Video: GOP had a plan
posted at 1:15 pm on July 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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I’ve had this for a couple of days, but perhaps today is better for rolling out the pushback from the House Republicans on the economy. Today, Barack Obama once again dishonestly claimed that Porkulus opponents wanted to “do nothing” in the face of the economic collapse, but that’s simply not true — which Obama might have learned had he leaned on Nancy Pelosi to include Republicans in the negotiations. Instead, she locked the doors, which resulted in zero GOP votes for Porkulus in the House, and only three in the Senate. House Republicans want American voters to know that they had a plan all along:
I would have liked this to be a little more detailed, but this is a good start. Obama has become vulnerable as his economic policies have failed just as quickly and completely as predicted. No one can keep track of the spending, and jobs continue to be lost at the same pace as before Porkulus. The GOP needs to keep pushing positive action plans and refuting Obama’s attempts to paint them as a Party of No.
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Big deal Ed. The Republicans are not going to do what needs to be done EITHER.
Get the goddamn banks to COME CLEAN, default the bad debt and clean up government.
Begin pushing hard for investigation and prosecution of everyone, individual and corporate, who did and still is falsifying any form of accounting or other financial matter.
Demand that those who made bad investments in insolvent firms be forced to EAT THEM.
Demand that PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYEES be cut back to the same standards as PRIVATE SECTOR employees, both for retirement benefits and current working benefits and salary.
Return ALL entitlement and education programs to the states and END THEM at the federal level.
Cut Federal spending to match the budget.
Push HARD to institute The Fair Tax.
RE-INSTATE GLASS-STEAGALL IN ITS ENTIRETY and force the break-up of each and every financial institution that currently is in violation of what it would mandate.
STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND SEND ALL OF THEM HOME. Period.
The Republicans will do NONE OF THIS, nor will the Democrats. FACE THE FACTS.
Riposte on July 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM
The situation we have now is a golden opportunity for the GOP. We’ll have to see just how badly they can manage to fumble it.
trigon on July 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Of course Republicans had a plan. Hell, even I knew what to do. Most here at HA know what to do. It isn’t rocket science. Yet Democrats insist that they are smarter than anyone else in the room.
BetseyRoss on July 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Wasn’t that one of the jobs assigned to Sheriff Joe?
GarandFan on July 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Oh really? Was that plan to get more Republican’s to vote for Crap & Trade?
Knucklehead on July 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM
The GOP didnt advertise their plan or communicate the fact of it to the great mass of retards that voted for BOZO. They seem to have a real issue and blindspot there.
dogsoldier on July 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM
November 2010 can’t get here fast enough.
ieplaya on July 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Yet Democrats insist that they are smarter than anyone else in the room.
BetseyRoss on July 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I think the GOP has been locked out of the room and some are so so afraid to be the opposition party it doesn’t matter. The government needs an entire overhaul and we don’t have the leadership to get it done.
fourdeucer on July 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM
We seriously need to reduce the size of the Federal Government. The Dems are commies and can’t be trusted, and the GOP is incompetent.
Kjeil on July 11, 2009 at 1:33 PM
It does need to be done, but…
1. Recognizing the bad debt would immediately expose the ugly truth that most of the large banks are insolvent.
2. The banks own Congress.
3. Therefore, Congress will act to save the banks at the expense of anyone else, including taxpayers and the small business guy.
And it really doesn’t matter who runs Congress. Washington is an overfed, bloated beast that corrupts whoever comes near it. Until it collapses under its own weight things will not change.
Fortunately they’ve just about blown their wad in terms of currency and market manipulation, at a time when taxpayers are nearly tapped out. China is finally getting wise to the bond scam. At some point the federal government is either going to be forced to stop spending or inflate their way out of debt. Either way results in starving the beast.
TheMightyMonarch on July 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM
We can now officially use the term “the failed policies” of the obama administration. Hey lefties, remember the “failed policies” of George Bush? Your guy gets that accolade in record time.
keep the change on July 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Yes, you’re right.
