A Seemingly Very Nice Middle-Class Girl

posted at 11:00 am on July 11, 2009 by Doctor Zero

Peggy Noonan used her Friday column in the Wall Street Journal to throw some dirt on Sarah Palin’s grave. It’s vintage Noonan: airheaded, dripping with condescension, and completely missing the point. No serious conservative needs to hear anything from Noonan except her groveling apology for being so horribly wrong about Barack Obama, who she energetically supported for president. However, it’s worth picking through the flotsam and jetsam of this embarrassing column, to appreciate the kind of intellectual fat that conservatives need to trim from the Republican Party.

Let’s begin by setting the stage: Sarah Palin resigned her governorship last week, and has no stated plans to run for elective office as of this writing. She has made it clear that she intends to remain on the public stage, and has a bright and useful future of public speaking, writing, and helping her party raise funds for 2010 and beyond. I personally disagree with the assessment that her resignation killed her political future, if she wants one. It will be an obstacle for her to work around, but I think she could overcome it – especially if Alaskans are clearly pleased with her successor, and think well of her as the 2012 elections get under way.

After referencing the way “The left and the media immediately overplayed their hand, with attacks on her children,” Noonan says of Palin:

She went on the trail a sensation but demonstrated in the ensuing months that she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be. She was hungry, loved politics, had charm and energy, loved walking onto the stage, waving and doing the stump speech. All good. But she was not thoughtful. She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.

I always thought the Wall Street Journal had editors that would review columns to make sure they don’t have annoying run-on sentences that don’t use commas but maybe they don’t and never will. Poor sentence construction aside, Noonan couldn’t be more wrong to say Palin’s point of view “could have been a form of liberalism.” No, Peggy. A charismatic woman espousing a form of liberalism would never have to suffer attacks on her children in the media. People who swallow forms of liberalism are never required to understand the first thing about conservative points of view. They aren’t really expected to know anything about the intellectual history of liberalism, either. Barack Obama couldn’t articulate the principles of conservatism if Thomas Sowell hacked into his teleprompter and fed him the words.

Later, Noonan zeroes in on the moment Palin decisively lost the “moderate Republican” snob vote:

She couldn’t say what she read because she didn’t read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. “I’m not wired that way,” “I’m not a quitter,” “I’m standing up for our values.” I’m, I’m, I’m.

Palin doesn’t “read anything,” you see. She’s probably not even literate. The moment Noonan is fretting over came when Katie Couric asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads regularly, and she couldn’t name one. Given the cratering circulation of print media, Palin is clearly in good company. I suspect the sin that truly damns her in Noonan’s eyes is her failure to read Peggy Noonan columns. At least America was spared the horror of a Vice President who doesn’t spend much time reading newspapers. Instead, we got a Vice President who should have left his debate with Palin in a straitjacket, and shows no sign of coherent thought at all.

Of course, it’s risible for a breathless supporter of the Lightworker, Barack Obama, to criticize anyone else for self-referential speech. Obama couldn’t deliver a movie review of “Transformers 2” without referring to himself thirty-five times. Maybe Peggy could publish some guidelines on how often female Republican candidates are allowed to refer to themselves, per minute of speech, without being guilty of arrogance. Would she feel better if Palin talked about herself in the third person, like Bob Dole?

Dismissing the affection conservatives supposedly feel for Palin because of her “working-class roots,” Noonan sneers:

She is not working class, never was, and even she, avid claimer of advantage that she is, never claimed to be and just lets others say it. Her father was a teacher and school track coach, her mother the school secretary. They were middle-class figures of respect, stability and local status. I think intellectuals call her working-class because they see the makeup, the hair, the heels and the sleds and think they’re working class “tropes.” Because, you know, that’s what they teach in “Ways of the Working Class” at Yale and Dartmouth.

… and you’ve got that “Ways of the Working Class” textbook on your desk, don’t you, Peggy? I’ll bet it’s heavily indexed with Post-Its, sticking out from the thick pages in a pastel rainbow. Does anyone else find it surreal that she tries to dismiss Palin’s alleged pretensions to middle-class origins by explaining that her father was a school track coach, and her mother was the school secretary? Whoa, you got her there, Peg. She might pose as a moose-hunting soccer mom, but she was to the manor born. What fools we middle-class conservatives were, to accept this scion of soccer-coaching royalty as one of us, just because she hid her imperial velvet beneath a plaid shirt.

Of the idea that Palin made the Republican Party look inclusive, Noonan snarls, “She makes the party look stupid, a party of the easy manipulated.” Well, that’s what they say at the high-toned Washington cocktail parties, where the elite liberals keep Peggy Noonan as a pet, so it must be true. The vast number of Palin admirers will be thrilled to know that Peggy Noonan thinks they’re stupid. I’m sure that will make them rush right into the waiting arms of Noonan and her weak-tea wing of the GOP.

Speaking of phony appeals to middle-class roots, here’s what Noonan had to say about her Prince Charming, Barack Obama, back in 2008:

He climbed steep stairs, born off the continent with no father to guide, a dreamy, abandoning mother, mixed race, no connections. He rose with guts and gifts. He is steady, calm, and, in terms of the execution of his political ascent, still the primary and almost only area in which his executive abilities can be discerned, he shows good judgment in terms of whom to hire and consult, what steps to take and moves to make.

No attempts to manipulate voters with sob stories about humble upbringings in Barack Obama’s biography, no sir!

Noonan responds to the charge that “the media did her in” by saying “her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in.” Remember, an Obama supporter wrote this. For Peggy’s dreamboat, a replicated Greek temple shows appropriate modesty when giving a convention speech. She probably swooned when Obama modestly spent fifty million bucks on his inauguration, prompting outgoing President Bush to declare a state of emergency, to release federal funds for the event.

Granted that the older column I quoted above was written a couple trillion wasted tax dollars ago, before the advent of Turbo Tax Tim and the rest of Obama’s Epic Fail Cabinet, but you still have to love the way Noonan celebrated Obama’s “good judgement in terms of who to hire and consult.” He sure knew how to pick a spiritual advisor, that’s for sure! If only Sarah Palin could have the good judgement to consult with aging hippie radical terrorists, Peggy might finally admire her for something more than being “a very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.” By the way, Noonan delivers this backhanded compliment immediately after the paragraph where she declares Palin’s middle-classness to be a fraud.

