SarahPAC raises $733,000 in first six months of 2009; Update: Rush wonders about third-party run

posted at 3:30 pm on July 13, 2009 by Allahpundit

Actually, that’s only a five-month total since the PAC wasn’t up and running until the end of January. By comparison, Romney’s PAC raised $1.4 million through the end of May, but then fundraising is pretty much Mitt’s full-time gig these days and he already has a polished team around him left over from the primaries. Let’s see what happens in the second half when he and Palin go toe-to-toe.

The most intriguing detail from Politico’s report:

The majority of the money raised by SarahPAC so far has come in the form of “unitemized contributions,” meaning donations of less than $200 each. PACS are not required to name those small donors in their filings with the FEC. The remaining money came through more than 700 different $200-plus contributions made by donors from all around the United States.

According to its FEC records, SarahPAC’s biggest expenditure during the reporting period was the more than $103,000 it spent on EDonation.com, a Virginia-based firm that specializes in online fundraising.

Not surprisingly, it sounds like she’s going to follow The One’s lead and turn her support among the base into a cash machine via small donations. In fact, one of the co-founders of Team Sarah has an op-ed in the Examiner today urging her to do exactly that. The only problem: Obama didn’t raise most of his money that way. In fact, percentage-wise, he raised less from contributions under $200 than Bush and Kerry did in 2004. What made him a fundraising juggernaut capable of taking down the Clinton machine was the small money he raised combined with his ability to peel off big donors and big party names from Billary. If Palin runs a true outsider campaign in 2012 and tries to win on the strength of the base alone, she risks being overwhelmed by Romney vacuuming up the big money from party chieftains. Which is to say, even an outsider needs “insiders.” Help her, Fred Malek, you’re her only hope!

Exit question: I’m told Glenn Beck was yelling about a third-party on the radio this morning, a subject that’s been on my mind lately. So choose, bearing in mind that a split conservative vote greatly benefits The One. See, e.g., Clinton’s two victories.

Update: He knows third parties are sure losers but the thought of a “true conservative” faction clearly has him intrigued.

When I watched her speech, when she announced that she was leaving the governorship of Alaska, I didn’t hear the word Republican mentioned once. If I’m Sarah Palin and I’m conservative — Republican Party’s been just as mean-spirited to her as the Democrats have. A lot of them have, a lot of Republican media, a lot of the so-called conservative media have been. I don’t know if she’s going to campaign for conservative Democrats but if she believes that conservatism is the way to go. The one thing that does slightly worry me about this is this whole third party business. Yeah, it’s remote but it’s still a possibility out there and there are a lot of people pushing a third party and that’s — Third parties, they lose, they just lose. Third parties never end up with a congressional or Senate candidates. It’s just not the way to go. We’ll save that for later if that actually begins to transpire, we see it beginning to transpire.

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You must have SOMETHING that works in the swamp without jamming no?

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I’m a bit more concerned about urban situations. Though I do have a place in the high Sierra’s. Nice stream, good field of fire. No alligators, though.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

You must be shooting the Chinese versions … live a little – splurge for a Russian! A billion revolutionaries worldwide can’t be wrong!

Good Gaia man, the Russian AK’s are overpriced mods, put together from pieces unless they are minted war trophies.

Think outside of the AK box: Bulgarian (or Romanian if you like Dragunovs).

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

I want to hear what Sarah’s ideas are, what her stance is on issues.

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Well you’re not going to hear anything until she leaves the Governor’s mansion – everytime she opens her mouth there are looks at the lower 48 she gets mashed with another ethics complaint.

I’ve heard she has a book coming out – that may be the first thing she concentrates on then … perhaps she really jumps into the battle.

We’ll see – if she turns out to be a dud – I won’t stick with her but … I don’t think she’s going to be a dud.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

You are the Governor’s daughter and you should know better.

Palin is the victim in all of this.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM

I am Sarah Palins daughter? When did this happen?

LMFAO HAHHAHHHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

I have other things to do then deal with the mentally insane. God you people need to get a life.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I’m a bit more concerned about urban situations. Though I do have a place in the high Sierra’s. Nice stream, good field of fire. No alligators, though.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

You cannot get realistic training without the presence of gator in large number. It’s as close as you can get to live fire training without getting arrested.

Please tell me at least that you have Cougar you have to watch out for? Mean ones? Tell me about those.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Think outside of the AK box: Bulgarian (or Romanian if you like Dragunovs).

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Ahh no Russian. Mostly from areas around moscow.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Recall that Gore was always thought to be the front runner in 2000, and that Kerry looked like he would win a narrow victory in 2004.

massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Well, I recall the rigged MSM polls saying that, but I sured wasn’t feeling the love for Gore out in the real world. People had Clinton fatigue.