Riposte on July 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Are they allowed to air the commercial on the major networks?
/s
CWforFreedom on July 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Illegal Immigration is why Mexifornia is insolvent now! Thanks Mr. Governator!!!
Vntnrse on July 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I hate this ad. I hate the music. I hate the tone. It shows a complete lack of imagination. I hate the GOP. This ad reeks of RINOman Michael Steele. This ad is boring.
I love the idea of high quality video from tea party protesters voicing their concerns, without the dirge-like music, showing real taxpayers making real points, with real comments directly at the Government.
epluribusunum on July 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
It’s about damn time!
What took you so long GOP to finally create a good ad?
rednebulastudios on July 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM
So the narrative is shaping up!
Obama won landslide, democrats immediately looted the treasury, taxed our asses off, lost public confidence, accomplished no part of promised agenda, tossed out in disgrace with personal approval rating of 90%.
I like it.
jeff_from_mpls on July 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM
California — let it burn.
Give it back to Mexico, deport Al Gore and environmental terrorists over there, and let it be our national canary in the coal mine.
jeff_from_mpls on July 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM
It’s good, but as we’ve seen, people are stupid. We need to explain HOW tax cuts work to stimulate economies – in plain english. We need to explain why Texas is booming while California is BANKRUPT. “Obama’s policies lead to “California”. America needs “Texas”.
marklmail on July 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Why isn’t Pelosi’s, Reid’s, Frank’s & Dodd’s along with Obama’s mug plastered all over this ad with the words FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES.
veni vidi vici on July 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Along with this video…………
……. the GOP should remind the taxpayers of this nation that the Democrats aren’t too keen on letting people read what they are actually voting on.
That, and there is no accountability for the Trillions that have been spent…………
Seven Percent Solution on July 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Johnny come very latelies
blatantblue on July 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I agree. The GOP is just awful at this sort of thing.
Steele is worse than useless.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM
veni vidi vici on July 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM
They should be pasted on Most Wanted posters.
fourdeucer on July 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Maybe they had a plan, but they did nothing to advertise before the vote when it mattered. GOP political incompetence is getting embarrassing; the RINOs in leadership have got to go!
michaelo on July 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM
I hope they start emphasizing the fact that tax cuts are the only way to administer relief to everyone (especially small businesses) and not just those major companies politically connected to Washington (as the stimulus does).
Chubbs65 on July 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Get rid of all the little Ken dolls and put Michele Bachmann in charge.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Jeff wait! I live 30 minutes from Tijuana! I don’t want to have to learn Spanish when I studied German in high school!!!
Vntnrse on July 11, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Ya know, I keep seeing these little ads the GOP is creating, but I’ve never seen one on tv. What’s the point of filming them if they’re not going to put them in front of the general population? Or am I wrong here, and they’re buying air time for this stuff?
And, as far as the GOP having an alternate plan to Porkulus, the very best one I saw prior to it being rammed down our throats was from freshman Dem Walt Minnick of Idaho. Nobody paid any attention to that, either. Or the fact that this guy has been voting the right way on most issues. He’s pretty impressive.
I see that Palin said she’d campaign for anyone, of any party, who believes in limited government, strong defense and energy independence. I think she’s right. The GOP means nothing to me at this point, because despite these little videos they are making, they are not walking the walk. Haven’t been for a long time.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Translation: RON PAUL!!
Richard Romano on July 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Hah! Republican plans, Democratic plans, What we need is an American Plan!
The Founding Fathers warned against political parties, that they would inevitable rip the nation asunder. These were prescient men and we have ignored them at our peril. Now we reap the whirlwind!
Franklin admonished us that they had bequeathed to us..”A republic if you can keep it”. And we couldn’t!
Adams further warned us that..”A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored; liberty, once lost, is lost forever.”
Let us hope that they were not infallible in their predictions.
