Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on July 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
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“Somebody wrote to me on vacation and said, you know, what do you think about Sarah Palin, you know, would you endorse Sarah Palin, blah, blah‑blah. No, never. Not because of any other reason than these people have betrayed me and what I believe and what they said they believe over and over and over and over again. I don’t believe any politician. However, with that being said if I had a gun to my head and had to pick one, I think I would pick Sarah Palin. Does that mean she is who she says she is? I don’t know yet. But I know she’s not who the media says she is. And who the media says she is is stupid…
Now we’re at the beginning of this shift of the paradigm, but I believe Sarah Palin understands that and she understands that the two‑party system, whether it’s in two weeks, two years, ten years, I don’t know, but the two‑party system either has to correct itself which would be a major purge, or the two‑party system is broken forever. I think she knows that… I could be wrong but I think she’s brilliant.”
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“Just 24 percent of those accept Palin’s explanation that she resigned because it was the right thing to do for Alaska. More than twice that percentage – 52 percent – cited her political ambition as the reason for her resignation…
Thirty-nine percent of those surveyed expect Palin to run for president in 2012, while 43 percent say she will not. If she runs, she’ll likely face widespread skepticism: As CBS News revealed Monday morning, just 22 percent say Palin has the ability to be an effective president. Sixty-five percent say she does not.”
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I like the way you think.
Maybe so, but to many it made her seem uninformed, if they assumed she really didn’t read anything.
To me, I don’t think one need read a newspaper to be informed, but I do think they need to read something.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Listen Palin fans, I usually get on here and ridicule her but it is time to speak straight. She had a lot of potential, good personality, photogenic, creates enthusiasm, raises money, and all that kind of stuff, but there is no there, there. What that person above tried to scrawl in that quotes is fair and fine, but Sarah shows little knowledge of the issues, and more knowledge in parables and cliches. There is going to be a segment across multiple factions in the party, not just squishy moderates, but limited government types that are asking “where’s the beef”? I don’t see it here, don’t waste your time on her because it won’t end well. This general store speak in place of conservative principles and knowledge of the issues is inadequate. If we are ever going to get accomplished what the person in the quote says about revamping the two party system, we need someone with a better grasp on the issues.
LevStrauss on July 14, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Drove thru Harlem one night with a black friend of mine on our way to a club. He was more afraid then I was. When we got to central park he saw an old lady on the sidewalk and said ” Thank God – white people”
DeweyWins on July 14, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I’m fairly certain he didn’t. I think he was on fairly recently but can’t remember when.
I realized that but someone asked about feuds here, so I talked about those.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:07 AM
How would a Sarah Palin Party differ from the current Republican Party? The platforms would be identical. A 3rd Party run by Palin would balkanize the conservative movement in the purest sense of the word, creating division along strictly cultural lines and without regard to political philosophy or policy goals.
RightOFLeft on July 14, 2009 at 12:07 AM
No way. That is funny. That’s okay, I don’t like going anywhere near El Paso, Tx, afraid to get a free ‘vacation’ across the border.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM
The platform would be the same with the difference being that she’d mean it.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Yeah, there are a few. Me, being as sweet and humble as I am, could not name one feud I am currently a party to…..
‘Ducks under desk’.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:09 AM
But that was my point. One is better kept abreast of things by going elsewhere for their news and getting information from others who scour for events. And I said, the MSM usually has the wrong interpretation for whatever is happening, anyway. The Iranian situation and Honduras were just two simple examples where fools would be wasting their time getting MSM reports. But that is par for the course, these days.
I agree, but I doubt it was her choice. She shouldn’t have given the MSM anything, as they are all slugs. But McCain never let her on Fox, either, so … It was a poorly run campaign. But, she lived through it and is thriving, now. Of course, the nation is suffering horribly, and perhaps fatally …
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 12:09 AM
In short, the story of your life. You can’t touch her. You never will.
littleguy on July 14, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Maybe I should read the GOP platform, because I can’t figure out what the official position is on size of gov’t, TARP, abortion, global
warmingclimate change, DOMA, etc.jazz_piano on July 14, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Fixed it for her.
guntotinglibertarian on July 14, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Which would be me :)
I read your earlier posts about people not liking you. Whats not to like? I love reading your posts for one. And believe you know what your talking about. your good in my book :)
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Palin should say: “We need to Trade Cap and Tax for Drill and Develop“.
