Stimulus fizzle has Democrats worried
posted at 12:49 pm on July 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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And well they should. Democrats put down an $800 billion bet and locked Republicans out of the room in placing it. They know their party and their President completely owns the results — and those aren’t looking good at all. And like any bad gambler, they want to double down on a lost hand:
Five months after Congress approved a massive package of spending and tax cuts aimed at reviving an ailing economy, the jobless rate is still climbing and the White House is scrambling to reassure an anxious public that President Obama’s prescription for economic recovery is on the right track.
Yesterday, Obama took time out of his first presidential trip to Moscow to defend the $787 billion stimulus package, arguing that the measure was the right medicine at the right time. “There’s nothing that we would have done differently,” he told ABC News.
Back in Washington, senior Democrats on Capitol Hill were nervously contemplating whether additional government stimulus spending may be needed to pull the nation out of the worst recession since the 1930s. Senior administration officials acknowledged that the effects of the stimulus package have been overshadowed by an unexpectedly sharp drop-off in employment since the measure passed in February. But they reported that only about $100 billion has so far been spent and that as increasingly large sums flow out of Washington, the program is on pace to save or create 600,000 jobs over the next 100 days.
“It is clear from the data that there needs to be more fiscal stimulus in the second half of the year than there was in the first half of the year,” White House economic adviser Lawrence H. Summers said. “Fortunately, the stimulus program designed by the president and passed by Congress provides exactly that.”
But that wasn’t what the White House or the Democrats promised when they passed Porkulus. Barack Obama’s economic advisers demanded fast action, rather than reasoned debate and negotiation, to adopt their recommendations in order to avoid a spike in unemployment in the near term. They got what they wanted — a spending plan that funded just about every liberal fantasy of the last 30 years, save universal health care — and it didn’t do anything to stop rapid unemployment.
Why did it fail? Michelle links to a GAO report that shows that the White House lost control of Porkulus spending from the very beginning. States receiving Porkulus money used it to hide budget deficits instead of creating jobs, and the GAO cannot effectively track the money in any case:
Overall, states reported using Recovery Act funds to stabilize state budgets and to cope with fiscal stresses. The funds helped them maintain staffing for existing programs and minimize or avoid tax increases as well as reductions in services.
States have implemented various internal control programs; however, federal Single Audit guidance and reporting does not fully address Recovery Act risk. The Single Audit reporting deadline is too late to provide audit results in time for the audited entity to take action on deficiencies noted in Recovery Act programs. Moreover, current guidance does not achieve the level of accountability needed to effectively respond to Recovery Act risks. Finally, state auditors need additional flexibility and funding to undertake the added Single Audit responsibilities under the Recovery Act.
Here’s where we get into the “saved or created” dodge of the Obama administration. The Porkulus money may have “saved” jobs, but they were government jobs, not the private sector. Most government employees have union representation, primarily by the SEIU. The only jobs Porkulus may have saved were those of bureaucrats in state government, and mostly to make sure the unions stay on the side of the Democrats.
None of that money went into promoting growth in the private sector, which is why unemployment skyrocketed. Capital stayed out of the market, in part because of fears of confiscatory tax increases and in part because of the amount of regulation threatened by the Obama administration, and what capital was left will get eaten up by the cost of Porkulus eventually. And the GAO says it will take months just to get effective reporting on how that money gets spent, regardless of where it goes.
Now, Democrats want to do this all over again, saying that all they need to do is bet just a little more to erase their losses. I’d say we need to cut our losses, and the Democrats as well.
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in theatres next month…
Son of Stimulus!
DrW on July 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Senator Collins… call your office!
mankai on July 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Well, yeah. This is predictable. Still not smart, but totally predictable.
Woe.
Bob's Kid on July 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM
But Arlen Spectre was there fighting for the Republican point of view…
forest on July 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Lather, rinse, repeat.
This will not end well.
Mew
acat on July 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Driving through NH over the weekend and saw one of those Recovery Act signs on the road and just chuckled….
________________________
The(D)s should be very worried….
cmsinaz on July 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM
A much better approach would have been a dollar for dollar injection.
OldEnglish on July 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Had breakfast with a comitted lefty this morning. He’s on board with the health care and the cap and trade but is very concerned about all of the spending.
Somehow I managed not to punch him in the face.
myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM
The assumption here, of course, is that the porkulus was supposed to help the economy. It was not. It was the filthy liar and his party paying back unions and others (like ACORN) for their years of support. This bill was nothing more than political spoils.
highhopes on July 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM
The “saved or created” garbage is so transparent. I guess for every day I keep my job it gets added into the +1 saved category. The fact that this administration does not get called out on this crap is mindboggling.
