CNN: US willing to talk with Mullah Omar

posted at 4:31 pm on July 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

CNN’s Michael Ware goes into Taliban territory in Pakistan to report on the progress of the war in the Af-Pak theater. Ware gets two scoops from the Pakistani military. First, they admit that they maintain at least some intelligence contact with Taliban leadership, and the Pakistanis reveal that they have offered to broker cease-fire talks between the US and the Taliban in Afghanistan, and even a bigger scoop at the very end:


The effort in Afghanistan is much more complicated than what we faced in Iraq. People talked about Iraq being a civil war, but Afghanistan is the real thing — and it’s also a tribal war, which makes the problem even more complicated. At the end of the day, the Pashtuns will have to learn to live with everyone else without attempting to dominate them through force of arms and theocracies, or someone will have to carve out a Pashtunistan to leave them by themselves. Eventually, some settlement has to be made that will end the fighting. That means we will have to talk with someone.

However, Mullah Omar is hardly a man to be trusted with compromise. He has given no indication that he wants one anyway, and his past actions speak loudly towards his trustworthiness. Omar is a tyrant who cannot be allowed back into power just to set up Afghanistan once again as a terrorist base of operations.

And Obama cannot seriously consider tossing India aside in order to get into talks with Omar. Even acting symbolically to shift towards Pakistan in their dispute will undo the careful diplomacy and partnership conducted during the Bush administration to bring India closer to the West. Talks with Omar aren’t worth a plugged nickel, and certainly not worth abandoning India for Pakistan, especially while India continues to get victimized by terrorist attacks originating out of Pakistani territory.


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“I apologize Mullah Omar. Please forgive us.”-Obama

portlandon on July 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

What language , hellfire or JDAM?

the_nile on July 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

And Obama cannot seriously consider tossing India aside in order to get into talks with Omar.

Isn’t India the only ally Obama hasn’t kicked in the nuts, yet?

lorien1973 on July 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

I just wonder is Obama willing to talk to Fox News? I mean since they are the MOST watched channel on cable, you’d think he’d want exposure on some of their top programs.

He’s willing to talk to enemies, but not Americans. He’s tough.

ThackerAgency on July 10, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Sweet! Thank you Obama.

Firebird on July 10, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Isn’t India the only ally Obama hasn’t kicked in the nuts, yet?

lorien1973 on July 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Shhhhhh…he thinks they are related to Native Americans.

WashJeff on July 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Iraq at least had some semblance of modernity

Afgh is a mudhole

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

i’m sure oboobi and the one eye jackoff would be good buddies.

SHARPTOOTH on July 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Foreign Policy? We don’t need no stinkin’ foreign policy. It’s another distraction. The money is in universal health care, and cap-n-tax.

Skandia Recluse on July 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM

i’m sure oboobi and the one eye jackoff would be good buddies.

SHARPTOOTH on July 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Had this image of Obama and Omar Ogling a some women. Omar lifting his patch to get a better view.

WashJeff on July 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Isn’t India the only ally Obama hasn’t kicked in the nuts, yet?

lorien1973 on July 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Shhhhhh…he thinks they are related to Native Americans.

WashJeff on July 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Thanks for the snicker.

UltimateBob on July 10, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I thought courting India was one of the wisest things Bush did. Now Obama is willing to use it up in order to talk to Mullah Omar?

grahampowell on July 10, 2009 at 4:43 PM

I wouldn’t trust Omar as far as I could throw Obama’s bus…I say let our Predator Drones do all the talking!

Liberty or Death on July 10, 2009 at 4:43 PM

We’ve got plenty of hamburger to trade.

Fletch54 on July 10, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Hey…..India’s a parliamentary democracy….of course Obama will treat them like dirt.

Patrick S on July 10, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Okay, who was surprised by this?

Not me.

cozmo on July 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

WashJeff on July 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

yeah, i can picture oboobi with omar on the step together in stead of sarkoky…could be enough to make the one eyed jackoff turn on the taliban… would be fun to see.

SHARPTOOTH on July 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Funny. According to the wise Peggy Noonan, Sarah Palin is so stupid she doesn’t even know what to think about Pakistan. Hmm. I’m guessing Palin would know not to do this.

The world is upside-down.

NebCon on July 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

The Cairo speech will eventually get them all to come around.

Green Muse on July 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Funny. According to the wise Peggy Noonan, Sarah Palin is so stupid she doesn’t even know what to think about Pakistan. Hmm. I’m guessing Palin would know not to do this.

The world is upside-down.

NebCon on July 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

My dog, Fred, the pug is smart enough to figure this out. And he is as dumb as a friggin’ stump (but I love him anyway – he’s my favorite liberal)

Looking forward to hearing some common sense on the subject from SP.

turfmann on July 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM

I truly do not think we can “win” in Afganistan. This area has seen war for hundreds of years, and the British and Russians have both tried to impose “peace” in the region. The Taliban are clever bastards who knew that this is the perfect area to take cover in. There is a whole lot of history in this region that people are not paying attention to.