As for Kerry, I think he lost the election on I-voted-for-it-before-I-voted-against-it and playing himself up as a war hero while there will still a lot of people alive who remembered what a traitorous weasel he really was. Gifts to Rove.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM

I’ll stick with my AR-15, HK-91 and my Mossberg 835.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM

The BF and I have those too… but you can’t rally go hunting with them. What a loser.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM

A ‘70 Cuda ain’t too shabby neither *wink*

Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM

’67 GTO ragtop works very well, also.

jimmy2shoes on July 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Please tell me at least that you have Cougar you have to watch out for? Mean ones? Tell me about those.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM

We still have cougars around, but no way I would shoot one. Magnificent animals.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM

The BF and I have those too… but you can’t rally go hunting with them. What a loser.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Keep repeating…the 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting. The more we talk about hunting rights, the more statists go after handguns.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM

with respect…. sort of…

Please do the rest of us libertarians a favor, and change your name.

By using the term libertarian in your name, you portray yourself to speak for us.

But as someone from New York, and Marin Country, ie, Coast vs flyover country…

And with your disdain for the Double wide set, you do damgage to the Libertarian cause.

Its apparent that unlike some of us, who have lived on both coasts, and also in the midlands, that you do not understand that there are more libertarians in flyover country, than the coasts.

Feel free to speak for YOURSELF, but please, you do not speak for others of us, so please change your name so as not to taint OUR beliefs.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

We still have cougars around, but no way I would shoot one. Magnificent animals.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM

We have them here too in Louisiana – I’ve seen one – magnificent animal it is but when I told the Fish and Game men – they told me to produce physical evidence or GTFO of their face.

So next time I’ll shoot the mother. :D

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM

I’m good with the idea of a contract with America. The very first thing we need is a good set of spokesmen. They should be people who are not necessarily being mentioned as “potential front runners” in an up-coming election. I’m thinking either seasoned R’s at the end of their political runs (elder statesmen) or young Turks.

They could articulate the areas that are universally appealing to conservatives;
1. Smaller government.
2. Free market capitalism.
3. Energy independence.
4. American exceptionalism.
5. Strong defense.

We could invite everyone who wants to pull an oar aboard. And sort out the more divisive issues later.

This is the conservative base (and, these things are all good for America.)

The party would join up with this, when it became clear that it was a winning proposition.

massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Duly noted. By the way, jack, I grew up in a logging camp and have lived in St. Louis and Kansas City. So I’m not concerned with your opinion.

And if you had gone all the way back up the thread, you would see that I didn’t start that crap.

And no one assumes I speak for you, OK?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Keep repeating…the 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting. The more we talk about hunting rights, the more statists go after handguns.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

I live in the real world. The second ammendment to me is 1. arming myself against rejects like you and 2. getting lunch. I am sure you really don’t have a clue about hunting in the “big city”.

Either you are the lead dog or you are looking at a bunch of a-holes. I am pretty sure you are eating sh!t at the moment.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Please do the rest of us libertarians a favor, and change your name.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Well most of us here on HA realize that GTL doesn’t speak for libertarians – we may live in double wides – but we’re smart enough and sober enough to know that most libertarians are great folk.

Tip of the day … never buy a racoon carcass from the butcher in the local grocery unless it has the feet on it.

Otherwise – he could be selling you a CAT! Yeah – and unless you’re planning on fixin’ up tomales or something – cat meat is utterly useless.

Forwarned is Forearmed!

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM

hey Romeo, do you have my email?

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Hey now.. no cooking kitty!

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Never heard that term. But are u implying one cannot accept Christ and also let abortion be between another individual and God?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM

It’s not between themselves and God. It is between them, the child in the womb, the man involved, and that other guy who had his fall long before Adam and Eve.

Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Please change your name or people in here will assume you speak for everyone in alaska.

I’m really, deeply impressed that you shoot your lunch. How far does a .223 go through a 5-inch stack of food stamps, by the way?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

In no particular order….
1. Re-read the book; it’s well worth it – I do, every 10 years or so.
2. Haven’t seen Elizabeth yet.
3. Looks aside, Rove’s instints appeared solid. He took George W. Bush through 2 elections that were thought to be un-winnable. Recall that Gore was always thought to be the front runner in 2000, and that Kerry looked like he would win a narrow victory in 2004.

massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

1) Excellent advice, although these days, I’m more into non-fiction — I just finished Tocqueville’s Democracy in America and am about 50 pages into The Wealth of Nations, of which I’ve read lengthy excerpts, but have never read cover-to-cover. Maybe after that . . .

2) I strongly recommend it; Cate Blanchett is of course great as Elizabeth, but I thought that Geoffrey Rush was the real scene-stealer. Of course, I have the same fondness for Francis Walsingham as an eminence grise that I do Cardinal Richelieu, Otto von Bismarck, Dick Cheney, etc.

