SarahPAC raises $733,000 in first six months of 2009; Update: Rush wonders about third-party run

posted at 3:30 pm on July 13, 2009 by Allahpundit

Actually, that’s only a five-month total since the PAC wasn’t up and running until the end of January. By comparison, Romney’s PAC raised $1.4 million through the end of May, but then fundraising is pretty much Mitt’s full-time gig these days and he already has a polished team around him left over from the primaries. Let’s see what happens in the second half when he and Palin go toe-to-toe.

The most intriguing detail from Politico’s report:

The majority of the money raised by SarahPAC so far has come in the form of “unitemized contributions,” meaning donations of less than $200 each. PACS are not required to name those small donors in their filings with the FEC. The remaining money came through more than 700 different $200-plus contributions made by donors from all around the United States.

According to its FEC records, SarahPAC’s biggest expenditure during the reporting period was the more than $103,000 it spent on EDonation.com, a Virginia-based firm that specializes in online fundraising.

Not surprisingly, it sounds like she’s going to follow The One’s lead and turn her support among the base into a cash machine via small donations. In fact, one of the co-founders of Team Sarah has an op-ed in the Examiner today urging her to do exactly that. The only problem: Obama didn’t raise most of his money that way. In fact, percentage-wise, he raised less from contributions under $200 than Bush and Kerry did in 2004. What made him a fundraising juggernaut capable of taking down the Clinton machine was the small money he raised combined with his ability to peel off big donors and big party names from Billary. If Palin runs a true outsider campaign in 2012 and tries to win on the strength of the base alone, she risks being overwhelmed by Romney vacuuming up the big money from party chieftains. Which is to say, even an outsider needs “insiders.” Help her, Fred Malek, you’re her only hope!

Exit question: I’m told Glenn Beck was yelling about a third-party on the radio this morning, a subject that’s been on my mind lately. So choose, bearing in mind that a split conservative vote greatly benefits The One. See, e.g., Clinton’s two victories.

Update: He knows third parties are sure losers but the thought of a “true conservative” faction clearly has him intrigued.

When I watched her speech, when she announced that she was leaving the governorship of Alaska, I didn’t hear the word Republican mentioned once. If I’m Sarah Palin and I’m conservative — Republican Party’s been just as mean-spirited to her as the Democrats have. A lot of them have, a lot of Republican media, a lot of the so-called conservative media have been. I don’t know if she’s going to campaign for conservative Democrats but if she believes that conservatism is the way to go. The one thing that does slightly worry me about this is this whole third party business. Yeah, it’s remote but it’s still a possibility out there and there are a lot of people pushing a third party and that’s — Third parties, they lose, they just lose. Third parties never end up with a congressional or Senate candidates. It’s just not the way to go. We’ll save that for later if that actually begins to transpire, we see it beginning to transpire.

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ted c on July 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM

NYT voters. (From the headline article earlier).

cs89 on July 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Gentlemen can agree to disagree. But on a site so heavily weighted to conservatives, if she cannot break over 80%, how is she supposed to attract enough independent voters to put her over the top?

I have no expectations about her political positions. I do not even dream of agreeing with her.

But I can tell you, I agree with about moving forward.

AnninCA on July 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM

And if that happens, we lose in 2012 because Independents make or break elections, and they loathe Palin.

But go ahead, vote for her. Let Obama have four more years.

Makes total sense.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Wrong-O! Indies are abandoning Obama. They are fiscal conservative types and will warm to Sarah over the next couple of years once Sarah has a chance to campaign against the extremism and statism of Obama.

Watch over the next couple of years to see if the Palin movement merges/overlaps with the Tea Party Movement. I had my Sarah poster with me mounted and carried around at a Tea Party and got some great comments. Most liked Sarah.

Outside of Gingrich, she is the only conservative in the GOP at the national level.

Voting for Romney is a vote for moderate to left. It would only slow down the inevitable drift to statism and soft tyranny.

Better to have Obama go a second term and rip the country apart so we can have a Red State Rebellion or a real coming to terms.

Being Dem light just doesn’t work. We tried that on more than a few occasions.

Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Welcome back from whale watching, Allah.

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM

And if that happens, we lose in 2012 because Independents make or break elections, and they loathe Palin.

But go ahead, vote for her. Let Obama have four more years.

Makes total sense.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Bingo. Conservatives just do not want to recognize that independents hold the whip hand. And every independent I’ve talked to HATES Palin. Stupid, yes – but the stupid have as many votes as you or I do.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Oh for the Love of God and all that is holy!

