CIA’s super-secret plan: assassinate al-Qaeda leaders
posted at 8:47 am on July 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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The Wall Street Journal reveals the CIA program so secret that Democrats allege the agency never shared it with Congress, breaking the law on oversight of intelligence. It’s so shocking that Dick Cheney allegedly told George Tenet to shield it from America’s elected representatives. Hold onto your hats! The CIA secretly planned … to capture and/or kill … al-Qaeda’s top leaders.
I hear you gasp in shock over this news:
A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative terminated by Director Leon Panetta was an attempt to carry out a 2001 presidential authorization to capture or kill al Qaeda operatives, according to former intelligence officials familiar with the matter.
The precise nature of the highly classified effort isn’t clear, and the CIA won’t comment on its substance.
According to current and former government officials, the agency spent money on planning and possibly some training. It was acting on a 2001 presidential legal pronouncement, known as a finding, which authorized the CIA to pursue such efforts. The initiative hadn’t become fully operational at the time Mr. Panetta ended it.
In 2001, the CIA also examined the subject of targeted assassinations of al Qaeda leaders, according to three former intelligence officials. It appears that those discussions tapered off within six months. It isn’t clear whether they were an early part of the CIA initiative that Mr. Panetta stopped.
Let’s see. Democrats want to make hay over a program to kill Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and the rest of the radical Islamist looney tunes? Best of luck with that. Show of hands: who in the US doesn’t want the heads of bin Laden and Zawahiri on a pike? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Congress authorized the Bush administration to use force against AQ. At the same time, the executive order against targeted assassinations remains in force, but that hardly applies to an enemy at war. The entire point of authorizing force is to make your enemies dead by, like, y’know, killing them. Whether the CIA or the military carries out the mission makes no difference to me and probably not to 99% of the American public outside the Beltway, or I suspect, inside the Beltway either.
Why keep it secret? Apparently the CIA dropped it in the planning stages for some reason after six months, which means that there wasn’t anything to report. Perhaps the CIA didn’t want the operational parameters of the program to leak, in case they reactivated the mission. However, it’s not as if anyone in the US doubted that we would kill anyone in AQ’s top network if we had the chance. We didn’t exactly keep that a secret.
If Democrats want to score political points against George Bush and Dick Cheney for wanting Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri dead, they may find that a tough sell to their constituents.
Update: Commenter Coldwarrior explains “findings” as a legal term, and explains why this means the Democrats’ argument doesn’t hold up at all:
It was acting on a 2001 presidential legal pronouncement, known as a finding, which authorized the CIA to pursue such efforts.
A “finding” is a stringent legal procedure, and is required that the President, obviously, the DCI, Attorney General, the key leadership of the Senate and House Oversight Committees, and others if it has direct impact, and is a rigorous process.
That a “finding” was in order, as pointed out buried in the third paragraph…then whomever were the key members of the Senate and House Committees knew about this. Otherwise, no finding.
Not all committee members, and certainly not the entire House of Senate, needed to be brought on board. But that little word “finding” implies a good deal more than the current congressional /Dem leadership is willing to discuss.
Since they’re not disputing the “finding” part of the story, it seems as though the entire controversy is a non-starter.
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smoke & morrors
SHARPTOOTH on July 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Yep, these morons keep painting themselves into these ridiculous policy corners that don’t resonate with the vast majority of the American public. They will discredit so called liberalism for a generation before they are done, I Hope.
allahallahoxenfree on July 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM
what don’t we prosecute leon panetta for cancelling this?
kelley in virginia on July 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM
There are two things about this story, if true, that should raise the concern of every American: 1) That the program was never implemented, and 2) that milktoast Panetta ended it. Morale must be just soaring at the CIA. What was that thing about an oath to “protect and defend”?
george h on July 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
If you wondered why the press doesn’t talk about the polls anymore? wellllll…
sonofdy on July 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Soooo … that’s the clandestine operation? Wow. Listening to Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday yesterday, I thought Cheney had met his doom, that the ultra secret, ultra-anti Constitutional program had been outed.
Wonder if Chris will follow up next week with a disclaimer.
Sometimes Fox carries the water for the Dems by trying to appear too fair and balanced.
