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Stimulus fizzle has Democrats worried

posted at 12:49 pm on July 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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And well they should.  Democrats put down an $800 billion bet and locked Republicans out of the room in placing it.  They know their party and their President completely owns the results — and those aren’t looking good at all.  And like any bad gambler, they want to double down on a lost hand:

Five months after Congress approved a massive package of spending and tax cuts aimed at reviving an ailing economy, the jobless rate is still climbing and the White House is scrambling to reassure an anxious public that President Obama’s prescription for economic recovery is on the right track.

Yesterday, Obama took time out of his first presidential trip to Moscow to defend the $787 billion stimulus package, arguing that the measure was the right medicine at the right time. “There’s nothing that we would have done differently,” he told ABC News.

Back in Washington, senior Democrats on Capitol Hill were nervously contemplating whether additional government stimulus spending may be needed to pull the nation out of the worst recession since the 1930s. Senior administration officials acknowledged that the effects of the stimulus package have been overshadowed by an unexpectedly sharp drop-off in employment since the measure passed in February. But they reported that only about $100 billion has so far been spent and that as increasingly large sums flow out of Washington, the program is on pace to save or create 600,000 jobs over the next 100 days.

“It is clear from the data that there needs to be more fiscal stimulus in the second half of the year than there was in the first half of the year,” White House economic adviser Lawrence H. Summers said. “Fortunately, the stimulus program designed by the president and passed by Congress provides exactly that.”

But that wasn’t what the White House or the Democrats promised when they passed Porkulus.  Barack Obama’s economic advisers demanded fast action, rather than reasoned debate and negotiation, to adopt their recommendations in order to avoid a spike in unemployment in the near term.  They got what they wanted — a spending plan that funded just about every liberal fantasy of the last 30 years, save universal health care — and it didn’t do anything to stop rapid unemployment.

Why did it fail?  Michelle links to a GAO report that shows that the White House lost control of Porkulus spending from the very beginning.  States receiving Porkulus money used it to hide budget deficits instead of creating jobs, and the GAO cannot effectively track the money in any case:

Overall, states reported using Recovery Act funds to stabilize state budgets and to cope with fiscal stresses. The funds helped them maintain staffing for existing programs and minimize or avoid tax increases as well as reductions in services.

States have implemented various internal control programs; however, federal Single Audit guidance and reporting does not fully address Recovery Act risk. The Single Audit reporting deadline is too late to provide audit results in time for the audited entity to take action on deficiencies noted in Recovery Act programs. Moreover, current guidance does not achieve the level of accountability needed to effectively respond to Recovery Act risks. Finally, state auditors need additional flexibility and funding to undertake the added Single Audit responsibilities under the Recovery Act.

Here’s where we get into the “saved or created” dodge of the Obama administration.  The Porkulus money may have “saved” jobs, but they were government jobs, not the private sector.  Most government employees have union representation, primarily by the SEIU.  The only jobs Porkulus may have saved were those of bureaucrats in state government, and mostly to make sure the unions stay on the side of the Democrats.

None of that money went into promoting growth in the private sector, which is why unemployment skyrocketed.  Capital stayed out of the market, in part because of fears of confiscatory tax increases and in part because of the amount of regulation threatened by the Obama administration, and what capital was left will get eaten up by the cost of Porkulus eventually.  And the GAO says it will take months just to get effective reporting on how that money gets spent, regardless of where it goes.

Now, Democrats want to do this all over again, saying that all they need to do is bet just a little more to erase their losses.  I’d say we need to cut our losses, and the Democrats as well.


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Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Who is this “michael steele” fellow?

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

And like any bad gambler, they want to double down on a lost hand

At least a bad gambler uses his own money.

Democrats? I says vote them all out. The revolution starts in 2010.

Look out pencilnecks, the American People are coming for you.

the_souse on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Yeah….kinda like “you can’t disprove God” – the linchpin logic for mankind’s greatest racket.

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

You guys see this?

News leak shows Obama in free fall in new shocker poll
July 8, 1:28 AM
Examiner

A news leak has surfaced concerning a new poll to be published Wednesday by Rasmussen Reports, showing that Barack Obama is now in a shocking free-fall in terms of overall public support for his policies.

In a stunning glimpse of the new poll, Generational Dysfunction, which reported the news leak, said the following:

Prepare yourself for tomorrow’s release of the Daily Presidential Tracking Poll. Obama’s Presidential Approval Index dropped a full percentage point today. The poll is a rolling average of the last 7 day’s polling. Tomorrow will be the first day that the entire poll has included questions related to the latest unemployment numbers.

