AP: You know who’s looking like a GOP frontrunner right now? Mike Huckabee

posted at 8:26 pm on July 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

What color is the sky in your world, AP?

Huckabee’s value as a presidential candidate, however, has gotten a boost primarily from the downfall of others within the Republican Party. Admissions of affairs by Nevada Sen. John Ensign and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, both considered at one time potential GOP contenders, have helped Huckabee.

In other words, the Baptist minister with a covenant marriage is starting look a lot better by comparison.

Huckabee may also get some help from Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s surprise announcement that she’ll step down as governor, midway through her first term, later this month. It’s unclear whether the former Republican vice presidential nominee’s announcement is a prelude to a 2012 bid, or an exit from politics entirely.

Huckabee says he’s still a fan of Palin, but questioned the Alaska governor’s move.

“Well, it’s a risky strategy, and nobody knows whether it’s going to pay off or not,” Huckabee said on “Fox News Sunday” earlier this month. “And even if she did get out, primarily because of a feeling of being chased, that’s not going to stop if she continues in politics. The only way that stops is for her to completely exit the stage and the spotlight.”

I like to goof with you guys about him being the nominee because I know it (inexplicably) torments you, but seriously: Assuming Romney runs, which is a near certainty, give me a scenario in which Huck tops him for the nomination. He’ll have his strongholds — Iowa, South Carolina, plenty of other southern states — but Romney will have the coasts, the northeast, lots of the midwest, most of the party bigwigs, all of talk radio, and a huge war chest on his side. He’ll also be seen as the “economy” candidate while Huck is pigeonholed as the social con. And needless to say, if Palin runs and pulls evangelicals away from him, Huck will be lucky to win a single primary. So I repeat the question. How does Huck win the nomination?

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she is the only one that can undress the emperor of his media clothes

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Let’s see what their unemployment rate is like by 2012.

Jim Treacher on July 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Their unemployment rates could near 20% and they’d still vote entirely by image.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

My husband dreams of going to Australia. He was roped in by the whole Crocodile Hunter thing. He was devasted when Steve died. He would love to tour the country.

TXMomof3 on July 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Unfortunately Kevin Rudd is doing a good job at ruining it. He is proposing something similar to cap and trade and spending billions and billions of dollars in stimulus packages like Obama. Economic growth is grinding to a halt and unemployment is rising.

Crux Australis on July 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Hardly. He’s a squishy enough Republican that they might consider him. Also, remember that he was the Governor of Massachusetts. He’s got superficial gravitas to rival Obama.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

He’s a GOP Ayatollah and electing him won’t get you a squat of difference from Obama.

Secondly – he hasn’t received the full-on press treatment that he WILL get once he’s the nominee – and it isn’t going to be pretty. His Mormon faith is really going to fuel the ink. It’s pretty naive to believe that by the time the election comes that Mitt won’t have been painted as an idiot the same as Palin has been by the press.

The difference is – we have some time invested in Palin and a track record of proving the press is fanatical about her. We won’t have that with Mitt.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

I was wrong you are right, it was the “L” that mixed me up, oops.

goat on July 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Let’s see what their unemployment rate is like by 2012.

Jim Treacher on July 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Their unemployment rates could near 20% and they’d still vote entirely by image.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Yeah, but lacking a national campaign run by Sarah Palin and centered Palin, we can’t really say that the Tina Fey image is going to be more enduring than Romney’s Plastic Man one or Huckabee’s storefront preacher one.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM

* centered on Palin

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM

LOL…do you really see Romney winning even Massachusetts straight up against Obama? I don’t care if it’s 30% unemployment. He might get New Hampshire like W. did.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Depends, sadly, on the image he cultivates. If he can properly paint Obama as a naive kid who’s screwed up, and come across as the stalwart that Reagan was, he can offer a hell of a campaign.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

That depends if you’re one of the “Anybody But Obama” group.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I belive Palin would fit well into that description Sir. She is “anybody but Obama”.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Depends, sadly, on the image he cultivates. If he can properly paint Obama as a naive kid who’s screwed up, and come across as the stalwart that Reagan was, he can offer a hell of a campaign.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

… and … I’m sure the press will help him with that.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM

The world is going to end in 2012. And I’m going to be in Hong Kong with my sweetheart Emily Chan of CNBC World.

ThackerAgency on July 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM

all female ticket

Palin/Cheney

Trumps

Messiah/Hairplugs

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM

He’s a GOP Ayatollah and electing him won’t get you a squat of difference from Obama.

Secondly – he hasn’t received the full-on press treatment that he WILL get once he’s the nominee – and it isn’t going to be pretty. His Mormon faith is really going to fuel the ink. It’s pretty naive to believe that by the time the election comes that Mitt won’t have been painted as an idiot the same as Palin has been by the press.