And promote Jobs and Energy Independence, not Bigger Bureaucracies and Self-Destructive Taxation Policies.
Obumbles is over-reaching as the economy slides deeper toward inflation and stagnation.
Sarah should hit Barry weekly with his unending follies (Mirandizing terrorists; Bermuda vacations for Gitmo releasees, weakening the military, ad nauseam…) and emphasize American Exceptionalism not Obama’s Apologizism.
profitsbeard on July 14, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Any suggestions on who to support? Criticism is fine but give solutions. Please don’t say Jindal, he’s a trojan horse. Any Rhodes Scholar is bad news, ANY! It’s the best filter the elites have to weed out who is one of them.
True_King on July 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM
And I can completely see by many pro-Palin commenters like her, besides looks. It is because of the substance of their responses, the “she’s like me” supporter.
LevStrauss on July 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM
haha, your about as sweet and humble as a sledge hammer :D
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:14 AM
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:14 AMMaybe I should start running?
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
From what I can see, their official position is “we really don’t want to be seen as harshly criticizing our First Black President, until his polling numbers reall, really tank and then we’ll say, ‘See? We told you so,’ and you will vote for us.”
guntotinglibertarian on July 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Guess who said that…………….. ?
Seven Percent Solution on July 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
When’s the last time you saw anything other than CNN in an airport departure lounge?
guntotinglibertarian on July 14, 2009 at 12:02 AM
True… I got hte gym to put one tv on Fox and now most of them are on Fox and the Food Network…
I think I saw that clip on Hannity
CCRWM on July 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I would say that they just need to know. Of course, the idiot messiah and Crazy Joe would just make sh!t up – wrong sh!t. Of curse, they weren’t covered in their stupidity .. Heck, Biden even made a major mistake on the Constitutional role of the VP in the debate, and he had allegedly taught COnstituional Law.
Palin had too much integrity to even try to BS like that. I felt that she had to watch what she said to keep in sync with McCain, which was tough to do, as his positions were almost without rhyme or reason. I saw that holding her back. She couldn’t say what she thought. She had to say what he thought.
But I don’t think anyone would really care if someone said they get their news off a few web sites and by word of mouth of those around them. That’s the truly modern way, anyhow. Papers and magazines are for dinosaurs and people commuting on trains with nothing else to do.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM
LMFAO Great. Make them run or bike to making the perfect pasta dish!
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolf bane blooms and the summer moon is bright.
Lawrence Talbot on July 14, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Why do you neeeeeeeeed someone to support? We have time for the primaries, predetermined support makes no sense at this juncture, let them earn it. One problem that we always have as Republicans is that the loser of the last primary or the vp candidate is next in line, this succession of power that does us no favors. Sorry but consider the size of government when determining the success of this strategy. Hurrying for someone to get behind limits the number of horses in the race. If there were ever a time we should be sitting on our hands at picking candidates it is now. Prove it first.
LevStrauss on July 14, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Yes, way too many. Some that are completely unnecessary too. I tried being nice and humble, but that didn’t seem to work.
I found this:
http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/
Heh. Depending on who you ask, I’m a barely literate idiot who stalks some people and to others just doesn’t have the good sense to keep her opinions to herself. To some, I’m too prudish but to others I’m an internet trollop.
I love this site.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:21 AM
I didn’t miss these, but I DID miss Allah. Welcome back! :)
DrAllecon on July 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM
well geez.. i am either Sarah Palin’s Daughter. Or Sarah Palin herself! LMFAO!
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM
LMFAO Great. Make them run or bike to making the perfect pasta dish!
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM
I think it’s for motivation!
CCRWM on July 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM
:)
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM
if I burn this many calories.. I can eat THAT!
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM
anvil comes to mind. >:)
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Sheesh, why all the complaining about Allah. I like that he puts up Palin posts and most of them are honest lately…
CCRWM on July 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM
You were saying?????
portlandon on July 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Larry Talbot: “You don’t understand, every night when the moon is full, I turn into a wolf.”
Wilbur Grey (Costello) “You and twenty million other guys.”