For the Presidential Approval Index to drop a full percentage point in one day must mean that the trending is significantly lower.

The drop of a full percentage point in one 24-hour period is uncommon. This means there is a significant shift in public sentiment concerning Obama’s job performance, although his personal likability remains high.

If these new numbers are correct, they would only confirm the trends observed in various polls over the past 2 weeks. For example, an astounding number of Americans now refer to themselves as ‘conservative’ as opposed to ‘liberal,’ and they believe that Barack Obama is more liberal than they are. In addition, public support for energy taxes (Cap and Trade), taxpayer funded bailouts, and Obama’s overall performance on the economy, is at an all-time low.

Chuck Schick on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Where are the trolls?
Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM
They seems to be fading away one by one, but it is a vacation week and that may account for it.

jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Thank you…may I have another…

right2bright on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

They seems to be fading away one by one, but it is a vacation week and that may account for it.

jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

These are liberal trolls…are you sure they have a job to vacation from?

right2bright on July 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM

jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Their funemployment checks have run out and they are residing in starbucks now.

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Don’t worry the state run media will be telling us, at first, politicians were responsible. Then it was a bi-partisan bill. Then it will be a another failed republican deficit, budget busting bill.

jukin on July 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Whenever you run into an Obama supporter, repeat these
“three” simple words: It’s.the.economy.stupid!

Sit back and enjoy their reaction.

Christien on July 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Maybe I’m suffering from new math, but that looks like 4 words to me.

MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

5 if you count the contraction.

MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM

…. there needs to be more fiscal stimulus in the second half of the year than there was in the first half of the year.

I alway looked at Summers as the smart one in the room. Silly me.

Harpoon on July 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Maybe I’m suffering from new math, but that looks like 4 words to me.

MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Joe Biden math…

right2bright on July 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

This is really simple.

No one is going to spend money as long as we know perfectly well that inflation is coming and taxes are going up – because they have to, because the Democrats have spent way more money than we will have for several decades.

People are cutting back and saving their money (statistics confirm this), and as they do, businesses suffer.

Likewise, businesses are not about to expand or hire or anything of the like, as long as Obama is threatening them right and left.

The American people are not as stupid as Democrats claim. They know unemployment is growing. Many realize that cap and trade and universal healthcare will just make things even worse than they are now.

Consumer confidence is way down, and nobody who cares about the survival of their family is going to help pump the economy up. Everybody is circling their financial wagons against what is coming, which could include, of course, the likelihood of losing their jobs.

Every thing Obama and the Democrats propose – EVERY thing – is something that will harm the economy further, and many people realize that.

They can spend as many trillions that we don’t have as they like, and it’s not going to change this. It’s only going to make it worse, as we dig in our heels even more for our very survival.

Alana on July 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Yeah….kinda like “you can’t disprove God” – the linchpin logic for mankind’s greatest racket.

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Why do some people have to display their ignorance and bigotry on every thread?

MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Ogabe’s “daily poll” the Dow is down again after trying to limp forward….oil down to sub 65 a barrel and it is still down….

Chicago Jesus better pray the public doesn’t tie him to crap’n'trade.

sven10077 on July 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

If they hadn’t spent most of that $800 billion paying off their supporters, we might have seen SOME stimulus.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

My shovel ready project is to bury the democrats.

fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Whenever you run into an Obama supporter, repeat these
“three” simple words: It’s.the.economy.stupid!

Sit back and enjoy their reaction.

Christien on July 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Taking a lesson in counting from Biden are we? lol

Torch on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Who is this “michael steele” fellow?

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Just some blockhead whose assension to Grand Pubahness I cheered on like a bloody fool.

*facepalm*

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

More to be done like $1.5 trillion more?

orfannkyl on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Don’t worry the state run media will be telling us, at first, politicians were responsible. Then it was a bi-partisan bill. Then it will be a another failed republican deficit, budget busting bill.

jukin on July 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

They’ll certainly try to indict all of DC for this, but that’ll be pretty difficult considering the Dems run every branch of government and the GOP has(with very few exceptions) voted against Obama’s agenda every step of the way.

The GOP hedged its bets on Obama being a collossal failure and so far they’re being completely vindicated. As long as they don’t appear too smug about it and can offer up an alternative agenda for the country, they’ll pick up a ton of seats and governorships in the next 18 months.

