Video: DeMint exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senate
posted at 6:56 pm on July 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
You have to wade through a few minutes of rather dry exposition from Senator Jim DeMint before getting to the real meat of the exchange between DeMint and the presiding officer, Senator Kay Hagan. DeMint wants to offer an amendment requiring a GAO audit of the Federal Reserve to an existing bill requiring other GAO audits of other agencies, notably the National Transportation Safety Board. Democrats object under Rule 16, which restricts amendments according to germaneness, and DeMint goes to town:
Why target the amendment dealing with the Fed? After all, the Obama administration wants to expand their power over the financial industry. While I’m not a believer in the Fed-is-the-root-of-all-evil school, expanding their power should come with an expansion of transparency and oversight of the quasi-governmental entity. If it now has more official regulatory power, then its actions should be subject to audits to ensure against abuses and fraud, just as with any other regulatory body — such as some of those mentioned in this very bill.
If nothing else, it’s hilarious to see Hagan admit repeatedly that Democrats broke rules themselves that they want enforced on Republicans. It’s political hypocrisy at its finest … or lowest.
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And the media looks the other way.
DaBird on July 8, 2009 at 6:59 PM
wow.
moonbatkiller on July 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM
The Federal Reserve Board is definitely ‘governmental’. Don’t really understand the “quasi” qualification, Ed.
Regards, by the way. Love the site.
clorensen on July 8, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I’ve seen a few updates about this on facebook. I’m not sure that DeMint and Paul are pushing for Audit the Fed simply for more transparency due to the fed has more official regulatory power now. I think it’s more that they want to make sure the feds books are actually matching what the fed is saying.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Why audit the Fed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soPRyeE3gvM
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Jim DeMint for President, 2012.
(I know I’ve said it before, and I’m going to keep saying it. He’s not exciting or charismatic or a member of some “oppressed” minority group, but he’s right more often than he’s wrong.)
AZCoyote on July 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
DeMint 2012! (barring some un-forseen sex scandal!)
ThePrez on July 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
The socialist democraps are truly disgusting.
Zorro on July 8, 2009 at 7:16 PM
I’d vote for him.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Why lookie there. It’s my Senator, Mr. Nelson, with another ear-mark that our state doesn’t need. I wonder who he is paying off for what.
PappaMac on July 8, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Well, Bernie Sanders (
DS – Vermont) supports this…Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Just finished the video.
Worth watching. Also why isn’t DeMint getting more consideration as at least some sort of candidate on a Presidential ticket?
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Not important.
Just wait till some Dem proposes that Jacko be enshrined on Mount Rushmore…the media will be all over that one…and in favor.
coldwarrior on July 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Hehehehehe….nice pwning of the ‘rats in general and Nelson in particular.
Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Democrats are starting to scare me. Really.
ronsfi on July 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Why can’t the people on both sides of the aisle follow the rules.
If it violates rule 16, that’s fine. But everything that violates rule 16 should not be allowed including things that people have no objection to.
The rule is either important and serves a purpose or it’s not important and can be ignored until the majority wants to use it to block an amendment they don’t like on purely procedural grounds.
If it is important, it needs to be followed even if people don’t object to what’s being added.
If it’s not important, get rid of it so people can stop blocking things on technicalities.
JadeNYU on July 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Because the Democrat’s Caucus now has enough votes to stop any Republican only filibuster?
Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Loxodonta on July 8, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Romney DeMint 2012
Theworldisnotenough on July 8, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I’d prefer Huck, but DeMint is way better than Romney. Put me down for a vote if Huckabee doesn’t run.
Wolftech on July 8, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Let me be the first to say, though I haven’t yet seen the video, this pretty much ends any sort of chance for higher office this guy might have had.
Editor on July 8, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Because not following the rules carries no penalty.
Maybe this video can be admitted in evidence to a legal challenge submitted to SCOTUS?
Theworldisnotenough on July 8, 2009 at 7:32 PM
I’d sooner vote for McCain again then Romney.
Huckabee/DeMint (with Palin for Sec. of Energy or Interior)
Wolftech on July 8, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Has Huck… or Romney… or Palin even talked about auditing the Fed? Anyone know?
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Signed an audit the fed petition at the tea party on the 4th… I got all vocal in favor of the petition while signing so as to attract more signatures. Signed an audit the fed petition at the tea party on the 4th…
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I got all vocal in favor of the petition while signing so as to attract more signatures. ‘Well, they’re gonna audit me soon I’m sure, so damn straight I’ll sign…’ Some folks came over to the table while I was there, I think to see what I was all excite about… *smile Some folks came over to the table while I was there, I think to see what I was all excite about… *smile
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RalphyBoy on July 8, 2009 at 7:36 PM
When I said in the earlier Libertarian thread that I could count the solid conservatives on one hand, there’s one. Bravo, DeMint.