Archimedes on July 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM
I’d like to see a video of the San Francisco marsh mouse sitting in the weeds with a sign “I won”.
GarandFan on July 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Jeff, I get the sentiment, but could you please dial it back a tad? Not all of us here are lefty skidmarks. Not all of us voted for the Governator- I for one wanted Tom McClintock. I would have liked to see Duncan Hunter get further than he did. And I do fondly remember Ronaldus Maximus. Lastly, any claim Mexico wishes to make just might come up short, if you know what I mean.
BillH on July 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM
It’s a good start, and as things continue to regress in this nation these ads are going to get a LOT more notice. Let the message ramp up, no need to hit the GOP because it hasn’t gone all-in yet.
Bishop on July 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Man, you have a nice idea there. I would expand on it just a bit; behind the mouse show a line of people holding their own signs which say, “Need work” and “I need a job”.
Bishop on July 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM
In the run-up to the 2010 elections, there might be a strategically timed, full-court press by Republicans that is focused on this core message:
The Economy Is Lost
It’s exactly what the Dems did with their incessant “The war is lost” and “the Surge has failed” harping, except it has the benefit of actually being true. Also, the Repubs won’t advocate cut-and-run but rather an economic Surge based on sound policies they were shut out of presenting by Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.
Pound the media with it and get in their grill for promulgating Barry’s flagrant lies that the economy is recovering.
Christien on July 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Guten Tag, Vntnrse! Wie gehts Ihnen heute? Ich habe Deutsch
auch lernen in Hochschule! Und, so wie Sie, es folgt Ich kann Spanisch nicht sprechen.
Ich lebe nur 15 von die Mexikan Grenze, im Lemon Grove- leben sie wo- nahe Miramar?
BillH on July 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM
The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
Samuel Adams
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I’m surprised at the number of fellow Californians commenting at HA and other conservative blogs. I’m a huge fan of Tom McClintock and I worked 40+ hours a week for teh Fred for months before he bailed (which broke my heart).
But I’m at the point where I will probably leave the state within a year. I just can’t stand it any more, I want to be in a place where they’re doing things right.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM
GarandFan on July 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM
…and then some stray cat come up and eats him!
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM
It’s frustrating! Everything in regards to the GOP in this ad is in the past tense. I’d like to see an add reminding people HOW we need to move forward and TAKE CONTROL, not just, ‘doesn’t it suck the Dems are in office’. We need a Damn RECOVERY from this so-called Dem RECOVERY.
ccbokc on July 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Is that you, Karl Denninger?
Rae on July 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Agree with some of the commendtors. Not enough being done on both sides of the aisle. Grow some balls, republicans, and get vocal.
My biggest concern is voter apathy. People feel that they cannot change the system. Our choices for elected officials seem limited to career politicians who don’t give a damn. If you have to chose between two bad pols, what point is there in voting?
That is why I hope that Palin will campaign for people. She might help energize people into voting. It also would highlight candidates who have potential.
All in all, we the voters built this bloated carcass over years of apathetic voting… I am afraid it will take years to deconstruct it, and I am not sure that people will stay focused. We have become the culture of short term painless fixes.
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Yah- especially in Orange and San Diego counties, the Inland Empire, or along the San Juaquin(sp?)Valley. Of course, there are others scattered throughout the state, just not enough to balance out the lunacy that goes on in Los Angeles and the Bay Area.
I’m one of the rarest of Californians- native San Diegan- and sadly, I too am considering leaving.