Doughboy on July 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM

acat on July 8, 2009 at 1:27 PM

My location of my employer is closing after the first of the year. One of my co-workers is already talking about joining the four unemployed men living in her house for a vacation. This person is definately an Obama supporter and it makes you want to scream. I think she may have illusions of grandeur of the unemployment funds coming her way.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Gallup:

Approve 56% (-2)
Disapprove 36% (+1)

sweettasha on July 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

To complete this picture, from RCP:

Gallup 5/30 – 6/1 1500 A
Approve 64%
Disapprove 30%

So, roughly 36 days later (June 1st vs July 7th), even Gallup poll shows 14 point swing.

LastRick on July 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Did anyone catch the Tonight Show last night? Conan O’Brien actually did an Obama joke and got a big laugh and apllause. He said “President Obama gave a big speech at the biggest university in Moscow….he asked the students if he could borrow 400 billion dollars.” I was shocked at the joke and even more shocked at the size of the laugh and applause.

rockmom on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Where are the trolls?

Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Exercising their fingers for a Palin thread.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

One of my co-workers is already talking about joining the four unemployed men living in her house for a vacation.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Isn’t the proper term “funcation”?

LastRick on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Why do some people have to display their ignorance and bigotry on every thread?

MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

…thin-skinned whiner…

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

No doubt. I’ve seen more Trolls and Mobys around here in the last week than I’ve ever seen before.

kingsjester on July 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

If they hadn’t spent most of that $800 billion paying off their supporters, we might have seen SOME stimulus.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

That’s what makes me so damned angry. Who the hell said it’s ok, to take tax payer dollars, and pay off supporters? Ethics, and morals are foreign words to politicians.

capejasmine on July 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Lorien and right2: Good ones!! You are both seem at the top of your game today. I,on the other hand , have no energy except to do some old fashioned, standard complaining which is pretty effortless because of long practice. Keep up the good work. Troll removal is a noble calling.

jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I was shocked at the joke and even more shocked at the size of the laugh and applause.

rockmom on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

If that is the start of a trend, then it’s all over for Obama.

I’ll cross my fingers.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM

AA unemployment rate june 09 =15.3% (9.4 in june 08)
Teen AA unemployment rate june 09 = 45% (29.8 in june 08)

There’s the change. Not sure where the hope is.

OBAMA’S A FAILURE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE AA COMMUNITY.

Source

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Before they pass a 2nd stimulus, I want every person in Congress and the Administration to take a 25 % pay cut. And before they enact the “public option” on Health Care, I want them to live by it for 1 year. I know these things would never hapeen. There’s about as much chance of it and there is of congress actually reading a bill before they pass it.

kingsjester on July 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM

We need some philosophy or psychology folks to answer the question of what do you call it when you use an unprovable statement to defend your actions.

Such as when the democrats defend the first stimulus bill by saying “things could have been much worse” or “you don’t know what might have happened had we not passed the first stimulus bill”. You can’t prove or disprove the statement.

Circular logic?
Logical fallacy?

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM

They seems to be fading away one by one, but it is a vacation week and that may account for it.

jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Exactly. The libtards had to visit their folks for the 4th and got an earful of what a disaster Obama is.

John the Libertarian on July 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM

What will be the spin when unemployment hits 10%?

I’ll answer my own question in my best Robert Gibbs
impersonation:
“But, but, prosperity is just around the corner.”

diogenes on July 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Didn’t creating those “600,000 jobs over the next 100 days” begin over 30 days ago?

He’s already down over 400K jobs for June alone. Doesn’t that mean he needs to create over 1,000,000 jobs just to fullfil his promise? Even if he did create those jobs, we’d still be where we are today for the sake of overall unemployment numbers wouldn’t we?

Math is hard…

catmman on July 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM

More to be done like $1.5 trillion more?

orfannkyl on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Good Lord, I can’t believe what I’m reading. Where the hell are they gonna get 1 1/2 trillion bucks?! And this is on top of crap-and-betrayed and Obamacare? We’re gonna have a $4 trillion deficit at the pace they’re spending money.

Doughboy on July 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Nevermind…I think we have a winner:

Argument from Ignorance.

“where a participant draws a positive conclusion from a lack of contradictory evidence, frequently in an area where no such evidence can reasonably be expected.”

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM

catmman on July 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM

He said “created or saved” so we could’ve lost 1 million jobs in june.

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM

diogenes on July 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM

End of the year. Over 10% unemployment and a $2 trillion deficit. Bank on it.