DrAllecon on July 14, 2009 at 12:25 AM
The most important aspect of a candidate is not a grasp of the details, but whether one espouses the simple fundamentals of conservativism. If they are wedded to the foundations – truly – then proper governance and decent solutions for specific circumstances will be forthcoming. That’s how I view it.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 12:25 AM
I’m not so sure about that. I think it would be easy to exploit since so many sites are hyper partisan or at least could be spun that way, thus alienating voters.
I agree that papers are dying and won’t last, but I don’t think it’s yet time that a national politician can admit to only reading online publications.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Subjective opinion. .. There are tens of millions of people who think otherwise.
ASSIGNMENT FOR YOUR – Please compare and contrast Sarah Palin’s Energy plan with that of Ozeros. (Hint Obama’s big plan was blow your tires and bankrupt the coal industry)
FIFY
Well, Nostradomus or St. Malachi or whoever… It will certainly end better for us than a second term for jugears. What are you afraid of??
I’ve visited Williamsburg a couple of times now. What kicked off the revolution was a bunch of guys sitting in the taverns smoking their clay pipes, drinking ale and TALKING.. BTW She has shown more conservative values than most of the spineless cretins out there. Also, I am open to any other real conservative leaders that can win but they aren’t in the forefront now
Are you talking about one of the beltway elites?? Those people who paved the road for Ozero?
Yeah Lev, let’s run another Bob Dole. I respect the guy but he wasn’t a leader. Palin energized people from day one. Keep in mind that Palin-McCain looked like a winning ticket until the ‘financial crisis’ and McCain suspending his campaign. Dollars to Doughnuts Ozero knew it was coming ahead of time. Remember SOMEBODY dropped a half billion on the market causing the downward spiral. IOW, a much better than even chance the whole clusterfark was engineered not natural.
For a bonus please Compare and contrast Sarah Palin with Jumpin Plugs Biden. Biden is VP, the same position Palin was running for. Biden has shown himself to be a complete moron. Gee, we are sooooooo much better with him as a VP than that awful Sarah Palin.
bullseye on July 14, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Ha! Well, you know, they do both live in Alaska…
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Look who’s talking…
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:29 AM
People are happy to admit that they’re addicted to their blackberries. What does that mean? They have a paper open while they text something silly to someone insignificant? That doesn’t seem to bother anyone.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 12:30 AM
OH OH OH
BREAKING NEWS:
Judge looks into Obama’s BC!!!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103918
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Is hornetsting gone? Can I disarm my bear traps?
We all have our demons inside. I hate to say this but I will. I’m kind of a beta male.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Good Gracious, are you serious? You sound like someone who reads Time on Monday, Newsweek on Tuesday, listens to NPR on Wednesday, and tivos MSNBC every night. How many media fallacies can you write in one screed?
Let’s go one-by-one:
***1. “Where’s the beef” on issues, you say? Things that fiscal cons care about, you say?
-734 mile pipeline, $60 BILLION dollar deal with canada, pushed for and negotiated by… um… PALIN
-Alaskan government running a surplus, paying each citizen an extra, what, $1200 a year on top of the federal monies for the alaska native claims act
-Alaska has 0% state income tax and, i do believe, 0% sales tax
***2. “Sarah shows little knowledge of the issues”?
-How so? You mean because when Charlie Gibson asked her about the ‘bush doctrine’ (not a law, or codified, invented by charles krauthammer in the wapo) and said it was preemptive war (when it really means “either you are with us or against us”, ie, nations that harbor terrorists are treated as terrorists — good job charlie), and she didnt say “OMG!!1! Sorry we invaded Iraq yo!”?
-Or maybe you remember when she said “I see Russia from my house!”…. except… TINA FEY said that, not Palin. Palin pointed out (correctly) Alaska shares 2 international borders, more than any other state, and for the doubters that ‘russian border doesnt count’ yes you CAN see the russian diomede island from the american diomede island, as they are about 1 mile apart
-Well, maybe you mean the debate that she tanked in, I mean she winked right? huh. cause CNN’s poll said that 84% of voters saw palin BETTER after the debate. hmmmm..