BakerAllie on July 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Wonder how O’bama and his kneepads will try to blame this on Bush?
Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Hoyer promises to continue not reading bills before passage:
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I’m come to the firm conviction that Democrats lack sound fiscal reasoning. “Geeee….let’s spend $800 BILLION dollars on Democratic pet-projects that’ll only produce a handful of TEMPORARY jobs, all the while raising taxes on the small business’ that employee all the rest of the population. YEAH! BRILLIANT STRATEGY!”
LiquidH2O on July 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Our side needs to be continually challenging the Dems to identify how many jobs are producing wealth (self-sustaining and growth-promoting) versus how many will be reliant on taxpayers to stay employed.
Patrick S on July 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I’ve, not I’m.
LiquidH2O on July 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
This kind of holding back is why the GOP loses.
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
(emphasis mine)
So much for “No one messes with Joe.” Watching Biden trying to find the money will be like watching the Keystone Kops trying to solve a crime.
BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
This is why we need STIMULUS II. They just didn’t do it right the first time. They will definitely get it right the second time.
RR
ramrants on July 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
You were on I-93, no doubt.
In reality, it is a “recovery act”-they are simply re-covering the road.
Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Has someone started playing Taps for our country.
WashJeff on July 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Everyday I remind my father that the only reason we’re still employed is because Obama has once again “saved” our jobs for us. *Shakes head* *Rolls eyes*
LiquidH2O on July 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Own it, B!otch’s!
PappaMac on July 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM
GOP needs video of this and tack onto every commercial for 2 years.
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM
But that would be a good thing. A very good thing.
myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Had breakfast with a comitted lefty this morning. He’s on board with the health care and the cap and trade but is very concerned about all of the spending.
Somehow I managed not to punch him in the face.
myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Can you explain to me why liberals are behind cap & tax and government-run healthcare?
txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 1:01 PM
you would be correct…
LOL
cmsinaz on July 8, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Need to buy a clunker car, crash it into the sign, set the car on fire, take a picture of the scene, and post the picture on the web as metaphor for the stimulus.
WashJeff on July 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Why in the hell is Paul Ryan saying “we will work with the President” on a possible second stimulus? WTF????
Let him and the libs own this PIG!
ReaganConservative3 on July 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
They believe the green energy lie. They believe that ObamaCare will be quality care for everyone. They believe.
myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
But……I thought Joe was going to monitor the spending? I mean…nobody messes with Joe. Right?
BacaDog on July 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
It’s the summer movie America doesn’t want to see…Stimulus 2: Electric Boogaloo
D_bot on July 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM
It needs to be trumpeted that 80% of the package was scheduled to be spent next year to help the Dems in the 2010 elections.
“If this Bill was an emergency measure, why are you waiting to stimulate the economy?”
davidt on July 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM
heh, heh –
I think it will take repeated blows to a lefty skull…
No wait a minute that won’t work…there skulls are thicker than armour plating..and most of them are brain dead anyway.
I think it will take repeated body blows to a lefty before they wake up.
I don’t know about the leftys in this country but I really don’t want to live in the USSA. Look who has tried it – USSR, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, Iran….
The list goes on & on…
Free market capitalism is what made America great and one day will again.
For now I am going Galt and will start the revolution against the tyranny of the left.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM
The Republicans are going to be no different. They will just keep funnelling all our money into Goldman Sachs and other fraudsters, just like the Democrats.
This country is dead.
Riposte on July 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Criminalize stupidity and then hang all 535 of the dumb ba***rds.
Mr. Grump on July 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Well, yeah. Which is why this plan was so fundamentally stupid at its core. It doesn’t do any good to pay those people back in the interest of creating a permanently loyal and liberal voting block if those people are going to hold you responsible for them not having JOBS.
World B. Free on July 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM
LOL
‘Ain’t no stopping us now….’
cmsinaz on July 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Members of the GOP too often cower from calling a spade a spade. Are they really hoping to get union votes? They need to go directly to independents and club Obama and the Dems over the head for promoting an agenda that feeds only a fraction of the electorate. Then need specifics, and they need to connect the dots for people succintly and immediately–all without holding back for fear of insulting union members because they deserve to be insulted.
BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM
The funniest thing you’ll see out of all of this is the defense:
“You don’t know what might have happened had we not passed the first stimulus bill!!”
Someone actually said that, and meant it.