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM

But you can prove it when the libtatds say it could have been much worse. Just pull out this graph. It disproves using the administrations own projections.

catmman on July 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

diogenes on July 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM

“Imagine how bad it would have been if we’d done nothing!”

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

We need another stimulus package about the same as we need a “swine flu” pandemic (it might do less damage). The dems wouldn’t get it right the second time either. They would just pay off more special interests with our monopoly money.

duff65 on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Any fizzle would be better than the black hole Obama’s forced us into.

Even Biden admits the Obamaggedon.

maverick muse on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

He said “created or saved” so we could’ve lost 1 million jobs in june.

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM

You are such a guy, so you don’t get it. I keep telling my husband how much money I’m saving him with all of my shopping, but he just doesn’t understand. I never could have saved that $300 if I hadn’t bought the designer purse!

;)

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

For someone’s who is supposed to be so smart, he sure acts so stupid.

Greg Toombs on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

This is a sound plan.

I mean, once you’ve given juvenile delinquents whiskey and car keys, what do you do when they’ve come back and your car is only slightly scratched and dented?

MORE whiskey, obviously.

Then give them keys to a MORE EXPENSIVE, FASTER car.

But that answer only makes sense if you’re an Ivy League graduate.

NoDonkey on July 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM

My shovel ready project is to bury the democrats.

fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Do you think we could get a backhoe with some of that “stimulus” money to speed up this project?

izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Of course, my grammar and typing skills are smart, too.

These attributes and $4,000,000 in fundraising qualify me for the Ambassadorship to Great Britain.

I like Ipods, too.

Greg Toombs on July 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM

End of the year. Over 10% unemployment and a $2 trillion deficit. Bank on it.

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I’d love to take that bet but I’m saying by the end of September. Banking on it would be foolish since the dollar will be worthless and banks will nationalized by then.

Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Senior administration officials acknowledged that the effects of the stimulus package have been overshadowed by an unexpectedly sharp drop-off in employment since the measure passed in February. But they reported that only about $100 billion has so far been spent and that as increasingly large sums flow out of Washington, the program is on pace to save or create 600,000 jobs over the next 100 days.

How many times do they think they can use that line and get away with it?

Vashta.Nerada on July 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Remember this???

Nobody Messes With Joe

February 25, 2009 6:04 AM

In his address to Congress, President Barack Obama named VP Joe Biden to lead an economic oversight effort.

Watch the Video

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4826534n

ordi on July 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM

diogenes on July 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM

“Imagine how bad it would have been if we’d done nothing!”

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

That is what Washington needs to do: NOTHING….
Please congresspeople go home and don’t come back.
Take Obama on a long extended hoilday – like 3.5 years….

izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM

How many times do they think they can use that line and get away with it?

Vashta.Nerada on July 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I don’t think they’re getting away with it anymore. The poll numbers are sinking and even some of the drive-bys are acting skeptical.

As for how long they’ll continue to use that line, they’ll do it as long there’s no actual positive economic data they can cite.

Doughboy on July 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM

For someone’s who is supposed to be so smart, he sure acts so stupid.

Greg Toombs on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Most affirmatively so

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

That is what Washington needs to do: NOTHING….
Please congresspeople go home and don’t come back.
Take Obama on a long extended hoilday – like 3.5 years….

izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM

How about a first class, all expenses paid fun cruise to Sudan. I’ll chip in for Piglosi’s ticket.

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

How about a first class, all expenses paid fun cruise to Sudan. I’ll chip in for Piglosi’s ticket.

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I heard Xinjiang is nice this time of year.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Isn’t the proper term “funcation”?

LastRick on July 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

This administration has expanded my vocabulary but I don’t recall any of the new words having “fun” in them.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM

How about a first class, all expenses paid fun cruise to Sudan. I’ll chip in for Piglosi’s ticket.

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

So long as they fly Air France

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM

But that would be a good thing. A very good thing.

myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM

My thoughts exactly.

I was also thinking that if a person/business/government is spending money fast enough they can’t keep track of it, there’s a fundamental problem in the process somewhere.

taznar on July 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Ready, Shoot, Aim.

or

Measure once, cut twice.

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Those figures can’t be right JD….unless you’re telling us the government is trying to paint a rosier picture. Gee….I wonder if they would try this with other stats like the CPI as well?

genso on July 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM

LimeyGeek on July 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM

ROFLMAO! *snort*

Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM

What will be the spin when unemployment hits 10%?

