SarahPAC raises $733,000 in first six months of 2009; Update: Rush wonders about third-party run
posted at 3:30 pm on July 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Actually, that’s only a five-month total since the PAC wasn’t up and running until the end of January. By comparison, Romney’s PAC raised $1.4 million through the end of May, but then fundraising is pretty much Mitt’s full-time gig these days and he already has a polished team around him left over from the primaries. Let’s see what happens in the second half when he and Palin go toe-to-toe.
The most intriguing detail from Politico’s report:
The majority of the money raised by SarahPAC so far has come in the form of “unitemized contributions,” meaning donations of less than $200 each. PACS are not required to name those small donors in their filings with the FEC. The remaining money came through more than 700 different $200-plus contributions made by donors from all around the United States.
According to its FEC records, SarahPAC’s biggest expenditure during the reporting period was the more than $103,000 it spent on EDonation.com, a Virginia-based firm that specializes in online fundraising.
Not surprisingly, it sounds like she’s going to follow The One’s lead and turn her support among the base into a cash machine via small donations. In fact, one of the co-founders of Team Sarah has an op-ed in the Examiner today urging her to do exactly that. The only problem: Obama didn’t raise most of his money that way. In fact, percentage-wise, he raised less from contributions under $200 than Bush and Kerry did in 2004. What made him a fundraising juggernaut capable of taking down the Clinton machine was the small money he raised combined with his ability to peel off big donors and big party names from Billary. If Palin runs a true outsider campaign in 2012 and tries to win on the strength of the base alone, she risks being overwhelmed by Romney vacuuming up the big money from party chieftains. Which is to say, even an outsider needs “insiders.” Help her, Fred Malek, you’re her only hope!
Exit question: I’m told Glenn Beck was yelling about a third-party on the radio this morning, a subject that’s been on my mind lately. So choose, bearing in mind that a split conservative vote greatly benefits The One. See, e.g., Clinton’s two victories.
Update: He knows third parties are sure losers but the thought of a “true conservative” faction clearly has him intrigued.
When I watched her speech, when she announced that she was leaving the governorship of Alaska, I didn’t hear the word Republican mentioned once. If I’m Sarah Palin and I’m conservative — Republican Party’s been just as mean-spirited to her as the Democrats have. A lot of them have, a lot of Republican media, a lot of the so-called conservative media have been. I don’t know if she’s going to campaign for conservative Democrats but if she believes that conservatism is the way to go. The one thing that does slightly worry me about this is this whole third party business. Yeah, it’s remote but it’s still a possibility out there and there are a lot of people pushing a third party and that’s — Third parties, they lose, they just lose. Third parties never end up with a congressional or Senate candidates. It’s just not the way to go. We’ll save that for later if that actually begins to transpire, we see it beginning to transpire.
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But yeah the squash is FINALLY starting to produce in bushels. Tomatoes are starting (I have a quicker/smaller growing season) I have strawberries out the ying yang, eggplant, cucumbers, 4 different hot peppers (all have produced) broccli, cabbage, lettuce out of the ying, kahlrobi, carrots, garlic and potatoes.. potatoes everywhere!
upinak on July 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Once again proving why you’re too smart to live in NYC. How’s that double-wide doing? Gotcher shag rug all installed and everything?
And by the way, illegitimacy and welfare dependence are well-represented in small towns and rural areas, too.
Got the ring job on that Chevy done?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM
It’s the truth, She came home from work and all these kids started bothering her…Instead of learning about a strategic way to force North Korea’s hand, she was instead warming trig’s milk or reading a stupid bedtime story to piper.
Face it, The downfall of Palin is those 5 children and especially bristol.
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:22 PM
upinak on July 13, 2009 at 8:21 PM
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I like Rush but even his bottom line is the win.
It’s not going to be easy – but we really need to abandon the GOP and find another party. Third parties require an opportunity in the form a dynamic personality to catalyze them. Sarah Palin is such a personality. She may not be the party’s first Presidential nominee – she may never be a Presidential nominee. Personally – I don’t think it’s Palin’s goal to BE President. She could easily become the engine behind a new party though.