Yes that’s right, dragons might have eaten your children and goblins might have stolen your ipod had we not passed the stimulus bill. Prove me wrong.
Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Porkulus II? Didn’t the libs fund every damned thing on their wish list the first time around?
GarandFan on July 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM
These far leftist dolts will try to pass another crapulous bill…you just watch.
Im at work watching FOX…Trace Gallagher just reported that Obummertards approval ratings are “dropping like a rock”…hahahaha… How sweet it is… All you friggin tards who voted for this total moron…REAP IT.
Jackson1227 on July 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Speaking of unemployment, the minimum wage is scheduled to go up again at the end of this month (24th?). That should be good for another tenth of a point or two of unemployment.
MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Okay, bring it on. Do it now, before the cap-and-trade and health care legislation. Since they seem determined to destroy the economy, might as well make it as quick as possible.
The crash that follows should render the Dems a minority party for decades to come.
petefrt on July 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Yes, but funding a democratic orgy of pipe dreams won’t create jobs and won’t register on the radar. This is where the leftys have no logic. Take a look at the crap they have been spending money on:
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=59af3ebd-7bf9-4933-8279-8091b533464f
HERE IS ONE CRAPPY EXAMPLE: I would hate to be a democrat and have to say this is what your tax dollars were spent on:
8. Taxpayers Taken for a Ride: Nearly $10 Million to be Spent to
Renovate a Century Old Train Station that Hasn’t Been Used in 30
Years
Elizabethtown, located in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, will spend more than $9.38 million of federal stimulus funds to renovate a 97-year-old train station building that has sat vacant for more than 30 years.
“I think from far away, it looks fine, but as soon as you get up closer and realize that it’s not actually a station, it’s kind of depressing,” said train rider Maegan Demko.
When the renovation is complete, State Transportation of Secretary Allen Biehler provides reassurance that taxpayer money will be well spent. “(The
station’s) not just going to be a little monument that someone can look at on a museum tour — it’s going to be used,” Biehler said.
The station’s platform currently serves more than 80,000 passengers a year along Amtrak’s Keystone Corridor, meaning taxpayers will subsidize up to
$117 per passenger to pay for the renovation. A one-way ticket from Elizabethtown to New York City, by contrast, costs just $45 per passenger.
The U.S. Department of Transportation is providing two grants for the project.
The first grant of $7.97 million will pay for the renovation of the building, including installation of elevators and raising and extending the boarding platforms. Officials also hope to include a coffee shop, restaurant, newsstand or market inside the station.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:09 PM
We get to cut the Democrats? *blade shines*
Bwa ha ha!
thebrokenrattle on July 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Maybe i dating myself but this brinds back a song from the past” welcome back my friends to the show that never ends,step inside step inside the show about to begin” How much longer are we the people going to stand on the side and watch this show.
easyone on July 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM
This is why this country is doomed:
Retards. All of them.
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I tried hard, but I just couldn’t get past this part without falling out of my chair laughing – then weeping.
Vic on July 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Teens and college kids are already finding the worst job market ever.
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM
By the way, it was pretty obvious to see this “stimulus” for what it truly was when it was passed. It needed to be passed immediately, ASAP, without any further debate or delay, because a hundred billion jobs were being lost every second, or some such nonsense.
And then it sat on Obama’s desk while he completed his scheduled vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. And we get accused of fearmongering?
World B. Free on July 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Yep, this country needs an enema…Let’s ask Barney Frank. He knows that area well.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Indeed.
mr.blacksheep on July 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Lawrence O’Donnell was on Morning Joe this morning making the point you cited. In an employment numbers context, he said something to the effect that the unemployment rate could very well exceed 10% without the stimulus package. Then, strangely enough, he laughed and went on to say that there’s really no way to gauge the economic effect one way or another. If that’s so, why drop the $780 billion in the first place? Because the feds have that much in mad money to throw away?
His stupidity and arrogance were stunning.
BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM
And that age group needs to understand that democrats won’t create the conditions to enable job growth.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Cattle prods first. And maybe we could spare a few, say, DeMint, Imhofe, Bachman, and a handful of others.
BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM
It’d be brilliant for the Republicans to start campaigning on making the government live within its means, as part of an economic recovery.
They can promise to rescind the porkulus spending, enact an all-of-the-above energy strategy, and work to reduce the size of government.
Iblis on July 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Exactly. And they continue this meme today by saying “we stopped some seriously bad things from happening with the first stimulus bill.”
I mean, how can you argue against that kind of logic? You’ll never know if those things would have happened or not, bill or no bill. But they use that as proof they did the right thing!
Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Who are these “republicans” you refer to?
lorien1973 on July 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Isn’t that engaging in the divisive class warfare that conservatives are always blaming the left of doing? I’m not saying you are wrong, just pointing out that this is playing by the enemy’s tactics (and yes, Democrats are domestic enemies in my book).
I favor the indirect approach of not pointing out that porkulus one only fed liberal loyalists by building on the theme of
“Are you better off today than:
-when the filthy liar was elected?”
-when Nancy Pelosi became Speaker?”
-when your 401K had value?”
The fact of the matter is that the GOP doesn’t have to club these bastards over the head, they merely have to hold the Democrats accountable and make sure the electorate sees the real report card from the failed Obama administration.
highhopes on July 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
“I’d say we need to cut our losses, and the Democrats as well.”
I’d say we need to cut off their heads.
notagool on July 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Yes, the Emperor has no clothes, and the Dems are naked as well.
Of course they are worried. Instead of guaranteed sinicures, they are looking toward sanctions…once the bubble bursts.
The loyal opposition needs to articulate this Hans Christian Andersen fable into language the rest of America will easily recognize and run with…and soon.
Time to end this free pass for the historic President.
coldwarrior on July 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Mark Steyn is discussing this on Rush…
ladyingray on July 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM
What’s the called by the way? Circular logic? Something like that.
Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Porkulus #1 was akin to losing your job and then maxing out your credit cards the next week to make yourself feel better.
Now it’s the first of the next month and just exactly how deep the sh*t your in is starting to dawn on you.
DrW on July 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Who has time to look for jobs when you have Abortion Parties to attend.
WashJeff on July 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM
How exactly do the Dems expect to pass a 2nd porkulus bill? Granted, Pelosi could force it through the House. But there’s no way it’ll get through the Senate. They barely got it passed last time. Even if Snowe and Collins go along with this again, at least a few Dems up for reelection in 2010 have gotta be sweating bullets right now over the state of the economy.
Never mind what that’ll mean for the deficit? Could we actually reach $3 trillion in just one year?!
Doughboy on July 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM
But isn’t obvious that the stimulus hasn’t worked because of Bush? I mean, Biden was just saying something about how they didn’t realize just how bad the economy is.
So we really can’t possibly blame the dems, right?
sarc/
But on another note- are people starting to wake up yet?
cibolo on July 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Went to a family BBQ over the holiday and my die-hard Dem Uncle was there. Of course, Obama came up in conversation. He, too, is on-board with health care but all of Obama’s other follies … not so much. This man bleeds blue and has his entire life (he’s in his mid 70’s). I’ve never heard him talk against any Dem pol the way he did with Obama. And, I don’t think he’s alone.
Conservative_SAHM on July 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Now would be an excellent time to send a few thousand letters and emails to every member of Congress, Republican and Democrat alike, letting them all know in no uncertain terms that the general consensus among the voters who placed each and every one of them in office is that stimulus has failed miserably on a grand scale almost approaching mythic proportions, and that maybe it would be a really good idea to have them all look at other more reasonable, sensible avenues to solve the current economic mess the B.O. Administration has blessed us all with.
It would be even better to send a special letter or email to every Congressional representative and Senator up for re-election in 2010, letting them all know how much we are looking forward to the unveiling of whoever will end up being their respective opponents for their seats next November.
Just that email alone will be enough to send them all scrambling for the oxygen.
pilamaye on July 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Because typically they’re so shallow that they can’t see past the feel-good headlines. They’re the TV generation, the instant-gratification crowd who refuse to grow up. Free healthcare for all! Save the planet! Who could be against those?
They just don’t get that there’s no “free” and that the planet is doing just fine.
mr.blacksheep on July 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM
A much better approach would have been a dollar for dollar injection.
OldEnglish on July 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM
—–
A much better approach would have been targeted tax cuts.
Replace the windows on your house – that’s creating jobs – deduction.
Buy a new car that’s made in America – that’s creating jobs – deduction.
Buy a new house in America – even as a vacation or rental – that’s creating jobs – deduction.
Mew
acat on July 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Whenever you run into an Obama supporter, repeat these
“three” simple words: It’s.the.economy.stupid!
Sit back and enjoy their reaction.
Christien on July 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM
ROFLMAO
Good move, they’re all dead from the neck up anyway. Kicking him in his vagina could do the trick.
fogw on July 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM
in other words….they have A.D.D. big time
cmsinaz on July 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Gallup:
Approve 56% (-2)
Disapprove 36% (+1)
Rasmussen:
52% Approve (+0)
48% Disapprove (+1)
Both the worst ever for his presidency.