-Well Strauss, maybe, just MAYBE you mean she lacks issues because of her voice (say goodbye kennedy clan), er, I mean her lack of masculine strength (whoops but you forgot about ’serious’ hillary) or her lack of experience (except, she has been an executive for 9? years compared to obama’s 0.4 years)
-Hmmm… well, darn it she must lack the issues because she can’t give any speeches (except for the VP speech seen by 40 million people, with improvised jokes about hockey moms to boot, or when she didn’t even open her mouth at the CPAC thing and had a crowd of followers) right?
-Well…. er… she doesn’t read enough! (so why was she reading the pulitzer-prize winning “Looming Tower”, THE book on who the #$%@ are all these muslim movements and how did they get here, from the 1950s to sept 10, 2001, on mccain’s campaign plane?;)
-Well…. um…. she thinks africa is a country!!! (this one is great. so dems (and apparently you) who NEVER BELIEVED A WORD of the mccain campaign in all of 2008, suddenly take the word of a defeated campaign strategist like absolute truth the second the election is over? it’s the same ’strange new respect’ the NYT gives to ‘anonymous mccain staffers’, when all during 2008 such staffers were seen as permanent liars. make up your mind whether such staffers, after suffering a horrible electoral defeat, are blaming sarah to get future jobs with romney, or are they actually thinking she’s stupid?)
I gotta hand it to ya LevStrauss: your constant posts here make me rethink MSNBC’s liberal bias, because CLEARLY at least ONE “REPUBLICAN” (you) is watching them day and night to get your talking points, so they must not be THAT entrenched with the DNC only. I apologize for calling MSNBC “MSDNC”. I will now call it “MS-DNC-RINO”
battleoflepanto1571 on July 14, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Sarah’s using this opportunity to nail Obama on cap-and-tax? My dream is coming true! :)
Roxeanne de Luca on July 14, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I was thinking it meant a little more than that. Plenty of people text all the time, but generally blackberries are more work related. Emails, internet browsing, random alerts, etc…
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM
It doesn’t matter. Sarah Palin could have listed Wash Times, the NY Times and the Moose Daily News and the MSM STILL would have attacked her……
They got it in their small minds that we needed a historic president, a liberal that would merge the two sides and heal the world….
What we got was an asshat that is destroying the country. The past doesn’t matter, they would have buried Sarah Palin regardless. The future is what matters, and right now, with the GOP cowering in the corner with their heads up their arses, the future is Sarah. If she so chooses to accept the challenge.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I’m right behind you.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:36 AM
OH SHI……
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:38 AM
If that’s true, and I’m not entirely convinced, that can easily change. I believe beta and alpha are states of mind. Confidence grounded in some sense of reality can make a world of difference.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Look, my last post was booted…probably payback for the Whale Watching, but here it is.
Sarah could have listed a long line of both liberal and conservative newspapers, a host of online sites, and books that she has read, and it wouldn’t have mattered.
The MSM wanted their historic leader story and they torpedoed Sarah for their own liberal motivations.
Now, they have their historic leader, the gov’t is moving in leaps and bounds to take over private industry, and all is fine with the media.
It doesn’t matter what happened in the past. We need to look to the future, and right now, with the GOP cowering in the corner with their heads up their arses and Lindsey Graham coming out as they face of the GOP, our future is in Sarah Palin. Until she says she wants amnesty, big govt, higher taxes, and for ponies and men to be able to marry, I will stand by her.
If she is wrong on the issues, it’s back to square one. But, right now, she is the leader of the pack.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM
The fates are against you, Watson.
By a man’s finger-nails, by his coat-sleeve, by his boots, by his trouser-knees, by the callosities of his forefinger and thumb, by his expression, by his shirt-cuff – By each of these things a man’s calling is plainly revealed. That all united should fail to enlighten the competent inquirer in any case is almost inconceivable.
semloh on July 14, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Collective opinion is not a good indicator of correct opinion. Do you have ears? Do you hear her speak? Some guy earlier gave me this Washington Post article, it gets a C+ in my book which passes barely. But when you compare that to what she says you can see that it was as believable as Rudy Giuliani’s foreign policy piece that was really written by a Podhoretz, it’s just not believable. The gap is too wide.
Now if this isn’t a bunch of steaming BS. Oh yeah, the founding fathers were a bunch of hillbillies, what are you smoking? They directed the whole revolution, there was a media campaign, there were demonstrations, no a bunch of backwoods guys drinking ale and smoking pipes didn’t organize and direct the revolution, they got in line and participated. The people who governed were elitists by your use of the term.