Look – people who believe Mitt is the savior are sadly mistaken. He’s beholden to the Ayatollah’s – who convinced him last year to jump out of the primaries. Mitt is NOT a fighter. If he were – he would not have so easily allowed RINO McCain to take the party from Conservatives. When the chips were down – Mitt was not there fighting for the soul of the party for Conservatism – he was there surrendering it to the RINO’s.
Mitt is a politician – through and through.
Another angle I’ll throw out there is that it’s doubtful Mitt will survive the media scrutiny. The media didn’t really get a chance to work a number up on Mitt Romney last year – so when they finally do get around to slinging mud on him in 2012 – his campaign is going to struggle with fending them off. There is MUCH fertile ground for the media to make hay of … his flip-flopping on the issues … his Mormon faith – and expect to see a lot of “weirdness” thrown about concerning his Mormonism – and Mitt will have to fight every single drop of that mud.
By contrast – Palin has been vetted in the media – who went nuclear on her very early. It’s reasonable to say that the media have expended all of their credibility on trashing Palin – and really have nothing left.
But – if Palin goes third party inn 2012 – I anticipate her media coverage will be a lot more favorable. The media will play her up because they will know she’s drawing votes away from Mitt.
Mitt Romney is a GOP Ayatollah. Of the same family of Ayatollahs that refused to FIGHT the Democrats over safeguards on Fannie and Freddie. The same family of Ayatollah’s that voted for bigger government and more debt. The same family of Ayatollah’s that has not done a damn thing about the looming train wrecks of Social Security and Medicare.
Also – the Ayatollah’s treatment of Palin (a member of the “Walmart” GOP constituency) … proves to me that they don’t care about working men and women who have been voting Republican. Sarah Palin and Todd made $130,000 in 2006 and this puts her in MY Socio-Economic group. I don’t expect the Ayatollah’s to kow-tow to her or treat her like a Queen – but considering the fact that she is talented and liked by the base – yet they continue to trash her …
That tells me they not only disdain Palin …
They disdain all Walmart Republicans … like me.
I’m sorry – it’s folks like us that make the GOP a major party. If they’re going to crap on us – if they are going to ignore our wishes …
Time for another party.
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM
step away from the pipe.. and slowly put it down.
You have done gone over the edge…. I doubt your sanity will return!
upinak on July 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Instead of learning about a strategic way to force North Korea’s hand, she was instead warming trig’s milk or reading a stupid bedtime story to piper.
Face it, The downfall of Palin is those 5 children and especially bristol.
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:22 PM
What’s Obama’s excuse?
Y-not on July 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM
You are trash. I was actually on your side, but you have proven that you have no class, no brains, and very little empathy. Congratulations.
And since you are from NYC, why don’t you take the dime I’m sending you and go get a rim job from your neighbor down the street.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Karl Rove would do.
I have to ask – have you read the book, or just seen the movie?
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Bristol has caused so many problems for Palin…
It’s not Palin’s fault… It’s those annoying kids she has…
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM
I’m all for a 3rd party. Real change has to start somewhere. If a real conservative party would be formed and could peal away some high profile congressmen for 2010 like Ron Paul and Jim DeMint and a couple governors like Jindal and Perry it could gain some legs for 2012. I’m sick of Republicans like Lindsey Graham and Charlie Crist.
cadams on July 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Boy, am I gonna be hated for this:
In a way, there’s a certain sad truth in what you say. Sarah Palin, unlike, say a Hillary Clinton or a Sonia Sotomayor or a Michelle Obama, neglected to pursue an affirmative-action Ivy-League education and acquire a politician husband who could go out and steal enough money to provide for nannies (legal or otherwise) and tony private schools so that she could pursue her own single-minded political career unencumbered by the cares of every-day mommylife.
That’s one of the reasons real people love her.
And I do love her for that, too.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Gosh, I am humbled and chagrined by your thoughtful, dispassionate answer.
