A Seemingly Very Nice Middle-Class Girl
posted at 11:00 am on July 11, 2009 by Doctor Zero
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Peggy Noonan used her Friday column in the Wall Street Journal to throw some dirt on Sarah Palin’s grave. It’s vintage Noonan: airheaded, dripping with condescension, and completely missing the point. No serious conservative needs to hear anything from Noonan except her groveling apology for being so horribly wrong about Barack Obama, who she energetically supported for president. However, it’s worth picking through the flotsam and jetsam of this embarrassing column, to appreciate the kind of intellectual fat that conservatives need to trim from the Republican Party.
Let’s begin by setting the stage: Sarah Palin resigned her governorship last week, and has no stated plans to run for elective office as of this writing. She has made it clear that she intends to remain on the public stage, and has a bright and useful future of public speaking, writing, and helping her party raise funds for 2010 and beyond. I personally disagree with the assessment that her resignation killed her political future, if she wants one. It will be an obstacle for her to work around, but I think she could overcome it – especially if Alaskans are clearly pleased with her successor, and think well of her as the 2012 elections get under way.
After referencing the way “The left and the media immediately overplayed their hand, with attacks on her children,” Noonan says of Palin:
She went on the trail a sensation but demonstrated in the ensuing months that she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be. She was hungry, loved politics, had charm and energy, loved walking onto the stage, waving and doing the stump speech. All good. But she was not thoughtful. She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.
I always thought the Wall Street Journal had editors that would review columns to make sure they don’t have annoying run-on sentences that don’t use commas but maybe they don’t and never will. Poor sentence construction aside, Noonan couldn’t be more wrong to say Palin’s point of view “could have been a form of liberalism.” No, Peggy. A charismatic woman espousing a form of liberalism would never have to suffer attacks on her children in the media. People who swallow forms of liberalism are never required to understand the first thing about conservative points of view. They aren’t really expected to know anything about the intellectual history of liberalism, either. Barack Obama couldn’t articulate the principles of conservatism if Thomas Sowell hacked into his teleprompter and fed him the words.
Later, Noonan zeroes in on the moment Palin decisively lost the “moderate Republican” snob vote:
She couldn’t say what she read because she didn’t read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. “I’m not wired that way,” “I’m not a quitter,” “I’m standing up for our values.” I’m, I’m, I’m.
Palin doesn’t “read anything,” you see. She’s probably not even literate. The moment Noonan is fretting over came when Katie Couric asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads regularly, and she couldn’t name one. Given the cratering circulation of print media, Palin is clearly in good company. I suspect the sin that truly damns her in Noonan’s eyes is her failure to read Peggy Noonan columns. At least America was spared the horror of a Vice President who doesn’t spend much time reading newspapers. Instead, we got a Vice President who should have left his debate with Palin in a straitjacket, and shows no sign of coherent thought at all.
Of course, it’s risible for a breathless supporter of the Lightworker, Barack Obama, to criticize anyone else for self-referential speech. Obama couldn’t deliver a movie review of “Transformers 2” without referring to himself thirty-five times. Maybe Peggy could publish some guidelines on how often female Republican candidates are allowed to refer to themselves, per minute of speech, without being guilty of arrogance. Would she feel better if Palin talked about herself in the third person, like Bob Dole?
Dismissing the affection conservatives supposedly feel for Palin because of her “working-class roots,” Noonan sneers:
She is not working class, never was, and even she, avid claimer of advantage that she is, never claimed to be and just lets others say it. Her father was a teacher and school track coach, her mother the school secretary. They were middle-class figures of respect, stability and local status. I think intellectuals call her working-class because they see the makeup, the hair, the heels and the sleds and think they’re working class “tropes.” Because, you know, that’s what they teach in “Ways of the Working Class” at Yale and Dartmouth.