That said, our own troops are seriously hamstrung by the pansy assed way we go about these missions. War is war, it is not a “feel good” listening tour. There will always be civilian casualties, there will be mistakes in the midst of battle, but by damn quit making our guys be some branch of the peace corps, and let them be what they are – part of the finest military in the world. Let them fight, let them win, because they can achieve the objectives given them – if the damn politicians don’t get in the way.

Had to get that off my chest.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Funny. According to the wise Peggy Noonan, Sarah Palin is so stupid she doesn’t even know what to think about Pakistan. Hmm. I’m guessing Palin would know not to do this.
The world is upside-down.
NebCon on July 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

obarfy doesn’t have the foresight to know there is no future there in afgh without staying there fighting an asymmetrical war for DECADES. only that will bring any sort of demonstrable change, if we are lucky. And that to me is completely unpalatable

that place is hopeless

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM

What language , hellfire or JDAM?

the_nile on July 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Used to work on JDAMs – brings back good memories.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM

And Obama cannot seriously consider tossing India aside in order to get into talks with Omar.

Scoff if you must!

SouthernGent on July 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Exactly my point!!! Just let our guys waste the Taliban and get the heck out of there. Let the regional rivalries murder each other – they have been doing it for centuries.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM

This sort of thing is why if/when we get hit by the terrorists again it’s going to crash Obama’s approval into the teens…

wildcat84 on July 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I bet India will be the next one under the bus.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Anytime they make nice with these creeps, they give away the rights of girls and women. It’s disgusting that a girl can be beheaded for going to school. And that is exactly what the Taliban will do if they gain power.

Blake on July 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM

God help us if we get hit again under Obambi, because he and Rahmbo will use it as an excuse to inter the opposition…

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Isn’t India the only ally Obama hasn’t kicked in the nuts, yet?

lorien1973 on July 10, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Their time is coming.

Torch on July 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM

It is tribal
it is Islamic and tribal
there is NO technology
no modernity

it is something we should accept

I for one will no longer support a war in which us soldiers are dying to rebuild a nation that holds sharia law in high regard

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM

What language , hellfire or JDAM?
the_nile on July 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Used to work on JDAMs – brings back good memories.
catlady on July 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM

puurrr

Anyway
I shouldn’t say I won’t support the efforts like I did above

just frustrates me

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM

CNN also reports that Obama has agreeed to talk with his estranged father Lucifer, but it has not been confirmed.

Meanwhile, Mullah Omar has broken off talks with Allah due to a disagreement over honor killings.

RandyChandler on July 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Send Hillary!

Laura in Maryland on July 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Makes sense! Barry will only attack if you’re A) Small Business owner B) Have your own health care coverage and want nothing to do w/ govt controlled care.

WhatsRight on July 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

So Pakistan is worried about India, but not so concerned about the fact that the Taliban essentially runs the northwest provinces of their country? That doesn’t exactly ring true. Pakistan has been playing on both sides in this for decades.

The problem is that the Taliban can run into Pakistan for sanctuary and Pakistan won’t let the US and NATO follow them, and won’t go after them themselves. It seems that they’re perfectly fine with giving them sanctuary as long as things don’t heat up too much in the parts of the country they’re still trying to keep Taliban free.

And now they want the US to dump one its best allies in the area? This is nuts.

ProfessorMiao on July 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Wonder what Afganistan’s carbon footprint is. Is it enough to get Waxman interested? Has anyone seen Man-bear-pig in the caves there? Maybe we can get Al Gore to investigate. (I’m super cereal)

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM

It is time for us all to join Code Pinko and protest at LaFayette Park. It’s Obambi’s war now, and I’ve turned peacenik!

We need to scream with every casualty and every sacrifice of life from our brave soldiers that OBAMA is responsible now.

Laura in Maryland on July 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

ProfessorMiao on July 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Good point. I hope India has the balls to deal with this and ignores Obambi’s peace love and sunshine bs!

Then again, India is having it’s own governmental problems.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM

I just want Obambi to officially “own” the economy.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM

O/T but, i just glanced at sarah palin’s twitter feed (guess i am pretty bored today!):

….”Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they’re not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen” W. Cronkite

homesickamerican on July 10, 2009 at 5:12 PM

The only “talk” we need with Omar is:

Prepare to die.”

End of dialog.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Obama will yet snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

GarandFan on July 10, 2009 at 5:12 PM

This sorry-ass administration makes one want to puke.

rplat on July 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Makes sense! Barry will only attack if you’re A) Small Business owner B) Have your own health care coverage and want nothing to do w/ govt controlled care a patriotic American.