And then you do that elitist nonsense a little longer and then rush into your other rabid tirade on Biden, as if he should be the gold standard that determines Republican Presidential candidates, are you serious? You want to set that low of a cutoff? Come back when you get something better.
LevStrauss on July 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Well the key word is “Kind of”. I’m a kind of shy, and try to stay on peoples good side. I’m even afraid to attack trolls out of fear I’ll draw attention.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Drudge has up that Pelosi and the dems are pushing forward with a congressional investigation of the CIA. How the “CIA misleads congress”. Very comforting in a time of simultaneous wars.
That is all. Back to your all-Sarah all-the time show.
Marcus on July 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
**Hands you some b@lls”"
Go grasshopper… don’t let them take the rock out of hand!
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Wow, the views of one Libertarian Glenn Beck, versus the poll was conducted among a random sample of 944 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone July 9-12, 2009. Phone numbers were dialed from samples of both standard land-line and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.
Hmmm, I’ll take the views of the one libertarian versus the percentage of answered calls by CBS’s known democrat liberals phone list, and that +/- 3% error rate, I’m guessing the percentage amount of hangups on the robo-pollsters is a lot larger than given.
Kini on July 14, 2009 at 12:45 AM
The RNC hasn’t been kind or conservative, bring on the paradigm shift!
I want the RINOs at the RNC to mess their pants.
Speakup on July 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Liberals are so funny. They think they’re so much smarter than we are. They practically fall over their own shoe strings lying to us and think we believe every word. I hope they keep thinking we believe them. I really do.
Griz on July 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Fontana, I was a shy person too. But, I started realizing if you don’t ask for what you want, no one will know and you will not get what you want. Ever. I broke out of my mold and now, look at me. You have to take life by the horns, no one else will do this for you. You have to fight for what you want…
Now, look what this has done for me…Sweet, harmless, lovable little fuzz ball……
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:47 AM
I agree with you, and yet it if she’d answered better her answer wouldn’t have been used against her.
Something else would have, but it would have been one less bullet.
Wrong reason but great instinct. Trolls are not worth your time and will only make your life worse.
Just hang out with us. We’ll show you around.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Yeah that’s fair and fine but I think people who work in vague platitudes give themselves too much wiggle room to be trusted. History confirms it, you can get enough press coverage and media time to fool enough people into thinking you’re conservative, look at our last “conservative” governor that ran for President that coincidentally fit your bill. That worked out well, didn’t it?
LevStrauss on July 14, 2009 at 12:50 AM
It’s fun to watch them implode.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Great, everyone’s getting in on this. But yeah, I hear you. I’m just trying very slowly to find my niche. Going back to feuds here at HA. I don’t want to get caught up in one.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM
You’ll be fine. It’s good to blow off steam.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:57 AM
They’re actually not too hard to avoid. Just don’t respond to people directly and instead just discuss ideas, specifically without quoting others.
If someone wants to start someone with you, just don’t respond. And simply ignore anyone who is a troll or who is acting trollish or just plain stupid, even if said person is unfairly attacking someone else. More often than not, it really isn’t worth your time anyway.
My problem is that I care a lot about what I believe and have no problem defend those beliefs; on the contrary, I enjoy it. Fortunately my friends get this and are cool with it, but can only take so much, so I come here and vent even more.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Oh hell, I just came across ‘Teddy: In his own words’ on HBO….it goes something like this….
I got drunk. I killed a woman. I got drunk. I ran for senate. I got drunk. I worked to ruin the country. I got drunk. I got cancer. I got drunk. I……to be continued.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Just always remember, if you don’t want to get caught up in any feuds at Hotair, then whenever you come to a fork in the road … … take it.
Cheshire Cat on July 14, 2009 at 1:01 AM
I’ve been an adjunct prof for 20 years now up to MBA level classes. I’ve done my fair share of evaluation speaking. The largest audience I’ve spoken to was about 3000 strong. So I think I have just a little applicable experience.
Put her up against ozero for speaking and she will tear him up. Take away his teletubbie and he will end up completely humiliated.