… and you’ve got that “Ways of the Working Class” textbook on your desk, don’t you, Peggy? I’ll bet it’s heavily indexed with Post-Its, sticking out from the thick pages in a pastel rainbow. Does anyone else find it surreal that she tries to dismiss Palin’s alleged pretensions to middle-class origins by explaining that her father was a school track coach, and her mother was the school secretary? Whoa, you got her there, Peg. She might pose as a moose-hunting soccer mom, but she was to the manor born. What fools we middle-class conservatives were, to accept this scion of soccer-coaching royalty as one of us, just because she hid her imperial velvet beneath a plaid shirt.
Of the idea that Palin made the Republican Party look inclusive, Noonan snarls, “She makes the party look stupid, a party of the easy manipulated.” Well, that’s what they say at the high-toned Washington cocktail parties, where the elite liberals keep Peggy Noonan as a pet, so it must be true. The vast number of Palin admirers will be thrilled to know that Peggy Noonan thinks they’re stupid. I’m sure that will make them rush right into the waiting arms of Noonan and her weak-tea wing of the GOP.
Speaking of phony appeals to middle-class roots, here’s what Noonan had to say about her Prince Charming, Barack Obama, back in 2008:
He climbed steep stairs, born off the continent with no father to guide, a dreamy, abandoning mother, mixed race, no connections. He rose with guts and gifts. He is steady, calm, and, in terms of the execution of his political ascent, still the primary and almost only area in which his executive abilities can be discerned, he shows good judgment in terms of whom to hire and consult, what steps to take and moves to make.
No attempts to manipulate voters with sob stories about humble upbringings in Barack Obama’s biography, no sir!
Noonan responds to the charge that “the media did her in” by saying “her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in.” Remember, an Obama supporter wrote this. For Peggy’s dreamboat, a replicated Greek temple shows appropriate modesty when giving a convention speech. She probably swooned when Obama modestly spent fifty million bucks on his inauguration, prompting outgoing President Bush to declare a state of emergency, to release federal funds for the event.
Granted that the older column I quoted above was written a couple trillion wasted tax dollars ago, before the advent of Turbo Tax Tim and the rest of Obama’s Epic Fail Cabinet, but you still have to love the way Noonan celebrated Obama’s “good judgement in terms of who to hire and consult.” He sure knew how to pick a spiritual advisor, that’s for sure! If only Sarah Palin could have the good judgement to consult with aging hippie radical terrorists, Peggy might finally admire her for something more than being “a very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.” By the way, Noonan delivers this backhanded compliment immediately after the paragraph where she declares Palin’s middle-classness to be a fraud.
Noonan could have used this column to praise Obama’s good judgement in hiring a deranged eugenicist who favors forced abortions and mass sterilization as his “science czar.” Why did she waste it pouring salt into Zombie Sarah Palin’s mouth and sewing her lips closed, so she could never rise from her political grave to threaten Republican voters again? Here’s why Peggy made the effort to snap you out of your stupid, illiterate, soccer-coach-daughter-loving trance:
Here’s why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.
Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.
It never occurs to Noonan that those “glimmers of actual secessionist movements” might be caused by freedom-loving people fleeing the “actual genius and true judgment” of the shady, unqualified junior senator she couldn’t wait to sweep into the White House. Hey, Peg, that “admission of bankruptcy” you’re quivering about? That’s coming because your boy Obama crashed the economy, looted the treasury of the future to serve the ultimate pork dinner to his faithful allies, and appointed fools and frauds to supervise his programs. He’s trying to pass a ludicrous energy plan that will cost each American family thousands of dollars, and guarantee a recession for decades to come. If America doesn’t rally to stop him in 2010, he’ll bury what’s left of the moribund economy under the bloodless husk of a nationalized health-care industry. If McCain had won in 2008, then immediately resigned for health reasons and left Palin in the White House, would she have cost us less than a trillion dollars? If so, she’d be a bargain compared to the nightmare Peggy Noonan helped to unleash.