Allah did a specualtion peice on what you would do. Follow Sarah or not? This is a guesstimate not a freaking actual pol for a voting base.

Keep that in mind and try not to over reach.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM

As far as I’m concerned, the more nervous the Left, Press, and establishment Republicans are by her actions, the better. But I will say that if Palin’s intent is to generate national political attention, then she really needs to focus on teaching and speaking about hardcore conservative ideals. Not just “positions” and “issues” mind you., but the real meat and potato ideology responsible for our conclusions on those various issues and positions. Shoot, doing that alone will give her the look of a “third” party without formally breaking ranks. Approaching politics from a primarily ideological position rather than the focus grouping position is the real “outsider” approach. And it’s what many of us are starving for. She’s a good enough speaker to do it, but I just hope she’s also as well versed on conservatism to fully flesh it out speech after speech after speech.

Weight of Glory on July 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM

People keep saying that Palin is uninformed and needs to study, but what exactly is she uninformed about? What does she need to study on? Every time she makes a statement about something that Obama is doing, she clearly shows the conservative viewpoint. She also comes across as knowing a lot more than the Democrats who are now controlling this country.

Rose on July 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Fred had probably the support of 90% of the commenters on here and couldn’t even get past the first few Republican primaries.

amerpundit on July 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Yeah, and Fred really had the fire and charisma Palin has… give me a break.

davek70 on July 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM

But he is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more inteligent than The Quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I believe a number of Palin haters are pushing this third party business. What they don’t realize is that it will also hurt their own candidate. Just because a third party candidate can’t win, doesn’t mean conservative voters are going to flock to their candidate.

Blake on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Is Sara Quitter a real conservative?

We know that she’s pro-life and pro-gun but what about fiscal conservatism, she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. On foreign policy, she doesn’t know anything about the middle east, she knows nothing about Latin America or Europe or Africa or even Mexico and Honduras.
Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Yah, and someone who refers to Palin as “Sarah Quitter” is supposed to be taken seriously? Beat it, you five year old concern troll.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I am of the opinion that somebody who abandons her elected post, in the middle of her term, has forfeited any further confidence in the minds of the voters.

It reminds me of an adulterer. Once it happens, how in the world can his/her spouse expect it not to happen again? There will always be the uncertainty.

And I liked the Cuda.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM

What a bunch of Dumbasses the libs are.

What about Clinton and “O” Dumbo ears????
What about Mc Cain?????

They didn’t quit from the payroll they just quit doing their job!!!!

What about the L—– A– Mrs “O”

She quit and still got paid.

What about Kerry????
What about Bush???

People get your heads out it’s not only darke up there but it stinks also!!!!!!!!!

Rick007 on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Hmm, maybe the plan is that Palin is slated to replace Steele. That would actually make sense out of this Palin resignation.

Buddahpundit on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

If the Republicans can’t do better than Romney, we will get another 4 years of Obama anyway. Might as well invest in a third party. And if the message was framed correctly in a non harsh way, tolerant of opposing views as a Sarah Palin campaign most certainly would be, many conservative democrats and independents might just make up the difference.

mike_NC9 on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Am I naive for wondering about a Palin/Romney third-party ticket?

redwhiteblue on July 13, 2009 at 3:39 PM

It could only happen in the GOP. That would not be a bad team with Sarah at the top. It might even satisfy the pouty AP types. I’d rather see Sarah/Liz running together or Palin/Petreus.

Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 4:11 PM

People keep saying that Palin is uninformed and needs to study, but what exactly is she uninformed about? What does she need to study on? Every time she makes a statement about something that Obama is doing, she clearly shows the conservative viewpoint. She also comes across as knowing a lot more than the Democrats who are now controlling this country.

Rose on July 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I can’t imagine anybody being more uninformed or unprepared than the Socialist, community organizer. And look where that got him.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:11 PM

No, that’s a mistake by CQ. See, e.g., this report in WaPo in March noting that Romney had already raised $870,000 this year. I think the $404,000 figure is supposed to be his June total.

Ahh, thanks for the clarification. :)

Kirin on July 13, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Keep that in mind and try not to over reach.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM

With all respect, we’re discussing a failed VP candidate’s prospects for forming a third party for the presidential election 40 months away.

We’re already overreaching.

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Hmm, maybe the plan is that Palin is slated to replace Steele. That would actually make sense out of this Palin resignation.