And by the way, I don’t live in NYC anymore. I live in Marin County, California, which is even richer than NYC, so rim jobs here probably cost more than the mortgage payment on your double-wide.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Up to this post, I thought you were just a sort of hopeless, misguided sort.
Now, I find you’re despicable.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:30 PM
You would know.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Nice one Hornet- kind of a ju-jitsu move there.
Stylish!
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:33 PM
By the way, how much does one cost in the Great Heartland?
Or do you just barter one for an oil change?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Thank you.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
So does your mother, massrighty.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Are you looking to move your business, gun?
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Uh, oh, massrighty…they don’t understand irony out in doublewide land
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Nope. not even close.
Stay classy, though!
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Good questions. I do hope SCOTUS overturns Roe, leaving states to decide abortion, so the president’s position matters. It also matters in decisions about federal funding of abortions (foreign and domestic) and abortion legislation (that can be signed or vetoed).
Not every state would keep abortion legal if given the choice.
But long-term, my hope is not so much in a political solution as it is in the conscience of the nation changing on abortion, as the conscience of Britain changed about slavery in the 1800s.
jazz_piano on July 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM
No, thanks, pal. I get oil changes free for the first 50,000 miles.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Outstanding response, thank you. You’re a very reasonable, thoughtful guy.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Why do you think she hates working in the state’s capital?
Don’t you think the fact that it takes her 4 hours and a half to get back to home to her children..
Don’t you think she is hurting inside after watching her daughter be mocked and joked about nationwide and having her daughter’s ex talk about sex on some black bimbo’s show?
It’s Bristol’s fault that Palin is probably suffering from depression and the stress got to her.
It’s all Bristol’s fault for being a fill in the blank..
You are the Governor’s daughter and you should know better.
Palin is the victim in all of this.
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I don’t want my leaders to be “victims”. I want them lay waste to the opposition.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Look at the poll. Palin gets 70%.
More proof that she will just FADE. /sarc
Geochelone on July 13, 2009 at 8:44 PM
You are again trying to hide behind make-believe concern in order to advance your crass talking points.
Tool.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Holy Crap! I go grab a bite and a sixer across the street, come back and find this thread has busted through 700 comments!
I think the jury is in. Whatever label she chooses, Palin 2012 will craete no-buzz-what-so-ever! Absolutely none!
I liked Palin, I didn’t think a hot commodity(well OK, yeah physically I did) but I think my friends on the left, which is the bulk of ‘em, had better start to worry!
On second thought I they probably already are by the level of their vehemence to anything she does.
If she can keep being in the spotlight like this creating this maelstrom of fervor, I’m all in, IF!
Archimedes on July 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM
FIFY
Knucklehead on July 13, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Damn! I gotta improve my typing skills!
Archimedes on July 13, 2009 at 8:47 PM
She does seem to bring out passionate defenders, and vile, ignorant trolls, in large numbers.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM
We’re both right.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 8:50 PM
May I ask in what state you hold your license as a psychologist? And what personal interaction you’ve had with Sarah Palin on which to base your diagnosis?
jazz_piano on July 13, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Hey, don’t forget us passionate, defensive trolls!
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM
There is NOTHING like a Palin thread to bring out the trolls and tools.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I think any mother would be hurt inside if their young children are being attacked or mocked on national tv.
This kind of stuff hit sarah hard in the heart..
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Not arguing that, just wondering on what evidence, and based on what expertise, you diagnosed her with depression.
jazz_piano on July 13, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I’m thinking you’re an expert on “rim jobs”. MIRITE? ;)
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Yep, they come staggering out of their double-wides like one of those zombie movies.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I am basing my assumption on all the present facts that have come to light after this resignation.
It’s Bristol fault and Sarah probably feels guilty..
If I were the governor’s daughter I would make sure that I were an angel… Bristol was immature and in result she embarrassed her mother.