LastRick on July 8, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Maybe you should watch the video before offering commentary. Of course, if that is sarcasm, please include the proper tag for those of us that have had our sense of humor removed by ObamaCare (TM).
Wolftech on July 8, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Yes, agreed.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Allah: Of course DeMint has to be deranged because he shows up on Beck…
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM
I don’t know how to search the archives but wasn’t there a recent post about the Federal Reserve Board of Governers being circumvented by Obama somehow? There were 4 other agencies involved, all dealing with the banking and money supply. Thanks to anyone who can help.
fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Once you’ve come to realize how the Fed actually is the root of all evil (including the financial crisis and our subsequent glorious new Depression), you won’t have to wonder why the Democrats don’t want it to be audited.
Rae on July 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Auditing the Federal Reserve, as much as I would like to, exposes the US to National Security risk as it would tell the world the true state of our State(which no other countries have to reveal) and if it turns out the audit is ugly (which it is) there would probably be a run on our currency which could wipe us out. I don’t think it wise to open that Pandora’s box.
Punditpawn on July 8, 2009 at 7:42 PM
AZCoyote on July 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I really like DeMint too, another honest down to Earth person in a sea of pinheads…the GOP leadership hate him according to that seat of hackery Politico, he apparently is always arguing with McConnell, another reason to support him IMO
ginaswo on July 8, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Did you hear about the latest Greenpeace stunt? They unfolded a huge picture of O’bama on Mt. Rushmore for some silly reason.
Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Planning the money supply and socialist economic planning is not the same thing, it’s not the same league, it’s not even the same sport.
Socialist economic planning is about trying to get around the invisible hand of the free market. The Fed is trying to use the invisible hand of the free market.
Somebody has to control the government’s money supply.
Who should do it, if not the Fed? You got an answer for that?
apollyonbob on July 8, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Although I agree that after auditing the Fed, there could be huge problems, let’s not forget that it would not be THE REASON for these problems. America might need to rip off that bandage. We keep spending, but if the world knew just how broke we were, maybe we couldn’t get anymore loans. Protecting the Fed is the equivalent to enabling Big Government.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Anyone know if Maverick and Butt Boy Graham are supporting DeMint? Couldn’t find anything online…
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:46 PM
God bless Jim DeMint. That man is one of our best.
WisCon on July 8, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Well done Jim…though sometimes I do think that pointing out the hypocrisy of the Dems is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel.
Paradox Drive on July 8, 2009 at 7:47 PM
As I’ve said before, they are no longer worried about the hypocrisy. “They won”
GarandFan on July 8, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Did anyone notice that it’s Ben Nelson of Nebraska who objects on the Point of Order and then DeMint points out the only earmark in the bill is from Nebraska?
INC on July 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM
If you want more posts, Ed, just relabel
Video:
DeMintPalin exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senateor
Video:
DeMintRomney exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senateor
Video:
DeMintHuckabee exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled SenateUpstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Thanks for posting this Ed. Dr. Paul needs help passing this bill in the house and the senate.
nazo311 on July 8, 2009 at 7:54 PM
My God…
The GOP Senators need to shut the Senate down over crap like this. Get out there and object to EVERYTHING. Every little procedural motion or vote. EVERYTHING. Bring the Senate to a halt. Maybe then the media will take notice and the GOP can get out on the air and show this crap. Explain WTF the democrats are doing.
I’m glad Senator DeMint exposed this, but will you see that video anywhere else? Will you hear about it on the news? I doubt it.
KSgop on July 8, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Beck’s been following this.
This is the first I’ve seen any significant post on HA.
We’ll see…
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:56 PM
No, central banks are about controlling any market that seeks to be free. Example: America 2009.
Transparency would just reveal what America’s forefathers could tell us without an audit. They battled against the central banks’ attempt to control America for over 200 years before we learned to stop fighting and love Alan Greenspan for setting up a timebomb. Expanding their power is pure insanity on the level of Cap and Trade or medieval bloodletting cures.
When all is said and done with America, the root cause of our demise will not be Barack Obama or Cap and Trade, but the central banking system oligarchs who back both. Obama us just the guy who volunteered, and could be trusted, to pull the trigger for them to put us out of our misery as quickly as possible. We’re volunteering to look the other way and hand him the gun as the nation is thoroughly looted prior to being destroyed.
econavenger on July 8, 2009 at 7:57 PM
This is the kind of bull that is driving the whole Tea Party movement! It is outrageous!
On another note; Demint in 2012?
Star20 on July 8, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Striking how it is all done with such a straight face.
Scrappy on July 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM
As said above, I’d vote for him.