Buddahpundit on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

My wife was wondering that last night. Steele has only been marginally effective at heading the GOP. True, donation $$$ are up, but what else? Steele has been pwned a few times in national interviews, changed his statements and been made to look like a fool.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM

If the Republicans can’t do better than Romney, we will get another 4 years of Obama anyway. Might as well invest in a third party.

mike_NC9 on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

With faux-conservatives liek Romney or Huck as the nominee, the party is essentially dead. Might as well run Sanford/Foley.

Norwegian on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Wrong-O! Indies are abandoning Obama. They are fiscal conservative types and will warm to Sarah over the next couple of years once Sarah has a chance to campaign against the extremism and statism of Obama.

Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Keep telling yourself that. Ignorance is bliss, right?

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

AnninCA on July 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I’m with you, Ann.

Left the Donks on 9/12/01.

Gave the GOP 7 1/2 years. (Thanks to W!)

Romney? Huck? T-Paw? Ya, sure. Hello, Whigs.

Don’t see a future for the Republicans without Sarah Palin.

A 3rd party is fine by me.

Bruno Strozek on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I think it’s naive to cling to the two party system without a strategy for retaking the GOP.

I supported the GOP for decades, but I don’t see any signs that the Party leadership has any interest in listening to its constituents. Or, perhaps it’s just that the Party leadership’s constituents consist of folks intent on holding power whatever the costs. Face it, the Party leaders supported Specter ’til the bitter end. It was the rank and file Republicans that drove him out of the GOP, not the leadership.

Y-not on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Rick007 on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

You imbecile. My post applies to everybody who fits the pattern. However, you imbecile, this thread was about Sarah Palin. Thus, my post about Sarah Palin.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

There already IS a third party. I’m one. Just doesn’t have a name or organization yet….

CC

CapedConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Hmm, maybe the plan is that Palin is slated to replace Steele. That would actually make sense out of this Palin resignation.

Buddahpundit on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I don’t think they’ll have her. They made as much of their opinion of her from that Couric interview as the Dems did.

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM

With all respect, we’re discussing a failed VP candidate’s prospects for forming a third party for the presidential election 40 months away.

We’re already overreaching.

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Um no Mad. You are going off a peice that Allah wrote up concerning “IF” Palin went third party via a poll.

Other then the SarahPac.. this is nothing but a specualtion peice.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM

If the Republicans can’t do better than Romney, we will get another 4 years of Obama anyway.

I have big reservations about Romney, but I believe he has a much better chance of wooing independents than Palin.

He sure looks a lot better after 6 months of Obammy.

Problem is…what about the Mormon issue? (Shhhh…I know we’re supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist, but it does.)

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Conservatism is a winner! The GOP wants to remain as losers, and Sarah won’t be a part of that. She is a winner. If Lindsey Grahamnesty is the vote that brings her to a vote in the senate, boy is the GOP in a heap of trouble with us.

jencab on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Oh, please! It’s going to take a jimmah carter moment to unseat obammy in 2012 as it is. However, as history has taught us, every 8 years or so, the other party is elected to the WH. There is nothing independent about Independents. They are just sheep. Baaaaa.

Blake on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

the poll votes so far support my call for Romney/Palin ‘12

but I do really like Cheney/Cheney ‘12 “We find your lack of faith distrubing’ (stolen from Ace HQ comments :0))

Hey guys, Palin/Cheney or Cheney/Palin is a shoe-in! The libbies heads’ exploding would leave no opposition, not to mention seveal open seats in the house & senate.

Archimedes on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

There were 6 votes cast for Bozo. Anyone want to own up to that?

txag92 on July 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Could it be non-HotAir-registered voters? Do you need to be registered on this site to vote in Hot Air polls?

Nonetheless, there are probably 6 trolls here who could have been the 6 Obama voters.

UltimateBob on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I believe a number of Palin haters are pushing this third party business. What they don’t realize is that it will also hurt their own candidate. Just because a third party candidate can’t win, doesn’t mean conservative voters are going to flock to their candidate.

Blake on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Currently she is running at about 64% in the poll….

If we were half of the electorate, that would be about 32%.
Mitts running therfore in the low 20s…

So, I’ll posit the quesiton once again.

Would the hardcore GOP’rs, given these numbers, throw their support to Palin to keep Obama out of the Whitehouse again?

Or, would you choose PARTY of Philosophy? (as us Fiscal Cons and Libertarians have been asked to do election after election…).

