…Several Navy Nuke ships are coming up for decommission. There is nothing wrong with them, we just need newer ships with a different mission capabilities.

DSchoen on July 14, 2009 at 7:19 PM

______________________

Not sure how to respond. I hate to feed the troll.

One, the detail for this subject is way above my paygrade.

I’ll take a stab at one item, in my housewifey, common sense kinda way. Your comment:

Several Navy Nuke ships are coming up for decommission. There is nothing wrong with them, we just need newer ships with a different mission capabilities.

What the hell do I know about navy ships?…
I don’t know why they’re being decommissioned.
Maybe they’re obsolete, like the great English battleship, “Dreadnought” or the great Japanese battleship, “Yamato”.

New stuff has come along, ICBM’s, F-22’s, and don’t forget windmill power.

Life in America would be a lot better, if we could get you people to think inside the box.

Let’s get this country moving again, digging for coal, shale, drilling for oil. It’s how we became great. There’s no basis for your objections in “allowing” Americans to get to all of our resources again. It’s why we love Sarah Palin.

It would take at least 12 years for the the FDA to bring a new aspirin to market!
Go back to singing, “To Dream the Impossible Dream”, Mr. Rucio Ed.
Nuke it, Build it, Drill it, Cut it Down!
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS…back to a time, when Pan American Airways and TWA was king of the air.
luvstotango

Think outside the box.

The USS Enterprise with 8 Nuke reactors is scheduled for decommission in 2012.

Fact The USS Enterprise with 8 Nuke reactors already exists, this is not a dream.

Fact the 8 Nuke reactors have been built, tested, certified and what ever else.

Several Navy Nuke ships are coming up for decommission. There is nothing wrong with them, we just need newer ships with a different mission capabilities.

So when I told the pimps it was too expensive, all of them responded “administrative costs”.

I thought wind was free? Apparently not.

Also, most of our major cities are near the oceans.
Of course Obama cut the research funding for this energy resource. GE doesn’t make this product.
barnone on July 14, 2009

“GE doesn’t make this product”

Houston I think we have a bingo!

DSchoen on July 14, 2009 at 5:31 AM
They use electronics to synchronize the current. The simplest method is to use a rectifier to convert to DC and then use an inverter to produce synchronized AC.
darktood on July 14, 2009

Ya but each time you change the current from AC to DC (run it through a T/R transformer rectifier) you lose some of the power created.

You can store the DC power it “batteries”.

DC can not be transmitted over long distances so you would then need to take the “stored” DC power convert it a “square wave chopped AC”, use another step up transformer to kick it up to 110 kV or above in order to send it down the lines.

Each time something has to be done to the current you loose power it starts to become very inefficient.

“They use electronics to synchronize the current”

I’m referring to the actual “physical” rotation of parallel generators.

In other words how do you “throttle” the wind, while still on the grid?

This could be a turn key operation by 2012 or early 2013.

Oh one more thing, its already been built tested and certified.

DSchoen on July 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM

_________________________

It would take at least 12 years for the the FDA to bring a new aspirin to market!

Go back to singing, “To Dream the Impossible Dream”, Mr. Rucio Ed.

Nuke it, Build it, Drill it, Cut it Down!

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS…back to a time, when Pan American Airways and TWA was king of the air.

Another way would be nuclear. I like nuclear – its clean, and you can have as much or as little of it as you want on demand.

Its a great energy source. Its also got a bad reputation, and no one wants to live next to a nuclear site.

So lets build the nuke plants off shore.

A floating nuke plant. Say about 1,123 ft ft long 132.8 ft wide 7 stories high.

It would displace about 73,858 tons.

It would be on the water so a water supply is not a problem.

It would have enough space so a large crew of workers could be on broad for weeks at a time, or it will have enough open space to land and take off small planes and helicopters for the folks who don’t want to stay overnight.

In fact to make this even more cooooool we can make this nuke plant mobile!

How coool is that!!!

And the best part?

This could be a turn key operation by 2012 or early 2013.

Oh one more thing, its already been built tested and certified.

Wind farms also kill millions of migrating birds and bats. How is that “green”?
Margee on July 13, 2009

Creating much fertilizer

barnone on July 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM

One problem with tidal power plants is that they can only generate power for about 10 hours per day. Those times are predictable though.

Oldnuke on July 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Right, and since it’s predictable, it doesn’t require the backup that intermittent wind requires. So tidal power can add capacity, whereas wind can add almost zilch.