Take O’Reilly. Last week said he believes in Man-made global warming. He can’t see the hoax beyond it all? Mister Culture Warrior’s got to raise his scepticism another level.
And he’s pretty snug with Obama until recently.
Whatever, man.
At least we have Hot Air and Michelle.
shades_of_gasden on July 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Imagine the concern they have when their own boss is willing to throw them under the bus to cover pelosi.
sonofdy on July 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Just change the wording from “assassinate” to “kill”, as in “kill them because we are at war with them” and there’s no legal impediment.
Osama has been allowed to breathe for almost 8 years since 9/11, which is my only criticism of Bush, the CIA, and the rest of the government.
Kill these maniacs or more of us will die from their terror.
profitsbeard on July 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Shows you where this administration is mentally. What the hell is Obama thinking that Al Qaeda is equivalent to a nation enemy? These people have no country, they are stateless terrorists seeking to destroy civilization. They have no rights. If the damage wasn’t so great I would say alright let them fail and show people for who they are, but this is very dangerous and foolish. God Help US!!!
Ed Laskie on July 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM
i don’t know if OBL is still alive. however, even if he weren’t, there are plenty of other terrorists out there for us to eliminate by whatever means necessary.
kelley in virginia on July 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM
The drive for endless investigations into things like this brings to mind this parody headlined “Obama Announces Recommendations of ‘9/10 Commission’ to Restore Pre-9/11 Mentality”: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-announces-recommendations-of-910_25.html
Mervis Winter on July 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM
No, but the CIA is.
massrighty on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM
i suspect that this whole “cleaning out” of secret plans at the CIA only drives the “covert” group even deeper into the shadows.
they are still there, but leon panetta won’t be able to find them.
kelley in virginia on July 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM
That’s very significant. It means at least some donks signed off, doesn’t it? How the hell do they expect to tilt this as a totally partisan mistake by the pubbies? If protecting Pelosi is their goal, it seems they are sacrificing some of their own.
a capella on July 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM
We’re so much safer now that Uncle Leo pulled the plug on such a dastardly contingency plan.
EconomicNeocon on July 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Impeach this clown.
-Dave
Dave R. on July 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM
the dems need to get all this bad sh*t passed before the end of the year.
so we need to keep focused on cap ‘n trade, obama/socialized medicine, more stimulus, card check & whatever other evil stuff they are doing at least til the end of this year.
we can do it!
kelley in virginia on July 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM
This has all the makings of a rather impressive backfire on the Democrats.
When the program was first announced and canceled by Director Doofus, you’d think Cheney had a secret assassination squad for peace protesters or American citizens. It was claimed to be that bad and shocking.
Idiots.
Enoxo on July 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM
I say we make Pelosi suffer a torture she would find so repulsive, that she would resign before facing….
I say, deny her anymore Botox…
right2bright on July 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM
How dare the CIA plot to assassinate top Al-qaeda leaders.Don,t they know the Libs have said that these people have Constu. rights.What is our country coming to when these kind of people are not given there day in a American courts.We the American people must insure that all of these al-qaeda people are read there rights treated with care and all given Att.if they can not afford one.
thmcbb on July 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Personally, I still think this all goes back to the Clinton days. Dems hated having Clinton’s affair and impeachment hearings made public. They want a Republican trashed through the mud as payback. That’s why they want Bush so badly (or Cheney). The CIA held the secrets that could be pinned on Bush so who did they put in charge? Panetta. Now Panetta goes digging and quite a few “secret” documents start getting leaked to the press. Panetta feigns ignorance about the whole matter – even has a public” spat with Pelosi so as to keep it looking above board.
Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Wow, a troll-free thread so far.
They must all be waiting for Begala to tell them what to think and how to respond to this.
Del Dolemonte on July 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM
CIA’s super-secret plan: Assasination hit team eh?
The Bourne Identity? Operation Treadstone shut down was a reality or so it would seem. Where the fictional crosses over to become non-fictional. Last question: Did the CIA create a more dangerous operation similar to the movies call sign now known as “Blackbriar?” Non-fictional characters in the real world want to know Mr. Leon Panetta.