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM (not only would we drain the GOP of its supporters, but we’ll also siphon off the Blue Dogs.)
wouldn’t that be the whole idea?

aceinstall on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Yes, lets get the GOP a nice squish as the nominee because we wouldn’t want the indies to run back into the arms of Ogabe.

Why is it that there is an automatic indicator that the indies will flock to the disaster which is the current administration again, what with the destruction they are creating in every sector of our nation?

It could be that those famed independents will say, “You know, Palin isn’t my first choice but this ahole Ogabe has just done too much damage.”

No no, that can’t be it, indies only go one way on Palin.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Has to be voting machine malfunction.

betsyz on July 13, 2009 at 4:02 PM

No, I’m sure we have at least 6 trolls, and that’s not even counting the thoughtful Democrats who post here.

Bad poll – many people wouldn’t support a third party – even if Palin was the candidate.

katiejane on July 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM

That’s the whole point of the poll, to test that theory.

There you go. Drop the Mitt crap. Drop the Obama crap.

Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM

OK, but we know for a fact that Obama will be the Dem candidate, and Mitt is certainly a contender for 2012, so what’s wrong with seeing how she’d fair that way?

And how is your poll any better?

Esthier on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Okay, we hear two things constantly:

1)People are leaving the Republican party in droves
2) Independents are the voters every successful candidate must reach

And one thing more recently:

1) People are identifying themselves more as conservatives

So, with three years left to go before the next presidential election, why should Sarah Palin strap herself to a dysfunctional and unprincipled Republican party?

Young people, who Obama carried by 65%, they are not attached to political parties …

BigD on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

There already IS a third party. I’m one. Just doesn’t have a name or organization yet….

CC

CapedConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

It’s called the Libertarian Party.

Our votes cost the GOP 3 Senate seats. We thought we were sending a message about conservative principles, but the Ken Dolls of the GOP were too arrogant to hear us.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

The face of the republican party was on Shep Smith an hour ago……Lindsey Graham. He is as bad as Chuck Schumer and a camera…and I don’t want this waste of skin, queer little tw*t representing me.
2008 and mccain was a nightmare….I don’t want to repeat it again, and I feel with the republicans cowering in the corner, we might end up with an ’08 battered retread like Huck or Romney, or another mccain type, say his girlfriend, Lindsey…..so, a third party CONSERVATIVE candidate that believes in the rule of law, no amnesty, the constitution, small government, lower taxes or flat/fair tax…..HAS MY VOTE!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Better to have Obama go a second term and rip the country apart so we can have a Red State Rebellion or a real coming to terms.

Being Dem light just doesn’t work. We tried that on more than a few occasions.

Sapwolf on July 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Wow. Just wow. Please God, tell me there are very few like you out there. You’re saying 7 1/2 more years of Obama is better than 3 1/2, and then Mitt.

Unreal.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Normally, third party would be out of the question, or simply a protest vote.

But Palin changes the rules. It’s not like anything we’ve seen before (or at least, in a LONG time).

The thing that makes it feasible is the timing of the resignation. I’ve been pondering this since July 3rd. I could only come up with two reasons for resigning so early (excepting a scandal, which I refuse to believe).

1) Needs time to make a difference with the GOP for the 2010 elections. To support other candidates, and to support a platform alternative to Obama.

2) Third Party. The only way to make a substantial run as a third party is to devote some real time and effort to it. To ramp up the Tea Party movement, to make a case for who she really is (vs. the caricature on the MSM), to raise funds, to get endorsements from like-minded people with clout, and to raise funds. That would take three years.

I’m just saying, it’s possible because of the timing. And it’s not inconsistent with what she said she would do.

connertown on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Um no Mad. You are going off a peice that Allah wrote up concerning “IF” Palin went third party via a poll.

Other then the SarahPac.. this is nothing but a specualtion peice.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM

…and how many people on this site are going right along with it?

It may be speculation on Allah’s part, but quite a few here already accept it as “the ONLY way”. It’s serious discussion, which it shouldn’t be. There shouldn’t even be serious discussion of her potential as a presidential candidate until she’s done something more substantial than quit as governor.

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Bingo. Conservatives just do not want to recognize that independents hold the whip hand. And every independent I’ve talked to HATES Palin. Stupid, yes – but the stupid have as many votes as you or I do.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM

+100

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Yah, and someone who refers to Palin as “Sarah Quitter” is supposed to be taken seriously? Beat it, you five year old concern troll.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter. She couldn’t take the heat, she cannot be President. A President can’t just be a coward and quit everytime there’s a crisis or everytime someone make an unfair attack on you.

Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

This two-party state is a binary system inexorably locked together by their gravity, inevitably spiraling inwards to obliteration.

When you see the opportunity to launch into the void, if you think you’ve got the escape velocity, do it. Fortune favors the bold.

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Problem is…what about the Mormon issue? (Shhhh…I know we’re supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist, but it does.)

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I don’t thing anyone gives a flying flip about his religion. Look, American just elected a president that sat in a church (albeit not weekly) of a preacher that did truly preach racism and hate. The Mormonism is a non-issue……..unless you are Mike Huckabee. As I mentioned earlier, Mitt has a perception problem. How will he reach out to Joe Sixpacks, women and minorities? He will be painted as a younger version of McCain, an old rich white male. What would be Mitt’s strategy for taking on Obama?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Meanwhile, back in the real world, McCain supported Palin on Meet the Press.

I note this is not a thread here. *haha

AnninCA on July 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM

You missed it. *haha

http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=45551

JiangxiDad on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter
Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

That’s the simple-minded spin on recent events, yes.

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

People keep saying that Palin is uninformed and needs to study, but what exactly is she uninformed about? What does she need to study on? Every time she makes a statement about something that Obama is doing, she clearly shows the conservative viewpoint. She also comes across as knowing a lot more than the Democrats who are now controlling this country.

Rose on July 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM

That’s a euphemistic way of saying she’s dumb. Basically the gameplan of the left is to ridicule and demean her(as well as her family) to the point where they hope no one takes her seriously.

It’s sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy strategy. Keep saying she’s an idiot hick and people will either believe it or be too afraid to argue otherwise. It worked for the most part with Bush. Only problem is that Palin seems like 1000 times the fighter Dubya was. Plus Bush was the incumbent President which made him an easier target. It’ll be harder for the left to make everyone hate Palin when Obama and his party are running the show.

Doughboy on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

There is nothing independent about Independents. They are just sheep. Baaaaa.

Blake on July 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM

+Infinity!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

…and how many people on this site are going right along with it?
MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Mad, how many people are stopping, looking around at the big picture and taking it all in?

Not many.. Media, Pundits and Radio Talk are are fulling it.

Am I wrong? I sure am not speculating on it.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Hey guys, Palin/Cheney or Cheney/Palin is a shoe-in! The libbies heads’ exploding would leave no opposition, not to mention seveal open seats in the house & senate.

I must admit, the thought of a Palin/Cheney run is oh so tempting, mostly for the very reason you cited. hehehe

Kirin on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

A President can’t just be a coward and quit everytime there’s a crisis or everytime someone make an unfair attack on you.

Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Good to see you back, getaclue.

To address your question, would you resign your position if staying meant your family would be pushed to financial ruin? That is what is happening with the baseless ethics complaints.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Wow. Just wow. Please God, tell me there are very few like you out there. You’re saying 7 1/2 more years of Obama is better than 3 1/2, and then Mitt.

Unreal.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

You’re ignoring the fact that Mittens would never get elected in the first place. He is guaranteed to lose states like Georgia & the Carolinas to Obama, since a huge number of Southern Baptists would rather stay home.

Norwegian on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

+Infinity!

HornetSting on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Interesting.. I am an independant. You don’t see me “following”. As others are.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

The only thing this poll proves is no one likes Mitt or Obama. :)

Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I still don’t see how Sarah is uninformed. I’m sure she knows about the two wars. I’m sure she is aware of what is happening in Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. And isn’t it the policy of Presidents to have cabinet members to fill in the details about ongoing situations? Sarah has what conservatives are looking for, wisdom based on her conservative, pro America views. She would never sell out America just to make Europeans like us. She would never incur the kind of debt that Obama has no problem with. She is not likely to destroy private business by saddling them with higher taxes. So why call her uninformed?

Rose on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Why is it that there is an automatic indicator that the indies will flock to the disaster which is the current administration again, what with the destruction they are creating in every sector of our nation?

It could be that those famed independents will say, “You know, Palin isn’t my first choice but this ahole Ogabe has just done too much damage.”

No no, that can’t be it, indies only go one way on Palin.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Because independents, by definition, are STUPID. They always say, smugly, that they don’t vote for ideology, they vote for the best candidate.

If a person cannot make up their minds between statism and conservatism, he is an idiot. And he will vote based upon his feeling about the candidate.