BillH on July 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM
The conservatives need to grow some cajones.. and do videos like this
deedtrader on July 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Hopefully those who voted for Obama are realizing they’ve done this to themselves. Given his popularity is on a downturn, it seems people are paying more and more attention as they watch their shrinking bottom line. I agree that apathy is part of what got us here but it won’t take years to deconstruct. People are starting to see that we are either #1 and proud of our Nation, or we become another country’s colony.
ccbokc on July 11, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I’m planning my getaway, too. With luck, by this time next year I’ll be in another state, too.
trigon on July 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM
The democrats are proving they are incapable of the truth. Since the democrats gained control of Congress in 2006 for the first time in a dozen years, our economy has been eroding in a downward spiral. The MSM has to be held accountable for the leftist propaganda that they have heaped on the American public. The brainwashing by the media would have made Joseph Goebbels envious in the thorough way they have manipulated public opinion.
volsense on July 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM
But I’m at the point where I will probably leave the state within a year. I just can’t stand it any more, I want to be in a place where they’re doing things right.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I’m one of the rarest of Californians- native San Diegan- and sadly, I too am considering leaving.
BillH on July 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM
I’m planning my getaway, too. With luck, by this time next year I’ll be in another state, too.
trigon on July 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM
All of you come to Texas. We need a balance from the liberals you have been sending us over the last few years!!!
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Its not that hard to explain. Texas understands that government does not create wealth and prosperity; the people do. Texas also understands that local people are better at taking care of local needs than some politician of in a state capital.
Franklyn on July 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM
No state income tax, either.
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Agree with both your post and selection of username.
Hah! Republican plans, Democratic plans, What we need is an American Plan!
The Founding Fathers warned against political parties, that they would inevitable rip the nation asunder. These were prescient men and we have ignored them at our peril. Now we reap the whirlwind!
Franklin admonished us that they had bequeathed to us..”A republic if you can keep it”. And we couldn’t!
Adams further warned us that..”A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored; liberty, once lost, is lost forever.”
Let us hope that they were not infallible in their predictions.
Archimedes on July 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM
But wasn’t Jefferson the founder of the Democrat Party?
I agree with the idea that political parties are the bane of what is supposed to be a nation. I like the old Roman tradition of two “Presidents”, either of whom had absolute veto power over the other, which meant that nothing that both couldn’t agree on would get passed. The resulting “gridlock” is a feature, not a bug.
venividivici on July 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Yes, but we have a strong culture here against much government. Cuts both ways sometimes, but on the whole it works. My biggest concern is the influx of liberal Californians and East Coast refugees that have flooded areas like DFW. I grew up in DFW (am now in Hill country) and honest to God, don’t recognize the place. Way too liberal, way too material…
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Catlady, I’ve thought about Texas a lot and it’s definitely one of the states that’s being run right. Doing as much research as I can on the internet, though, Oklahoma looks pretty darn good to me. At least “on paper!” I won’t be coming there with a big cash-out from selling a house here, so that makes a difference. I’d like to be somewhere I can buy a house and Texas is a lot higher than OK.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM
venividivici on July 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM
An intriguing idea. What happened when one “President” poisened the other?
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM
You are correct there. It also depends on what you do for a living. My husbands a doctor so we love living in a tort reform state. By the way, he didnt become a doc until mid forties, so we both spent years in the defense/electronics industry. (He was a EE)
I like OK fine, but just am not familiar with the politics. Unlike some true rednecks, I can appreciate OK. Some parts are beautiful some flat just like Texas.
My best friend relocated from CA about four years ago. They had a manufacturing plant in San Diego. Just got tired of the crap and saw the handwriting on the wall.
Good luck. God help you guys out there, a true “it can happen anywhere” kind of thing.
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM
The only ‘programs’ the GOP should have pushed included lowering personal/corporate taxes, axing entitlements, axing Liberal ‘feel good’ boondoggles, and sitting back while failing companies attempt to unscrew themselves including bankruptcy if necessary.
It’s amazing that so many Americans (including Republicans) are so ignorant of even the most rudimentary economics and our own history that every 20-30 years they’re more than ready to give this the ‘old college try’ yet again.
If it didn’t work back then, it isn’t going to work now.