Americannodash on July 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Panetta has done what he was put in CIA to do–protect Obama. How long before Panetta leaves? 6 months.
JiangxiDad on July 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I for one, do not have that kind of faith in the reasoning capabilities of the American public OR the nuetrality of the press required to fully expose “liberalism” (a word used to describe what can correctly be called radical socialists)for the backwards, nation killing, ideology it really is.
Goodeye_Closed on July 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM
If Democrats want to score political points against George Bush and Dick Cheney for wanting Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri dead, they may find that a tough sell to their constituents.
OK, I’m assuming that since there is Doctors Without Borders that it naturally follows Terrorists Without Borders is equally benevolent. There, now back to my Kool-Aid bong.
Jed_Eckert on July 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM
I certainly hope that the CIA doesn’t tell Congress everything that is on its drawing board.
During the Bush Adm., the rank and file CIA operatives would leak damaging information to the press.
Now, the CIA Director does it.
molonlabe28 on July 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Give Klinger his Section 8.
fogw on July 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t the CIA been killing all sorts of people in Pakistan with unmanned drones? Um, so what’s the problem here? Oh yeah, they need to distract people from something else by blaming Bush & Cheney for something stupid.
CP on July 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I am stunned that this program was never activated. How do you run a war against the enemy without trying to kill or capture them at every opportunity? Anyone who thinks that there is something wrong with intending to kill or capture as many Al Quaeda slime as possible is fit for a treason trial, so far as I’m concerned.
The killing of this program, activated or not, especially after just hearing about it (shock!) is enough to throw that moron Panetta out on his butt. He is not fit to run an intelligence service. His sort of sensitivity is more suited to running something like the White House interior design crew.
It is an absolute outrage that we did not have these teams actively going out and working to capture or kill AL Quaeda leaders. It is orders of magnitude worse that we have traitorous fools who would kill even the possiblity of doing this and strutting around proudly that they have left the US defenses as weak as they possibly could. They are traitors and idiots, and should be wearing orange jumpsuits rather than working in the government.
The killing of this program and subsequent “shock” at its existence makes me fear even more for our future than I do already, which is pretty bad. This is an insult to Americans that cannot be allowed to stand. All involved must go. This story is nothing but despicable, pathetic, and giving more than aid and comfort to the enemy.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Throw out the life jackets Captain Panetta, cause the CIA employees are about to jump ship.
yoda on July 13, 2009 at 10:47 AM
And that’s a bad thing?
CynicalOptimist on July 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM
I think Dems are obsessed with getting Cheney on the witness stand hoping to get him to admit that he ordered the Code Red.
My response is as follows: I damned glad he ordered the Code Red. I wanted Cheney on that wall; we needed Cheney on that wall.
BuckeyeSam on July 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM
It actually may be soaring, or at least risiing. I’d wonder how many were weary of the Bush era programs, not this one, but the others. Don’t forget that Bush “threw the CIA under the bus” as well because of the faulty intell. They wanted to go into Iraq no matter what, they created their OSP to filter the intell into a coherent marketing plan, they used information not deemed credible by the CIA in that marketing plan and put it all on the CIA at the end. Of course we all seem to have short memories when it comes to politics.
LevStrauss on July 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM
And it will still be Bush’s fault if another attack on this country occurs. Some failure to do something at the CIA that could have prevented this from happening.
It’s enough to make you pull your hair out.
Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 10:52 AM
For Eric Holder to prosecute anybody would be like John Gotti making a citizen’s arrest.
MaiDee on July 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM
We are at the point where it is just indescribable. All I know is that if this Republic manages to survive this Washington junta (which I doubt, personally) I want all of these traitors arrested and held to account in the harshest manner. Benedict Arnold looks like a patriot compared to these people. It is just unbelievable.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM
This is simply Pelosi pay back.
d1carter on July 13, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I can understand Obama wanting to plant a mole in the CIA, but to put one in charge of the CIA reflects a total disregard for the intelligence of the voting public.
volsense on July 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Liberal squishiness is going to get us all killed.
ChrisB on July 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Please, someone send Washington a note letting them know that the business end of the weapon goes towards our enemies.