Noonan could have used this column to praise Obama’s good judgement in hiring a deranged eugenicist who favors forced abortions and mass sterilization as his “science czar.” Why did she waste it pouring salt into Zombie Sarah Palin’s mouth and sewing her lips closed, so she could never rise from her political grave to threaten Republican voters again? Here’s why Peggy made the effort to snap you out of your stupid, illiterate, soccer-coach-daughter-loving trance:

Here’s why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.

Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.

It never occurs to Noonan that those “glimmers of actual secessionist movements” might be caused by freedom-loving people fleeing the “actual genius and true judgment” of the shady, unqualified junior senator she couldn’t wait to sweep into the White House. Hey, Peg, that “admission of bankruptcy” you’re quivering about? That’s coming because your boy Obama crashed the economy, looted the treasury of the future to serve the ultimate pork dinner to his faithful allies, and appointed fools and frauds to supervise his programs. He’s trying to pass a ludicrous energy plan that will cost each American family thousands of dollars, and guarantee a recession for decades to come. If America doesn’t rally to stop him in 2010, he’ll bury what’s left of the moribund economy under the bloodless husk of a nationalized health-care industry. If McCain had won in 2008, then immediately resigned for health reasons and left Palin in the White House, would she have cost us less than a trillion dollars? If so, she’d be a bargain compared to the nightmare Peggy Noonan helped to unleash.

Noonan is symptomatic of a defeated, collaborative wing of the GOP that wants nothing more than to be thought well of by the Left, which they believe has decisively won the political and cultural battles of the twentieth century. Their idea of a “conservative” is someone who can eke out a small discount on the price tag of mammoth liberal programs. Their goal in 2012 is to find a bland, pleasant, “moderate” Republican, who can win the approval of the media mullahs as a “serious candidate,” then lose gracefully and give America’s First Black President his second term. The idea of serious conservative reform terrifies them: radical overhaul of the tax system, dramatic reduction in the size of government, a system that compels Congress to live like humble servants of the people instead of Renaissance royalty… Who will throw those wonderful cocktail parties in Washington, if the conservatives burn half the city down? Who will tell Peggy bedtime stories of dashing social engineers with titanic government schemes? Where will she find hip, exciting statists she can celebrate with schoolgirl treacle, like this nonsense from her 2008 endorsement of Obama: “Something new is happening in America. It is the imminent arrival of a new liberal moment. History happens, it makes its turns, you hold on for dear life. Life moves.” She was on to something with that last bit. Obama has made a lot of American businesses think about moving.

In her conclusion, Noonan writes, “And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.” This is frothy, delusional milk, sprayed on top of a long, boring latte of condescension. Nothing could be less serious than fawning over a hollow President, who wastes his citizens’ time with absurd fantasies about multi-trillion-dollar health care takeovers, piled on top of an already astronomical national debt. The latest polls suggest the public is becoming impatient with the infantile antics of the party Noonan thought should control both houses of Congress, and the presidency. If Peggy wants to see what an unserious, immature party looks like, she should watch video of Nancy Pelosi stammering about how the CIA lied to her, or leaf through the avalanche of scandals engulfing nearly every major Democrat. She could complete her education by dropping by to watch Al Franken squatting in his brand-new Senate seat.

I have a suggestion for the Wall Street Journal: make this Peggy Noonan’s farewell column, and hire Sarah Palin to take her place. Peggy could head over to the Huffington Post, where she’d be received as a martyred hero. The Journal’s circulation would skyrocket. This economy needs a success story.

Okay, okay, here’s the actual link to the Noonan piece. Trust me, you’re better off clicking the one at the top of the page.

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Noonan is in a race to beat the rest of the MSM to that special place where dinosaurs go to die. Presently her most obvious malady is Palin-envy.

It is best for her to bash that which she finds impossible to comprehend, just in case it might bite and might be rabid.

Yoop on July 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM

keep the change on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I think you’re off target here. This is about the intolerance and elitism of many, a great many, of Palin’s opponents who trash the Governor in the most condescending, irrational and unfair manner, like Noonan does. This is not about the intolerance of a few, hopefully very few, Palin supporters.

Loxodonta on July 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM

IMO, anyone ‘conservative’ who voted for Obama lost any credibility they might have had previously as a conservative. The guy’s farther left than any democrat since FDR, and had been his entire (if brief) political career.

ProfessorMiao on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Christopher Buckley,David Brooks,David Frum,Kathleen Parker,etc. turned in their conservative creds as well. The ’08 campaign proved to flush out alot of the just beneath the waves liberal republicans. Now that they have come up for air and displayed their soft underbellys for Obama, I say put a harpoon into them and let the fish have the carcass’s.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I wonder if anyone even cares what this beast writes anymore? She is yesterday’s news. People will remember Palin forever, Noonan not so much.

echosyst on July 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Sorry, I can’t help myself.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM

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However, there have simply been too many sharp turns which have turned off blocks of voters. Anti-immigration? OK, but don’t ask Latinos to vote for you.

How does and why should being anti-illegal immigration turn off Hispanic voters?

Anti-affirmative action? OK, but lose the black vote.

Forty years of AA is enough. Blacks are clearly capable enough to succeed in anything endeavor. Why should society continue to enslave them with this ridiculous crutch? For example, AA gets too many capable blacks into top law schools where many of them flop. They’d have succeeded at middle-tier schools and entered the profession. A generation later, their kids could very well be attending the top flight schools. Whatever the case, enough is enough. This is the land of equal opportunity, not equal results.

Anti-abortion? OK, but don’t look to moderate women to back you.

Please. Think through the progression of a pro-life position. Will abortion ever be overturned legislatively in Congress? Never. At most, it might be overturned by SCOTUS–maybe. If so, so what? Then the decision goes back to each of the states. As a practical matter, all the action these days is on the fringes: funding for overseas abortion; allowing conscience-laws; prohibition of late-term abortions; and appropriately drafted parental consent (or notification) laws. What’s so fricking objectionable about those four positions?