Noonan is symptomatic of a defeated, collaborative wing of the GOP that wants nothing more than to be thought well of by the Left, which they believe has decisively won the political and cultural battles of the twentieth century. Their idea of a “conservative” is someone who can eke out a small discount on the price tag of mammoth liberal programs. Their goal in 2012 is to find a bland, pleasant, “moderate” Republican, who can win the approval of the media mullahs as a “serious candidate,” then lose gracefully and give America’s First Black President his second term. The idea of serious conservative reform terrifies them: radical overhaul of the tax system, dramatic reduction in the size of government, a system that compels Congress to live like humble servants of the people instead of Renaissance royalty… Who will throw those wonderful cocktail parties in Washington, if the conservatives burn half the city down? Who will tell Peggy bedtime stories of dashing social engineers with titanic government schemes? Where will she find hip, exciting statists she can celebrate with schoolgirl treacle, like this nonsense from her 2008 endorsement of Obama: “Something new is happening in America. It is the imminent arrival of a new liberal moment. History happens, it makes its turns, you hold on for dear life. Life moves.” She was on to something with that last bit. Obama has made a lot of American businesses think about moving.
In her conclusion, Noonan writes, “And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.” This is frothy, delusional milk, sprayed on top of a long, boring latte of condescension. Nothing could be less serious than fawning over a hollow President, who wastes his citizens’ time with absurd fantasies about multi-trillion-dollar health care takeovers, piled on top of an already astronomical national debt. The latest polls suggest the public is becoming impatient with the infantile antics of the party Noonan thought should control both houses of Congress, and the presidency. If Peggy wants to see what an unserious, immature party looks like, she should watch video of Nancy Pelosi stammering about how the CIA lied to her, or leaf through the avalanche of scandals engulfing nearly every major Democrat. She could complete her education by dropping by to watch Al Franken squatting in his brand-new Senate seat.
I have a suggestion for the Wall Street Journal: make this Peggy Noonan’s farewell column, and hire Sarah Palin to take her place. Peggy could head over to the Huffington Post, where she’d be received as a martyred hero. The Journal’s circulation would skyrocket. This economy needs a success story.
Okay, okay, here’s the actual link to the Noonan piece. Trust me, you’re better off clicking the one at the top of the page.
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Is it just me or is Peggy Noonan getting old and taking it out on Sarah Palin?
Mr. Joe on July 11, 2009 at 11:05 AM
What Noonan reveals when she writes about Palin, is how she and the rest of her gang truly feel about us.
We get the hint Peggy.
darwin on July 11, 2009 at 11:06 AM
I was hoping that this would slip under the radar. Same old people saying the same old things.
Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Meanwhile Ted Nugent backs Sarah on “Firearms Today” radio show
Sarah is the Grassroots candidate not the political class candidate.
That is what is wrong too many times with the GOP. It is alsmot like a Caste system within the party
(see below link for what I mean)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_caste_system
The GOP has to break that system to be functional.
William Amos on July 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM
She’s an idiot. I don’t care whose speeches she wrote.
blink on July 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Well I will say this much, at least she does not go completely in the gutter like Andrew “Trig Trutherism” Sullivan does on a regular basis.
Mr. Joe on July 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM
darwin, that is exactly correct. That is exactly what Noonan thinks about the rank and file “base” of the GOP and Conservative movement.
Mr. Joe on July 11, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Color her irrelevant.
Noonan’s a thorn in the foot of the conservative movement. Time to remove the thorn and move on. In a very short period of time, we will forget we even had the thorn.
fogw on July 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I don’t read Peggy Noonan…sounds as if she really wants to be in the cool crowd.
d1carter on July 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
++++
the_nile on July 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Dear WSJ,
Can Noonan. Hire Zero.
aquaviva on July 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Dear Peggy, I know when you hear “teacher” you think ivy league professor, and when you hear “school secretary” you think executive assistant to Warren Buffett, but I assure you they are not the same.
Maybe you should ask Todd to take you up to the north slope and show you around, preferably in February.