The difference is – we have some time invested in Palin and a track record of proving the press is fanatical about her. We won’t have that with Mitt.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

If there isn’t someone who can inspire some excitement on the GOP ticket, Obama wins big. Going on anti-Obama sentiment alone just ain’t going to get it.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Secondly – he hasn’t received the full-on press treatment that he WILL get once he’s the nominee – and it isn’t going to be pretty. His Mormon faith is really going to fuel the ink. It’s pretty naive to believe that by the time the election comes that Mitt won’t have been painted as an idiot the same as Palin has been by the press.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Have you considered the possibility that the public will dismiss that link of attack in the same way they dismissed Jeremiah Wright and the email hoax about Obama being a Muslim?

Voters are fickle. If things stay as bad as they are, or get worse, they’ll be immune to ploys from 2008.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Have you considered the possibility that the public will dismiss that link of attack in the same way they dismissed Jeremiah Wright and the email hoax about Obama being a Muslim?

Voters are fickle. If things stay as bad as they are, or get worse, they’ll be immune to ploys from 2008.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Nooooooo. It wasn’t the public who dismissed Wright. It was the media. They won’t be quite so easy on Romney.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:34 PM

It amazes me that so many people are so gung-ho for the electrifying, charismatic Mitt (yawn) Romney.

The Living Mannequin.

Huckabee has found his natural level, as a talk-show host.

It’s going to be Palin. Y’all need to just start accepting it now.

tsj017 on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Have you considered the possibility that the public will dismiss that link of attack in the same way they dismissed Jeremiah Wright and the email hoax about Obama being a Muslim?

Voters are fickle. If things stay as bad as they are, or get worse, they’ll be immune to ploys from 2008.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Uhm no … quite frankly I haven’t considered that MC … I think that’s unrealistic. The press was behind Obama – and covered up the Wright issues, and the Ayers issues, and what he did at Columbia University, and … basically anything derogatory about the guy.

You’re now saying the press will give that same treatment to a Republican?

Why … does that give me a chuckle?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM

How about a ticket of Palin/Kelly.

No?

then Huckabee and Palin? try Megyn Kelly as SOS and then we take the rest of the blonds on Fox and have the armorer hand out the automatic rifles and ammunition and then we take them on the training mission through the swamps and dessert and sand and hills and exhausting disgusting misery that is what we MUST do to save our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know then they will have won our respect. Then will you for God’s sake vote for the right party?? HELP make us win one way or another…. we need to do something …. That is my cry if you have ever watched my cry… We can’t sit and listen to Rush and Mrk Levin and Hewitt and Hannity and on and on and on… we need to make the world change….. LOOK what they are doing in IRAN can we meet up somewhere all 25 million of us ???????????????? How about trying to do so in the comfort of the desert??? NO, then you aren’t interested in saving your country. We must meet soon and someone must take control and be in charge. I will not and cannot….. this is highninside saying …. 10/4

highninside on July 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

That depends if you’re one of the “Anybody But Obama” group.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I was in the “Anybody But Clinton” group in 1996, voting for the ticket headed by the electrifying Bob Dole. Didn’t turn out so well.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

It amazes me that so many people are so gung-ho for the electrifying, charismatic Mitt (yawn) Romney.

The Living Mannequin.

Huckabee has found his natural level, as a talk-show host.

It’s going to be Palin. Y’all need to just start accepting it now.

tsj017 on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

I wonder if people who make such comments actually believe what they say, or do it out of the hope that if they keep repeating it there might be a chance for their wishes to come true.

Hollowpoint on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Nooooooo. It wasn’t the public who dismissed Wright. It was the media. They won’t be quite so easy on Romney.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Obama said he was his crazy uncle, then shooed him off altogether. If Romney distances himself in a similar fashion, the issue will be dead with voters, particularly if unemployment is in double digits.

Imagine, if you will, that Romney starts touting “change”.

Frankly, anybody who parlays that zinger properly could bury Obama if things continue as they are.

You’re now saying the press will give that same treatment to a Republican?

Why … does that give me a chuckle?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM

The press didn’t stop Bush being elected twice. You give them far too much credit. In addition, the love affair twixt Obama and the press is already on the downhill.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

the press will never cover for a republican the way they covered up all the shit in obama’s dirty background.

Not even if the republican was jesus christ.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

It’s going to be Palin. Y’all need to just start accepting it now.

tsj017 on July 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Let’s stop a moment – it doesn’t have to be Palin. But IT DOES HAVE TO BE SOMEONE THE BASE REALLY WANTS.

If the GOP Ayatollahs try to steer the base to one of their boys by discrediting Palin (as they have been) – they are going to find their “boy” going down in flames to Sarah Palin on a third party ticket – or a write-in campaign from the grassroots.

It’s time for the Ayatollahs to STFU and listen to us. If they don’t do that – they’re screwed.

And it looks like they are so stupid – they just might be screwed because I don’t see John Cornyn or Mitch McConnel or any of the other Ayatollahs “getting it”.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

I was in the “Anybody But Clinton” group in 1996, voting for the ticket headed by the electrifying Bob Dole. Didn’t turn out so well.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Bingo.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Huckabee wins the nomination because he appeals to all voters. His show has drawn viewers to him who may not have voted for him in the primaries. They like his commonsense approach. They like that he can talk to democrats, liberals, progressives without having a screaming match.