The problem with tidal power is the generation plants need to be in coastal waters near beaches (where libs live), not [like windmills] in rural America (where GOP voters live).

We need wind energy and other energy sources to work. Whilst its all very amusing to see it fail like this, its not good for any of us.

DSchoen on July 14, 2009

________________

We’re not amused by having the EPIC FAILURE EXPERIMENT foisted on us, the taxpayers. Austin’s a bloody mess from this little experiment.

Sancho Panza, and Rucio Mr. Ed, his donkey could have told you about windmills.

barnone on July 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM

One problem with tidal power plants is that they can only generate power for about 10 hours per day. Those times are predictable though.

Also, most of our major cities are near the oceans.

Of course Obama cut the research funding for this energy resource. GE doesn’t make this product.

Use common sense. Wind is not the enemy, the environmentalists are. Let the individual home/property owner to decide if they want to implement such measures for their own benefit, and do not force the property owner to share their electricity with the grid.

jon1979 on July 14, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Funny how that works, isn’t it. Libs cram wind turbines down the throats of rural America, but when it comes time to run the transmission lines through their suburban neighborhoods, they say ‘NO WAY’.

Wind has become part of the leftist religion, and wind turbines have become icons for the envirowhackos and monuments to the green movement. Just as they would ban SUV’s, they would put a windmill in every rural conservative’s backyard just to remind him/her of who is boss.

I lived there from 1992 thru 2000 and was heavily involved in the IT explosion. The problem there is the ongoing Californification of Austin. As individuals and businesses fled California’s high taxes to take advantage of Texas’ business-friendly environment, they brought their liberal views with them. They are slowly turning Austin into San Francisco and will probably eventually develop the same problems they fled.

When the IT bubble began to burst in 2000, I moved to North Dallas. I still love Austin, but could never live amongst the trolls again.

DSchoen on July 14, 2009 at 5:31 AM

They use electronics to synchronize the current. The simplest method is to use a rectifier to convert to DC and then use an inverter to produce synchronized AC.

T, Boone maybe a lot of things but, stupid with money ain’t one of ‘em.

Hey great idea, but what happens when the wind isn’t blowing?
perroviejo on July 13,

How do they “synchronize up” all phase rotations so that phase A is Phase A on EVERY Windmill at the exact same time?

When you look at a “wind farm” ya notice the farm is huge, with windmills all over the place.

If the ”wind” changes at one point on the farm, that windmill will be turning faster/slower than the other windmills.

That leads to an “unbalanced load” or “out of phase” condition, which usually results in a “power outage” for the customers (AKA black out).

Are the windmill “omni-directional”?

Out here in CA, the biggest power draw is during a “Santa Anna” also know as katabatic winds, Meaning the wind will blow East to west.

Most of the time the wind blows West to East.
If the windmills are not “pointed” in the correct direction (into the wind), the windmills could run backwards.

Or make the phase rotation normally “ABC” to “CBA” if you ever worked with 3phase motors ya can seethe problem here, the motors will be running backwards as well.

We don’t have enough oil to meet our needs forever, so other ways have to be found. Sadly it seems that wind farms are not going to be the answer. Perhaps the problem lies in the fact that they are so close to the ground – a better alternative would be to use kites like NASA are developing to capture the wind energy in the stratosphere.

Another way would be nuclear. I like nuclear – its clean, and you can have as much or as little of it as you want on demand. Its a great energy source. Its also got a bad reputation, and no one wants to live next to a nuclear site. I don’t think I would want to, to be honest. But its powered France and Japan for years with very little problems, and I think nuclear is a great solution.

You have to get away from the idea of ‘Green Energy.’ There is just energy. If we can generate it in a way that avoids reliance on Saudi Arabia and OPEC then the world will be a better place.

In a way, we should be saddened that this project didn’t work. But remember – those who signed up for it for the first ten years got a great deal. Perhaps it is only the recession that has caused it be so expensive now. After the recession, when oil prices start to rise again, you might find it becomes a better proposition.

And the turbines are generally made overseas.

TexasJew on July 13, 2009

So much for the argument that these jobs can’t be outsourced.

Nine years later, no one’s buying — because the wind farms are far more expensive and less able to keep up with demand:

Looks like the liberals take over of Austin has been as successful as how they have run states they dominate like NY,MI,and CA.
Epic failure.

(Obama must have caused this threepeat!)

profitsbeard on July 14, 2009 at 1:11 AM

Oh goodie…is it finally time to stop blaming everything on Bush?