My wife would go nuts with frustration when Ozero spoke. “He isnt’ saying anything” “Why is he doing that with his hands?”. The hypothesis that ozero was using NLP or ericksonian techniques seems to hold up. His speeches are largely without substance.
Oh, I do have to give you the boner Palin made when she mentioned she was going to visit all 57 states… er wait a minute.
Well, I know a lot of profs who grade based on students reguritating what they want to hear. If they don’t like the message, they knock off a letter grade or two. Her premise is entirely sound. Cap and Tax sux.. what part of that is difficult??
Guess you got mezmerized by ozero during the campaign. What she said in the article is basically what she has been saying all along. BTW. I’ve busted my fair share of plagarists. When I read the article I conciously looked for evidence that it was completely ghost written. Didn’t find any smoking guns
However, when we look at jugears “Dreams of my British Subject DAddy” we find a LOT of evidence that it was ghost written by Billy Bomber Ayers.. Unlesss….. you believe obama has a seafaring background. Look at the passages from ayers book and obamas book. BUSTED..
Well, you missed the point.. I never said they were backwoods. Sometimes when people have a weak arguement they try to put words in people’s mouths. The point, as I wrote it, was that the seeds of the revolution did not come from the universities, it came from people getting together to find a solution to their problems.
Yep, I’m completely serious. The loony left (redundancy) and the elitist rino republicans attack Sarah Palin. Biden has been doing a gaffe a day since he was chosen as the VP. I would be a little harder on him than I am but I suspect that some of his gaffes come from an aneurism he had a while back. I knew someone else with a similar situation and their inhibitions were almost non existant.
Gee, didn’t know you were one of the co-owners of this forum. I’ll bet that is a surprise to allahpundit and ed.
Funny, you went into the ad hominum attacks pretty fast. Reminds me of the old martial arts days. One of the most rewarding ways to win a fight was to get the other guy to start losing it.
bullseye on July 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Yeah, but I’m also afraid to show people my political views. Being new to the political arena and all. It’s tough being an 18 year old Californian conservative. Not many people my age don’t have political beliefs at all. That makes it tough for me to find a decent political conversations and thus share my views with.
Or maybe I’m complaining too much.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:07 AM
OMG you’re a baby!
Be trusting Obi Won.. we shall show you the true path.
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 1:08 AM
No, I’ve been there and hated it.
I still bite my tongue when appropriate.
Esthier on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 AM
I’m with you, here, though I’d replace your “and” with “or”. This is why I say that it’s mostly important to me that a conservative is firmly rooted in principle. Proper details will flow from that, by my reckoning.
She’s got the biggest platform. Let’s hope she uses it well. I liked the resignation move from the start, and, while I found her speech a little rambling, I liked that she took direct shots at The Precedent (strong ones that no one really talked about), said what her administration had done (though it was Alaska specific), what she was going to do, and has started out very well. I like it.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 AM
:P.
I’ll shut up now. And go with the flow of the thread.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:09 AM
:P.
I’ll shut up now. And go with the flow of the thread.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:10 AM
I’m with you, here, though I’d replace your “and” with “or”. This is why I say that it’s mostly important to me that a conservative is firmly rooted in principle. Proper details will flow from that, by my reckoning.
She’s got the biggest platform. Let’s hope she uses it well. I liked the resignation move from the start, and, while I found her speech a little rambling, I liked that she took direct shots at The Precedent (strong ones that no one really talked about), said what her administration had done (though it was Alaska specific), what she was going to do, and has started out very well. I like it.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 1:11 AM
Can Palin win? Sure. The most important thing is not Palin or MSM, but events.
If 2012 comes around and the economy is in the tank and the stimulus is seen as a great fraud and faith in the government to manage the economy (and the lives of peope1!) is at an all-time low, then the candidate best positioned to win will be:
1. A Washington outsider
2. A Republican
3. A person who eschews big government solutions but instead wants to take power out of Washington and give it back to the people.
When Reagan won, he didn’t win because he had this great plan to organize the economy and people’s lives. He ran on a platform of the government being the problem, not the solution. In 2012, if your platform is I want power because I’m going to give it up – and if that is the winning platform – then the only question is whether or not people think you’re sincere.