Pro-slime techniques in politics, OK, but it’s a turn-off to most Independents.

Are you serious? Please provide examples. And in light of the treatment of the GOP in the past eight years and of Palin, let me know what planet you live on. Obama and Biden lied about McCain’s basic healthcare proposal: eliminate the exclusion for employer-provided coverage, but offset the increased income taxes with a healthy income tax credit. In most cases, it was largely a wash, but it would have put all taxpayers (employees and self-employeds) on a level playing field, and it would have solved the portability problem. Obama and Biden scared too many people by telling only half the story. Also, I live in Ohio, and I must have received two mailers a week leading up to the election telling me how McCain was going to send me to jail if I were to have an abortion. As I explained above, this is patently absurd.

If the GOP or conservatives need to do a better job of communicating their positions, fine. But I’m fine with everything you’ve complained about.

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I’d say even healthcare reform should be examined by conservatives. REALLY examined. No more fear stuff about how it will kill private business. Nobody buys that.

Wake up. I don’t know which reports you read, but I don’t see the GOP is running with the “it will kill private business” line. Among several points, they’re informing people that most employers will likely drop their plans because the cost of a penalty tax will be less than providing a plan. The GOP is REALLY examining these issues. I wish the media would give greater attention to what the GOP is proposing in some quarters, but the echo chamber is drowning them out. I’d love to see Democrats actually agree to some facts, and then debate alternatives to fix problems that actually exist.

No more pretense that the GOP is fiscally responsible, either. They obviously were NOT when given the power.

Can’t argue this on the whole. But the GOP does have its legitimate fiscal hawks. And the answer isn’t the spending orgy on Democratic nonsense.

BuckeyeSam on July 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM

She never learned how the other sides think, or why.–Noonan on Palin

When Palin attacked, she’d state what the other side thought and why she disagreed, and what she proposed instead. Palin was rational.

Who is Noonan to speak so? As if one must be converted in order to understand, NOT. Noonan never learned how the other sides think, or why; only to deride middle America for the very ignorance in which Noonan is steeped, though the dogma is of a different variety.

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I wouldn’t expect her to ever be the wonky type, but she does need to have a fully fleshed out philosophy that can be articulated.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM

I couldn’t agree more. And I’m sure, that if it is her desire to lay out such a philosophy, to show her vision for the party and America, she wont shrink from it. Having said that, however, you do realize that if she were to do that, it would make her an oddity in modern politics. Not since Reagan has a national candidate put forward, in an honest display, an underlying ideological philosophy of governance. Clinton didn’t. Obama certainly didn’t. McCain was more thematic than ideological. and Kerry was purely slogan. So your requirement of a fleshed out ideological philosophy would be nice, but understand that it wouldn’t place her in the company of more “respected” politicians, rather it would decidedly set her apart from them.

Weight of Glory on July 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM

And how is that? Track coach and school secretary not qualify as “working class”? She’s basically “illiterate”?

I think Dr. Zero nailed it.

Techie on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Hence the “barely” qualifier, not that quibbling over the definition of “working class” (as opposed to “middle class”) does much to refute Palin’s larger point.

RightOFLeft on July 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM

The mental illness known as liberalism effects the RINOs in the same way it dominates the mental capacity of the democrats. RINOs need to change parties and allow their views to mesh with the babbling utterances of democratic lemmings. It is only a matter of time before they will not be able to distinquish one party from the other as their disease progresses.

volsense on July 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Thank you so much for writing this.
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“Airhead. Dripping in Condescension and completely missing the point” Wow! You totally nailed her.
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She is the absolute worst. My boyfriend and I tried to listen to a copy of her Pope John Paul book (on CD, that his mother had given him) on a road trip, and we couldn’t take more than half an hour. It used his life and works as a framework to talk about herself. 75% Peggy 25% that other important guy.
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Let me add one more theory to one of the best, most insightful posts I’ve ever read on Hot Air: Her entire column was a grand exercise in projection. Every sin she attributes to Sarah Palin, is some form of her expressing what is wrong with herself. Her immense arrogance has created a blind spot that threatens to encompass her entire mind, because deep down she knows exactly how mediocre a thinker and writer she is, and the fact that posing as a Republican is the most damnable treachery. Periodically it has to come out in some twisted nefarious way.
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Wall Street Journal, please, please get rid of her.

Simona on July 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Noonan is symptomatic of a defeated, collaborative wing of the GOP that wants nothing more than to be thought well of by the Left, which they believe has decisively won the political and cultural battles of the twentieth century. Their idea of a “conservative” is someone who can eke out a small discount on the price tag of mammoth liberal programs. Their goal in 2012 is to find a bland, pleasant, “moderate” Republican, who can win the approval of the media mullahs as a “serious candidate,” then lose gracefully and give America’s First Black President his second term.

Right on target, Doctor Zero.

“Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.”

Wait a second. If Lightworker is so mahhhhv’lous, why should we have to worry about anything at all?

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Palin’s Noonan’s larger point.

RightOFLeft on July 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Yikes.

RightOFLeft on July 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Their goal in 2012 is to find a bland, pleasant, “moderate” Republican, who can win the approval of the media mullahs as a “serious candidate,” then lose gracefully and give America’s First Black President his second term. The idea of serious conservative reform terrifies them: radical

You hit the nail on the head here my friend. A Tim Pawlenty is what they have in mind(as long as he loses).
It would not surprise me if that is who we get.
There is something seriously wrong with the Republican primary system that needs to be fixed now. People should start working on this.
Peggy Noonan wanted Kay Baily Hutchinson to be the VP. If you go back and listen to her open mike comments(with Chuck Todd) during the election, she was caught saying something along this line. She had a problem with Sarah from the moment she got nominated to VP.

kangjie on July 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM

It’s too bad we don’t ever hear a lot about the members of the media. My guess is that professional courtesy as in “honor among thieves” keeps the world from knowing that these people are so scummie that they make our politicians look like members of the choir.

Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Good point Cindy. We know that both Jack Cafferty and Rick Sanchez were BOTH involved in hit and run accidents. Sanchez’s victum eventually died. Sanchez’s alcohol level was .15 75 minutes after the accident.

What don’t we know?

bw222 on July 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Hey, Blake….I’m Independent.