3) Speaking of eminences grises, Governor Palin really needs to find one to attach to herself. Rove has his place as a shuffler of people and funds, and he has a generally true conservative compass. However, if the governor is going to either wrest control of the Republican Party from the mandarins or strike out on her own, she needs someone who both knows where the bodies are buried and is willing to bury a few himself.

loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I never understood Rove’s reputation.

Under Reagan, we had massive landslides. Even Bush 1 cleaned Dukakis’ clock big-time.

Then, after the Clinton era, Rove is celebrated for squeaking out little, teeny cliff-hangers and we lose both houses. Where’s the beef?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

I agree… but back then we had presidents (and candidates) worth half a damn and nameless campaign managers.

Now we have presidents (and candidates) that aren’t worth half a damn and famous campaign managers.

Am I the only one seeing a serious problem with this?

Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Allahpundit,

I’m sure The Whig Party had its financial backers at the time…

…just that the “backers” that counted (AKA the voters) told ‘em to shove it anyway.

Don’t need no steenkin’ GOP….

Lockstein13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I grew up in a logging camp and have lived in St. Louis and Kansas City.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Don’t try to impress us with any “claimed” Redneck credentials you think you have.

If you say “I used to be a Redneck” … then you never really were one. True Rednecks don’t turn to the dark side and move to Cahlifornya and drink Starbucks.

I’ve just been funning around here but if you start claiming Redneck status – that’s really going to tick me tremendously.

Take it back.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM

I agree… but back then we had presidents (and candidates) worth half a damn and nameless campaign managers.

Now we have presidents (and candidates) that aren’t worth half a damn and famous campaign managers.

Am I the only one seeing a serious problem with this?

Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Well, personally, I didn’t think Bush 1 was worth half a damn. And Reagan had Atwood, who was hell on wheels.

But I get your point.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM

There’s a new headline that says that Palin raised an additional $200,000, that came in after this report’s deadline, after she officially resigned.

And I bring in my comment from that thread:

So, let me get this straight…

Romney has raised $1,400,000 this year so far, by touring, doing speaking circuits, and fund-raising–pulling in big donors.

Palin has raised around $900,000 this year so far, by doing nothing.

[Someone also makes note that she raised $250,000 for the Alaskan Trust Fund, the Governor's legal defense fund].

Mhm. And whose political career is over?

Enoxo on July 13, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Please change your name or people in here will assume you speak for everyone in alaska.

I’m really, deeply impressed that you shoot your lunch. How far does a .223 go through a 5-inch stack of food stamps, by the way?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I like my 30.06 thank you.

I don’t care what you think. You are just a newbie… with some mental issues thinking that the grandure part is going to work for you.

It isn’t. Maybe you should try something else. Say knitting seem more your style.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:05 PM

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I wouldn’t diss the Alaskan.

I lived out of Anchorage for 2 years at Fort Richardson (I was 4 at the time). I’ve seen the country. He’s probably right.

Wasilla… as small as it is, is the 5th largest city in Alaska… which should tell you something.

Alaska is a vast expanse of country… with a few cities plus anchorage on the southern coast.

Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM

I’m really, deeply impressed that you shoot your lunch. How far does a .223 go through a 5-inch stack of food stamps, by the way?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Hey are they still picking up the garbage at your place in California?

How far does a .308 HK penetrate a 500 dollar electric bill?

Hehehehe … I crack myself up!

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Please tell me at least that you have Cougar you have to watch out for? Mean ones? Tell me about those.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Don’t tell me about them — tell them to date in their own age group and send them my way.

Duly noted. By the way, jack, I grew up in a logging camp and have lived in St. Louis and Kansas City. So I’m not concerned with your opinion.

Hey, now — I live near St Louis, and I’m not sure that I like the implication that you can’t live here and be elitist!

OK, I’ll be serious now . . .

loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM

If you say “I used to be a Redneck” … then you never really were one. True Rednecks don’t turn to the dark side and move to Cahlifornya and drink Starbucks.

I’ve just been funning around here but if you start claiming Redneck status – that’s really going to tick me tremendously.

Take it back.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Never said I was a redneck, but my father was a tree-limber, lumberjack and choker setter in the Sierra mountains and I spent many a summer’s day scubbing grease from Cat parts with a wire brush.

Sure, I went out and got a big-time education and lived it up in big cities, but that doesn’t make me a hopeless sinner.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM

And if you had gone all the way back up the thread, you would see that I didn’t start that crap.

And no one assumes I speak for you, OK?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

You started the Double Wide attack, sugar buttons. I just argued with you about Giuliani. And yes, I started the Gun’s School of Rim Jobs.
Don’t play the victim, it looks bad on you.

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM

You’re asking a wad of mostly conservatives if they’ll vote to hand the election to the democrats by voting for Palin, vote for the marxist fascist in chief, or vote for the (presumed at this point) GO nominee who will lose to Obama if Palin does a 3rd party run?

Do you really need to ask that to know the answer?

