speak, I bet he makes 4-7 Dems cry when he makes them look like morons.
Rbastid on July 15, 2009 at 1:48 AM
You know… if congress is so intent on hearing about what the CIA decided not to do… perhaps the agency should send someone down on a regular basis to brief congress on the 2335 colors they decided not to paint the halls, the 86 brands of rugs they decided not to purchase for offices, and several million other purchases and ideas they decided not to follow through on.
I’m guessing congress might eventually decide all that complete briefing of what they aren’t doing… but be cutting into the time they normally devote to not reading of the bills they pass at break neck speed.;-)
Cassandros
Cassandros on July 15, 2009 at 3:54 AM
And we can all count on the MSM to tell the world what fools the Dems made of themselves. I can just hear the jokes from Letterman now. (Crickets in the distance)
IlikedAUH2O on July 15, 2009 at 4:49 AM
They have nothing to do now that The One spent the next two generation’s money. They can’t just go shopping anymore. Bummer.
IlikedAUH2O on July 15, 2009 at 4:55 AM
You know, after the way the release of the ‘torture memos’ turned out for them, you’d think the Democrats would been leery of starting a fight with Dick Cheney. Especially when it seems there is enough ammunition for him to fire back at them effectively once again. I can understand the tactic of trying to misdirect the public’s attention from a mess you are creating, but directing it towards another disaster that will be on your own head probably isn’t the textbook way to do it.
Tonus on July 15, 2009 at 8:01 AM
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