Best regards,
some middle-class nobody
vermillionsky on July 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I stopped reading her articles long ago….she rather play nice with the (D)s than stand with the (R)s….give her a show on MSDNC
cmsinaz on July 11, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Did the Nooner vote for Obama? If so, that combined with her anti conservative bashing, why does she get the conservative label? We have few spokesmen in the msm and of the few we do have, they are really donks.
Blake on July 11, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Peggy Nooncompoop.
Jim Treacher on July 11, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Those who can run for Governor. Those who can’t write speeches for them.
flyoverland on July 11, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Great sentence.
myrenovations on July 11, 2009 at 11:13 AM
First, Doctor; excellent presentation of ideas in your post, as always.
Many years ago, Ms. Noonan wrote speaches for Ronald Reagan. She was relevant. She has hung on to a pseudo- version of that relevance ever since, by reminding people that she work for Reagan.
In all of the anger she spreads over Governnor Palin, I have to ask – have they met? Does Ms. Noonan actually know the Palin’s?
Most of what I see in the Noonan pieces is either the recycled hit-piece points, (she doesn’t read!, etc.)
But mostly, I get the sad feeling it’s just Ms. Noonan, clinging to the last little bit of her relevance.
Pathetic.
massrighty on July 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM
And “lightworker” crap is “as serious as the age”?
Peggy needs a gerontology eval, stat.
clnurnberg on July 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM
What has happened to our party??? This is why we are in the state we are. These idiot elitist so called Republican’s say this crap and it is spread all over by the MSM(or state run media)…
We still have learned that we MUST stick together….
reshas1 on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
She has the female version of penis envy.
Tim Burton on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
I agree that Noonan is one pining for the good ole’ days in the GOP.
However, there have simply been too many sharp turns which have turned off blocks of voters. Anti-immigration? OK, but don’t ask Latinos to vote for you. Anti-affirmative action? OK, but lose the black vote. Anti-abortion? OK, but don’t look to moderate women to back you. Pro-slime techniques in politics, OK, but it’s a turn-off to most Independents.
You can’t put together effective coalitions with all these non-inclusive agendas.
And no “bland” GOP candidate will be able to “nuance” the truth well enough. This isn’t a case of bad speeches. It’s a case of old, stale thinking!
I’d say even healthcare reform should be examined by conservatives. REALLY examined. No more fear stuff about how it will kill private business. Nobody buys that. No more pretense that the GOP is fiscally responsible, either. They obviously were NOT when given the power.
She’s absolutely right about the need for smart thinking to revive the party. I personally think she’s wrong about the “how” of that.
Maybe some of the conservative pundits should run for office.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Noonan solo (without Reagan) is often iffy.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
That’s a tell right there. Leading up to the 2008 elections she was on MSDNC more often than Lawrence O’Donnell.
Not exactly a feather in your cap, Peggy.
fogw on July 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM
William Amos on July 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Very well stated my friend!
Second that!!!
Keemo on July 11, 2009 at 11:17 AM
So what? Given the nature of criticism from anyone of Noonan’s good friends on the left, they haven’t done so either. I can’t even begin to understand who raises and educates these people. Why bother trying to learn about their thinking when their thinking makes no sense whatsoever? Life’s too short, and there are too many problems to address. I see no reason to waste time analyzing so much about liberal nonsense?
BuckeyeSam on July 11, 2009 at 11:17 AM
What is it with these old has been hags?Just a few days ago Liz Trotter went off on Gov.Palin just like Noonan just did.I think they can,t stand a good looking Consev. women who is the real deal and does not want or need there old worn out advice.They don,t have the power they used to have and much of the consev. base do not care what they think.They need to just go away and take David Frum,David Brooks and the rest of these elites with them.
thmcbb on July 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Peggy doesn’t even write well.
ndulik on July 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Sarah Palin has everything Peggy Noonan doesn’t: youth, beauty, a following, name recognition, a HAPPY MARRIAGE, actual accomplishments, conservative values and sobriety.