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM
YOU need to be working harder, Gun, if you’re going to be giving away rim jobs for the price of an oil change.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Another illiterare weighs in. You failed to parse the sentence, child…look again, there is the modifier “probably”, which is indicative of (a) complete ignornance of the direct object or (b) uncertainty.
Now, go back and play with your pop-up book.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
You should get out of your peanut butter castle in your mom’s basement and come play with us there – teach us your “rim job” skills! LOL – I still can’t believe you typed that!
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
This is either a joke or comes from one who is politically uninformed. I continue to hear the media use the name of Fred Malek as some kind of great “Kingmaker”, but in reality Fred is a used to be. Fred doesn’t do antyhing much anymore. Even while sitting in Virginia he has done very little in the Virginia Governor’s race. He’s a big talker and does very very little. I can name 20 people who can raise more money in one day than Fred can in 2 weeks. Sarah definitely does not need Fred Malek!!! What a joke.
jmell7 on July 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Another patented knee-slapper from the Great Heartland. How did your daughter happen to procure that re-built starter for you ‘72 Malibu?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I’d not call you a troll, GTL;
You have been a little over-the-top tonight, though, and should probably dial it back a little.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM
What the heck is a Honda V65? Just out of curiosity?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM
She took lessons from the best rim jobber in the country, Guntotinglibertarian. Thanks, Gun. You should charge for those services. Might pay for your glass house.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Good grief, this thread is a total waste of time.
3rd party nonsense that will never happen, and a pissing match about double wide trailers and a rim job.
‘72 Chevys ain’t worth nothin’ but scrap metal.
‘70 Chevelle SS, now that’s a machine to lust for.
Any self respecting redneck knows that.
Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Don’t let you mind wander – it’s far too small to be let out on its own.
Focus your arguments man … remember – we’re lowly rednecks who don’t know anything about rim jobs – like you do. :D
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM
I know, Mass, thanks. It all started with that fool from Alaska. Sometimes I just have too much fun here.
Sometimes blogging is like a bar fight, but without all the beer and blood, ya know?
It’s interesting, though, that the really ugly stuff seems to happen on only two types of threads: Palin and abortion.
And unfortunately, my viewpoint on both issues seems to be counter to the HA mainstream.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Thanks Brian, you summed it up. LMAO!
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
The STD meds make them irritable out there in the smog choked syph belt.
Geochelone on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
It’s a redneck bike that sports 110 horses at the rear wheel. Nothing you’d be interested in – the kind of bike you’d find parked in front of a double-wide.
Now get back to those rim jobs young man!
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Ah, it’s so touching that you took her to “take your daughter to work” day.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM
GTL is a Palin fan.
He’ll realize it later after he catches up and studies her and her past accomplishments and views on issues.
Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Gosh, sounds really impressive!! How many pot-bellied, tattoo’d ho’s can perch on one of those babies?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM
You`re just pissed cause you`re such a disappointment to your parents.
ThePrez on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Oh. So you’re what’s called a secular libertarian.
Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I think you should call your business…Guns, Libertarians, and rim jobs, Gun. Imagine the business you could procure if you told all those rednecks you had .45 ball ammo….you’d make a mint on your rim jobbin’.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
A ‘70 Cuda ain’t too shabby neither *wink*
Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Well – the lad possess a keen wit – but the lord has failed to bestow him the ability of dialog.
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Why, does your wife need a ride?
/I know, I councelled peace earlier, but I just.couldn’t.resist.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
He’s just sore, Sapwolf, because he sent $4,850 to her campaign. That’s a lot of rim jobs.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
I’m as free as a bird now
and this bird you’ll never change
Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Would you agree with me that Palin’s children will ultimately doom her in the long run?
She doesn’t have time to study up because of these stupid children…. What can she do? hire a baby sister…
I really don’t like Bristol neither… She set up an interview with fox without telling her mother. She told her to dump levi this idiot didn’t listen and look at what happen?
TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
It only has enough room on the rear seat for one or two corn-fed two-stoolers. But it’ll chase down any “rim jobbing” liberal on the freeway while fully loaded. Well – that’s not too hard to do since they all drive Prius and Volkswagen Beetles.
