NYT: Blogosphere lags behind big media — except for Hot Air
posted at 8:52 pm on July 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I’m amused by (and grateful for) the virtual back slaps we got for this quickie name-check in the Times today, but I don’t think it’s saying what it seems to be saying.
For the most part, the traditional news outlets lead and the blogs follow, typically by 2.5 hours, according to a new computer analysis of news articles and commentary on the Web during the last three months of the 2008 presidential campaign…
The researchers’ data points to an evolving model of news media. While most news flowed from the traditional media to the blogs, the study found that 3.5 percent of story lines originated in the blogs and later made their way to traditional media. For example, when Mr. Obama said that the question of when life begins after conception was “above my pay grade,” the remark was first reported extensively in blogs.
And though the blogosphere as a whole lags behind, a relative handful of blog sites are the quickest to pick up on things that later gain wide attention on the Web, led by Hot Air and Talking Points Memo.
Are we really the quickest? Anecdotally, it seems that the boss beats us to stuff all the time, an advantage compounded by the fact that Ed and I often have posts queued up and are forced to delay new material out of respect for the other guy. Rather, I think this is more of a raw traffic metric: Both HA and TPM are big-traffic blogs, so when they finally get to a story, they have a bit more reach in pushing it out through the political blogosphere than anyone else. To put it another way, when would a heavily trafficked blog not “lead” the coverage a story gets on the political Web?
Exit question: Does “leading” the coverage mean we can raise a cool mil in venture capital like TPM? Sigh.
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We do what we can. :-)
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Oh yeah! And in the NYT of all things…
Seriously, I think you guys have an instinct for big stories early. That’s why I’ve been coming here so long…
d1carter on July 13, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Me like Hot Air. Never heard of the other one.
V15J on July 13, 2009 at 8:57 PM
This sounds suspect to me. Drudge tends to beat the traditional news outlets on just about everything important, and the newspapers are almost never first with anything. I can’t remember the last story I got from the “traditional news media” first … and they hardly ever get it right.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Cuting edge BABEE !
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Start charging and I may have to consider giving up coffee. Reading this site is like crack. I guess you could say we are all CrackHotAirHeads.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
And congrats to Hotair for forcing the NYSlimes to recognize your contributions. Good jobs, Ed and Allah.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Cough cough.. Allahpundit You probably wouldn’t need that cool mil if you hadn’t just had to have the iPhone the day it first came out… :P
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM
It’s still fist bump worthy, no doubt.
The thought of NY times readers reading HotAir for the first time is lulz, though.
hippie_chucker on July 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM
As long as HA works 1/2 a$$ed like on the cracker so I can, at minimum, read it – I’m reading it before any other current news site. There – you got me on 3 ip’s – home, work, and cracker.
ericdijon on July 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Not me. I just come here for the drama. And to see if AP will ever get the girl.
BacaDog on July 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM
I would like to thank the Academy…….
Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
ROTFLMAO….. Oh please…. He11 for all any of us really know AP is a girl… :P
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM
What I take away from this thread is that AP likes quickies and makes a million dollars doing it.
txag92 on July 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM
They like you,..they really, really like you!!!!
christene on July 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM
They like me, they really really like me.
thomasaur on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Well that’s a spirit booster. You also do a good job baiting in the traffic Allah. Your like a master at it.
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
See Allah goes on vacation and Hotair takes off !
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Cough cough choke sputter…. In AP’s wildest dreams… :)
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM
pinch, poke, I owe you a Coke
thomasaur on July 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Whoa!!! :D
Did not expect that. lol!!!
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Watch out. We all know what happened after the NY Slimes backed McCain in the primary … Next thing you know, there are going to be front page Slimes stories about Allah, tearing him to shreds on the words of some other anonymous blogger …
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Why do you need venture capital? You would probably just blow it all on cat toys.
ronsfi on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Congrats, guys. I saw a little of the hard work and sweat and tears that went into pulling this blog along. You’ve earned some recognition. Great job.
see-dubya on July 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM
C’mon AP! Do you know how many stories you guys cover every day? I refresh this site nearly every thirty minutes, and in that amount of time two new stories are covered. When you add the Headlines section, and now the Green Room, this site covers more topics than anything else out there. In fact you guys are even getting better. I used to muck around NRO, Drudge, and Free Republic as a good picking market to send in tips to you guys, but by the time I see something there, it’s already in the Headlines. William Amos always brings about thirty links to many main site stories, and many others add info like little open source tributaries. Again this site covers everything. Yall produce a great product, encourage a vibrant comment section, and analyze nearly every angle. You should be proud.
Weight of Glory on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Whilst I concur that HA is pretty fast on the uptake as far as breaking news goes, to have it pointed by the NY Times of all places is no badge of honor.