If you have followed Noonan over the past five years, you will notice that she has not aged well. She is about to turn 60 and looks every day of it. Perhaps she needs to spend several hundred thousand on cosmetic surgery (e.g. Kathleen Parker) to feel better about herself.
Noonan demonstrates her jealosy of Palin and contempt for average Americans (although Farleigh-Dickenson – Noonan’s alma mater – is definitely average).
bw222 on July 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Nailed it, Doctor Zero! No further comments necessary!
atemely on July 11, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Dr. Zero,
Assuming you’re male, are you married?
katy on July 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM
It’s a good thing Palin owns a pair of waders, boots and thick rubber gloves. She won’t have to buy any when she gets to DC. Her intelect should be challenged as she is able to quote Abraham Lincoln and to speak 3 sentences in a row without a teleprompter.
kringeesmom on July 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM
You’ve blurred the lines. It isn’t anti immigration. It’s anti illegal immigration. If one offends an ethnic bloc by asking laws be enforced, it that old, stale thinking?
a capella on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
I thought Sarah showed how dumb she was when she said “I’ve been in all 57 states” and when she said “Stand up Chuck”. And how about “I voted for it before I voted against it”. Remember how we all laughed when she said she hadn’t learned to speak Austrian?…………ER….Wait a minute……… my teleprompter needs a battery.
Herb on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Peggy Noonan’s claim to fame “I worked for Reagan” has worn out it’s creds. She buries her lack of respect that Reagan had for the working class grassroots of America in purple prose and rhetorical florish.
If anything, her support of Obama has proven that SHE is the weak minded fool that she tries to project onto us who support Sarah. After all…..Obama is the candidate that speechwriters dream of, and prop hands adore.
Goodbye Peg. Turn in your Reagan card at the door on your way out.
portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Advancing Noonan and Powell’s careers was the greatest mistake President Reagan ever made.
Lou Budvis on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Getting hard to follow Piggies logic in her old age. Sarah’s Dad was a school teacher in Alaska so she is not middle class but Obastard was raised by his white bank VP granny and he arose from humble beginnings ?
She is playing for the other team and is actually too insulated and senile to know it. She needs to be put in a home where she can be supervised before she hurts herself. Poor dear.
DeweyWins on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Nice one, doc.
Midas on July 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Some quotes from the article:
Yes, Peggy, she was nothing without the elites of the party. The elites were responsible for her rise from PTA mom to Governor of Alaska. If anything, the elites damaged her brand and now, Sarah has to re-introduce herself to the American public as the independent leader many of us know her to be.
LMAO! Nice try, Noonan, but we remember your open-mic moment the week she was chosen. Your friendliness lasted all but a few days.
yogi41 on July 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Easy katy.
Hey look, a double entendre!
:-)
fogw on July 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM
No, it’s more than that. Obama reaffirmed that our immigration policy will be defended. McCain really had excellent ideas on immigration.
No, the shout-down about his bill? There was absolutely too much racism expressed by too many GOP members.
It killed any hope for retaining those voters. I can’t say that I blame them, can you?
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Liar. anti-illegal immigrant, and anti-welfare for immigrants.
Let’s switch to affirm. action for Asians and buy their votes instead. Black affirm. action is so yesterday.
“Moderate” = kill babies? Maybe in CA.
Clinton, Pelosi and Reid, Acorn, Edwards, etc.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I’m an old people so don’t lump me in with Noonan, please
Herb on July 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Peggy is upset Senators are not trying to put their hands on her inner thigh anymore.
Mr. Joe on July 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Two more wrong. One more screw-up and I’m afraid you’ll have to go home.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
heh!
katy on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
When will the palinistas let this go. They are still attacking anyone they can find, including ad hominem attacks, who had a less than flattering view of palin published anywhere. The bitterness is bordering on sociopathic. Rather than being pissed at Palin for destroying their dreams of an anti-abortion president by upping and quitting elected office, they attack any and all who might agree that this is what happened.
keep the change on July 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
First, Peggy thinks too much.