BS Typhoid-AnninCA. You’re a Hilbot, or pro nearly any female candidate. you’re the worst of the worst. You attempt to infect a righty site with liberalism. You are a sexist. Obama dared to take away Hil’s birthright, and you can’t let it go. Funny as hell, and pathetic. And Hillary comes off smelling like poo.

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Can’t wait ’till Palin gets some rest and gets going with her agenda. Heads will explode ; it is easy to assault and insult someone who is unable to respond back. This has changed, and while I do not see Palin addressing the likes of Noonan personally, she will go after the head of the Hydra – baracky and his hordes.

runner on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Forgive me…I’ll take one at a time.

How does and why should being anti-illegal immigration turn off Hispanic voters?

It doesn’t. That was my point. Obama’s position was actually LESS liberal than McCain’s plan. Still is. That wasn’t the scary part. The scary part, frankly, came as the result of the anti-McCain forces via talk radio, etc., which scared the living daylights out of the Latinos. It sounded like people wanted to go back to rounding up illegal immigrants in truckloads.

People from the far-right really do seem to like that idea. *haha

Anyway, that scared Latinos. Even though John McCain was entirely honorable, understands the issues perfectly, presented a really well reasoned bill….the defeat of that by far-right (talk show hosts?) was enough to lose him that vote in the election.

That cost the GOP dearly. See what I’m saying?

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

When will the palinistas let this go. They are still attacking anyone they can find, including ad hominem attacks, who had a less than flattering view of palin published anywhere. The bitterness is bordering on sociopathic.

No, this is more than an “unflattering view” of Palin. These are downright vicious attacks on her very personhood. Get a clue. This is looking like an effort that is being pushed by two fronts. One is the liberal feminists and the other are Mitt Romney women supporters. I say this because I was a Mitt Romney supporter. Everyone of these nasty articles by women on the “right” were supporters of Mitt Romney. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Who the h*ll are they to pontificate that Palin has no right to have a voice in politics at all. Are they freakin kidding? Look at all the losers that currently have a voice in politics – Al Franken anybody?

No, this is a semi-coordinated hit job mean’t to totally destroy Palin the person – not just the politician.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Ms. Noonan has no right to judge any conservative. For goodness sakes she endorsed & voted for the mess we’re in. Please Ms. Noonan go to some upper east side bar in NY and give your opinions there. We conservatives had written you off…

mmcnamer1 on July 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM

As a retired librarian I now realize that all this time I have been of the elite. Apparently my employers did not realize this when they made out my pay check.

jeanie on July 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM

The media needs to catch on that once these folks start promoting Dems they no longer count as the token Republican.

Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM

But that would require unbiased journalism.

Loxodonta on July 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Nice take down.

Is there any other middle aged woman who would write this mush:

He climbed steep stairs, born off the continent with no father to guide, a dreamy, abandoning mother, mixed race, no connections. He rose with guts and gifts. He is steady, calm, and, in terms of the execution of his political ascent, still the primary and almost only area in which his executive abilities can be discerned, he shows good judgment in terms of whom to hire and consult, what steps to take and moves to make.

and not be embarrassed? 17 much?

Topsecretk9 on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM

It’s Peggy “Harlequin Romance” Noonan.

Those broads like to spell their names funny. How about,
Peggee Noonyn?

Blake on July 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM

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Funny stuff happens to people who work in Washington, D.C. and are involved in and / or reporting political matters. Their way of thinking changes–they become more liberal and start forgetting what goes on in FLYOVER SPACE–the red states and more conservative areas. Arnold Schwartzenager, Peggy Noonan, etc. are prime examples.
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President Obama (PBUH) is another example. His real “mother” and his non-caring “dad” didn’t take care of him. His good Grandparents were the real people who loved him and gave him a chance at a good life. Who did he write about in his book DREAMS OF MY FATHER?–the guy who abandoned him. What poor judgement.
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As far as Governor Sarah Palin being unfit to be president–she has done a good job in Alaska–in an executive position where she worried about real budget preparation, energy problems, etc. Of the 4 presidential / vice presidential candidates in the 2008 election she was the most experienced for the job. More so than “community organizer” Obama, “let’s make a deal” McCain, or “gaffetastic” Joe Biden–all legislative people.
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As far as me–I like her real achievements and hope to vote for SARAH PALIN FOR POTUS and JOHN BOLTON for V.P. This is a team that will bring real HOPE AND CHANGE in 2012. And I will support them financially–but I won’t support the RNC or other RINO candidates. America First!
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John Bibb
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rocketman on July 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM

It sounds like Peggy Noonan,Sally Klein,Debbie Schlessel,& Maureen Dowd all go to the same Hair Salon.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Oh snap!

conservative pilgrim on July 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Peggy Noonan wanted Kay Baily Hutchinson to be the VP. If you go back and listen to her open mike comments(with Chuck Todd) during the election, she was caught saying something along this line. She had a problem with Sarah from the moment she got nominated to VP.

kangjie on July 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Actually, Noonan’s open mike conversation was with Mike Murphy, GOP strategist and former Mitt Romney operative. Murphy wrote a hit piece on Sarah Palin for the NY Daily News earlier this week.

bw222 on July 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Forty years of AA is enough. Blacks are clearly capable enough to succeed in anything endeavor. Why should society continue to enslave them with this ridiculous crutch? For example, AA gets too many capable blacks into top law schools where many of them flop. They’d have succeeded at middle-tier schools and entered the profession. A generation later, their kids could very well be attending the top flight schools. Whatever the case, enough is enough. This is the land of equal opportunity, not equal results.

Quotas, yes. There’s even a good ruling that the time and age for quotas is over. However, when the current crop of politicians blast off without thinking, saying things like Sotomayer is a racist, then all bets are on people reaffirming privately that the GOP is the remaining stronghold of racism in this country.

Personally, I think it’s “loose-lips” talk. I get the issue entirely. I even agree, up to a point. However, if I WERE black, I would be hesitant about voting a party in that talks this way.

Look at how the GOP has treated Steele? Man, he takes a nasty job, running the RNC, and most of the critics are the GOP!