Here, I’ll make it easy. Ross Perot.

Got it?

Spiritk9 on July 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM

dude this guy is about as worthless as horns on a freaking bear.

They guy doesn’t have a clue.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM

HornetSting on July 13, 2009

Can we just knock this crap off?

It’s tiresome and demeans all of us.

I’m serious.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM

HornetSting on July 13, 2009

He is whining…. ohhh ohhh pooor BABY!

Good god.. no b@lls.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Sure, I went out and got a big-time education and lived it up in big cities, but that doesn’t make me a hopeless sinner.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM

If you lost touch with who you are and where you came from – it DOES make you a hopeless sinner.

I worked in the White House doing communications for the Bush and Clinton administrations. I made Master Chief in the USN in 14 and half years.

Yet … I’m no better than anyone that lives in a double wide and no matter where I’ve been or what I’ve done – I’m still a redneck boy.

And always will be.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:11 PM

HornetSting on July 13, 2009
Can we just knock this crap off?

It’s tiresome and demeans all of us.

I’m serious.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Oh, quit crying, pencil neck. Go whine to your therapist, cityslicker!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:11 PM

I worked in the White House doing communications for the Bush and Clinton administrations. I made Master Chief in the USN in 14 and half years.

I honor your service. And forgive you for working for Clinton.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:12 PM

HornetSting on July 13, 2009
He is whining…. ohhh ohhh pooor BABY!

Good god.. no b@lls.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I figured we’d make him cry eventually. You go girl!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:11 PM

I give you permission to open up a new one on this.. guy? Well he doesn’t have any testicular fortitude… so just rip him.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Yet … I’m no better than anyone that lives in a double wide and no matter where I’ve been or what I’ve done – I’m still a redneck boy.

And always will be.

HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 10:11 PM

*Flicks bic and gives hommage*

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:14 PM

I figured we’d make him cry eventually. You go girl!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM

blah… this guy is a joke. WOOOO he has a freaking AR-15. I do to.. but since I “adjusted it” (Thanks U.S.Army!) It works so much better for me now!

sighs…

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Hmmm… Jack? thats my dead fathers name… so I’ll take that as a compliment as he was a good man.

Thank you other HA people… I know its somtimes hard to NOT tar a group, with the “interesting posts” of someone who says they are a member of that group.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Well, personally, I didn’t think Bush 1 was worth half a damn. And Reagan had Atwood, who was hell on wheels.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM

YES! That’s what I’m talking about! I think you mean Atwater, but still, exactly the type that we need!

loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Hmmm… Jack? thats my dead fathers name… so I’ll take that as a compliment as he was a good man.

Thank you other HA people… I know its somtimes hard to NOT tar a group, with the “interesting posts” of someone who says they are a member of that group.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

This guy is more full of sh*t than a seagull. And he splatters just as much.

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Enoxo on July 13, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Earlier in this thread (first two pages or so) some posters indicated that Romneys 1.4 mil is actualy from summer 2009-present. And that 2009 numbers were more like 400K.

If true, it further validates your point.

massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM

YES! That’s what I’m talking about! I think you mean Atwater, but still, exactly the type that we need

Atwater was a monster. Tragic that he died so young. That guy had more balls than the entire GOP. And he knew how to connect to real people.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Nope, don’t have yer email… but I’ll get it another day… the current environment with some of the “interesting” people on this site leads to a bit of discretion…

Paranoia… not a pathology, but a survival mechanism, depending on the environment.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:15 PM

/ducks behind cover… Loads his “modified” M-14

You know… AR-15s are a girly gun…

/smile

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM

No worries.

I am off.. to vaccum the hair of the dog and cats.. and then off to get that damn grouse or ptarmigan in the tree I keep hearing.

Yum… stupid bird cooks well!

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I’ll stick with my AR-15, HK-91 and my Mossberg 835.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM

It might be a stupid question, but do have an actual HK91? They are hard to find here, the closest I come is a very beat-up version at a local store priced about a grand too high.

I envy you, that’s an awesome rifle.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM

the BF and i are thinking about getting a .50 cal. No reason other then it is COOL.

And I don’t like movable stocks. The old army was how I was taught. 14 yrs ago, by real VV grunts.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Gun shows and friends who sell. If he has a decent one I would be surprised.

But god help me if I can;t get the freaking AMMO up here still!

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Now THIS is a gun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kRjCFs8fQ&feature=related

Jeff from WI on July 13, 2009 at 10:29 PM

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if his 91 is in good condition; I have crossed paths with guys who own them and they would rather lose a limb than that rifle. It seems to be the clunkers which hit the ‘used’ rack.

I buy, sell, trade and barter guns and have never been able to pry a 91 (or a 93) from anyone’s hands unless I had been willing to sell my soul to get it.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 10:33 PM

the BF and i are thinking about getting a .50 cal. No reason other then it is COOL.