I maintain that the Principles of Uniformity and Universitality in science is applicable. Processes always have the same result regardless of time or place.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM
catlady on July 11, 2009 at 2:54 PM
The cities tend to become liberal even if they start out otherwise. I wonder why that is so, any ideas? Since they are usually the places with the highest housing costs and highest taxes and worst schools etc., you’d think they’d be otherwise.
jeanie on July 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM
That’s not my biggest concern…my biggest concern is the tidal wave of useless eaters who a driven to the polls by demagoguery and ACORN.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Whats really funny? My older siblings are trying to talk me into moving BACK to California to take care of our 82 year old Mom…
And we’re talking Atwater Calif… Central Valley… smack dab in the middle of the worst of the economy, with one of the highest rates of foreclosure in the Nation.
But we can’t blast my Mom out of that town with dynamite…
Romeo13 on July 11, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Yup ! ! I sent that to everyone on my list.
Texyank on July 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM
gop.gov? I nearly had a heart attack over that one — the GOVERNMENT giving the GOP a hunk of its domain? Then I surfed over there and found it was “the website of Republicans in Congress”.
Artful, and the Democrats currently have nothing like it. I went over to their dccc.org site and signed one of those “Hope Card” forms for Barack, with the following sentiment:
unclesmrgol on July 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM
I am convinced that some of you get on here, just because you like to hear yourselves complain. You are the worst kind of useless – people who like to think they are important but all the want to do is run their yaps. Did it ever occur to any of you that the GOP had no way of getting their message out there on porkulus and that even if they did it would not have mattered to the swing voters who backed The One? They had to LET HIM FAIL he was going to get what he wanted regardless of what the GOP did in the House. They held a tough line and gave the Dems no cover on this, now that it has failed the Dems own it – now you attack. With a severe minority there is only so much firepower that the GOP has and they have been using it wisely. Why waste all your ammo shooting at a lost cause? Hold the line, retreat, regroup and when the enemy weakens, strike. The timing on this is no accident, Cantor has hit all of the shows this week, talking about how Obama treated the House GOP stimulus plan. The conservative voters already knew that this was a lost cause, but until it failed there would be no convincing the Inde’s, now they see for themselves and they are fleeing from Obama like rats from a sinking ship.
As to the ad itself, it is affective because it places a question in the mind of the viewer rather then telling them something. If you just said, Obama failed, Obama failed – people will be defensive. The add simply asks the question, of if the stimulus is doing its job, where are all of the jobs? It gets people wondering, it is a process of softening up Obama voters who are beginning to doubt his competence and policies, without making them defensive. The hard hits will come later, it is a long way to the fall of 2010.
Govgirl on July 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I’m looking at the area a little bit north of Tyler. I kind of like the Piney Woods. My business is online, so I can live most anywhere.
trigon on July 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
For what it’s worth, the story link on HotAir about the governor of Colorado’s payoff to his former employer with stimulus money neglects ONE tiny fact: his political affiliation. I looked at multiple sites before SURPRISE! finding he’s a DEMOCRAT. Kind of funny they’d leave THAT little fact out of the story isn’t it? Hmmm. Must have been a mistake. Someone was sleepy. Someone forgot. Someone…
bradley11 on July 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The Republican Party needs to keep attacking Obama on unemployment and the economy. That is the fastest route to get them back in power.
“It the economy stupid” Clinton.
jdun on July 11, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Let’s face it! The Leftys sold the American electorate a guilt trip — the price for absolution was the senatorial elevation of their Black Messiah. How’s that working out for the USA… Personally, I’m feeling painful pangs of GOP guilt for not getting a woman like Sarah Palin elected VP. By 2012, if we live that long, we may require a real General on the ticket just to get our fat out of the fire(I like IKE).
Gen.Petreaus and Gov.Palin, or vice versa, may yet be the country’s salvation ticket. In the mean time, its encouraging that a crop of returning Veterans, and patriotic conservative candidates are mustering for duty in the 2010 campaigns. Will they be enough to undo the damage done to America by the radical Left? Let us pray!