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Has anyone noticed how quiet Romney has been since Palin announced she was resigning? I like Romney, but I am beginning to believe that he is acting more and more like Obama – trying to put himself above the fray, but using his supporters to do the dirty work. I hope I’m wrong, but it is looking suspicious.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM

No, this is a semi-coordinated hit job mean’t to totally destroy Palin the person – not just the politician.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

They have to destroy Palin personally, because they know they can’t taker her on on the basis of policy. That’s why the attacks on her have always been savagely personal.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

When will the palinistas let this go. They are still attacking anyone they can find, including ad hominem attacks, who had a less than flattering view of palin published anywhere. The bitterness is bordering on sociopathic. Rather than being pissed at Palin for destroying their dreams of an anti-abortion president by upping and quitting elected office, they attack any and all who might agree that this is what happened.

keep the change on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I’m not a “palinista,” (whatever the hell that is.) But I’ll tell you exactly when I’m ready to let this go.

So, let’s unpack your post first;

They are still attacking anyone they can find, including ad hominem attacks, who had a less than flattering view of palin published anywhere.

To the contrary; lots of us have not used Ad Hominem attacks. I don’t, for example, include comments about peoples age, or appearance, in my critisms of them. Questioning motivations or ulterior motives is not Ad Hominem.

The bitterness is bordering on sociopathic.

If you’re talking about those who relentlessly attack conservatives, you’re absolutely right – ever hear of Bush Derangement Syndrome? Or, for that matter, PDS, which seems to have replace it? Go back to the top of this thread, and re-read Ms. Noonans words, in your quest for borderline-sociopathic bitterness.

While we’re at it – would projecting mental illness on posters fit your definition of Ad Hominem? (Just asking.)

Rather than being pissed at Palin for destroying their dreams of an anti-abortion president by upping and quitting elected office, they attack any and all who might agree that this is what happened.

I have no such dreams – I just want candidates who profess a set of values that is similar to mine to be treated fairly. When you can show me how Geraldine Ferraro, or Hillary Clinton, or any democrat ever, has been treated the way that Governor Palin has been treated, both by an openly hostile press and by the unelected punditocracy (on both sides,) I’ll concede that the reactions to the constant attacks are out of proportion to them.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

I hope Sarah makes a ton of money on the speech circuit and writing a book.

John the Libertarian on July 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Murphy wrote a hit piece on Sarah Palin for the NY Daily News earlier this week.

bw222 on July 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Thanks for the reminder!

Blake on July 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM

rocketman on July 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I love your choices. They seem to be the only two in the world right now that actually have a clue and could carry out their plans. All part of taking back our country

BetseyRoss on July 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Are you serious? Please provide examples. And in light of the treatment of the GOP in the past eight years and of Palin, let me know what planet you live on. Obama and Biden lied about McCain’s basic healthcare proposal: eliminate the exclusion for employer-provided coverage, but offset the increased income taxes with a healthy income tax credit. In most cases, it was largely a wash, but it would have put all taxpayers (employees and self-employeds) on a level playing field, and it would have solved the portability problem. Obama and Biden scared too many people by telling only half the story. Also, I live in Ohio, and I must have received two mailers a week leading up to the election telling me how McCain was going to send me to jail if I were to have an abortion. As I explained above, this is patently absurd.

On this, we agree. I think the left is now damaging itself by the Palin smears. It smacks of the Whitewater days. And I can show you poll after poll, study after study, that the public are not idiots. They knew what Starr was doing. And they aren’t amused by taxdollars being spent this way.

So the recommendation to pull that junk on Sotomayor? It’s no surprise that it’s not selling with the public. 62% want her confirmed. Beating a dead horse is not productive politics.

That was my point. But that goes for the left, too. Beating up Palin has truly fueled her appeal.

It will continue to do so, I predict.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Wake up. I don’t know which reports you read, but I don’t see the GOP is running with the “it will kill private business” line. Among several points, they’re informing people that most employers will likely drop their plans because the cost of a penalty tax will be less than providing a plan. The GOP is REALLY examining these issues. I wish the media would give greater attention to what the GOP is proposing in some quarters, but the echo chamber is drowning them out. I’d love to see Democrats actually agree to some facts, and then debate alternatives to fix problems that actually exist.

You probably are right on that. I still haven’t read Romney’s healthplan.

I may be echoing bloggers too much on this one.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Reagan said he did not leave the Democrat party, it left him. When will common sense republicans realize that their party gave them the dump about two years ago? You should let Peggy and her ilk keep their GOP, it’s only a moniker.

paulsur on July 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Exactly. When a consertative/constitutional party is formed, I will join and donate. I changed my voter registration a year and a half ago from Republican to No Party Affiliation because my party left me. Over the 45+ years of my interest in politics, my views haven’t changed much. Kennedy lowered taxes, took UNILATERAL action (no UN resolutions needed) to blockade Cuba and expressed a philosophy of “Ask not…”. Wasn’t he a Democrat? They have moved to raising taxes, appologizing to the world and trying to sell what they country can do for you.

Noonan? She’s irrevelant. I can call myself anything I like (Rep, Dem, Lib, Con) but who I support and what I state as my philosophy determine what I really am. The next terrorist hit needs to be nuclear. Needs to encompass ALL of DC while all politicians and inside-the-beltway pundits are present. That will go a very long way towards solving our problems.

CC

CapedConservative on July 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Love you, Zero.

You are one of the reasons I frequent HotAir.

I used to love Peggy…back in the day when her fine Irish way with words helped Pres. Reagan fly over the heads of the elitist media.

Sigh….

She seems to have been co-opted by that damned city, New York, and the cancer of the elite East.

What a shame.

Ragspierre on July 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Can you provide your HA friends with a list of conservative principles, and which you support?

Can you tell us how your preferred candidate, hillary clinton, supported them?

Which Rep. candidate have you voted for, (other than the RINO McCain as a protest against Obama stealing a woman’s rightful place.)?

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Can’t argue this on the whole. But the GOP does have its legitimate fiscal hawks. And the answer isn’t the spending orgy on Democratic nonsense.

It’s actually 2 different GOP administrations which turned out to give tax breaks and run up deficits.