And a large majority of independents feel nauseous when they think about Palin. Their minds are made up. There is nothing she can do to bring them around.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I don’t thing anyone gives a flying flip about his religion.

u talking rep. primaries or gen’l election? diff. kettle of fish

JiangxiDad on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

That’s the simple-minded spin on recent events, yes.

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Just another spin in the political game of chance.

LTNS BTW.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

You imbecile. My post applies to everybody who fits the pattern. However, you imbecile, this thread was about Sarah Palin. Thus, my post about Sarah Palin.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Hmmm
Your heads so far up you can kiss your adams apple

Rick007 on July 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

We know that she’s pro-life and pro-gun but what about fiscal conservatism, she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. On foreign policy, she doesn’t know anything about the middle east, she knows nothing about Latin America or Europe or Africa or even Mexico and Honduras.
Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Are you asking this in relation to her personal ideologies, or in comparison to your Messiah?

what about fiscal conservatism

Obama is hardly the conservative that he touted himself to be (no taxes for anyone making less than $250,000/yr – yeah right)

she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it

Obama and Biden BOTH voted for the bridge to nowhere – but you fail to mention that spending faux pas.

On foreign policy, she doesn’t know anything about the middle east, she knows nothing about Latin America or Europe or Africa or even Mexico and Honduras.

How many links would you like referencing Obama’s apology tour and his support for thugs and dictators? Photo ops with murderers? Do you call THAT a good foreign policy?

VibrioCocci on July 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM

A combo of Gingrich & Palin would do the job as well and the chemistry of two i sprobably better.

Archimedes on July 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Interesting.. I am an independant.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I’m an ornery git. Join my crowd. We drink more.

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

u talking rep. primaries or gen’l election? diff. kettle of fish

JiangxiDad on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Either one. It would take a slimy politician to attack another candidate’s God. Attacking faith is the lowest of the low. I would think we could rise above that…….but then there was Mike Huckabee.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

To be fair, the real comparison should be between Romney’s online contributions versus Palin’s, because she did not do any other fundraising. As a Republican fundraiser I can damn sure tell you that I could guarantee Palin $100,000 to do any event in any state. She is the only Republican who could come close to this…yet she has only traveled outside of Alaska 4 times. So until she decides to actually do national fundraising, this comparison is bogus and dishonest.

jmell7 on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Wow. Just wow. Please God, tell me there are very few like you out there. You’re saying 7 1/2 more years of Obama is better than 3 1/2, and then Mitt.

Unreal.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

People said the same of McCain.

Which really points to the need to nominate someone who won’t have to convince his own party to get to the polls.

Esthier on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

To address your question, would you resign your position if staying meant your family would be pushed to financial ruin? That is what is happening with the baseless ethics complaints.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

And I’m not understanding this. If these “ethics complaints” emanated from her actions as the Governor, and were within the scope of said position, why is she not being defended by the AG’s office? How could she be personally responsible? What happened to the immunity from personal liability that usually flows with public office, and conduct within the scope thereof?

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

LOL….the Palin fans, the Mitt fans, the Mitt is a cult fans, and Palin is a quitter fans forget the most important aspect of the 2012 election….where will Barry be? Third party, or not, Palin could still axe Barry as much as she could axe Mitt. Then again, she just might pull it off.

All depends on where Barry lands. Is he bunkered down with 20% unemployment and 15% inflation? Much depends on this so called Goliath and what the hell he considers acceptable risk.

Limerick on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

LTNS BTW.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

?

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Wow. Just wow. Please God, tell me there are very few like you out there. You’re saying 7 1/2 more years of Obama is better than 3 1/2, and then Mitt.

Unreal.

nickj116 on July 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Only if you are forced to live in Allah’s Bizzaro World where Palin runs as an independent. This will never happen. Rush mentioned it because people mentioned it.

portlandon on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I am an independant.
upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

You know, upinak, you have your own charm, and I know you don’t like spelling, but this one is pretty bad.

BigD on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

?

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Ok.. internet lingo. Long Time No See. LTNS.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Nice rigged poll. Define the question (as in, in this case, LIMIT the question), define the answer.

Some people would rather lose pouting in a corner.

Well one thing we do know — that strategy will definitely work.