Here is a quote from liberal author Gregory Bean:

Ex-Gov. and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee’s talk show on Fox. Have you seen that thing? It’s so bizarre it’s incredibly entertaining. Watching Huckabee interview Dan Rather was great television, if you could get past the scary feeling that you’d dropped through a cosmic worm hole and turned up in a parallel universe. And there’s no better place to see your favorite old-time musicians. Where else would you see Neil Sedaka perform these days? Or hear the band Yes performing “Owner of a Lonely Heart?” You won’t see that on “Good Morning America.”

Fact is, I’ve become very fond of Huckabee since the presidential primary. He’s funny, and earnest, and he talks about conservative politics and values in ways that make sense. If the GOP is really looking for future leaders who can draw voters from middle-of-the-road America, they ought to be thinking about Mike Huckabee. The man is so likeable that the writer of an article about him in Esquire said that “he’s so damn folksy and self-deprecating that the liberal media (i.e., me) just want to hug him.” Someone like that is a force to be reckoned with.

Thats how Huckabee wins. Romney lacks the likeability factor. Huckabee’s commonsense approach to politics will win the voters over.

texasconserv on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Imagine, if you will, that Romney starts touting “change”.
Frankly, anybody who parlays that zinger properly could bury Obama if things continue as they are.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

All any candidate has to do is get a little coin purse with some change in it and every time they say change pull it out and shake it and say “thats about all that left after the tax increases, job losses and out of control spending.”

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Obama said he was his crazy uncle, then shooed him off altogether.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Which the media allowed him to do. That’s the point.

Romney was considered the biggest threat to whatever Democrat last election cycle. They beat the Mormonism “is America ready for a Mormon president?” thing like a friggin’ drum. Romney lost.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Megyn Kelly / Julie Banderas 2012.

You heard it here first.

Hollowpoint on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

The press didn’t stop Bush being elected twice. You give them far too much credit. In addition, the love affair twixt Obama and the press is already on the downhill.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

A lot of your theory depends on Obama being in the abyss come 2012 – and I think you’re spot on in thinking that.

But … if that is indeed the case – then Palin will be more a viable candidate – or at the very least as viable as Mitt – and without doubt more charismatic.

You seem to be assuming that we Conservatives will vote for Mitt after the Ayatollah’s have destroyed Palin. I would think again. I think the Ayatollah’s had better start preparing the New England and California camps for a conservative that appeals to the base. Have them compromise for a change – it’s their turn. We compromised with McCain and that … got us …

Where?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Elections are not won by voting against someone, they are won by having someone people want to vote for.

Anybody but…just doesn’t work.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Given that, the only hope is that O is so bad that it makes it easier to beat him with a candidate who is not strong all-round.

The good thing about Sarah is that we KNOW she’ll at least try to govern as a conservative/libertarian type. The others won’t as the pressure forces them to go left.

Sapwolf on July 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Exactly what I’ve been thinking, but remember that could easily include a Democrat…Hillary comes to mind. I’m thinking that the tendency with American voters more and more is to look for the government for solutions. They don’t want to hear this self-reliance stuff and depending upon business people for jobs. They want their safety nets and they want them legislated in granite. Where Uncle Sam gets the money is of no concern to them as long as he gets it and it doesn’t come from them.

Therefore, moderate Democrats and RINOs would be more to their liking.

But we have a few more years to gather ‘global warming’ data, millions more jobs to lose, inflation, even more spending and programs that even those of us who keep up with this stuff can’t (or don’t want to) imagine, what’s left of the Axis of Evil to do God knows what, and the always looming terror attack…so it’s just too early to tell yet.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Romney lost.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Romney lost the primary, not the election. Stack him up against a president presiding over the deepest recession in decades, and you’ve got a contender.

But … if that is indeed the case – then Palin will be more a viable candidate – or at the very least as viable as Mitt – and without doubt more charismatic.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Mitt has a meatier resume as a businessman. Americans are going to want a CEO as president if things are still bad, and it’s unlikely that we’ll see a woman as more management material than a man. Yep, America is still sexist.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Romney is not a contender for President until he occupies the VPO slot first. He needs to be bridesmaided in first. only way.

Huckabee…hahahaha…no. Elmer fudd + buggs bunny’s love child has no charisma and only the whackadoodles will make it to the polls to vote for him. He is too religious and moves the whole image of the GOP back to bible thumpin good old boys again…i dont care how progressive he claims to be.

They will play the preacher thing to death and kill his run.

Huckabee doesn’t have a Doleballs chance in heck.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Huckabee wins the nomination because he appeals to all voters. His show has drawn viewers to him who may not have voted for him in the primaries. They like his commonsense approach. They like that he can talk to democrats, liberals, progressives without having a screaming match.
texasconserv on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Of course he can talk to Democrats, liberals/progressives easily. He’s not far removed from them ideologically.