I absolutely believe that nobody will believe that they are the fiscal hawks UNLESS it’s someone (like Palin) who is truly not from inside the beltway, doesn’t even like earmark thinking, and couldn’t care less about working with the status quo.

That would work.

Romney? Never.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM

She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.

She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why. In Palin’s case she was born into a form of conservatism. As a retail politician, elsewhere and in other circumstances, Palin could have been born into a form of liberalism. –Noonan’s message

Elsewhere and in other circumstances, Noonan could have been born into a retail a form of liberalism. Oops, she was. Since Noonan can’t admit who she is herself, she’s stuck on the stupid as a damned progressive judgmental elitist who’d thwart another American’s right to exist with Liberty and Justice.

You just can’t project the following without proving what a self righteous bigot sounds like:

she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be.

Moses disqualified himself, begging God to make Aaron God’s mouthpiece.

Saul was an avid prosecutor of Christians who worked ceaselessly for their extinction, until God intervened and made all the difference.

Pathetic Peggy Noonan is a lame excuse for a self-professed Catholic human being, representing her “faith” through her published and broadcast anti-Palin messaging. Give it a rest, smelly cat.

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM

What Noonan reveals when she writes about Palin, is how she and the rest of her gang truly feel about us.

We get the hint Peggy.

darwin on July 11, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Well said!

edgehead on July 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM

By the way, did anyone see the blog post on Ace of Spades about how Palin really didn’t go “rogue” when she said that Obama “pals around with terrorists?” An email from the campaign shows that McCain’s people (Wallace, et al.) actually told Palin to say this and she did – almost verbatim. Then, after the sh*t hit the fan, they let her just twist in the wind as Ace says. Truly pathetic.

Palin will rise or fall on her own merits – as she has always done. I’m beginning to feel that she was totally set-up for the fall by McCain’s people. McCain, the doddering old fool, waited until the last minute to choose her – which gave her no time to prepare whatsoever. They they threw her into the most hostile venues.

I swear everytime I think of his sorry campaign my blood boils!

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Gee Doc… I rarely if ever address the OP of threads here at HA. I must say, great rebuttal. This Noonan woman is not my idea of a deep thinker; she seems to read a label and buy accordingly. Rather, she needs to start thinking out the unadvertised effects of… well, Obama for example (or any other product that she will be buying and recommending). All the information was available, Noonan and her ilk just needed to look beyond the slick sales pitch. They didn’t.
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Her problem with Palin, (and it is Noonan’s problem, not Sarah’s) is one of blindness to the level of ‘realness’ and honesty that Palin projects and how valuable that is. Many elitists are uncomfortable/unfamiliar with real, honest folk. It seems uneducated and backwards to them. In reality it can reflect an abundance of common sense (something in short supply in DC obviously). It takes a strong confidence in what is right to be an honest politician… Most just lie their a**es off to move up, Sarah has not.
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At this point in time I’ll take honest common sense over a lying Ivy Leaguer… But Noonan, Powell, et al helped nail that lid shut for at least a few years. Zero respect to them… and what they say.
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RalphyBoy on July 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM

I despise Peggy Noonan.

she is in fact, a Mental Midget infected with Bush and Palin Derangement syndrome

jp on July 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Does it really matter if Palin’s parents were lower middle class or upper working class? The point is that she wasn’t a spoiled Hawaiian dope pretending to be Kunte Kinte.

Speedwagon82 on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

The bitterness is bordering on sociopathic. Rather than being pissed at Palin for destroying their dreams of an anti-abortion president by upping and quitting elected office, they attack any and all who might agree that this is what happened.

keep the change on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM

No, using a woman’s Down syndrome child as a weapon is what’s sociopathic. And we’re not the ones obsessing over abortion. Your side is.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

It sounded like people wanted to go back to rounding up illegal immigrants in truckloads….

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Actually, rounding up illegal immigrants in truckloads is a good idea; they’re illegal.

Before I’m accused of extremism – my parents were legal immigrants, under the pre-1965 immigration and citizenship standards. You know, back when we had standards. They were required to have a sponsor, a useful skill, and could not partake of any social services.

See: Legal = good. Illegal = not good.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Great article, Doctor Zero. I really do the WSJ needs to let Peggy go. I know they have diversified their editorial writing somewhat, and that is fine, but she is no longer additive to the discussion.

If she had to apply for the job all over again, I can’t imagine the Journal hiring her.

BigD on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Does anyone really read Peggy Noonan?

GarandFan on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

I’m not sure Palin has a chance in hades of winning a primary, but I sure would like to see her in the mix. She’s got an “outsider” view that everyone could stand to consider.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Well, that’s what they say at the high-toned Washington cocktail parties

Well I suppose it wouldn’t be a Pro-Palin post without some sort of reference to the shadowy “washington cocktail parties”. It’s amazing that people here castigate Obama as a populist here while they blindly support Palin. Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

However, Noonan stopped reflecting the views of republicans years ago. She is no longer relevant and I am tired of her being forced down our throats.

Blake on July 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Beats having Megan McCain & KP links! But AP is on vacation this week….

conservative pilgrim on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

WOW… another trash piece by a worn out, old , wrinkled, jealous harpie.. More concerned about her faded looks especially compared to Palin’s.. Hell hath no fury like a faded harpie.

Lets be honest..

Obama quit his job as a senator, he did not resign, he just quit working as a senator and went on the campaign trail, esentially taking pay for work not done. Palin was moral, ethical, and honest in resigning. None of these things apply to Obama.

Noonan’s referance to Palin’s me, me, me .. is amusing when compared to Obama. Two books, all about himself, long before he had accomplished anything. A book about the father that abandoned him, not about the grandmother that raised him, and arguably made him what he is. It would be interesting to peel back the narsistic layers and find out what drives Obama’s facination with a father that rejected him.

Noonan has all the charm and intelect of Helen Thomas, just not the looks.

dugbru on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

And we’re not the ones obsessing over abortion. Your side is.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

LOL. you obsess over sugar, polar bears, hyrdrogenated fats. Cretin.

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

But that would require unbiased journalism.