IndieDogg on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter. She couldn’t take the heat, she cannot be President. A President can’t just be a coward and quit everytime there’s a crisis or everytime someone make an unfair attack on you.
Sarah Palin is a quitter.
Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Yeah sure, did you even listen to her speech? The people of Alaska were getting raped by litigation fees as their governor was dragged into court on the stupidest of reasons, if anything she did them a favor. Her own money had been spent to the tune of $500k for the same reason.

Now I know that you, an obvious paragon of fiscal discipline, would naturally keep fighting and burying the taxpayers of your state just so that nincompoops who can’t bother to read a resignation transcript wouldn’t call you a “quitter”.

Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

You know, upinak, you have your own charm, and I know you don’t like spelling, but this one is pretty bad.

BigD on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I never said I was prefect.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter. She couldn’t take the heat, she cannot be President. A President can’t just be a coward and quit everytime there’s a crisis or everytime someone make an unfair attack on you.

Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

I see you got the Axelrod talking point this morning; here is a question for you, luv, give me three things you don’t like about obama

runner on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Rick007 on July 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I’m not worried about you. There is a lot of personal growth after 5th grade.

Good luck, little boy.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

The idea of Palin heading, and winning with a third party can easily work. You only need to connect the dots.

#1 Except for the country club RINOS, the Republican Party brand name is as dead as the Whig name.

#2 Palin is one of the true politicians that transcend the norm. She plays to the idea of grass roots. She WILL pick up the independents as they’re easily lead by anything shiny and the idea that someone can win outside the Democrat or Republican Party appeals to them. Heck, they’ve been preaching that their whole lives.

#3. The troubles in America will be epic due to the Communist President we have now. Not 6 months in and they’re over-reaching. The DEMS are pushing every hair brained idea they’ve had and it’s going to cost them BIG in voter back lash as they feel the taxes going up, inflation rise, and consumer confidence continue sliding.

#4.Government is getting VERY anti-God.When there’s times of trouble, and America has been turning from God,we’ve usually had a religious revival of sorts which will play well for Palins crowd.

#5. The Republican Party is trotting out left over losers like Mitt & Huck who are about as exciting to watch as watching paint dry.No excitement means no money. And it’ll mean.again, just like with Mc Cain, no win.

Jeff from WI on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Interesting… I’m registered Independent.

My 18 year old twins, both Fiscal Cons are registered independent.

And My 82 year old Mom, is registered Republican, even though she no longer really follows politics…

There are MANY Fiscal Con Libertarian Indpendents out there… who would not join the Libertarian party because teh Lib party is full of morons.

You’re rhetoric is painting with way too broad of a brush.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Ok.. internet lingo. Long Time No See. LTNS.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Self-imposed exile ;)

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Seems to me that was rather a stacked poll (telling us that third parties would be a sure vote for Obama and then forcing the vote for Palin to be third party vote), but Sarah is winning it anyway. You go, girl!
I voted for Romney in the 2008 primary even though by the time the vote got to Oklahoma it was largely over (why not a single-day primary? Hello?) But compared to Sarah, he’s not even close. He may have the big money, but Sarah would have the big crowds! Now if he wants to be VICE president for Palin, he’d have my vote.

Christian Conservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Self-imposed exile ;)

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Stop hiding at Manly’s…

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

We know that she’s pro-life and pro-gun but what about fiscal conservatism, she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. On foreign policy, she doesn’t know anything about the middle east, she knows nothing about Latin America or Europe or Africa or even Mexico and Honduras.
Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Are you asking this in relation to her personal ideologies, or in comparison to your Messiah?

what about fiscal conservatism

Obama is hardly the conservative that he touted himself to be (no taxes for anyone making less than $250,000/yr – yeah right)

she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it

Obama and Biden BOTH voted for the bridge to nowhere – but you fail to mention that spending faux pas.

On foreign policy, she doesn’t know anything about the middle east, she knows nothing about Latin America or Europe or Africa or even Mexico and Honduras.

How many links would you like referencing Obama’s apology tour and his support for thugs and dictators? Photo ops with murderers? Do you call THAT a good foreign policy?

VibrioCocci on July 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM

And who was talking about Dumbo?….Palinistas are just cultist-crazy people.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

here is a question for you, luv, give me three things you don’t like about obama

runner on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

oooh, oooh, oooh, Mister Kotter, I have one!

His golf swing.

Y-not on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

And who was talking about Dumbo?….Palinistas are just cultist-crazy people.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Who was talking about Obama?

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter
Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Right. Obama first said he would not run for president and that he would not QUIT his position as a JUNIOR SENATOR with no experience with anything other than voting present or going with the flow.