*snip*

diogenes on July 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Where have you been lately. Can’t you see that this is all Bush’s fault?

Vic on July 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM

From WaPo article:

When the measure passed, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted that about a quarter of the money would be spent by year’s end, and that about 75 percent would flow by the end of 2010. So far, economists said, spending appears to be on track.

Remember the talk of doom and gloom POTUS used to sell this debacle? We’re heading to an abyss, worst recession and job loss since depression?
Why would they pass something that was so urgent yet wasn’t going to be effective for over a year? Still, WaPo acts like the fact the spending being on track is some feat instead of proof the whole thing was a big damn lie to begin with.

msmveritas on July 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM

As a follow-up, if those figures are so readily available from the Dept of Labor, why wouldn’t someone….anyone…in the media not report the actual numbers instead of parroting the administration’s line of BS on this? Not really a question I expect to be answered. I will take note of the spike in my blood pressure, though.

genso on July 8, 2009 at 2:08 PM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Looks like reparations are in order.

a capella on July 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM

You watch, they’ll create a bunch more smoke and mirrors and lock the door and hammer out another “stimulus” package that they’ll rush through without reading and it will be deja vu all over again.

The turds are in charge and until we can get them out of there we’re all screwed.

scalleywag on July 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM

For someone’s who is supposed to be so smart, he sure acts so stupid.
Greg Toombs on July 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

This is what the Left doesn’t understand: There’s a difference between intelligence/education and good judgment.

(And I say this as someone with a PhD from a Research I university.)

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Does it have Snowe and Collins nervous?

guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Dude, where’s my recovery?

Well, it would have been here by now, but the delivery got pushed back by a stimulus package.

Count to 10 on July 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Measure once, cut twice.

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM

I’ve cut that piece 3 times and it’s still too short!

thomasaur on July 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Piglosi. hehe
Now That’s funny!

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Remember the talk of doom and gloom POTUS used to sell this debacle? We’re heading to an abyss, worst recession and job loss since depression?
Why would they pass something that was so urgent yet wasn’t going to be effective for over a year? Still, WaPo acts like the fact the spending being on track is some feat instead of proof the whole thing was a big damn lie to begin with.

msmveritas on July 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Think mid-term elections, and the stimulus as a huge campaign war-chest.

ICBM on July 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Why did it fail?

Like trying to fly by pulling on your boot straps, it was theoretically doomed to failure.

Count to 10 on July 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Remember the people who praised Obama as a pragmatist (you know, someone more interested in solutions than ideology)?

I’d like to slap all of them about now.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Who is this “michael steele” fellow?

lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

The GOP’s latest affirmative-action black front man. Every bit as smart and effective as, say, Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice. Idea was to put a blk guy in front as Chairman of the GOP and peel away some blk voters.

Lol..good luck with that.

guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I’m pretty sure that if Reid or Pelosi said we needed Stimulus 2 and it had to be at least a bazillion dollars, several Republicans would trample one another to get in front of a TV camera to say that they would work with the Democrats.

myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM

If, as someone on an earlier post stated, the commercial real-estate market crashes there will not be enough paper or ink to cover the loss. We can not stimulate our way out of this. Even Houdini couldn’t excape the mess we are in.

fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Remember the people who praised Obama as a pragmatist (you know, someone more interested in solutions than ideology)?

They didn’t really believe that: they just wanted cover so they could feel sooooo good about voting for the First Black President.

Well, maybe Christopher Buckley actually did believe it, but poor Chris is beginning to exhibit the delayed symptoms of youthful drug abuse.

guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM

My shovel ready project is to bury the democrats.

fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

+1

txmomof6 on July 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Obama shouldn’t have won the election in the first place. The fact that he did and that Congress is still controlled by Dems even after things went downhill quickly once they took over shows they have the money and the muscle to get their way.

The MSM isn’t going to back down with their support, mostly out of ideology. Though they (Leftists) are on the ropes with ratings and subscriptions, they still control most of the media.

I don’t think even a Republican sweep in 2010 will make much difference. These RINOs are just as bad with their complicity.

Just cynical I guess…and very concerned.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM

They didn’t really believe that: they just wanted cover so they could feel sooooo good about voting for the First Black President.
guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM

What’s frightening is that some of them, including some conservatives, *did* believe that he was a pragmatist, his voting record and background notwithstanding.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM

You know, I want to be a lefty but something in my head keeps preventing it.