WhatsRight on July 10, 2009 at 5:03 PM

FIFY

Daggett on July 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM

There’s only one thing I want of Omar

What are your current coordinates?

MarkTheGreat on July 10, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Even acting symbolically to shift towards Pakistan in their dispute will undo the careful diplomacy and partnership conducted during the Bush administration to bring India closer to the West.

Undoing anything that Bush did is worth any price to these morons.

MarkTheGreat on July 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

India is a real democracy with a powerful, growing, capitalist economy. So OF COURSE Obama will walk away from it. Duh!

rockmom on July 10, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Then again, India is having it’s own governmental problems.

catlady on July 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM

I travel to that region frequently, and I am not aware of any such issues. They recently had a fairly peaceful election, with the ruling party coming back to power in a landslide, and their prime minister is a pretty well-respected economist who was the architect behind India’s open trade policies.

So can you please tell us exactly what issues you are talking about?

peter_griffin on July 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM
It is time for us all to join Code Pinko and protest at LaFayette Park. It’s Obambi’s war now, and I’ve turned peacenik!
We need to scream with every casualty and every sacrifice of life from our brave soldiers that OBAMA is responsible now.
Laura in Maryland on July 10, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Do I sense a sarc

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if mullah Omar turned out to be one of Barry’s old teachers from the madrassah?

JiangxiDad on July 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM

I have to assume that Pres. Obama looks at this as no pain solution for the U.S. but what would be the impact to the citizens of Afghanistan and Pakistan be? Considering how well Pakistan’s last little treaty with the Taliban went I can’t imagine they would want to expand on it.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2009 at 5:51 PM

In other wonderful news about the war in Afghanistan, the joke the Democrats ran against Chimpy in 2004 is going to chair Afghan War “oversight hearings” soon.

By the way, did you folks know that he served in Vietnam?

Del Dolemonte on July 10, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Oh yea, let’s set up a meeting. The first mud hut across the Pakistan border, coordinates 456987. 11 am Saturday morning. Omar brings the coffee and will provide a heat source to cook it up.

See ya there….

Oh wait, Obamabi is charge now…. nevermind.

Hog Wild on July 10, 2009 at 6:19 PM

What language , hellfire or JDAM?

the_nile on July 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Yes, please!

bryan2369 on July 10, 2009 at 6:25 PM

‘America cannot win the war in Afghanistan’.

I don’t care what’s at the end of this; I’m not going to listen to anymore of this limey’s bullsh-t. I’m sure his ilk said the same thing about when the British occupied our country, and we decided to evict them. Just because they (and the Russians) get their asses kicked fighting people like Afghans, doesn’t mean we will. What this jackass fails to wake up and recognize is the militarily historical significance of the 1st month of the war: a force of only about 100 US Army Special Forces operators went in ahead of groups like the 3rd ID (and all other conventional forces), and after taking over groups like the Northern Alliance, toppled the country’s illegitimate government, virtually singlehandedly. No, that jackass is probably too stupid to know that; it’s not just that he doesn’t understand.

Virus-X on July 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Of course Precedent Hussein wants to talk to Mullah Omar. They are simpatico. I’ve even heard that our Precedent thinks it would be neat to force Honduras to accept Mullah Omar as their new President – killing two birds with one stone, there …

Oh how I long for the days when we didn’t have traitors running our government …

progressoverpeace on July 10, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Virus-X on July 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Killing tons of Taliban isn’t going to reverse the seventh century backwardism, tribalism and islamism that is deeply rooted in that country

I for one am sick of guys getting blown up so afgh can have sharia law

blatantblue on July 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Obumbler will, as always, help out the side that hates the USA and democracy the most.

He is amazingly consistent on that point.

jukin on July 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Whats wrong with talking to him? I would be happy too. “Would you like a last cigarette? Blindfold?”

meci on July 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM

meci on July 10, 2009 at 9:05 PM
I agree with you! But our President wants to share his Hello Kitty comforter and watch Dora the Explorer with these thugs instead of disposing of them.

yoda on July 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM

If Barry talks to Omar, directly or indirectly, then Barry is Omar.

Limerick on July 11, 2009 at 12:57 AM

Obama would glad-hand Zombie Hitler. Then he’d apologize.

Maquis on July 11, 2009 at 1:43 AM

Mullah Omar would love to make out with Obama now for awhile. We have them on ropes and they are now talking truce. BULL SHIT!!
Now is time to surge and drive stake in their hearts. They need time to regroup and re-supply. They are down to buying children for suicide bombings. If Obama starts talking peace, which I suspect he will, then God Help US!!!
We would be the biggest FOOLS to call truce now. That is their plan.

Ed Laskie on July 11, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Ed Laskie on July 11, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Well said.

progressoverpeace on July 11, 2009 at 2:26 PM