Hollowpoint on July 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM

If the GOP is really looking for future leaders who can draw voters from middle-of-the-road America, they ought to be thinking about Mike Huckabee. The man is so likeable that the writer of an article about him in Esquire said that “he’s so damn folksy and self-deprecating that the liberal media (i.e., me) just want to hug him.” Someone like that is a force to be reckoned with.

texasconserv on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Uh, beware liberals telling conservatives which conservative candidates will win. That’s like me telling Democrats, “Look. If you want to reach out to fence-sitters and ensure Democrat victory, do the smart thing and run Barney Frank for president.”

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Ok, Huck, same standards I set for the rest of the pack…deeds. Not yesterday. Today, tomorrow, next week. Keep the pretty words. Roll up your sleeves or your campaign mailers are wasted money.

Limerick on July 14, 2009 at 10:49 PM

you need a radical groudswell grassroots movement to beat obama…you need an emotional candidate…one that the people who support him/her love and adore.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 10:50 PM

How does Huck win the nomination?

First off, I don’t think Huckabee will be losing any ground support in 2012 compared to 2008. He sold himself to a lot of people. He will only gain more support, but the question is how much. I imagine he could gain strong prominent endorsements next time around if he continues on his current course and is successful with his HucPAC in 2010. I even wouldn’t be shocked to see Palin back him under certain circumstances and then it would be game over. I would dispute that Romney has a lock on all that you have mentioned – particularly “all of talk radio” and the midwest. Romney does have his supporters and his money but as we saw last time around it didn’t help him.

doctor horton on July 14, 2009 at 10:50 PM

it’s their turn. We compromised with McCain and that … got us …

Where?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

That’s a laugh if I ever read one. McCain picked Palin because he knew the self professed conservatives were pouting about his nomination and not helping with support or cash. In tryng to keep that lukewarm support he sacrificed the independents who laughed at Palin and voted Obama.
Palin needs to earn it not be the chosen one as her fans would have everyone believe. If Palin gets the nomination Obama will waltz away with 40+ states in an embarassing landslide.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Mitt has a meatier resume as a businessman. Americans are going to want a CEO as president if things are still bad, and it’s unlikely that we’ll see a woman as more management material than a man. Yep, America is still sexist.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM

I just think you’re ignoring history. Clinton beat Bush because Bush was cardboard. Bush Jr. beat Gore and Karry because they are the epitome of cardboard. Obama beat McCain because he’s cardboard.

And you think running a cardboard candidate with business credentials is going to take down Obama?

What business credentials did Reagan have – other than heading up a Union???

Americans don’t give a squat for business credentials – nor should they. They need an honest guy in there who has good people surrounding him. That was the Reagan formula.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

If Huckabee is the candidate, conservatism is doomed. And screw the base already. The conservatives base is like the liberal base…”fringe” To hell with that. By all rights a decent candidate with debating skills and a solid centrist record should have beaten Obama. America wants a middle of the road government not some crazy base from either side. Obama won American Idol presidential style, nothing more. Put Palin up against him she loses, put Huckabee up against him he loses, Romney…? Who ever it is needs to step to the fore now and start leading. I like Pawlenty and Jindal but they are never heard from and conservatism needs a vocal leader more than ever.

dartagnansblade on July 14, 2009 at 10:52 PM

I have never understood where the hatred for Huckabee sprang from. Maybe it’s a Southern thing, but really struck a chord with my family. We voted for him in the primary. My husband was on the Fred team, but it didn’t seem like he wanted the job. None of us were for McCain until he brought Sarah on board.

TXMomof3 on July 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I live in Arkansas, so my dislike for him comes from having firsthand experience with him. Not for nothing many of the people who oppose him are also Arkansans. I can only suggest you review his record to understand why. In a nutshell for me it amounts to this:

1. Too much taxing and spending
2. Too much meddling in the private affairs of Arkansans (measuring BMI of school children just for starters)
3. Too many ethics problems
4. Too much compassion for criminals
5. Too much campaigning, not enough governing

I also find he comes off as a huge phony. Maybe that’s unfounded, but I think I’m a pretty good judge of character. Huck is, as y’all say in Texas, all hat and no cattle. ;) I think Romney is a squish, but I’d vote for him before I’d vote for Huckster. I wouldn’t trust him any further than I could throw him. Just my $.02

I will never vote for Obama and I will never vote for Huckabee. If those two are what await me in the future, please forward all my mail to me at the Bondi Beach.

bayview on July 14, 2009 at 9:31 PM

That’s pretty much my position as well.

NoLeftTurn on July 14, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Romney lost.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Romney lost the primary, not the election. Stack him up against a president presiding over the deepest recession in decades…

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM

…and who has a fanatical corps of followers and an awesome money machine, and you’ve got the makings of Mondale II.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Palin needs to earn it not be the chosen one as her fans would have everyone believe. If Palin gets the nomination Obama will waltz away with 40+ states in an embarassing landslide.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

I agree … Palin needs to earn it. But you’re wrong about her losing to Obama.