Thunderstorm129 on July 13, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Combine the Obama approach to national security (appeasment and turning a blind eye to threats)and Leon Panetta, a left wing hater of the military, as CIA director, and you have a 100% certainty of a major attack during Obama’s first term
Imagine what the One can do with THAT crisis. We are so screwed.
Goodeye_Closed on July 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Obama also super “secretly” has said (in a debate against McCain) we ought to take out al Qaeda’s leadership:
Sergeant Tim on July 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM
The money shot…so to speak.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM
LOL.
-Dave
Dave R. on July 13, 2009 at 11:22 AM
JayMac at 9:05 am on July 13:
This weakening of our security and diversion away from his own failing administration is Obama’s way of hitting the reset button.
Andy McCarthy at NRO points out in detail the Obama administration’s folly of releasing the Iranian Quds Force Irbil 5 in order for Obama to blast ahead with his “negotiations” with Iran: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjY0MjkwOWVkYTNlYzE2ZjM1N2E5M2M0MTdiYTI3MzM=
McCarthy detailed some of the group’s offenses at “The Corner” yesterday.
Obama’s malfeasance in office regarding national security should be worthy of front-page investigative journalism and congressional inquiry.
onlineanalyst on July 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Well with is polling numbers falling .
He has to do something to get the fringe nut bars on board.
The damning of W or pulling out the closet the good ole go to boogie man Mr Dick Cheney + CIA is PERFECT fodder for the weak minded. Their collective eyes will glaze over, drool will collect in the corners of their mouths, and start to flow, there will be a flash on the screen ( subliminal text of “obamma good”) and the mantra will start. Obama good obamma good.
He is doing 1984 very well.
ColdWarrior57 on July 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Somehow, I have found myself in a strange, bizarro parallel universe America. I hope that I can somehow get back to the rational one I once lived in.
Star20 on July 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Hope is what Obama is selling. There is only one way to affect change and “hoping” for it is what the left wants as that bizzaro world becomes an irreversible reality.
Taking dramtic action (I confess I don’t know what that action should look like) is the only way we can EVER get back to the real America. Maybe tax revolts, general strikes, or mass protests are the way to go.
Goodeye_Closed on July 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Me too – except I’m sick of hope!
redwhiteblue on July 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I am very confused. Didn’t Obama, Leon and the FBI approve the assasination of 3 Somali pirates a few months back???
Anyone?
Nothing but a pitiful red herring attempt – where I believe Bambi swoops in and tells Holder publically, in some rhetoric filled speech that it shouldn’t go forward, then takes the strawman credit.
All of which demoralize the CIA, troops and .50 cal rifles.
Odie1941 on July 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM
This does answer alot of questions.
We know Peanut Carter decided we aren’t allowed to assissinate other world leaders, and the Dems do believe those in Al Qaeda are legitimate leaders.
Also why would the Dems want these guys dead, they’re not terrorist they’re just non-associative friends.
Rbastid on July 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM
No. The Precedent, at least, fought it all the way. He would have had the snipers court martialed except that the action was so popular. The reason it took so many days to do it (and didn’t happen when the captain first went overboard) was because The Precedent was more concerned with the lives of the Somali pirates than anyone else’s.
progressoverpeace on July 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Wasn’t that the whole purpose of the war? To bring the terrorists to justice? To punish those who were involved in the 9/11 attack?
PappaMac on July 13, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Another case of the Dum’s trying to “wag the dog” while the country goes to hell in an Obama basket.
Big John on July 13, 2009 at 12:24 PM
if there was a secret program to read them some Miranda rights then that’d be okay….
epic fail–dems–epic fail
ted c on July 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Most presidencies are shaped by events beyond their control. Jimmy Carter=444 days.
Are we going to start a nightly news counter on the number of days that the US economy and US taxpayers are being held hostage against their will?
Will a cartoonist come out with a caricature of the POTUS with one foot on the neck of the US economy, another on the neck of the US taxpayer, one hand pulling the IV out of health care and the other backhanding the rule of law? Simultaneous he is proclaiming heavenly platitudes while the TOTUS speaks…
ted c on July 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Leahy wants to use this as a basis for unnumbered, open ended investigations of the Bush Admin.