It’s pretty impressive.
What are you saddling up in these days? Still driving that purple PT Cruiser with the license plate “RMJOB” ???
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Never heard that term. But are u implying one cannot accept Christ and also let abortion be between another individual and God?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Hey, he’ll be fine after Sarah charms him with an irresistable tax cut.
:)
Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
They call me the breeze
I just keep on blowin’ down the road
I ain’t got nobody
I don’t carry me no load
Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM
You REALLY need to warn us!
*Wipes iced tea off monitor*
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Shake ‘n bake!
Brian1972 on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
I don’t think he pays taxes….his business if in the underground, like hookers and drug dealers.
How exactly does one pay taxes on rim jobs?
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Of course not – why – it was certainly possible to be PRO-Hitler and yet still leave his anti-Semitic genocidal agenda up to the judgment of God.
I mean seriously – Hitler made the trains run on time. Gotta have priorities – why bog yourself down in moral mush?
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Sure they can. It`s just that God won`t like the fact they killed a baby because it was inconvenient.
ThePrez on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I have little doubt that I would be delighted with most policies of a Palin administration.
I just doubt that she can win.
Feminists and single moms hate her. And the MSM has done a fabulous job of putting together the sorts of indelible memes that moron just love to parrot, endlessly: dumb beauty queen, wolf killer, I-can-see-Russia, $150,000 wardrobe, bible-thumper, creationist.
All unfair, even libelous. But morons love smirking while they say that crap…and they each have as many votes as you or I do.
I hope I’m wrong, but I’ve just been shocked to see the level of hatred a lot of women have for her. Way uglier than anything I ever saw for Reagan. Maybe even uglier than Bush Derangement Syndrome, because at least Bush got credit for keeping us safe for 8 years.
If she can turn that around, she’s a bona-fide political genius. We shall see.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM
I agree… like I said earlier:
I’m all for a Fiscal Con party… leave the issues that should be left to the states to the states. Abortion being one of them.
Bravo on your comment! I think you hit the nail on the head.
Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Well, I’ve never killed a baby; never would. But I am content to leave that between God and anyone who chooses that path. On the other hand, if my state could outlaw abortion that would be fine with me. I just don’t like it being a Federal issue. A Federal government powerful enough to outlaw abortion is powerful enough to outlaw any number of things.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM
ditto
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
No.
She can continue to balance family and work.
What happen? You lost the ability to construct a sentence, or punctuate. That’s what happen.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Hmmm … I doubt it … might have better luck there begging Obama for that bailout your state needs now.
Can you buy an AK-47 these days in Calli? Figured you might know. I have so many here in Louisiana I can’t stash anymore in my double wide. Have to hide some in my pickup and in my Party Barge down in the swamp. Man – beer, fat women, firearms, and some grilled gater is all you need for a good time boy.
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
A total, hopeless non-sequitor.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Witty comeback … I may have to grab a cup of coffee to keep from falling asleep. Come on – how about some more redneck insults – those were fun!
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Honda, I’ll probably pay for this in some way, but;
I put over 200K miles on a “purple” PT Cruiser.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Yeah, if you remove the pistol grip, modify the receiver, replace the magazine release with a “bullet button” and don’t own any magazines over 10-round capacity.
Clever bastards, these legislators.
At least the AK will still be insanely loud and wildy inaccurate, if that’s your cup of tea.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
While you all were thrashing each other over Sarah, I researched her August 8 Event at the Reagan Library, and GOT AN INVITE.
I will be there in the presence of our future, in the honor of Ronald Reagan, and share this moment.
PS – I really hope she doesn’t go third party, because I suspect it will be the classic lose-lose result. Just the nature of statistics. She has to swing the Republican Ship of State into formation.