Loxodonta on July 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Well how about some plain business sense. When a business, newspapers, television networks, etc. go out of their way to insult half the nation then it goes without saying that those folks aren’t going to buy the product. Which just might explain the terrible financial situation they seem to have gotten themselves into. And, for me, this is not about Palin, it is about the productive people of the U.S. being denigrated on every possible level. These people are tired of being insulted and have withdrawn their monetary support. I wait with breathless enthusiasm for the demise.

Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

But that would require unbiased journalism.

Loxodonta on July 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM

+1

it sounds like an oxymoron these days…

cmsinaz on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Back in college days you could look out your fraternity house window early on Sunday morning and see a few girls, hair mussed, smelling of last night’s beer and stale smoke, adjusting their party dresses as they straggled home, used. That’s Peggy. She stinks of Obama.

Sarah is a shining star.

Who cares what an envious rag thinks of her?

Ted Torgerson on July 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Sorry she’s not black or gay, or something better than white.

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Before I’m accused of extremism – my parents were legal immigrants, under the pre-1965 immigration and citizenship standards. You know, back when we had standards. They were required to have a sponsor, a useful skill, and could not partake of any social services.

See: Legal = good. Illegal = not good.

I’m curious. Don’t answer if you feel this is overly personal or intrusive….

What ethnicity are you?

The reason I ask is because in So. Cal., I know so many Latino families, with even 3 generations of legal status, who also do have relatives here who are illegal.

We’re very entertwined, in short. Overall, the opinion is that they totally get the need for immigration control. However, the system now is impossible. It’s a case of “Don’t bother to even try.”

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Peggy Noonan is about generation too old to matter when it comes to deciding on the national stage what it means to be an American woman anymore.

Move aside, Margaret, because the daughters have grown up and know more than you do now…

[Hate me if you must, but its true.]

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

And we’re not the ones obsessing over abortion. Your side is.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM
LOL. you obsess over sugar, polar bears, hyrdrogenated fats. Cretin.

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Me? No, I don’t. Keep the change probably does, though. I’m tired of the “pro-life means political death” garbage. The friggin’ country is pro-life.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Forty years of AA is enough. Blacks are clearly capable enough to succeed in anything endeavor.

Did you hear the news? White People are now free from guilt over slavery!

There was a proclamation issued:

CapitalistObserver on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

More projection. Is it not obvious to you that THAT has been the Democrat Party’s m.o. for decades?

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM

It’s amazing that people here castigate Obama as a populist here while they blindly support Palin. Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Actually, I castigate Obama as an empty suit. You see, in this case, the clothes have no emperor.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM

This whole piece of tripe can be boiled down to one simple fact: Peggy knows the cools kids don’t like that Palin girl, and she wants to stay pals with the cool kids.

Thats why Peggy’s reduced to the cognitive dissonance of believing how elitist Sarah’s parents were for working in a public school system… when your arguments just don’t make any sense, you have to write them as if they were profound anyway – the cool kids admire that kind of chutzpah.

Next week she will no doubt tell us about how Obama’s grandma and guardian was the salt of the earth, toiling away as a lowly VP in a bank to put Obama through one of the most elite private schools in Hawaii.

Oh wait… she already has.

drunyan8315 on July 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM

One useful thing Peggy did for us, was that she was a test to find out the true unflinching conservatives out there, and those who can easily be bullied by the left/media/culture into parroting their line.

We need to be taking names and never forget

jp on July 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM

I swear everytime I think of his sorry campaign my blood boils!

Yes, the story is even on a progressive blog. E-mails prove that McCain’s campaign wrote the infamous line and told her to use it. I said all along, that’s the job of the VP candidate, to attack. If it doesn’t work, then the campaign drops it. That’s what happened.

I’m still very disappointed that McCain hasn’t come out and corrected the record, however. Letting his staff demean and lie about her has revised my opinion of him.

I’d never vote for him at all again, based on how he’s treated her.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I’m curious. Don’t answer if you feel this is overly personal or intrusive….

What ethnicity are you?

The reason I ask is because in So. Cal., I know so many Latino families, with even 3 generations of legal status, who also do have relatives here who are illegal.

We’re very entertwined, in short. Overall, the opinion is that they totally get the need for immigration control. However, the system now is impossible. It’s a case of “Don’t bother to even try.”

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I’m American, thanks for asking.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I’m American, thanks for asking.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM

+1

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM

This whole piece of tripe can be boiled down to one simple fact: Peggy knows the cools kids don’t like that Palin girl, and she wants to stay pals with the cool kids.

Absolutely. Did you see how Andrea Mitchell claimed to have inside sources about Palin’s reasons?

Then, of course, she got left behind in the dust as the truth came out.

Funny stuff. Talk about revealing just how NOT in the know you really are. *haha

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Does it really matter if Palin’s parents were lower middle class or upper working class? The point is that she wasn’t a spoiled Hawaiian dope pretending to be Kunte Kinte.

Speedwagon82 on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

LOL.

Kunte Kinte Tobey.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Does it really matter if Palin’s parents were lower middle class or upper working class? The point is that she wasn’t a spoiled Hawaiian dope pretending to be Kunte Kinte American.

Speedwagon82 on July 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM

FIFY

:]

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I’d never vote for him at all again, based on how he’s treated her.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Which other Republican would you like to see as President? You seem very active politically. Which rep. are you hoping to volunteer for?

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

LOL!

No.

IrishEi on July 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM

…airheaded, dripping with condescension, and completely missing the point…

Yep, that pretty much sums up Our Girl Peggy.

pilamaye on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Kay Bailey Hutchison is a complete sell out, deserting conservatism along with John Cornyn, effecting a uniparty.

Peggy Noonan wanted Kay Baily Hutchinson to be the VP. If you go back and listen to her open mike comments(with Chuck Todd) during the election, she was caught saying something along this line. She had a problem with Sarah from the moment she got nominated to VP.

kangjie on July 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Actually, Noonan’s open mike conversation was with Mike Murphy, GOP strategist and former Mitt Romney operative. Murphy wrote a hit piece on Sarah Palin for the NY Daily News earlier this week.

bw222 on July 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM

When Hutchison takes on Perry for GOP TX GOV. I hope she fails to succeed. Perry is not without sin, but a hell of a lot better principled conservative Republican than Hutchison. Her choice to leave Washington is simply to destroy the GOP in Texas via division to enable the DNC to reconquer. Damned if LBJ didn’t leave the nation in similar circumstances as Sherman’s March effected. Democrats ruling the SW border means there will be absolute open borders.