PackerBronco on July 14, 2009 at 1:12 AM
heh,
Then show me, my Alaskan friend.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Fontana, we have a lot of people here that are young, and conservative. BlantantBlue, Upstater85, they are young, but they are wise beyond their years. Now, being able to have substantative conversations with people your age is tough. I was conservative, thanks to my Dad explaining what the difference was in my first presidential race in 1992. I was eighteen, and I listened to what he had to say. I wanted lower taxes, small govt….and I still liked living at home while I was going to college, if I voted for Clinton, I was out on my keister.
Your are lucky to have HA. This site gives you a chance to learn about the lastest news, discuss with like minded people and with people that are here to fight with you, but you get to discuss the issues. You get to find out what people in other states and even other countries are thinking. I watch a lot of news, even the enemies like MSNBC, you need to know what the enemy is doing, and listen to Rush and sometimes Glenn Beck….and watch Glenn Beck. But, that is me. You will find your niche.
Now, with people in conversation, LISTEN to what they are saying and if they are wrong, say, well I heard on….or I read on….and correct them. If they are open, they will discuss it with you, if they are high on the obama koolaid, they will lash out and they are not worth your time…..it’s like zombies.
But, no one should EVER dismiss YOUR opinion. It is yours, and if it is educated, you have a right to express it.
What is it they say, some people you just can’t reach….
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Remember Grue….23 and wise beyond his years…I wonder if he is still with Manly. I miss him here.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Bush warned us, with his “compassionate conservativism”. He was also pretty vocal about the federal government mucking around in education and the like. And he was soft on US sovereignty from the start, too, I think. His principles were a bit left.
progressoverpeace on July 14, 2009 at 1:20 AM
The poor kid got sucked in by the rash.
upinak on July 14, 2009 at 1:23 AM
I’m always amazed to see some conservatives on these sites go on and on and on about how Obummer is screwing over this country, etc. But when the anti-Obummer came along, many of them want to piss and moan about her, too.
What gives?
Maybe what they really want is a watered-down version of what the Democrats are giving us; don’t want to drift too far away from the idea of “government-based solutions” and safety nets. Because I’m pretty sure that a President Palin would wear out many pens vetoing junk from even a Republican Congress. And that scares the hell out of them just as much as the Dems.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM
I read the whole thing. It captures my position perfectly. It actually cheered me up. My parents are conservative too. But my dad is more vocal on his political opinion, which is where I get my understanding from too. Too bad I could not vote on the presidential election (My birthday was Jan 5th) But I did vote down all those recent props here in Cali. You are also right that I’m lucky to have hot air. It’s my main stop for political information. And as time goes on and I become more understanding in what I stand for, and can express my views.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:26 AM
I don’t start ‘em, sugar.
MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:27 AM
I also think I’m keeping this thread afloat still :P
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:27 AM
In 1976, Ronald Reagan lost in the Primaries to Gerald Ford…then he got busy while America endured President Peanut, and voila! It appears that Sarah Palin has the same potential as Reagan. Time will tell. I just can’t wait for the bright dawn ahead (Reagan’s words) for our beloved USA! And this is how I will get through the next 3.5 years without screaming my head off…repeat….
redwhiteblue on July 14, 2009 at 1:29 AM
Stick with us, most of the people here are highly educated, highly driven, good stock. Don’t be afraid to ask a question or give an opinion. And if a troll attacks, watch the regulars go after them like a band of….well, hornets.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:29 AM
You are a bad, bad man, MadCon. How’s the, um, walker? Or is that just a third leg?
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM
And to me, you’re a yummy combination of both, you saucy courtesan.
MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM
Don’t make me prove the latter. Done enough heavy lifting today.
MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
Just a little bit of history repeating itself….
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
Yes, I know that Scotch bottle can get heavy.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
ha
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM
It’s Irish whiskey, you dilettante. Keep it up and you’ll learn its mellifluous properties as a hair tonic.
MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM
Don’t start with me, old man.
HornetSting on July 14, 2009 at 1:42 AM
This is getting interesting.
FontanaConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Yes, and 1976 was my first time voting…so it feels like Ancient History to me. But I remember the Peanut years well…they blew! I don’t enjoy going through this crap again!
redwhiteblue on July 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM
You don’t realize how hard dentures are until they’re chucked in your direction.
MadisonConservative on July 14, 2009 at 1:44 AM
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