In 2004: Calling it as “a silly question,” Sen.-elect Barack Obama (D-IL) pledged “he would resist any overtures to run for president or vice president before the end of his six-year term as a U.S. senator,” the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

Said Obama: “I was elected yesterday. I have never set foot in the U.S. Senate. I’ve never worked in Washington. And the notion that somehow I’m immediately going to start running for higher office just doesn’t make sense.”

And then he went back on his word.

At least he’s consistent about his promises, right?

VibrioCocci on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Mad, how many people are stopping, looking around at the big picture and taking it all in?

Not many.. Media, Pundits and Radio Talk are are fulling it.

Am I wrong? I sure am not speculating on it.

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

I’m not sure what big picture you’re talking about. About Sarah Palin? About conservatism? About the GOP? They’re all in limbo right now, and nothing with any meat to it is give us any insight into what’s going to start happening in a year and a half.

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

LOL, You are moron who touches little kids.

PEDOPHILE!

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

All depends on where Barry lands. Is he bunkered down with 20% unemployment and 15% inflation? Much depends on this so called Goliath and what the hell he considers acceptable risk.

Limerick on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

All this is inside baseball anyway. Look back to every election cycle since 1948, and the incumbent has only lost when economic times are bad. (Carter 1980, Bush 41 1992)Given that 2012 will likely a bad year economically, Obama will be weak.

People tend to forget how much Reagan was ridiculed by the MSM and RINOS back in the late 70s. “Bedtime with Bonzo”, lightweight, etc. However, the American Electorate didn’t care and voted him in anyway.

Norwegian on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

+1

Y-not on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

And who was talking about Dumbo?….Palinistas are just cultist-crazy people.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

And packing heat. You forgot “packing heat”.

Crazy people packing heat. That’s who you are insulting, right?

connertown on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Stop hiding at Manly’s…

upinak on July 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Too much stars’n'stripes for my taste….here’s not much better, but at least it’s familiar territory

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

LOL, You are moron who touches little kids.

PEDOPHILE!

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2009 at 4:28 PM

WTF?

MadisonConservative on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Palinistas are just cultist-crazy people.

you need to contact napolitano, then and report these hooligans

runner on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

This two-party state is a binary system inexorably locked together by their gravity, inevitably spiraling inwards to obliteration.

When you see the opportunity to launch into the void, if you think you’ve got the escape velocity, do it. Fortune favors the bold.

LimeyGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:18

Bravo sir! Well put indeed. This beiing a conservative site, as am I albeit an atheist one, I am sure I’ll get an ear full for this, but the meek inherit nothing!

Archimedes on July 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

And I’m not understanding this. If these “ethics complaints” emanated from her actions as the Governor, and were within the scope of said position, why is she not being defended by the AG’s office? How could she be personally responsible? What happened to the immunity from personal liability that usually flows with public office, and conduct within the scope thereof?

OhEssYouCowboys on July 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Under the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics, the Attorney General does the investigation when complaints are received.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Going into the 2010 mid-terms, a third party is not a logical direction to go. But one thing Palin could do more effectivily than almost anyone else is to form a coalition of conservitive support for conservitive issues and support for candidates of all parties that will represent the conservitive values of those issues. For example, I have seen Democrate candidates that are stonger on second amerndment rights than some Republicans. I have voted for issues myself and would do so again. Sara Palin could have an historic impact on the elections of 2010 if she were to use her star power for issues instead of parties.

MikeA on July 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM

You’re rhetoric is painting with way too broad of a brush.

Romeo13 on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Nope, you either stand for something on a consistent basis or you’re a moron. What is it? You’re for fiscal responsibility one day …but maybe not the next? You’re for a strong national defense one day…but you really, really like Candidate A’s stance on abortion, even though he is clearly not a champion of national security?

It’s simple: choose statism or freedom. Otherwise, please stay home and watch Oprah on election day.

guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Didn’t she QUIT?…If you quit you are a quitter. She couldn’t take the heat, she cannot be President. A President can’t just be a coward and quit everytime there’s a crisis or everytime someone make an unfair attack on you.

Sarah Palin is a quitter.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

I see you got the Axelrod talking point this morning; here is a question for you, luv, give me three things you don’t like about obama

runner on July 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

I can give you one million if you want to. People like you choose McCain over Romney, Thompson and Giuliani and now are acussing others of being troll. McCain-Palin is the reason why we got Obama.

Falz on July 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM

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