And I don’t like movable stocks. The old army was how I was taught. 14 yrs ago, by real VV grunts.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Nice…. my biggest prob with the 14 is that I keep destroying my match grade barrels… because I’m… uh… shooting a bit too fast?

But its … uh… still Rock and Roll to me?

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Once again proving why you’re too smart to live in NYC. How’s that double-wide doing? Gotcher shag rug all installed and everything?

And by the way, illegitimacy and welfare dependence are well-represented in small towns and rural areas, too.

Got the ring job on that Chevy done?

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM

If you spit out the right number of posts, the mask comes off eventually. Obama’s your guy, whether you realize it or not. I’m guessing you do. Another Moby.

ddrintn on July 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Yeah, I don’t think you could buy one during the AWB. Now, when you expect another AWB, no private seller is gonna let one go.

You can’t get them at all in California.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:51 PM

The thing to do then is to ignore Palin entirely.

ddrintn on July 13, 2009 at 7:53 PM

That’s exactly the reasoning that says if I don’t believe in global warming, I should shut up, hmmm. And just let the rest of you who are so enlightened about Sarah ignore the warning signs.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Huh? I ignore global warming daily.

ddrintn on July 13, 2009 at 10:52 PM

mmmm, a (((Sarah post)))

disa on July 13, 2009 at 10:57 PM

You can’t get them at all in California.

As a matter of fact, I won’t even take mine to a range. The way it works in CA these days is if a cop happens to see the rifle the way it’s configured, he’ll impound it and then I have to prove I owned it before 2000 (which I did)..and hope that they give the gun back to me.

Bastards.

There is now an approved firearms list in CA. The original list had a certain colt pistol on it…can’t remember which one. About 5,000 citizens bought them in approved transactions through gun dealers. Then a couple of years later, the CA Dept of Justice changed their mind about that particular gun…and sent letters to all those buyers(hmmmm), informing them that failure to surrender their property would constitute a felony.

Not only don’t they give a crap about the 2nd Amendment out here, they don’t care Article 1.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM

It’s about time Rush started to see the third party angle…..it’s a shame he didn’t call me sooner, I would have brought him up to speed at least a week ago.

David in ATL on July 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM-1st Post
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7 hours 10 minutes on a Palin Thread.- Priceless.

portlandon on July 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM-1st Post
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 10:59 PM-Last Post

7 hours 10 minutes on a Palin Thread.- Priceless.

portlandon on July 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM
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You betcha!

oldyeller on July 13, 2009 at 11:24 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM-1st Post
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7 hours 10 minutes on a Palin Thread.- Priceless.

portlandon on July 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM

An he earned $15.32. He makes way more giving rim jobs.

Geochelone on July 13, 2009 at 11:28 PM

If she runs 3rd party she Palin is going to split the GOP vote and help elect Obama again.

Last coffin nail in Americas pine box.

Boxy_Brown on July 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM

If she runs 3rd party she Palin is going to split the GOP vote and help elect Obama again.

Last coffin nail in Americas pine box.

Boxy_Brown on July 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM

I don’t know if Palin’s even ever going to run, or when, or for what. But I just don’t see her trying to form a third party. That would take a Perot-type ego which I think she doesn’t have.

ddrintn on July 13, 2009 at 11:33 PM

I fear for our country if we allow Palin to siphon votes to a third party and re-elect Obama.

In fact, if we’re that stubborn and hard headed, I wonder why should I even care about the country anymore? The majority certainly doesn’t.

scotash on July 13, 2009 at 11:49 PM

There’s a scene in Braveheart where Wallace tells The Bruce that if he just leads them, they’ll follow. Palin is in the exact same position. Forget those Independents that hate Palin,it’s about those people who NEVER vote, who’ve been so depressed about the process that they’ve dropped out of it, just may drop back in if a party and candidate really excites them.

Jeff from WI on July 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM

There’s a scene in Braveheart when Wallace…
rides into the middle of the 1st battlefield, to interrupt the negotiations of the terms for “surrender”, by the English and the Scottish landowners, to go kick up some dust and start a war.

This is how I see Sarah Palin. She’s playing chicken with the GOP. She’s following the Reagan strategy and is taking it directly to the people. All summer, she will draw huge crowds and the GOP will be painted into a corner. I can’t wait to see her.

luvstotango on July 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Jeff from WI on July 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Your scene when Wallace asks for leadership from Robert the Bruce, always makes me cry. I suspect, most on this board, crave that leadership as well.

luvstotango on July 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM

luvstotango on Juky 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM

What Sarah Palin wiil accomplish over the next 2 years:

1)Diminish Obama’s halo by attacking him every day and drawing blood

2)Legitimizing her credentials as extremely
knowledgeable on policy

3)Proving that she is a leader

technopeasant on July 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM

“loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM”

If we’re delving into suggested reading materials, let me toss out Atlas Shrugged & The Fountainhead. Recently reread these and I must admit a more than one moment of a “Twilight Zone” feeling. There is nothing quite like reading unvarnished intellect presciently describing nightmares to come, while hearing them play out in real time on cable news!