While 60 second AD spots like the above may feel like a counter-punch, they taste more like GOP sour-grapes. Let’s see more hard-hitting stuff –> like images of old folks who’ve lost everything, so that loads of PORK would be delivered Chicago style to the Leftist cronies — OR — the stories of the 1000’s of US soldiers killed by the Iranian thugs who Obama just cut loose. WHERE”S THE BEEF!
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on July 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM
You are completely mistaken. The RNC had plenty of money in its coffers to run ads against Porkulus, but they didn’t. And they had the ability to apply more pressure to Spector, Collins and Snowe – who provided the winning margin for Porkulus. But they didn’t.
And by the way, it’s “effective”, not “affective”.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Right again, gtl . . . as usual!
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM
That would be the same Cantor who two weeks ago stated that it would, of course, be a good thing to do something about C02 emissions.
Yet another preening Ken doll.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Thanks, pal.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM
But, but…mean-spirited ads like that might upset the single-mommy vote.
Republicans, as usual, are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
What ever happened to the people who made the “where’s the fence?” ads?
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Bingo… they had a chance but the oligarchs in Washington did not really wish to fight the stimulus… the big WHIGS of the GOP do not really want smaller government, they only want Gov to be larger following THEIR plan, vice the dems plan..
Yes, following the GOP plan would make a smaller Gov than the current Dem plan… but its a matter of degree, not a real difference.
Romeo13 on July 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
And they were sniffing the polls every 20 minutes, which told them that the, um, First Black President was very popular, so any meaningful opposition to his policies might be perceived as obstructionists and…gasp…racist.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Back before the election, the GOP trust was making some very hard-hitting ads. If I ever give any of these folks another dime, it will go to whoever understands that this is war. Not some namby-pamby Forrest Gump crap from the RINO squishes at the RNC.
More like bringing a rubber knife to a gun fight . . .
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Heh, a few months ago I moved from San Francisco back to MA (Barney Frank’s district, to boot) to take care of my 87 year-old Gramma.
I suppose one could consider that an even exchange…
racecar05 on July 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM
How DARE the RNC use white letters on a black screen to subliminally indicate that Obama is half black and half white!
/nutroots
Speedwagon82 on July 11, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Yeah, I briefly toyed with the idea of saying, “bringing a Sponge-Bog Square Pants to a gun fight,” but rejected it as too tortured a metaphor.
As for giving money to the RNC, never happen.
I’ve given money to Palin, Michele Bachmann, Pat Toomey, the fellow who ran against Murtha (and the gal before him) and Mike Pence – although I don’t live in any of their states. But giving it to the RNC so they can run YouTube videos of Boehner with a coon dog? Negative.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Now that you mention it, the coon dog in the Boehner ad was a sort of…mocha color…and had very prominent ears.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Porkulus was never about keeping states from laying off teachers, policemen and firemen. In fact, it was billed as exactly the opposite – a way to stimulate private sector employment.
But, when the chips are down, the public employees unions are always going to make sure they are taken care of first, and the Devil take the hindmost.
Party of compassion, and all that…
gridlock2 on July 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Now, now…I’m sure that there are a lot of otherwise-laid-off educational “administrators” busily spending porkulus money devising seminars that will train Kindergarten teachers in how to explain gay sex to their mindless little future Democrat voters.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I sent Jim DeMint a few bucks the other day. I also like Tom Coburn a lot. I sent some money to that guy who ran against Murtha last fall, I forget his name, he was a military guy, killed me that he didn’t win.
But the RNC? Forget it! They’re just another part of the problem lately.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Yes, I sadly have to agree with those who say the Republicans will not do the right thing if they are put back in power. Myself and a lot of other Republicans were extremely disappointed in the fiscal behavior of the President Bush and our fellow Republicans. However, we DO know what the future holds with the Social Marxists in power and at this stage of the game we, as a country, must decide if we want to continue down the current path or give the Republicans another chance. I vote for another chance because the alternative is disastrous.