And if the Ayatollahs keep crapping on Palin – I don’t care if they run Jesus Christ against Obama the Conservatives will sit home.

And … how do you know this … source please …

That’s a laugh if I ever read one. McCain picked Palin because he knew the self professed conservatives were pouting about his nomination and not helping with support or cash. In tryng to keep that lukewarm support he sacrificed the independents who laughed at Palin and voted Obama.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM

That’s a laugh if I ever read one. McCain picked Palin because he knew the self professed conservatives were pouting about his nomination and not helping with support or cash. In tryng to keep that lukewarm support he sacrificed the independents who laughed at Palin and voted Obama.
Palin needs to earn it not be the chosen one as her fans would have everyone believe. If Palin gets the nomination Obama will waltz away with 40+ states in an embarassing landslide.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

OK, so the obvious winning choice would have been to go for the independents instead of the conservative base. An all-squishy ticket. I would LOVE to see that debacle.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

And if the Ayatollahs keep crapping on Palin – I don’t care if they run Jesus Christ against Obama the Conservatives will sit home.HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM

So to not blindly support Palin makes one an Ayatollah. Go figure. I kind of hope she does go third party and derail the election to Obama. At least the embarassing lack of votes she would generate (with a big zero in electoral votes) would show the empress really had no clothes all along — just a bunch of fans who couldn’t be objective.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

dude… do you keep a pic of her in your wallet?

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM

And if the Ayatollahs keep crapping on Palin – I don’t care if they run Jesus Christ against Obama the Conservatives will sit home.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Doesn’t matter. Bradky says the GOP can win just fine without you.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:55 PM

dude… do you keep a pic of her in your wallet?

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Nope. Why?

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM

I just think you’re ignoring history. Clinton beat Bush because Bush was cardboard. Bush Jr. beat Gore and Karry because they are the epitome of cardboard. Obama beat McCain because he’s cardboard.

And you think running a cardboard candidate with business credentials is going to take down Obama?

I think you’re being rather obtuse to describe Romney as being nearly as cardboard as Kerry or Gore. Kerry spent his campaign waving his purple hearts around, and Gore simply kept extolling Clintonian rhetoric, which the country was sick of.

Is Romney stiff? Of course. However, Obama is becoming that way as time is going on, if his YouTube addresses are any indication of his demeanor.

What business credentials did Reagan have – other than heading up a Union???

Americans don’t give a squat for business credentials – nor should they. They need an honest guy in there who has good people surrounding him. That was the Reagan formula.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Reagan had been the voice of the new conservative movement throughout the sixties and seventies. He didn’t need anything else. We don’t have one of those voices today, and no, Palin has not been singing the praises of conservatism for two decades.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

So to not blindly support Palin makes one an Ayatollah. Go figure. I kind of hope she does go third party and derail the election to Obama. At least the embarassing lack of votes she would generate (with a big zero in electoral votes) would show the empress really had no clothes all along — just a bunch of fans who couldn’t be objective.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

You are delusional if you think Palin would come in thrid to whatever crappy candidate the Grand old old old party boys ran if she ran on a third party ticket.

Really you are.

Are you a Peggy noonan Or Mehgan McCain sock puppet?

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM

So to not blindly support Palin makes one an Ayatollah. Go figure. I kind of hope she does go third party and derail the election to Obama. At least the embarassing lack of votes she would generate (with a big zero in electoral votes) would show the empress really had no clothes all along — just a bunch of fans who couldn’t be objective.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

I’m less of a Palin fan than you are a Palin detractor – and you seem to be irrational in your hatred of her.

All we “Palinistas” want is for the Ayatollahs to say this …

“Sarah Palin is an awesome Republican – she’d be an awesome President. We’re going to use her to rebuild the party because she’s got talent, she smart, and she has charisma. We’re not endorsing her yet – if she want’s to be President – she can run and make her case her case to Republican voters – and if they choose her – we’ll be excited about that and support her with everything we have.”

What’s so hard about saying that? What’s wrong with saying that? Why can’t they bring themselves to say that?

See … that’s the problem right there. They want to dictate to the base that Palin is off limits as a candidate.

Hmmmm … that may be the way it works in Iran (and that’s why I call them the Ayatollahs) … but that’s NOT the way it works here.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Is Romney stiff? Of course. However, Obama is becoming that way as time is going on, if his YouTube addresses are any indication of his demeanor.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

But Obama can still turn on that fake-black-preacher oratory. Romney won’t be able to match him at all. And yeah, I’d say Romney is pretty bland.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Reagan had been the voice of the new conservative movement throughout the sixties and seventies. He didn’t need anything else. We don’t have one of those voices today, and no, Palin has not been singing the praises of conservatism for two decades.

MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Who has? Don’t say Mitt – his liberal positions aren’t 20 years in the past yet.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

We don’t have one of those voices today, and no, Palin has not been singing the praises of conservatism for two decades

But she did stay overnight at a Holiday Inn Express…. administer the oath!

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Clinton did not beat bush.

Perot took nearly 20% of popular vote mostly from the bush voters – the fiscally conservative moderates – allowing Mr Suck my Cigar to eek into the presidency with around 38% of the vote. Not even a plurality.

ANy one who claims Clinton BEAT bush and gives no credit to Perot needs to stop wearing blue dresses.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Palin people are attacking Huckabee

Battle of the Politicians who have no accomplishments.

PrezHussein on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

What’s so hard about saying that? What’s wrong with saying that? Why can’t they bring themselves to say that?

How about the Paliniacs saying they support the party first and quit trying to shove their choice down everyone’s throats with the threat of staying home if they don’t get their way. Acting and talking like petulant children — if that’s your style have at it but from outside looking in you aren’t persuading people to support Palin, rather you are pushing them away.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I think business experience could be a valuable trait in a candidate, but in this kind of economic climate, I’d be more inclined to trust someone with small business experience than another corporate suit. The latter, as a group, have lost significant credibility with a lot of Americans. Someone like Palin, who has actually run a small business would, I think, have a lot more of a common sense approach to economics than these pedigreed CEOs have. And after four years of the insanity known as Obamanomics, a healthy dose of common sense will be in order.

NoLeftTurn on July 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Palin people are attacking Huckabee

Battle of the Politicians who have no accomplishments.

PrezHussein on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

An O-bot has no room to talk.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM

You are delusional if you think Palin would come in thrid to whatever crappy candidate the Grand old old old party boys ran if she ran on a third party ticket.

Really you are.

Are you a Peggy noonan Or Mehgan McCain sock puppet?

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Looks like someone will be getting their first chance to vote for president in a couple of years. Quick name one third party candidate that got more than 5 electoral votes…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Huckabee is the one potential GOP candidate I will not vote for under just about any imaginable circumstance.

Sorry, but there’s a fundamental difference between Palin and Huckabee – whatever their personal beliefs, Palin doesn’t wear hers on her sleeve when she goes into the office.

Huckabee smells like George W Bush cranked up to 11.

JEM on July 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM

How about the Paliniacs saying they support the party first and quit trying to shove their choice down everyone’s throats with the threat of staying home if they don’t get their way. Acting and talking like petulant children — if that’s your style have at it but from outside looking in you aren’t persuading people to support Palin, rather you are pushing them away.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM

So, the answert to our petulant support of Palin is to stalk away like a petulant child? Hey, we’ve had to swallow squishy candidates.

Putting the party first, my ass. Dem Lite is sure gonna be a winner!

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Perot took nearly 20% of popular vote mostly from the bush voters – the fiscally conservative moderates – allowing Mr Suck my Cigar to eek into the presidency with around 38% of the vote. Not even a plurality.

ANy one who claims Clinton BEAT bush and gives no credit to Perot needs to stop wearing blue dresses.

BillaryMcBush on July 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Clinton took 43 percent of the vote.

You are of course – guessing that most of the Perot vote came from people who would have supported Bush.

But then again – you’re assuming the sweating masses who voted for Perot would have taken the effort to go to the polls and vote instead for Bush if Perot hadn’t been in the race. That’s an assumption – if you have facts and figures on that – I’m all ears and waiting for you to produce them.

The fact is third party candidates draw from both sides – and they also inspire folks to go to the polls who would not have gone to vote if given only two choices.

But I do stand corrected. Clinton didn’t beat Bush. Clinton beat Bush and Perot.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Putting the party first, my ass. Dem Lite is sure gonna be a winner!

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

thanks for illustrating the point nicely. Did you stamp your feet while typing that? But credit to you for admitting that you are petulant in your support.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Putting the party first, my ass. Dem Lite is sure gonna be a winner!

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

thanks for illustrating the point nicely. Did you stamp your feet while typing that? But credit to you for admitting that you are petulant in your support.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Hmmm. Without all us petulant types, I wonder what your winning strategy is going to be…

Bradky for RNC chair. ROFL

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Bradky, you’re pissing in the wind brotha. the Cult of Palin is strong in these parts. She is a vacuous populist IMHO…the empress has no clothes. Romney has a legit chance to win in 2012 if the fundamentalist wing of the GOP can get over themselves.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

How about the Paliniacs saying they support the party first and quit trying to shove their choice down everyone’s throats with the threat of staying home if they don’t get their way. Acting and talking like petulant children — if that’s your style have at it but from outside looking in you aren’t persuading people to support Palin, rather you are pushing them away.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Who’s talking like petulant children? You like Mitt – nominate him. You like the Ayatollahs … go with them. My vote is my vote and I’m not beholden to you. I’ll vote for whom I please.