Second, this is Peggy’s audition for the title of “Chattering Class Czar.”
moonsbreath on July 11, 2009 at 11:27 AM
It’s interesting how Obama’s failures are also highlighting Hillary’s lack of success as SOS. Luckily, the voters will see that both of them were clearly wrong for America. Palin isn’t being seen that way. Obama and Clinton elevate her image.
JiangxiDad on July 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM
It’s just one more example of the wave of discontent among conservatives. While she’s fretting about the republican party, we’re already worrying about where we’re going to find good conservative leaders who won’t wear the GOP party label condom. And you’re right – - as she trashes Palin she trashes all the rest of us.
kens on July 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM
1. In America, the working class IS the middle class. Keep up, Peggy.
2. Look around you. Look at how much statism we are already subjected to. Look at who’s in office, and what they are trying to perpetrate on us. No less than the destruction of America as a nation of limited constitutional government and individual liberty.
This is the work of the journal-and-newspaper-reading conservatives Peggy Noonan approves of.
Exactly.
3. Nice job, Doctor Zero.
J.E. Dyer on July 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM
I have my own method. When they bring up the reading? Then I know they have bought hook, line, and sinker into Couric’s interview. Palin’s admission that she was offended by the question is disbelieved.
They really do not think the woman reads.
That’s a dead giveaway that it’s yet another hit job on Palin.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM
She is turning into Marlo Thomas.
RobCon on July 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM
We don’t even get to define who and who is not a conservative and what and what not the party stands for. People who endorsed Obama and voted for him are called conservatives. See the problem here? Someone stole our right to define ourselves. When we try to seize it back, we get crap like Ann and AP about how we must be everything we are not in order to attract mythical voters.
Blake on July 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I’m not a fan of Noonan’s. However, I thought she did a fairly decent job of articulating the concerns that many conservatives have about Palin, especially in the last few paragraphs.
JA on July 11, 2009 at 11:30 AM
About the only thing in that piece that I agree with is the listing of colleges. Other than that, Noonan jumped the shark many moons ago.
Techie on July 11, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Dear Doctor Zero, your dissection of Peggy Noonan is brilliant and thorough. You have her peggyed. It’s hard to believe this airhead once wrote valuable contributions during the conservative Reagan years, but has now come to represent so much of what’s wrong with the elitist, hypocritical, vapid, liberal media. Does Her Royal Highness ever condescend to interact with commoners?
Noonon’s statements about Governor Palin are just as skewed as her statements about candidate and President Obama, just in the opposite direction.
Loxodonta on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
I did like this Red State on Sarah Palin.
Peggy, you definitely have the right to your opinion on Sarah Palin. You just don’t express it very well, and yet managed to reveal a lot of unintentional bagage about yourself that most of us find annoying.
Mr. Joe on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Nice take down.
Is there any other middle aged woman who would write this mush:
and not be embarrassed? 17 much?
Topsecretk9 on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
It sounds like Peggy Noonan,Sally Klein,Debbie Schlessel,& Maureen Dowd all go to the same Hair Salon.
portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Hey, Blake….I’m Independent. But the voting trends are very clear and obvious.
Either the GOP finds a solution, or it will remain a very small party.
I personally did NOT find Palin to be anti-immigration, anti-affirmative-action, or even anti-abortion. Her position on abortion was the same as Obama’s pretty much. Now, she might have made some different real decisions. But she wasn’t rabidly anti-abortion at all.
She appealed to the right-wing, but she didn’t strike me as being what they thought.