Oh, and racecar05, your grandmother is a lucky lady to have you as her grandson.
devolvingtowardsidiocracy on July 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
The GOP did have a plan – a 700 billion dollar bailout by Bush that was so important to pass immediately that McCain suspended his presidential campaign to preside over it.
I hate the Dems as much as anyone, but this ad is garbage. Congressional Republicans only act like fiscal conservatives when they are the opposition party. We need to throw out every single Republican who voted for either “stimulus” package and replace them with principled people who do not shift with the political winds.
Phildorex on July 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM
So where did you cherry pick that line from? Quotations without context is a Dem trick.
Govgirl on July 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Govgirl is right. The GOP did not have a way of getting this out to the masses. SO WHAT if they had the money? They didn’t have the access. Many of you seem to have forgotten how the media suppressed so much of the bad info about obama during the election and continues to do so.
As a supporter of the 2nd Amend, let me tell you how the left stiffles ads that are meant to go against their POV.
IF they even accept the TV ad, it winds up showing late at night when the fewest number of people are viewing.
As for radio, they do something called “burrying” it. That means it’s in the middle of multiple ads so people will quickly forget about it or have tuned out the noise by the time it’s on.
Lastly, I’m surprised to see so-called Conservatives who weren’t aware of their plans when it was all over Conservatives sites at the time. Yes the GOP leadership deserves a huge boot in the ass, but lets do it for the right reasons. Okay?
Hard Right on July 11, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Trigon,
Here ya go. Try zip code 77316. Big conservitive area and the $ range is all over the map.
http://www.ronnieandcathy.com/all_mls.html
Texyank on July 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
I pull things together here that polling shows that, by a 3:1 margin, people are against bailing out states & that 6 in 10 independents dislike bailing states out.
IMO, this is a win-win situation fro Republicans.
LFRGary on July 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
You missed my point entirely. I agree that they should have put more pressure on Spector and the dingbats from Maine, HOWEVER, my point was not that they did not have money, but that NO ONE WAS LISTENING that did not already oppose the stimulus. I am not one to shy away from a fight, nor do I agree with letting Dems run over us, however, when it comes to the House of Representatives there was NOTHING else that the Republicans could do. Not a single yes vote is about as absolute as you can get – it passed anyway. That said, sometimes you have to let people learn the hard way, and until people who voted for Obama because they bought the hopey/changey line begin to see what change really means, you could have spent every cent and it would not have mattered. Now that people have started to get a bit of an inkling for what is in store, NOW you start to hit this hard. Oh, and FYI it is working – Cap and Tax is stalled in the Senate, and Obamacare is facing an uphill battle too.
Govgirl on July 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
It’s a remark he made on the floor of the House. Sorry you missed it.
califcon on July 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Just be patient
Teh One needs us all to just sit back, relax, and wait and this will all be over soon.
Brat4life on July 11, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Thank you
Govgirl on July 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Govgirl is right. The GOP did not have a way of getting this out to the masses.
guntotinglibertarian on July 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
guntotinglibertarian:
What do you mean they could have run ads or whatever? The GOP refused to vote for this thing. It was a well known fact that they thought it was crap. Running ads would not have changed that and the truth is until people saw for themselves that the whole thing was a waste of time the ads would not have made a difference anyway. They did not have the votes, the Democrats did.
Terrye on July 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Again missed my point. I am sure it was remarks he made on the floor of the House, probably during the debate over Cap and Trade – you just like your pal gtl, DID NOT GIVE ANY CONTEXT.
Govgirl on July 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM
guntotingliberal:
Block the bill? There were only 3 Senators cross over. They did hold the line in the House. Why blame the whole GOP for 3 people? One of whom is not even a Republican anymore.
Sometimes I wonder if some of the people who claim to be conservatives or libertarians or whatever who spend most of their time ragging on Republicans are actually Democrats pretending to be conservatives or libertarians. After all, it is the GOP they seem most intent upon damaging, not Obama.
Terrye on July 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
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