Dreadnought223 on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Well done, as always.
Put up the paypal link, I’ll kick in.
Zorro on July 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM
You know, sometimes Ed and Allahpundit make me grumpy.
But they really do put together the very best political site on the web.
I must have 60 political bookmarks, but HA is where I go every day, all day.
Tip o’ the hat, gents.
guntotinglibertarian on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Ha…I kept thinking, regulars from NY Times will come over out of curiosity and check the place out. They’ll read something, want to respond and then go nuts when they realize comment registration is closed. :)
Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Maybe Allah can afford his own TOTUS now ? Or will he get one cheap from the Obama administration after today ?
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Hot Air is the best site out there! You guys sometimes beat Drudge on a story by hours or days.
jencab on July 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Cough cough choke sputter…. In AP’s wildest dreams… :)
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Just trying out my speed reading skills. :)
txag92 on July 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM
yeah, i agree with all the laudatory comments. this is my favorite site (after redskins.com).
kelley in virginia on July 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM
“repeated phrases”!
Me thinks,that sounds alot like what can be found on KOS,
or HuffPuff!!
canopfor on July 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
I remember the days when this plays was called exposetheleft.com…………..
My, how far we have come. Kudos.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
AP, I’m glad you’re back. You and the good Captain are keeping me sane while 52% of the country goes batsh!t crazy stupid. Your snark and instincts for the telling news detail are first rate. You did an outstanding job on the first Iranian uprising, among others.
Tell the Boss to give you an occasional week end off. You earned it.
NaCly dog on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Not to pry, but after following the link regarding TPM and their recent investments, that makes me curious about the financial situation for HA. I find the site great as-is, but there’s never a problem with more help. I note that TPM allows readers to donate; yet I haven’t been able to locate any donate links on HA. I for one would do so on a regular basis (albeit small donations) if one were to be implemented, as I assume many others would.
zauriel on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
With a HUGE expo of “Who is the Allahpundit“
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM
I have loved Hot Air for quite some time. My mom was upset that I didn’t tell her when enrollment was open. I just jumped on the opportunity to be able to submit comments.
TXMomof3 on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Heh. Allahpundit went on a double date. I don’t think he can handle the compliment from the NYT and the anticipation of being shut down all on one day.
Blake on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
I send that.
-Dave
Dave R. on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Well have you asked yet?
Dusty on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Your on fire today. Keep it up.
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
No doubt. He’s a target, now. The Palin treatment is coming …
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Sorry, I meant to say I second that.
Damn this Chinese keyboard.
-Dave
Dave R. on July 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM
I have loved Hot Air for quite some time. My mom was upset that I didn’t tell her when enrollment was open. I just jumped on the opportunity to be able to submit comments.
TXMomof3 on July 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
If your mom sends him an email requesting access, he’ll let her in.
Blake on July 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Hot Air may not raise $1 million dollars, but this place is rife in “Warm Fuzzies”
Nethicus on July 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM
In other news, NY Times is now combing the hotel room where AP stayed on vacation for “stories” they might want to run later.
I hope you used cash.
;-)
Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Just imagine all that dirt they could pull up!!! I don’t think AP’s little beta heart could take it.
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I still miss Captain’s Quarters.
Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I blame the drinking games…………
…….. some of them have been quite creative.
Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I don’t think Drudge is technically a blog…?
SouthernGent on July 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Congratulations on the well-earned recognition. Maybe next year you can buy the New York Times!
USCitizen on July 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Who is Allahpundit?
Can’t vouch for it, but I did get this from a source close to a source who actually has seen Allahpundit.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Just be sure to have her sign it “Love, Megs” and it’s guaranteed.
Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Yep. Good bunch of folks over there back in the day.
Wish I could access the archives.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM
I hear ya, but just happen to feel Ed is doing his best work ever here. Not to say that CQ wasn’t a great site just that Ed has risen to the challenge here.
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Allah, I think you can go after Kirsten Powers, now, with your new NYT cred. Lefties love that stuff.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Nope, I was at the Minnesota State Fair and I saw AP:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadowplay/35580398/
Bishop on July 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Don’t start drinkin’ your own bathwater.
Fletch54 on July 13, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Thanks, guys.
TXMomof3 on July 13, 2009 at 9:22 PM
MSM beats blogs by 2.5 hours.
That’s rather misleading. What sample did they use for the blogosphere?
There have to be, what, 200 smaller blogs for every HotAir? 500? Smaller bloggers tend to be reactionary, adding commentary to what the MSM pumps out.
For the comparison to be fair, they should take the 100 largest MSM outlets vs the 100 highest traffic blogs. Then I think the results would be a lot closer to even.
thuljunior on July 13, 2009 at 9:22 PM
That’s Meg’s kind of man right there.