I liked her take on stuff.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Reagan said he did not leave the Democrat party, it left him. When will common sense republicans realize that their party gave them the dump about two years ago? You should let Peggy and her ilk keep their GOP, it’s only a moniker.
paulsur on July 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM
How about we link this nice piece to Noonan herself?
katy on July 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Two really good articles I came across you all might enjoy. Don’t be put off by the title or the tone of the first paragraphs in this one. And I never thought I’d see the day that a liberal journalist actually conceded that Palin won the vice presidential debate, hands down.
Noonan and many others are doing their darnedest to bury Sarah Palin so deep she never rises again. I can’t believe that a week after she announced her resignation, she’s still causing Noonan and the other snobs heartburn. And I really do hope that Palin gets the last laugh.
ProfessorMiao on July 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Noonan was a speech writer. That was her job. She does not and never has had a say in conservative policy. As to her speechwriting, years ago, she was shown the door and she has been bitter about it ever since.
The only use for writers is that they express the views of what people are thinking, theoretically, more articulately. However, Noonan stopped reflecting the views of republicans years ago. She is no longer relevant and I am tired of her being forced down our throats.
Blake on July 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Many? I’m afrain not. But thanks for the Noonan-type projection.
fogw on July 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM
So you have to go around PROCLAIMING your middle class status in order to be legit? Maybe that’s what Noonan does – but she’s a liar.
Fact is – WHAT IS MIDDLE CLASS?
I submit … this is important to consider …
I submit this is important to consider also …
And “The One” … records show he never gave substantially less than one percent until he started running for president.
I submit Peggy Noonan is a liar and an attention whore. The only way this hag gets into the news these days is by dishing dirt on a good woman – a woman who is her better.
HondaV65 on July 11, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I’m sorry, but the phrases “putting on airs” and “uppity” are just screaming between the lines.
How egalitarian of you, Peggy.
(meant to put this in earlier)
Techie on July 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I think they just dislike her intensely. The second article was really good. I’ve been saying the same thing.
Oddly enough, I just finished reading Clinton’s MY LIFE book, and he says the same thing, too.
The media is all about power.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I won’t bother to defend Noonan’s take on Palin because Doctor Zero’s post barely manages to attack it. Noonan was wrong about Obama, yes. Maybe you should have linked to that article.
RightOFLeft on July 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Sorry – I’m a bit of a tough grader and things like facts are important to me when someone is making an argument. Noonan skews the facts and outright lies in her arguments.
HondaV65 on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
And how is that? Track coach and school secretary not qualify as “working class”? She’s basically “illiterate”?
I think Dr. Zero nailed it.
Techie on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Either we become donks or we stay conservatives. I don’t care what you are nor do I really want your vote. As I have pointed out ad nauseum, historically, the party that is currently in the WH will be out in 1 or 2 terms. The solution is not to become democrats.
Blake on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I will say this. If Palin doesn’t expand on her thinking, she’ll probably lose me more quickly than some of you. I thought her level and depth was perfectly appropriate for the VP run. Nobody gives a dang about her ideas. She was HIS sidekick.
However, she now needs to get past generalizations when the opportunity seems right.
I wouldn’t expect her to ever be the wonky type, but she does need to have a fully fleshed out philosophy that can be articulated.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Oh, and why does no one see the link at the bottom of the page?
Techie on July 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I was referring to the chattering class, ie Noonan, Brooks, Frum, Parker, etc. etc. Not an original thought amongst them The media needs to catch on that once these folks start promoting Dems they no longer count as the token Republican. And yet they still can’t understand the decline in subscriptions. Probably that Ivy League education that they seem to think is mandatory.
Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
LOL..I’m gonna use that.
Doctor Zero…me thinks a new star is born in you.
RobCon on July 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
That’s my university which I got an BA and MA from. The uber-leftists professors proclaim Noonan came to the school as if she were something to be proud of. I roll my eyes in disgust.
Elitism is an attitude. You can come from any university and not have that snobbery. What Noonan lacks is something not learned in any university and that is common sense, which Palin has loads of.