Very disconcerting to say the least!

Whether it be Palin or someone else, I hope we find someone viable in time to reverse the course we are on.

I’ve recently returned to school and am researching for a paper
on 60′s radicals and where they are now. I have been pretty much concentrating on the “Students for a Democratic Society”(SDS) and the “Weather Underground” which engaged in sedition, subversion and terrorist acts from the 60′s-80′s.

In looking for “Where they are now” it turned into a who’s who’s of Team Obama. I kid you not!

So far I’ve placed the following squarely amongst his ranks:

Carl Davidson
Paul Booth
Marilyn Katz
Andy Stern
Todd Gitlin
Tom Hayden
Howie Machtlinger
Bruce Rubenstien
Jim Jacobs
Steve Tappis
Wade Rathke
Mark Rudd
Dale Rathke

And of course Bill Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn. All former SDS/Weather Underground members directly connected to Obama! I’ve 219 names/members yet to track down, but this is unbeleivable!

Archimedes on July 14, 2009 at 12:32 AM

If we’re delving into suggested reading materials, let me toss out Atlas Shrugged & The Fountainhead. Recently reread these and I must admit a more than one moment of a “Twilight Zone” feeling. There is nothing quite like reading unvarnished intellect presciently describing nightmares to come, while hearing them play out in real time on cable news!

Archimedes on July 14, 2009 at 12:32 AM

I have to confess to not having read any Rand as of yet; I really do need to correct that at some point. There must have been something about her ideas if they so drove Mr Buckley to distraction . . .

loneloc on July 14, 2009 at 12:48 AM

loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Atlas & Fountainhead are not “easy reading” she can a touch verbose and atough slog. However, she’s dead on in her philosophy and description of the powers working against “us”. She was obviously a remakable woman, kinda as I suspect, Upinak is.

Archimedes on July 14, 2009 at 1:04 AM

luvstotango on Juky 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM

What Sarah Palin wiil accomplish over the next 2 years:

1)Diminish Obama’s halo by attacking him every day and drawing blood

2)Legitimizing her credentials as extremely
knowledgeable on policy

3)Proving that she is a leader

technopeasant on July 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM

You’re exactly right!

We’re sick of the Scottish nobles Republicans, going out in to the battlefield and negotiating surrender to the English Democrats.

(new movie analogy)
Sarah’s just gone commando…rising out of the water, a la Sylvester Stallone, carrying her M2 Machine Gun, Browning .50 Caliber Machine with a headband on, ready for a takedown and takeback of America.

Dear GOP Leader Czar:

We’re tired of bi-partisanship, by the elites, from both sides of the aisle.

We will not be denied.

Sincerely,
Madame de Farge

luvstotango on July 14, 2009 at 1:25 AM

Oh, and I forgot Giuliani….in the face of leftist hate-mongering that made what Palin has gone through look like a taffy-pulling contest.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM

So saying Trig wasn’t her son, giving her crap for having a disabled child.. is taffy pulling?

Good Lord.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Senor Pistole,
As a former NewYorker too:
Above is a “upinak” question that you didn’t seem to answer.

IMO, the only family attacks Rudy had to endure from the NY Lib Media, were either about his mistress(now 2nd wife), or his precocious son’s outbursts against his cheatin’ Daddy. In both of those issues, Rudy brought the bad press down on his family. Still, Rudy could rely on at least 4 million gumbas in the city to get out the vote — smile, that’s NYC politics!

Too bad he didn’t run for Governor or take on Hillary for Senator, then we’d have a gauge to determine if he had any heft outside of city politics. With regard to Rudy’s 2008 campaign claim to fame, that was limited to his and Charlie Crist’s successful sand-bagging of the Florida primary for a McCain victory over Romney.

As for Palin’s enduring the attacks on her family, viz the mountains of manure heaped on her kids by the lefty media and by the resident dirtbags from both political parties — she’s taken the hits like a champ and counter-punched way above her weight!

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on July 14, 2009 at 6:02 AM

I’m good with the idea of a contract with America. The very first thing we need is a good set of spokesmen. They should be people who are not necessarily being mentioned as “potential front runners” in an up-coming election. I’m thinking either seasoned R’s at the end of their political runs (elder statesmen) or young Turks.

They could articulate the areas that are universally appealing to conservatives;
1. Smaller government.
2. Free market capitalism.
3. Energy independence.
4. American exceptionalism.
5. Strong defense.

We could invite everyone who wants to pull an oar aboard. And sort out the more divisive issues later.

This is the conservative base (and, these things are all good for America.)

The party would join up with this, when it became clear that it was a winning proposition.

massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Take a look at Ted Cruz.