“I’ve always preferred my idea of a commission of inquiry to look at all these issues,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said Sunday.
Fishing Expedition, witch hunt, whatever you want to call it.
Looks like the Senate just found it’s very own Gulf of Tonkin…
juanito on July 13, 2009 at 12:59 PM
That this administration and congress is going after the previous administration and a political party completely out of power…..WAY out of power with seemingly no way back (basically too inept to be a challenge to anyone)is very telling indeed.
Let’s just say they aren’t steam rolling the opposition, economy, and constitution for nothin’
All I can say to my future grand-children….sucks to be you.
Goodeye_Closed on July 13, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I was amused watching Gregory act like a mule questioning whether this needed ‘investigations’ this weekend on MTP.. Now even more so.
I’d like to state clearly that in Israel we have found that elimination of terrorist group leaders is one of the most effective anti-terror tools around bar none, and that you can ‘decapitate’ terror groups for long periods of time this way..
saus on July 13, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Not only do I want their heads on a pike I want the followng televised for all the US to see: their heads wrapped in bacon and set on fire with members of the US military, the NYPD, and FDNY pizzing on the ashes, then scatter their ashes on a pig farm!
Even that wouldn’t be closure enough for me, but it would be a start!
Liberty or Death on July 13, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Next Obama is going to want us to believe FDR had plans to assassinate Adolph Hitler and that’s taking things tooo far
Herb on July 13, 2009 at 3:03 PM
If this so-called “plan” was to be directed against a Chavez, or even an Ahmadinejad, it would be wrong, wrong, wrong…and in direct violation of Executive Order 11905.
But we are not talking about foreign or national leaders.
We are talking about a bandit gang, thugs, terrorists, brigands, who deserve, under the terms of Geneva, summary execution, nothing more.
That it was discussed at the operations level…good idea. Glad at least somebody was looking at the possibilities.
That the higher up it went, where politics and scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours games are rampant, and was set aside, terminated, no surprise there. But, can somebody tell the higher ups we are at war, and our enemies would have no reluctance to do the same, if given the opportunity?
In covert ops, one can lean to the side of caution, if there is valid reason for doing so. Such factors as danger to our personnel, blowback that could endanger even more US citizens, or the costs in dollars and innocent lives such a program would entail.
The recent al-Qaeda pronouncement that there are spies in their midst should be something we should capitalize on, and across the board, not shrink from the opportunities such paranoia within the ranks of al-Qaeda offers us.
The recent spate of murders of Somalis who formerly lived in the US at the hands of al-Qaeda suggests that those jihadis with recent US ties, real or imagined, might be enemies is something that further suggests that al-Qaeda may be breaking up from within. One or two or more of their top lieutenants, even Osama himself, being taken out in the dead of night might be enough to fragment the movement even more.
Opportunity. When it comes around, you seize it.
Or you spend the next many years wondering about what might have been.
Since Barack Obama in the Presidential debates stated emphatically that if the Pakistanis won’t kill Osama, and he would, if he were President…well, Obama, you are President.
Pay the piper or get off the dance floor.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I’m late to the party. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thin I heard that the libtards are agry because the CIA had a plan to hunt down and kill murderous scum before they could kill US Citizens…WTF is wrong with these people?
There is a new revolution coming…keep buying guns and ammo…we’re going to need them. I’m not advocating, just my analysis of where all this is headed. DAMN…I woke up in bizarro world and can’t get back to the country I grew up in!
jwp1964 on July 13, 2009 at 6:03 PM
OMG!!! We were actually planning to hunt down and kill AQ terrorists? C’mon, can’t we all just “get along”??
StimulateTHIS on July 13, 2009 at 6:19 PM
If any of you saw the recently released film “The Stoning of Soroya M.”, it would indeed be poetic justice if Bin Laden, or any of his minions we happen to capture, should be blindfolded, with their hands tied behind their backs, buried up to their waist in a hole, and subjected to a pummeling by 7 pound rocks aimed directly at their heads until a mush of blood and brains finally spurts through the splits in their skulls. Apparently it usually takes up to a half hour of stoning to finally kill someone. I can’t think of a better or more appropriate means to dispose of sum-human vermin like OBL.
