The only health crisis we have is the mental ailment of people who think that insuring more people will cost less and that government is skilled at providing healthcare systems.

Neither is true, but if Obama says it and the voters want it then that’s all that matters… but it still will not happen.

virgo on July 10, 2009 at 2:25 AM

This is the thing that really scares me most about the die-hard Obama supporters. You can give them a solid, factual, backed up argument about how Obama is going to crush this country with his plans, and they just come back with “But Obama says!”. Its frightening how sucked in some people can be!

I don’t think anyone would argue we need some change in healthcare…it’s in dire shape.
So, you’ve bought the lie.

I don’t care what they do, as long as they attempt to fix it instead of going with the status quo and bankrupting Americans who are trying to put up with skyrocketing premiums from the insurance crooks.

dcwvu on July 9, 2009 at 6:53 PM
And the talking points.

I like my health care and I don’t want to pay for yours.

ROCnPhilly on July 9, 2009 at 8:32 PM

C’mon ROC, there are some aspects that can be agreed upon have a marked impact on costs.

1) Medical Tort reform to bring down costs to doctors, which should bring down costs to the consumer.

2) Put in place a mechanism to compel those who could be insured if they so choose. Many simply choose not to pay for insurance or some don’t carry insurance that are already eligible existing programs for Medicad/care and SCHIP (kids).

These are the commonsense and easy approaches that these idiots in DC should be going after.

I like my health care and I don’t want to pay for yours.

ROCnPhilly on July 9, 2009 at 8:32 PM

You and me and 80% of the American people. We are already subsidizing the twenty somethings who would rather buy a big screen television than buy insurance, not to mention the 20 million illegal aliens that don’t pay for theirs.

The moderate and coal-belt Democrats in the Senate doomed cap-and-trade, and now the Blue Dogs in the House may put the brakes on nationalizing the health-care industry. If Obama can’t get either of those packages out of Congress this summer, he will suffer a humiliating defeat at the hands of the friendliest Congress he will ever have.

If only FDR had had these problems in 1933, we’d live in a much better world!

Obama will be a far worse president than Bill Clinton, because Bill Clinton retreated into moderation after his health care fiasco and ruled effectively as a moderate. Obama lacks the flexibility to be anything but a leftist ideologue. Of course, “bad presidents” mean less major legislation. I’m all for less major legislation, which always seems to be lunatic. I could like the next three years.

Neither is true, but if Obama says it and the voters want it then that’s all that matters… but it still will not happen.

he will suffer a humiliating defeat at the hands of the friendliest Congress he will ever have.

Sweetest words I have heard in a long time.

Well, it looks like the Left’s plans for protesting like it was 1968 for Obamacare turned out to be a resounding failure.

After their being punked in North Carolina, ACORN and MoveOn protesters were given an encore performance in both New York and …

Pithy. Concise. Perfect. In one sentence you just won this entire damn argument.

House Dems rebel against health-care reform

Don’t let your guards down.

More Health Insurance is Not the Answer
When someone else pays, costs always go up

A New Plan for Health Care
Dr. Jay Parkinson and Dr. Garrison Bliss on the idea of promoting the concierge care.

DerKrieger on July 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Also, the government must absolutely stop regulating the provenance of health insurance. Here is why we all get insurance through our employers: During WWII, the government passed wage and price controls to keep companies from offering higher wages to the few workers not sent to fight in the war. Congress then allowed employers to offer health insurance as an incentive. Whatever the merits of that idea, it was conceived at a time when we were fighting a total war. It is ridiculous that the plan was allowed to continue after the war. However, like all government plans, it is here forever.

I’m with you, DK, I just signed up with my company’s HSA plan. In a few years, when I have the account built up, I will bring the family over from the PPO plan offered by my wife’s employer.

DerKrieger on July 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Just curious: is that HSA through your employer?

My wife and I pay about $500/mo for our individual HSA. If you’re “only” paying $57 a month through an employer-sponsored plan, the difference between your premium and ours is your lower cash wages.