I did the compromise thing last election and voted McCain. Never again … your turn to compromise. Or enjoy the Socialism. I don’t care really – I can sit at home and wait for the revolution to go “hot” – and that will happen a lot quicker with Democrats in charge. Electing GOP Ayatollahs gives us nothing in my view. It was a Republican who gave us Tarp, who gave us the auto company bailout, who gave us prescription drugs, no child left behind, and who proposed amnesty for illegals.

GOP Ayatollahs = Obama

Same-O

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

someone rescue the boy and get him to look up what petulant means…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Romney has a legit chance to win in 2012 if the fundamentalist wing of the GOP can get over themselves.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

If they sit home, does he have a chance?

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

I worry that no one has the guts to promote conservatism anymore. People have been far to “flexible” in the name of vote getting and where has it gotten them? Americans like to work and earn and Dems want to kill productivity by promising free things that only an idiot believes will be free.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

someone rescue the boy and get him to look up what petulant means…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

I know what it means.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Bradky, you’re pissing in the wind brotha. the Cult of Palin is strong in these parts. She is a vacuous populist IMHO…the empress has no clothes. Romney has a legit chance to win in 2012 if the fundamentalist wing of the GOP can get over themselves.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Define what exactly a fundamentalist is please. I like Palin – am I fundamentalist. What else do you know about me? Where did you get these Jedi skills?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

When 2012 arrives, look at two things:

1) Who are the Donks running the most/hardest against in terms of quantity of attacks.

2) Who is the media gunning for the GOP to nominate.

My suggestion is you look really hard at voting for 1) and against 2).

SkinnerVic on July 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

dakine – populist, yes, to some extent. Vacuous, no.

I’m not saying I’d vote for her. But I’d much rather have her in the White House than the clueless gentleman who occupies the space now.

JEM on July 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I don’t care really – I can sit at home and wait for the revolution to go “hot” – and that will happen a lot quicker with Democrats in charge

Sit at home then – certainly your choice. But I’d lose the Galt’s Gulch fantasy you seem to want to occur…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Bradky, you’re pissing in the wind brotha. the Cult of Palin is strong in these parts. She is a vacuous populist IMHO…the empress has no clothes. Romney has a legit chance to win in 2012 if the fundamentalist wing of the GOP can get over themselves.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Define what exactly a fundamentalist is please. I like Palin – am I fundamentalist. What else do you know about me? Where did you get these Jedi skills?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I’m telling you, the Bradkys and dakines of the country are onto something brilliant. Defeating the Democrats without conservative voters.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Your know-it-all attitude just pushes people to endorse Gov. Palin. And you paint with a broad brush characterizing the majority of the HA as Palin supporters. Why can’t you just let it play out instead of insulting people?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 11:19 PM

I’m telling you, the Bradkys and dakines of the country are onto something brilliant. Defeating the Democrats without conservative voters.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:18 PM

You have it backwards. It is the self professed conservatives who can’t count very well and think that 20 million rush listeners will win an election. Some might call that delusional. Rino, CINO, Dem Lite are just some of the compliments used for the moderate/indpeendent wing who don’t like your girl. Not sure how persuasive that strategy is going to be.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Sit at home then – certainly your choice. But I’d lose the Galt’s Gulch fantasy you seem to want to occur…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Thanks for allowing me my choice. My real pleasure of course – will be in seeing your “moderate” RINO go down in flames.

Of course – the REALLY ORGASMIC part will be in seeing him crash and burn because Palin runs on a third ticket – and you’d better have your game on and put a lot of make-up on Mr. Cardboard Ayatollah. Give a good press to his turbin – he’ll need it. If he comes in third behind Palin and Obama – it will be the end of the GOP.

Such are the stakes of the election – and it didn’t have to be this way. Palin of course campaigned her heart out for McCain and for her worries she gets pelted by the Ayatollahs. The gauntlet of disrespect was thrown by them – and they didn’t just throw it at her – they threw it at us.

Reap what ya sow.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Why can’t you just let it play out instead of insulting people?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 11:19 PM

You ma’am are a hypocrite. Not once do you call out the Palinistas for their name calling and when I pointed that out you lasted two posts before doing the same thing.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:23 PM

You have it backwards. It is the self professed conservatives who can’t count very well and think that 20 million rush listeners will win an election. Some might call that delusional. Rino, CINO, Dem Lite are just some of the compliments used for the moderate/indpeendent wing who don’t like your girl. Not sure how persuasive that strategy is going to be.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:21 PM

In case you haven’t heard – we RAN a moderate McCain. He lost dude.

Your dude lost.

Why should we repeat a failure? Your plan is failure – we tried it.

Did I mention your guy lost?

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:24 PM

You ma’am are a hypocrite. Not once do you call out the Palinistas for their name calling and when I pointed that out you lasted two posts before doing the same thing.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Now you’re calling her names? When did she call you a name? Show me? When did I call you a name? Show me?

Are you from HuffPo?