Don’t know why there hasn’t been more talk about him. He’s one of the few remaining cons staunchly sticking to his guns…
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Because the Republican National Committee, in their wisdom, has decreed that backing a white male from a Southern state will smack of Jim Crow.
guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Every time I see DeMint in the news, I end up cheering what he has to say.
A plurality of the Board is elected by the Federal Reserve member banks. The Chairman and a little over half of the Board is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. So the government has strong influence on their decisions, but not control.
Chris_Balsz on July 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM
This is the kind of bull that is driving the whole Tea Party movement! It is outrageous!
On another note; Demint in 2012?
Star20 on July 8, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Certainly a man deserving the title SENATOR.
fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Well, the RNC is laughable.
I guess I’m wondering why more people on here don’t support him. I didn’t know a whole bunch about him, but I could get behind someone that is against abortion and opposes more federal spending.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM
DeMint is terrific. He was one of the men who along with Sessions was tag teaming to defeat amnesty a couple of years ago. I think they used procedure as one of their weapons than as well.
I noticed that Sessions was also there on the floor.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:07 PM
DeMint is in his first term as a Senator. He’s up for re-election next year.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:07 PM
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Other than WG Harding, JFK & BHO (former senators) most of, if not all of them had executive experience(governors). GHWB & Truman were former VP’s, Eisenhower was a five-star general, Hoover was the United States Secretary of Commerce & WH Taft was the Secretary of War.
Americannodash on July 8, 2009 at 8:09 PM
*I forgot LBJ was a former VP too.
Americannodash on July 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Look at his web site. He has been busy, especially liked his statement on the Honduran crisis.
fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Ya know…Michael Jackson died
scottm on July 8, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Demint backed Romney as the best choice for president.
At least he is not prejudice like most here.
PrezHussein on July 8, 2009 at 8:16 PM
His statement on Honduras was terrific. He pulled no punches about Obama’s actions:
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Don’t say things like that unless you can back it up with hard data.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Otherwise it’s just a smear worthy of the Left and the Dems.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Do as the Dems say, not as they do as always
jdsmith0021 on July 8, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Although I executive experience should be helpful, I would think that a leader could that had also served in the Senate would be more than qualified for being President; however, I didn’t say he should be on the top of the ticket. My question was as to why he wasn’t even being considered. There are many senators (with little to no governmental executive experience) that have been considered.
Finally, perhaps it’s time to break some of the patterns that history has given us. I’m sure up for that.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Yeah, I saw he was against Zelaya… but I don’t have your website… ;)
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Kay Hagan is the newly purchased (by Chuck Schumer, who ran ridiculous ads against Elizabeth Dole making fun of her age) Senator from NC who is only in the Senate thanks to straight ticket democrat socialist voters who say only skin color as their reason to vote. She’s as dumb and hypocritical as she appears in the video.
SouthernGent on July 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I would guess DeMint wasn’t considered as Veep because DeMint was one of the heroes who helped defeat amnesty. McCain would never, ever have picked him.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Was that the parliamentarian she kept looking at to know whether to say yes or no?
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Yeah, Maverick doesn’t really like the real mavericks… Anyway, why not be considered in 2012? I’m open for discussing this. Let’s weigh his pros and cons.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM
I didn’t mean who DeMint endorsed–just the statement about prejudice.
Cut and pasted too much!
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Yeah, I saw he was against Zelaya… but I don’t have your website… ;)
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM
I am to dumb to have a website. I need the veil of anonymity.
fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 8:26 PM
OK… DeMint will back Romney (2007)
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Oh, sorry.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Janet Napoleon will take it away from you.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I’m all for DeMint as Veep. We need him in the Senate full time to help hold back the night. He’s one of the few.
He was in the House for six years before running for Senate in 2004.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:29 PM
No problem.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Question – doesn’t “Madam President” Hagan got the power to overrule the objection? She admitted, on record, that this is a double standard. She is the one who should be held to the fire. She could have overruled the objection from the senator from Nebraska. Hypocrites!
DINORight on July 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I’m not finishing my thoughts!!
I’m all for DeMint as Veep rather than spending time next year raising money and starting to look to the WH. We need him in the Senate full time to help hold back the night. He’s one of the few.
INC on July 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Hehe… thanks.
You’re right.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM
…that should read: doesn’t “Madam President” Hagan have the power….
Clicked too soon.
DINORight on July 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Why would not liking Romney be prejudiced? I don’t like the RINO for his policies. I wasn’t a fan of McCain either, but voted for him simply because he was the lesser of two evils, plus McCain had the more qualified backup. I supported Huckabee during the primaries and will do so again should he chose to run again.
Wolftech on July 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it’s perfect that Senator DeMint wants to audit the Federal Reserve?