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM
I know. I wasn’t sure where it fit in.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Great minds think alike!….; o )
christene on July 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Being new to the blogospere, I can’t think of a more informative, entertaining way to spend the day. Thank you hot air for being there.
fourdeucer on July 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM
So let me follow this brain storm from NYT,Hot Air goes
through all of the daily new reports and op-ed pieces that all these Leftys spew for their daily readers for consumpt
ion,and the U.S.S. Hot Air,decyphers,and makes all the in
formation more easily understood,and therefore,they come
to Hot Air,so they can make sense of it all!!
Outstanding,and,soooooooooooooo excellent I might add!!
Kudo’s,ED and AllahPundit,as well as the Green Room!!:)
canopfor on July 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM
HOT AIR——–4EVER!!
canopfor on July 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
If the pen is mightier than the sword, then you sir are armed to the teeth… you have no idea the power you wield…
Kaptain Amerika on July 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Don’t forget somebody will try to shop around his sex tape.
Blake on July 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Sigh… If AP’s pen is a sword, he’s probably neutered himself after a few too many Newcastle’s.
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I think Allahpundit has done the ol’ switcheroo on y’all in order to conceal his identity. I imgaine he looks something like this…
LINK
SouthernGent on July 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Yer startin’ to worry a few of us, Gent. :-)
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM
SouthernGent on July 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Bounce a quarter off of that. Meow!
txag92 on July 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Let’s not forget Michelle Malkin for putting together such a great team………….
……….. a toast to ‘the boss’ is in order.
Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Don’t worry about me. I’m happily single.
SouthernGent on July 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM
It must of been all the trolls being banned:
(X)=gone
(?)=location unknown to me
(O)=Still here
-athensboy: Status: ?
-Nonya: Status: X
-capitilus: Status: X
-getalife/g0tmylifeback: Status: ?
-DTMH: Status: X/?
-SouthernGal: Status: X
-Karl Marx: Status: X
-Dave Rywall: Status: O
-The Wall: Status: X
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM
More like this…
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Narrrfff! Ed beating up on Allah again?
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Not beating up on him, just educating him a little… :)
doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Exactly why this is my favorite news, information, biotch and moan site.
Geronimo on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
So in beating the main stream media,
is H/A,the Dirty Harry of the blogs,ahem,haha!!
canopfor on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
The Magic Soros Ball says “No.”
Pablo on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I think Allahpundit has done the ol’ switcheroo on y’all in order to conceal his identity. I imgaine he looks something like this…
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Congrats, Ed and AP. Though an earlier commenter had it right – now you’ll be the target of vicious slime stories saying HotAir thinks it can see Alaska from its house.
Wellsy on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
He got hit with the ban hammer hard about 5 months ago.
Weight of Glory on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Hot air rules
all other blogs are belong to it
blatantblue on July 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Gotalife banned by needawife ?
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 9:37 PM
More like this,
doriangrey on July 13,2009 at 9:32PM.
doriangrey: I wonder if Might Mouse is Pinky`s dad!!haha.
canopfor on July 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM
getalife or her recent account g0tmylifeback?
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM
All your
basesNYSlimes are belong to us…doriangrey on July 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Okay, y’all ready for this? One of the individuals arrested during today’s Sotomayor hearing was a woman named Norma McCorvey. McCorvey began yelling alongside another abortion protester during Franken’s speech.
If you’ve never heard of her, it’s no surprise. She’s better known by the pseudonym “Jane Roe”. As in the plaintiff in “Roe v. Wade”.
amerpundit on July 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM
It took months of exhaustive research and the help of Comment Guy’s vast servers………….
………. but we finally have Allah in all his glory.
Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Curious if this mention in the NYT will cause Ms. McCain to give you a second look AP?
katy on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Wow, pretty interesting.
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM
That’s kinda how I got in. There was a post a long time ago about the man who shot a bunch of Amish kids at their school. Allah was asking how it’s logical to forgive the attacker and how that squares with Republican thought.
I felt compelled to respond but didn’t have an account, so I emailed, and AP responded to me and gave me one. I’d been reading the site for months and had read everything on there, going back into the archives (and loved and still miss the Vents; if you ever bring them back, I’d even pay).
I felt very lucky to get to post here. Still do.
Esthier on July 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Whoa. That’s interesting.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Same here with me contacted Bryan when he worked here and he let me in.
Did the same for Michelle Malkin’s site.
William Amos on July 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
FontanaConservative on July 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM
It was fun to watch all of the great bloggers here for about six months and now I “ARE A BLOGGER”!
yoda on July 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM
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