Methinks.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:25 PM

You have it backwards. It is the self professed conservatives who can’t count very well and think that 20 million rush listeners will win an election. Some might call that delusional. Rino, CINO, Dem Lite are just some of the compliments used for the moderate/indpeendent wing who don’t like your girl. Not sure how persuasive that strategy is going to be.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:21 PM

OK, well then the obvious strategy is to moderate. Go for it. Honestly, I hope that’s the course the GOP takes in 2012. I want to see the theories and cherished beliefs of that “moderate/independent” wing put fully into action: nice moderate candidates at the pres AND VP slots. No more excuses, no more “fundamentalist” whipping boy. Win it on that moderate message.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:25 PM

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Palin is a novice and it showed. It doesn’t make her folksy, woman of the people, or any other labels you like to paint on her. It makes her look silly and now that she has quit her job she looks like a craven opportunist cashing in on her fifteen minutes of fame.

She will not fare as well as perot no matter how much you wish it to be so, jedi powers or not.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

She will not fare as well as perot no matter how much you wish it to be so, jedi powers or not.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Well then, why the bug up your ass?

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Are you from HuffPo?

Methinks. HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Ahh the shining knight comes to the aid of Queen G… only on the internet do you see adult men act in this fashion.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM

OK, well then the obvious strategy is to moderate. Go for it. Honestly, I hope that’s the course the GOP takes in 2012. I want to see the theories and cherished beliefs of that “moderate/independent” wing put fully into action: nice moderate candidates at the pres AND VP slots. No more excuses, no more “fundamentalist” whipping boy. Win it on that moderate message.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:25 PM

We did that – it didn’t work. LOL … the definition of insanity is to keep slamming your head against a wall.

Reagan wasn’t a moderate – he was deeply hated by the liberals, loved all across the South. He wasn’t a flip flopper. He wasn’t a businessman. He was right-wing conservative who penetrated the media filter because he inspired the Republican base and attracted a good number of Conservative Democrats.

If Mitt could do that … we would not have gotten McCain last election.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Like I said Bradky…pissing in the wind.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

She will not fare as well as perot no matter how much you wish it to be so, jedi powers or not.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Well then, why the bug up your ass?

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM

I mean, Palin’s an insignificant loser. All those ignorant “Rush listeners” are a non-factor. I’d think you’d find life to be pretty sweet.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Ahh the shining knight comes to the aid of Queen G… only on the internet do you see adult men act in this fashion.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Honestly I don’t know her and I’m not defending her. I’m attacking YOU. :D

And just for the hell of it – because your buttons are too easy to press. LOL

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Like I said Bradky…pissing in the wind.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

The moderate motto.

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Your right, I don’t call out the hard core people who are really sold on Gov. Palin or any candidate for that matter. Their minds are not going to be changed. You go after people who seem to be considering all the options. I don’t share anyone’s confidence in any candidate and I will state my misgivings about any and all but I don’t insult people for their convictions. Why is it so important to you that her possible candidacy be crushed?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM

She will not fare as well as perot no matter how much you wish it to be so, jedi powers or not.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Hmmm … you’re prolly right. We should nominate your boy McCain again! LOL

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Like I said Bradky…pissing in the wind.

dakine on July 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

LOL i suppose you are right. I’ll leave them to their sarahlove (cue in captain and tenille muskrat love tune) as they defend her honor in the scary world we call the internet…

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM

She will not fare as well as perot no matter how much you wish it to be so, jedi powers or not.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Hmmm … you’re prolly right. We should nominate your boy McCain again! LOL

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM

But do it right this time and nominate Pawlenty as VP, dammit!

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

How does Huck win the nomination?

With the help of a higher power?

RightOFLeft on July 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Why is it so important to you that her possible candidacy be crushed?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM

you miss the point entirely. the fervor that turns to insulting and boorish comments towards those who don’t care for Palin along with the “screw the party if its not Palin” sentiment are bad news for the party.
A tool is a tool whether they wear the O button or the P button.

Bradky on July 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Reagan wasn’t a moderate – he was deeply hated by the liberals, loved all across the South. He wasn’t a flip flopper. He wasn’t a businessman. He was right-wing conservative who penetrated the media filter because he inspired the Republican base and attracted a good number of Conservative Democrats.

If Mitt could do that … we would not have gotten McCain last election.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM

That is an inaccurate conclusion of last year’s result. You have an asleep electorate that it wouldn’t matter if the conservative candidate had the charisma of The One, it didn’t matter. Historical outcomes and our uneducated serfdom bought what was easy – no more, no less.

Have some real crisis and lazy and asleep may turn to pissed and active. Then we have a ready populus to “hear” the message (Reagan or otherwise). Carter provided that…

SkinnerVic on July 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM

But do it right this time and nominate Pawlenty as VP, dammit!

ddrintn on July 14, 2009 at 11:33 PM

McCain / Pawlenty.

What an INSPIRING ticket!

Someone pass me a caffeine pill please.

HondaV65 on July 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM

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