StimulateTHIS on July 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM
So the Right is supposed to be the side that’s concerned with the Rule of Law, right?
Yet this comes out and Ed Morrissey doesnt have a word to say about whether or not it is legal to keep this kind of initiative secret from Congress. He focuses on whether or not we want ObL dead rather than whether or not we think it’s important to follow the law.
It’s quite sad what’s happened to the American Right.
orange on July 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
A Presidential Finding is a legal document, signed off by several cabinet officers, members of the appropriate Congressional committees, all performed under law.
So, yes, we are concerned with the rule of law.
We are also concerned that national policy is being dictated by feelings and penumbras, and what side of the bed the various Czars and Administration officials arose.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Until today I though killing Bin Laden on sight WAS Authorized.
Did Clinton “share” his “supper secret” “double pinky” promises to kill Bin Laden with Congress?
Wow the Dems have accused Bush of not trying to kill OBL AND of trying to kill OBL!
All I ask for Christmas is a full investigation into these charges!
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Ya mean like when Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont was forced to resign from the Senate Intelligence Committee after being tied to a series of leaks in the 1980s.
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Presidential findings either come from the top…a President decides that Problem A must go away…or from the bottom, an ongoing covert activity has reached a level where it may be in the best interests of the nation to pursue it further.
The bottom up procedure is lengthy, and cumbersome, as it should be, and at each level from the field and at the supporting desk, concurrences have to be signed off, and then it goes to the appropriate division chief, and the concurrences att hat level have to be signed off on. Then it is presented, as a suggested course of action, to the seventh floor. If approvied in principal by the DCI Suite, it goes back to the originating desk and then the writing and vetting by legal staff ensues.
Each page is a legal document. No spelling errors, and a comma misplaced can change the intent or meaning of the Finding.
Copies are made, edited, checked by legal, and then it goes back to the seventh floor, and then over to the NSC. At that point, the Attorney General is brought on board, and the senior members/ranking members of the select committees are briefed on the details with a up or down vote, so to speak. It then goes back to the White House and their NSC staff and the legal team goes over it in detail. If satisfactory from a legal and editorial point of view it goes to the Oval Office for signature.
At every stage a large number of eyes see the pre-finding, and can comment on it, ask that it be changed, ask that it be quashed, or endorse it in its entirety.
Once signed by the President it has the effect of law.
From the top down it gets more complicated, as what the president desires may be outside the current capabilities of the Agency…assets in place, access to the target area, support from liaison if necessary and the like.
In both cases, there is law to be followed and procedures that are not easily, if at all, tossed aside. It is a matter of historic record, the National Archives ends up with these things when the dust clears. Ask Sandy Burger about this…he had post-Adminsitration access to such documents when he “mistakenly” shoved them in his pants and socks and left them somewhere outside the Archives for some inane reason.
coldwarrior on July 13, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Okay lets recap.
A TOP SECRET program that NEVER went into effect (operational) was never disclosed to Congress by the CIA, is that it?
Uhm, why would a NON-existent program that NEVER went beyond the “concept” stage be reported to Congress?
Lets try this another way, Senator Dianne Feinstein is accusing the CIA and VP Cheney of not disclosing a “thing” that never happened to Congress.
WOW! Senator Dianne Feinstein is a Ufologist!
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Orange is it legal to keep WHAT initiative secret from Congress?
“Congress “should have been told” about the secret problem”
Congress in general, NO.
Congress as in Senate Intelligence Committee, YES
Should Congress have been briefed about NON-Existent programs? NO.
Is it a crime for not reporting something that never happened?
Please Orange state the LAW that makes it a crime for NOT reporting something that NEVER happened!
This should be a hoot!
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Actually your not that far off.
Currently we are working on “new” Smart weapons that will have the ability to recite the Miranda Rights before going “BOOM”
This new program is know as Obama’s “M.R. warfare”
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM
He’s starting to lose even when he wins!
He won the stim bill that’s killing our country!
Or should it be we lose when he wins?
DSchoen on July 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM
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