The Monster on July 8, 2009 at 8:33 PM
No, it’s catchy.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Heh!
I enjoyed watching my fine Senator (Hagan) being forced into admitting “Yes, we Democrats are hypocritical Communists bent on bankrupting the country while suppressing any oversight.”
mankai on July 8, 2009 at 8:34 PM
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All do respect sir, I disagree.
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James Warren DeMint (born September 2, 1951) has been a U.S. Senator from South Carolina since 2005. He had previously represented South Carolina’s 4th congressional district from 1999 to 2005.
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Prior to entering politics, DeMint worked in the field of market research. In 1983, he founded his own research firm, the DeMint Group. He was president of this corporation until 1998.
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Americannodash on July 8, 2009 at 8:35 PM
The Fed is going to target his re-election. They do this all the time. All the Congressmen who voted against the Federal Reserve Act lost reelection the following term.
The love of money is the root of all evil. Does anyone understand this?
Christ is presenting a deep and fundamental teaching, one pertinent until His return on Mt Zion.
The good Senator needs to watch his back. He’s going against the most powerful mafia there is, the banking cartel.
True_King on July 8, 2009 at 8:35 PM
I know this. I thought you were previously referring to holding a governmental executive position. This is why I said he had leadership abilities.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Fine i will change it to anybody who supported the RINO and Bigot Huckabee is prejudice
PrezHussein on July 8, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Found this on Little Green Footballs 2:
“The system of banking is a blot left in all our Constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction. I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
“The end of democracy, and the defeat of the American revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.”
“If the people ever allow the banks to issue their currency, the banks and corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
“Paper is poverty… It is not money, but the ghost of money.”
“There is an artificial aristocracy, founded on birth and privelege, without virtue or talents… The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions should be made to prevent its ascendency.”
“The bank of the United States is one of the most deadly hostilities existing against the principles and form of our Constitution. I deem no government safe which is under the vassalage of any self-constituted authorities, or any other authority than that of the nation, or its regular functionaries. What an obstruction could not this bank of the United States, with all its branch banks, be in a time of war? It might dictate to us the peace we should accept, or it might withdraw its aid. Ought we then to give further growth to an institution so powerful, so hostile?”
James Madison
“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible, to maintain their control over governments, by controlling money and its issuance.”
On the second attempt of a Central Bank.
Andrew Jackson
“You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal god, I will rout you out!”
On the third attempt.
Abraham Lincoln
“The money powers prey on the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes.
I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.
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“No duty is more imperative on the government than the duty it owes the people to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labor will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.”
President Woodrow Wilson, dissembling after signing into law the Federal Reserve Act.
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.(ed:no shit, Sherlock)
A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation therefore, and all our activities, are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world. No longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Congressional Record, June 15, 1934)
“Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the government of the United States.
It controls everything here; and it controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and Federal Reserve Banks.
These evil-doers have robbed the country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be returned to the people. The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept.
What is needed here is a return to the Constitution of the United States. The old struggle that was fought out here in Jackson’s day must be fought over again.
The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve Banks — having violated their charters — should be liquidated immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial.
Unless this is done by us, I predict the American people — outraged, robbed, pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land — will rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money changers from the temple.”
True_King on July 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM
As much as I don’t get all hot and bothered by Huckabee, there’s no evidence that he’s a RINO (Republican in name only) or that he’s a bigot… Well, I shouldn’t say “no.” Perhaps you have some for us.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM
If nothing else………..
………. this should be an RNC commercial running night and day.
Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM
No, dumbass.
Expanding their power requires a Constitutional amendment.
LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Lincoln, Jefferson, and Jackson weren’t exactly pillars of either the Conservative (well, perhaps there’s an argument for Lincoln) or the classical liberal movement…
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM
And most definitely not Wilson!
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Upstater85
Give me your definition of RINO and BIGOT and I will show you how Huckabee fits your definition
PrezHussein on July 8, 2009 at 8:44 PM
RINO is an acronym for Republican In Name Only (not to be confused with CINO — C = conservative)
Bigot: A person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Upstater85 on July 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM
That was nice, but for gosh freaking sakes. Maybe if he had pointed some more fingers and raised his voice a bit somebody might notice. As it stands nobody will care about this except sites like HA. Nobody.
WitchDoctor on July 8, 2009 at 8:48 PM
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I would prefer him to stay in the senate. We need leadership there as well. Besides Upstater, being a U.S. senator is not really on the same level as a state governor. Governor’s have a full time job. Senator’s have breaks between sessions hence, not a real full time job responsibility and are not held as accountable to their contingents as a governor is. Governors are held accoutable for their decisions whereby a U.S. senator is only accountable for their votes. It is not the same level of respective representative responsibilities by no means.
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