Blacksmith8 on July 14, 2009 at 6:42 AM

Love Rudy, Sarah, Liz Cheney (REALLY love her) Fred! and Newt.

They’d dismember any dem.

LtE126 on July 14, 2009 at 8:00 AM

LMAO. Allah has absolutely no clue what Palin has planned and that bugs the hell out of him. Welcome back, paganista.

Ronnie on July 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM

I personally thought her statement that she would campaign for anyone, regardless of party, if they shared ideas was quite a nice political stroke.

She definitely identified herself as apart from the GOP standard issue politician. Given that THEIR polls are so incredibly low, that’s a good thing.

AnninCA on July 14, 2009 at 9:26 AM

You’re exactly right!

We’re sick of the Scottish nobles Republicans, going out in to the battlefield and negotiating surrender to the English Democrats.

(new movie analogy)
Sarah’s just gone commando…rising out of the water, a la Sylvester Stallone, carrying her M2 Machine Gun, Browning .50 Caliber Machine with a headband on, ready for a takedown and takeback of America.

Dear GOP Leader Czar:

We’re tired of bi-partisanship, by the elites, from both sides of the aisle.

We will not be denied.

Sincerely,
Madame de Farge

luvstotango on July 14, 2009 at 1:25 AM

“God didn’t create Palin, I did”

Jeff from WI on July 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Some say that conservatives should start using the same tactics against the left that they have been using against us….I agree.

No one has come under fire more than Gov. Palin and here is some RED MEAT for those who have time to do some research. I bet some of these people filing ethics complaints can be tracked back to George Soros, MSNBC, Rahm Emanuel or the likes. Don’t let these trolls get away with anonomously destroying conservatives.

One such person…a certain Zane Henning from Wasilla filed at least two unrelated ethics complaint against Palin. I wonder who the puppet master pulling his strings are? We need to remember all of these charges are frivilous and politically motivated and at the LEAST these people should be pressured to reimburse the state of Alaska.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html

Zane Henning (Wasilla) filed complaint alleging that Palin improperly paid herself per diem related to travel

2. Aug. 6, 2008: Complaint filed by outspoken Palin critic Andree McLeod of Anchorage contended Palin and some staff members used their influence to get a Palin supporter a job in state government. Complaint alleged Palin staffers helped Tom Lamal, who once co-hosted a Palin fundraiser, to get a job as a surveyor. Dismissed by state personnel board, although the board’s investigator recommended ethics training for one staffer who made questionable comments in e-mails.
3. Aug. 20, 2008: Complaint accused Palin of breaking election law by taking a public position on a mining ballot initiative days before the vote. Filed by Brian Kraft, founder of the Bristol Bay Alliance, a group that opposed the Pebble Mine prospect. Rejected May 8 by the Alaska Public Offices Commission.
7. Oct. 23, 2008: Complaint with the Federal Election Commission by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics alleged the $150,000-plus designer wardrobe the Republican Party bought to outfit Palin in her vice presidential quest violated Federal Election Campaign Act. The Washington watchdog group argued that candidates aren’t supposed to use donor money for personal expenses. The FEC ruled May 19 that party money is not covered by the ban.
9. Nov. 14, 2008: Accused Palin of partisan “post-election damage control” for talking to reporters about the campaign in her state office. Filed by Zane Henning, a North Slope worker from Wasilla, Palin’s hometown. Dismissed by state personnel board March 23.
10. Dec. 2, 2008: Alleged Palin violated ethics law by campaigning for Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia. Filed by Anthony Martin of Talkeetna. Dismissed by state personnel board March 23.
12. Jan. 12: Complaint alleging interference in a job hiring was filed under the name of Edna Birch, a busybody character on the British soap opera Emmerdale. Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, said no one by that name could be found living in Alaska and the filer refused to use a real name, so the complaint was dismissed Feb. 20.
13. and 14. Jan. 26: Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin’s top aides misused their official positions for Palin’s personal and political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill McAllister and Kris Perry — director of the governor’s Anchorage office — worked on state time to benefit Palin’s interests during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.
15. March 18: Contended Palin improperly used state staff, property, time and equipment for partisan political purposes. One of the grievances cited was Palin’s posting of her veep candidacy on the official state governor’s Web site — http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1439&type=1 Complaint filed by McLeod. Dismissed May 27 as lacking merit by personnel board May 27.
16. March 24: Contended conflict of interest by Palin because she wore Arctic Cat logo gear during the Tesoro Iron Dog snowmobile race. Palin’s husband, Todd, is sponsored by Arctic Cat in the race. Filed by Linda Kellen Biegel, a Democratic blogger. Dismissed June 2.
17. April 22: Alleged that work with Palin’s political action committee violated two provisions of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act by misusing her official position and accepting outside employment. Filed by Anchorage resident Sondra Tompkins. Dismissed as lacking merit by state personnel board May 8.
18. April 27: Contends Palin is misusing the governor’s office for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than $500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints, including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident, Kim Chatman. Pending.