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I love the dems overreaching and being put on the defensive only 6 months in. LMAO.

marklmail on July 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM

What’s frightening is that some of them, including some conservatives, *did* believe that he was a pragmatist, his voting record and background notwithstanding.

What part of “my spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright” didn’t they understand?

guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:23 PM

You know, I want to be a lefty but something in my head keeps preventing it.

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Is that something common sense? Logic? A moral compass? A basic understanding of modern history? A sense of justice and fair play? A background in business?

It could be any of these. They can diagnose the problem and ‘fix’ you if you’d like.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM

“I voted for Obama & all I got was this stupid T-shirt….and $287,413 more in debt”

Start the shirt presses.

portlandon on July 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM

What’s frightening is that some of them, including some conservatives, *did* believe that he was a pragmatist, his voting record and background notwithstanding.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Assuming that they didn’t just get caught up in the populist movement. I can’t wrap my mind around an informed conservative voting for this.

genso on July 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Overall, states reported using Recovery Act funds to stabilize state budgets and to cope with fiscal stresses. The funds helped them maintain staffing for existing programs and minimize or avoid tax increases as well as reductions in services.

This is nonsense…think about it. The combined total state budgets is under the $800 billion in the Pork Bill. SOME money might move there but most, if one reads the bill, went straight to democrat special interests. Enriching corrupt things like ACORN and Unions is not a job maker, just a job saver, and the money spent is wasted as no infrastructure is being fixed or created…

The nature of that bill was to give one party an enormous political advantage and cement power forever. It failed because the greed of those special interests surpassed even this level of spending, so Porkulous II is needed to do all the things promised but not delivered in the first scam.

JIMV on July 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Leave me alone.
It’s wee -ger Wednesday.

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Obama shouldn’t have won the election in the first place. The fact that he did and that Congress is still controlled by Dems even after things went downhill quickly once they took over shows they have the money and the muscle to get their way.

The MSM isn’t going to back down with their support, mostly out of ideology. Though they (Leftists) are on the ropes with ratings and subscriptions, they still control most of the media.

I don’t think even a Republican sweep in 2010 will make much difference. These RINOs are just as bad with their complicity.

Just cynical I guess…and very concerned.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Who was gonna stop Obama last year? McCain? Even his own base can’t stand him. The media covered for him every step of the way so most of the ignoramuses had no idea about his radical past or his Marxist agenda. And Bush didn’t help matters by caving in on TARP.

It was a perfect storm of events that ensured the GOP had no chance in 2008. What hurt wasn’t so much that Obama won(although that did really suck), but that Pelosi and Reid added to their majorities, giving him a rubber stamp in Congress for passing virtually anything he wanted.

I warned everyone I could last fall that we needed to fear not only Obama in the White House, but the Dems controlling the entire government. Now people are starting to realize the mistake they made. I just hope the damage isn’t too severe to undo going into 2011 and beyond.

Doughboy on July 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Assuming that they didn’t just get caught up in the populist movement. I can’t wrap my mind around an informed conservative voting for this.
genso on July 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM

The hype was very powerful, the media-spun narrative almost overwhelming. I believe it’s Goebbels who’s credited with teaching us that if you repeat a lie long enough, people will begin to believe it.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM

You know, I want to be a lefty but something in my head keeps preventing it.

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM

That would be your brain. Take it out or disengage it and you’ll have no problem being a lefty.

Vic on July 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Remember the talk of doom and gloom POTUS used to sell this debacle? We’re heading to an abyss, worst recession and job loss since depression?

But I thought Vice president Biden told us that the “administration” (guffaw!) UNDERESTIMATED the extent of our economic woes, which is why the unemployment rate is rising, despite the stimulus?

So the Democrats are now telling us they were being optimistic?

This could be believed only by an individual who was in a coma during the 2008 campaign.

Which is why it’s swallowed by our head over heels in love with Obama, state run media.

NoDonkey on July 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM

That would be your brain.

Vic on July 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Ba dum bump!

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM

You know, I want to be a lefty but something in my head keeps preventing it.

Lanceman on July 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Is that something common sense? Logic? A moral compass? A basic understanding of modern history? A sense of justice and fair play? A background in business?

It could be any of these. They can diagnose the problem and ‘fix’ you if you’d like.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Sometimes I wanna be a lefty, too, but that means I wouldn’t be able to snatch scraps of food out of the mouths of poor children anymore. A man needs a hobby.

guntotinglibertarian on July 8, 2009 at 2:31 PM

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