Jimmy Doolittle on July 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I read the book not too long after I saw the movie for the first time — but that was about 25 years ago, and I’ve seen the movie 30 or 40 times since then, so all of my memories are about the movie. Re Karl Rove, he has a Hagen-ish look about him — doesn’t the conservative movement have any junkyard dogs like Bob Beckel or James Carville? At the risk of mixing my movie metaphors, a guy that understands that when they send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue? OK, while I’m on a roll, here’s a third movie metaphor: a guy like Geoffrey Rush’s Walsingham from Elizabeth. Probably the most apt of my three metaphors, seeing as we’re talking about the woman who would be queen — or at least kingmaker.
loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM
You must be shooting the Chinese versions … live a little – splurge for a Russian! A billion revolutionaries worldwide can’t be wrong!
There’s nothing like an AK or SKS as a swamp rifle … a well placed shot between the ear and jawline will drop a big boar in his tracks. Then all you gotta figure is how to haul that meat out without his buddies eating you in the process. But man – worth it! Nothing like grilling swamp hog.
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I never understood Rove’s reputation.
Under Reagan, we had massive landslides. Even Bush 1 cleaned Dukakis’ clock big-time.
Then, after the Clinton era, Rove is celebrated for squeaking out little, teeny cliff-hangers and we lose both houses. Where’s the beef?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Obama will be able to raise that much after a half hour with his sycophants in Hollywood.
Speedwagon82 on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Before this link degraded into insults and rim-job references, some of us were talking about third party potential.
I agree Jimmy D (nice handle, by the way;) it can’t be good. A third party must build from the bottom to succeed.
A set of carefully defined “first principals,” the ability to connect with people, and a solid organization will let a conservative take a leadership position with conservatives. This will bring the Republican party “back on board.”
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Well, how’s that working out for them in Afghanistan?
I’ll stick with my AR-15, HK-91 and my Mossberg 835.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Yeah, and how much do you think that ass-kissing bow to the Saudi king will be worth?
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Thanks. We gotta keep their memories and history alive. They were great men. Our current best are over in Afghanistan right now.
Yep, gotta win at the grassroots level for third paty to succeed. The vast electorate is so uninvolved, it will be very tough to get that majority attention.
I can never join these threads early enough. Living in CA, and doing real work always gets in the way.
Jimmy Doolittle on July 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Sorry, had to go and chase a coon from under my double wide and tell my daughter that she could NOT go to Gun’s Advanced RJ Studies…..
It is interesting to discuss 2012, but we really need to be concentrating on 2010. This is going to be the crown jewel, to reverse obama’s agenda and control the purse strings to pass lower taxes and get this country back on track.
I want to hear what Sarah’s ideas are, what her stance is on issues. I want her to raise the level of our candidates that we have to choose from. I want to hear conservative ideas and values, not mishy mashy, I am just mouthing the words so you will pick me….like we had on 2008.
But, 2010 looms large and the WH and Congress will be doing everything they can to “buy” their party seats with the stimulus/porkulus money. It will all be spent to make sure the dems keep their seats. We need to be able to fight against that.
HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Pfft! Hollywood guns!
You must have SOMETHING that works in the swamp without jamming no?
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM
In no particular order….
1. Re-read the book; it’s well worth it – I do, every 10 years or so.
2. Haven’t seen Elizabeth yet.
3. Looks aside, Rove’s instints appeared solid. He took George W. Bush through 2 elections that were thought to be un-winnable. Recall that Gore was always thought to be the front runner in 2000, and that Kerry looked like he would win a narrow victory in 2004.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM
I keep thinking we need a Contract With America, v2010. Problem is, the Ken dolls in the GOP seem to be incapable of communicating such a thing. And, frankly, they don’t have the stones that Newt and the others had back in 1994.
But clearly, just sitting around and rubbing our hands in gless as Obammy’s poll numbers drop is suicidal. You don’t win elections by saying, “See! We told you so, you dumb asses!”
Lately it seems like we’re going down the same road the Dems were in 2003-2007 when they just couldn’t wait for more bad news out of Iraq. It ill behooves us to sit around and say, “Man! I sure hope unemployment is up to 11% by year-end!”.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM
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