Given unbound Mexican illegals and cartels, where’s the fence and border national security we paid for, Sen.Hutchison? AS IF we need to eliminate current immigation laws (comprehensive reform) in order to enforce any laws!

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

However, the system now is impossible. It’s a case of “Don’t bother to even try.”

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

But there is a fix, and it’s simple.
1. To the best of our ability, prevent illegal border crossings.
2. Deport those found here illegally who have committed crimes.
3. Enforce current law.
4. Go back to the pre-1965 standards.
A. Economic sponsorship of immigrants
B. No pubic assistance program eligibility
C. Eligibilty based on skills.

Not realy hard; we used to do this.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Why does anyone bother to read Noonan any longer? She loves Obama and hates Palin. What else need we know about her.

Log on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

OT: Sotomayor supporters probing background of firefighter

Nice. Hey Peg, these are the people you wanted us to support in ’08.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Is it not obvious to you that she plays on your embroils our own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

As a Leftist, this is what you really meant to say.

(Keep it real)

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

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Noonan was Reagans’s speech writer, yes? Why yes yet remember this, Reagan was Noonan’s editor. Reagan is gone and this has probably been Noonan’s mindset all along. Peggy Noonan just doesn’t have an editor anymore. People need to come to that realization that it was Reagan who reined in Noonan. Noonan rarely shows the true conservative language anymore because the shackles of her mentor are no longer there. This WSJ article she wrote about Palin would never be allowed to see the light of day if Ronald Reagan was still her editor. Peggy is better affiliated now in the wilderness of elitism mentality. Moreover, Peggy Noonan’s credibility continues to wane with the conservative base. Peggy has figuratively floated away from us because Reagan’s not here to keep her writing grounded in conservatism. Peggy Noonan herself now better represents the other side of the political spectrum.
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Americannodash on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Doctor Zero– Great post, as always.

No, this is a semi-coordinated hit job mean’t to totally destroy Palin the person – not just the politician.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I voted for Romney in the primaries and really liked him. I’m beginning to wonder the same things you’re saying about Romney and if he isn’t just like the rest of the politicians. Disappointing.

If Palin “has no political future,” then why must they continue to remind us of this “fact”?

I’m American, thanks for asking.

massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM

+1!!!!!

conservative pilgrim on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

OT: Sotomayor supporters probing background of firefighter

Nice. Hey Peg, these are the people you wanted us to support in ‘08.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

I want a list of those Soto supporters.

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

No.

IrishEi on July 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM

I figured as much.

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

CapitalistObserver on July 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM

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As the son of the union of a coal miner’s daughter and a WWII regular joe, and as someone who grew up in a developing tri-racial ghetto during the 60s… never had that problem.

RalphyBoy on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

What else need we know about her.

That she voted for McCain;

JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I want a list of those Soto supporters.

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

1. Linday Graham
2.

portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I hope Sarah makes a ton of money on the speech circuit and writing a book.

John the Libertarian on July 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Yeah, me too. I already donate to her and I will buy her book.

cjs1943 on July 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

ortlandon on July 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM

lol

You forgot Michael Steele lol

bluelightbrigade on July 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM

your own petty class resentments?

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Peggy’s

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM

If you look Ms. Noonan up on Wiki (yeah I know) she wrote some beautiful speeches for Pres. Reagan but apparently she also contributed the now famous “Read my lips, no new taxes” and “kinder, gentler nation”. I would imagine her sap factor was always pretty high.

Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM

It’s vintage Noonan: airheaded, dripping with condescension, and completely missing the point.

That’s the most accurate and succinct description of Noonan I’ve ever seen. Nothing more needs to be said.

+100

BacaDog on July 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Which other Republican would you like to see as President? You seem very active politically. Which rep. are you hoping to volunteer for?

It’s way too soon for me to tell. I’m still giving Obama a chance, although several of his initial bills confirmed to me, anyway, he’s a lightweight. He really is nothing more than a community organizer. Roll out a national program, slap a label on it, name a Czar……move on. That’s ineffectual politics.

Palin has been tied down to a chair in Alaska. Not that she’s wiggled loose, I’m curious as heck to see what she’ll do with this opportunity. (She definitely is a natural.)

Locally, I’m upside down, even with my “moderate” Dem senator. She supports EFCA (I’m totally opposed) and doesn’t support public option on healthcare (I’m totally in favor). Arghhhh* on that level. I’m already thinking to vote against her for the first time. She’s a moderate that has not suprised or displeased me until now.

Locally, my rep is GOP. He’s been in for years. I have no quarrel. He is a “steady-as-you-go” type, works with both sides of the aisle, and isn’t a grandstander.

AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Peggy needs a gerontology eval, stat.

clnurnberg on July 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Ms. Noonan doesn’t need a gerontology eval, she needs a brain washing…..

Nurse! Two high colonics stat!!!

Vntnrse on July 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM

your own petty class resentments?

That’s the current PC newspeak to usurp your own personal identity as nothing beyond a petty class content.

Of course, the only “petty” class is the non-elite.

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM

If Palin “has no political future,” then why must they continue to remind us of this “fact”?

conservative pilgrim on July 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Wish-fulfillment.

ddrintn on July 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM

OT: Sotomayor supporters probing background of firefighter

Axelrod’s dirty fingerprints are all over this; “opposition research” indeed.

runner on July 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I would imagine her sap factor was always pretty high.

Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM

“a thousand points of light”
“compassionate conservative”
also her claims to fame?

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Actually I see this as a positive development.

The more the blue blood elitists step out into the limelight during this crisis the easier it is to identify them for the coming purge.

The conservative movement is being reborn. The old blue blood neo-cons are angry and frustrated because they feel they are being left out, and they are right.

WichoFawkes on July 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM

That’s the current PC newspeak to usurp your own personal identity as nothing beyond a petty class content.

Of course, the only “petty” class is the non-elite.

maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Good grief. Listen to yourself. You sound like a Marxist.

crr6 on July 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

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