I am a huge supporter of Sarah Palin and hope she runs and wins in 2012.
jencab on July 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
There doesn’t seem to be a person in the pundit class that “gets” Sarah Palin. That should be a warning shot over the bough. I can barely name five that I know that are solidly behind Palin. That’s OK. I prefer folks that I can count on in a pinch. Know your enemies.
Peggy Noonan has a problem. I don’t know if she thinks there is a market for Palin hit pieces or not. It appears that all so called journalists need a place to sell their wares and not too many are finding those places. The stuff that sells is negative. I refuse to click on anything that I think will get traffic for these negative, nattering, nay-bobs(sorry Spiro Agnew). Peggy Noonan is now officially down the black hole of journalism for me. I need truth and she is pretty much out of the loop. So long, Peggy.
BetseyRoss on July 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
How does that make her different from any other potential candidate at this point?
What is Mitt’s “specific” plan??
What is Newt’s “specific” plan??
Actually – they both keep CHANGING their plans to fit the political winds. I’d rather have a vague plan at this point – than one that is subjected to expiration dates.
HondaV65 on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
It’s too bad we don’t ever hear a lot about the members of the media. My guess is that professional courtesy as in “honor among thieves” keeps the world from knowing that these people are so scummie that they make our politicians look like members of the choir.
Cindy Munford on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Is there NO WAY for us to file suit against these pompous idiots and stop’em from MISREPRESENTING themselves as “Conservative” or even “GOP”? They are no more conservative than Andrea Mitchell.
Pets of the liberal media elite is EXACTLY what they are. They’re just too stupid to know it. Hell- they probably believe in ‘man made global warming’ too. Idiots.
ExTex on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Obama’s grandmother who raised him was VP of the largest bank in Hawaii. Didn’t know that did ya.
RobCon on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
IMO, anyone ‘conservative’ who voted for Obama lost any credibility they might have had previously as a conservative. The guy’s farther left than any democrat since FDR, and had been his entire (if brief) political career.
ProfessorMiao on July 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Most pundits are a part of the elitist class of the GOP. They support the GOP Ayatollahs.
HondaV65 on July 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
No tent big enough.
Immolate on July 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Fixed.
portlandon on July 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
White House battling its own recovery.org about stimulus politics
The Administration cant seem to keep from trying to spin the recoveryact as postitively as it possibly can.
William Amos on July 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Haven’t posted in awhile, but this one was worth it.
Nice job, Doctor Zero. This was an intellectual beat-down.
watchmen on July 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Peg. It will come back to you
Randy
williars on July 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Very true. And I think the person who has a real vision will be the one to recreate the “big tent.” Frankly, that’s exactly what Reagan did. (I was no, nor ever will be, a fan of his. But I saw his political assets.)
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Sure.
Jim Treacher on July 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Noonan is stuck in her own god complex.
maverick muse on July 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
For me, Noonan making statements like these discredit any points she was making. The seething over the top generalizations point to a dislike that have little to do with Palin’s policy or her skill as a politician. It all just smacks of “that dumb hick probably can’t even read.” It’s transparent and disgusting.
Thanks for letting us know what you think of the little people, Pegs.
BakerAllie on July 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Does anybody read her column anymore?
ErinF on July 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Since liberalism is a progressive mental disorder, I can remember Noonan in the early stages of the disease. She, at times, could be very credible. Now as she degenerates towards the veil of mental regression it proves that mental illness knows no party affiliation. Those like her need to go to the dims and let the GOP return to their conservative ways without the RINOS doing just enough to make the GOP obsolete. I, like millions of others, could not vote for McCain and will never vote for anyone who cannot be trusted.
volsense on July 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Peggy? Is that you?
Immolate on July 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
The pundits have no clothes. Any of them, frankly.
I personally became very interested in politics during the election because I had the time to read, keep up, etc. I found within months that none of the punditry seemed sharp to me, able to conjure up specifics to back their observations, etc.
They are good only when discussing one single event/point. Summary pieces? Boy, they flopped badly.
AnninCA on July 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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