H O P E
sweettasha on July 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Appropriate setting.
Chuck Schick on July 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM
It would be brilliant if the Republicans would admit they have been part of the problem. All politicians in D.C. have enabled this runaway spending. What would really be brilliant is if the conservative movement would have a plan to start bailing out the US using the old tried & true methods of hard work. That means letting business get back to work. That means slashing RED tape and government programs so that business won’t be impeaded at every step. That means letting the oil companies loose they can explore & drill in the US – not offshore.
Of course the left will moan & howl but the American public is ready to hear this message. It won’t be easy. But to not oush & try will mean ultimate failure in the end.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Incumbents out!
yubley on July 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM
One cautionary thought just came to mind. A wounded Democrat is a dangerous enemy. If they see their numbers dropping and are unable to spend more money, stand by for every special interest issue to be forced through including repeal of DADT for the military, legitimizing the gay lifestyle in society, a run on the Second Amendment, passage of the Fairness Doctrine, etc. That way, the disenchanted left will still be angry about the spending but happier in general.
highhopes on July 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Stimulus II will likely consist of a ton of money to employ ACORN “volunteers” to come and weatherize our homes (great, people with no skills undertaking that effort) and a ton of money to bail out individual states.
BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM
The “saved or created” garbage is so transparent. I guess for every day I keep my job it gets added into the +1 saved category. The fact that this administration does not get called out on this crap is mindboggling.
BakerAllie on July 8, 2009
Exactly which part of the Obama-fellating, state-run media do you suggest should call him out? And if a Republican in Congress suddenly grew a pair of testicles and called him out, what media entity would cover it? I’m not convinced (yet) that things can get bad enough to cause Ogabe’s media whores to abandon him. We’ll see if that changes given more time and bad economic numbers.
SKYFOX on July 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM
They need to stop the warming! We are all going to die from the heat…its 69 degrees in Chicago today. We are frying!!!!
WashJeff on July 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Only idiots believe that they can borrow and spend themselves into prosperity. People who buy houses they can’t afford and borrow and spend what they don’t have are called Democrats or Obama supporters. Eventually the number of free-loaders has to outweigh the productive. I wonder how close we are?
Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Russia should really keep Obama, Obama & communism are a perfect fit. Obama could become Putin’s lap dog.
izoneguy on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
sweettasha on July 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM
—-
And we’re in the summer season when most Americans ignore politics, especially coming off the heavy binge of a presidential election year…
Most people you run into in the U.S.A. aren’t paying attention – as that changes (and an energy price spike or a smidgen more unemployment bite) they can go from sweet to sour pretty fast.
Mew
acat on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
Where the #&%$ is Michael Steele. We need all hands on deck. No one gets a pass, either stand firm or stand alone at election time. This is not a let’s-agree-to-disagree values vote, our viability as a republic is at stake.
Yay-ers are TRAITORS on this one.
Laura in Maryland on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I prefer the three words I use: “I blame you.”
highhopes on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
And given their “failure to read the situation” as per
EinsteinBiden, even libtards must be uncomfortable with the question: “Is your assessment of the troubles avoided as accurate as your assessment of the economy in the first place?”mr.blacksheep on July 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Shouldn’t this comment be on the libertarians want to legalize everything thread?
MarkTheGreat on July 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Answer: A bed sore the size of California.
Question: What do you get, when you rely on hope, and change, and untamed spending, when getting into bed with Democrats, and Government?
capejasmine on July 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Seriously, names please. I see only gutless wonders.
Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Only idiots believe that they can borrow and spend themselves into prosperity. People who buy houses they can’t afford and borrow and spend what they don’t have are called Democrats or Obama supporters. Eventually the number of free-loaders has to outweigh the productive. I wonder how close we are?
Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM
—
May I recommend that you read an introduction to “Game Theory”? It’s surprisingly useful at modeling just this kind of scenario, although it can be pretty darn dry.
The number of freeloaders, by the way, depends on a lot of variables, but it can be calculated as a percentage (and a surprisingly (to me) small one) of the number of non-freeloaders.
Mew
acat on July 8, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Heard this AM that Kelly Ayotte the very highly respected and liked Attorney General of NH (GOP) is going to run for Judd Gregg’s seat here. Good choice.
jeanie on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Where are the trolls?
Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM
would someone in DC flush the toilet,PLEASE.
easyone on July 8, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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