Goodeye_Closed on July 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM

If she runs 3rd party she Palin is going to split the GOP vote and help elect Obama again.

Boxy_Brown on July 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Shouldn’t the GOP be concerned about that and not be so quick to trash her and her supporters?

katiejane on July 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Shouldn’t the GOP be concerned about that and not be so quick to trash her and her supporters?

Good point. What’s really relevant is how low the GOP identication has fallen.

Why save a party that only has such a small real base?

AnninCA on July 14, 2009 at 10:40 AM

katiejane on July 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Your question assumes that the leadership of the GOP at this point still has a modicum of common sense.

Snowed In on July 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Love Rudy, Sarah, Liz Cheney (REALLY love her) Fred! and Newt.
They’d dismember any dem.
LtE126 on July 14, 2009

I agree…these are the standard bearers for true conservatives. I don’t agree 100% with some of those people but it’s not necessary that I do.

The RINO’s can keep the big government imposters like Romney, Pawlenty, Huckabee, and Jindal. Just give me a pro-business, pro-middle class, anti-tax, anti-spending conservative and the way the economy is going…..they will win in a landslide.

Goodeye_Closed on July 14, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Well, when AP wants to generate some strong numbers in the comments, he’ll only have to start with the Palin/Third Party Run rumor…

RedSoxNation on July 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

When Sarah Palin starts a third party, my money and I are going to leave the Rebulican party for good… In a heartbeat… Bring it on!

Khun Joe on July 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM

She’d better spend it fast. Obamaflation will make it worth about 1/2 mill.

marklmail on July 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Goodeye_Closed on July 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

TOTALLY not cool. You don’t post ANY presonal information on anyone even if it is a ethics complaining troll!

You do realize Ed or Allah could be sued for your stupidity! Jesus, GROW A BRAIN!

upinak on July 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM

A Palin-Romney square-off, whether within the Republican Party or between it and an third party, would not split the conservative vote.

In a race against Romeny, Palin would walk away with the conservative vote.

Romeny worked to create state-mandated health insurance, which has dramatically driven up the cost of insurance in Mass.

Romney is tied to the mast of Obama and Congress’ incremental health care nationalization efforts, which will prove to be outlandishly expensive and unpopular.

Sarah did no such thing in Alaska.

Her Op-Ed today on energy policy and cap and tax, published so soon after announcing her retirement, is encouraging.

Sarah will be speaking at packed venues very, very soon.

Sarah represents a movement that I am sure she would be the first to acknowledge is bigger than herself.

The lifelong conservatives who have been foresaken by their party, which is virtually indistinguishable from the Democratic Party, want to be heard.

The voters who are tired of both parties want to be heard.

The Democratic Party and the Republican Party have a huge problem on their hands who is known as Sarah Palin.

She will soon be jeering and laughing at both of them – to the applause of millions.

I loved seeing Republican Congressmen, who showed up at Tea Party events, being booed.

Things are going to get interesting real soon.

Wait and see.

molonlabe28 on July 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM

I only am giving Palin a chance because she’s a renegade. If it’s the standard GOP message, I know I’m out.

The anti-healthcare reform makes no sense to me whatsoever. I think it’s completely illogical.

I want someone, anyway, who actually thinks about the issues and doesn’t play partisan politics to such a degree that they become idiots.

AnninCA on July 14, 2009 at 12:30 PM

She’ll use the third party threat to crush the RINOs, just like she did in Alaska.

After campaigning as a non-partisan, drawing huge screaming crowds, raising millions from small donors and dominating the media coverage – everyone will be talking about nothing but Sarah! – she’ll turn to the Republican establishment and moneymen, bat the baby-blues and say, “Boys, we all know that if I run as a third party candidate Satan will win a second term but I’m willing to do just that for the purity of my message. However, if you ditch those loser RINOs and proclaim me The One, I’ll lead us all to glory. Mitt, Huck and the other losers can get a show on FOX to keep them busy and YOU will regain your lost power.”

Who could resist?

lonesomecharlie on July 14, 2009 at 1:02 PM

I wish republicans would stop claiming Palin voters would be to blame for ‘splitting the party’ and handing Ogabe a victory in ’12. If the GOP fields a candidate against an independent Palin, it will be them and those who vote for their establishment candidate that are to blame. I mean, the arrogance of expecting independent voters to vote either Democrat or Republican is incredulous. Step outside your archaic and dysfunctional bipartisan system, my friends, and vote for the one you WANT, NOT AGAINST WHO YOU DON’T WANT.

And the only reason Perot lost in 92 is because he left the race and then got back in. A common sense platform and LOTS AND LOTS of advertising will win in ’12.

hogfat on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM

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