Piddling Away Greatness

posted at 1:34 pm on July 8, 2009 by Dafydd ab Hugh

Today, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — presumably speaking for her boss — doubled down on supporting erstwhile Honduran president and would-be dictator José Manuel Zelaya Rosales (a.k.a. Mel Zelaya) instead of rule of law in Honduras:

A day after failing to land in Honduras to confront the interim government that ousted him in a coup, Zelaya boarded a plane bound for Washington, where U.S. officials said he would meet with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Zelaya told a news conference Monday night that he hopes to ensure U.S. support for diplomatic efforts to see him restored to power.

“Tomorrow we hope to get support for these pronouncements,” Zelaya said before heading to the airport in Managua.

Clinton and President Barack H. Obama superficially seem to be oblivious to the sequence of events that led to Zelaya’s arrest, removal from office, and voluntary exile… but are they really just misinformed? (The full timeline of events in Honduras make clear what really happened, which is the polar opposite of what our antique media tell us.)

I believe at first mere ignorance was exactly the problem: The first time the ongoing, fluid situation in Honduras was explained to Obama, I suspect that all he heard was, “Wugga-wugga liberal wigga wagga union supporter woggle boggle ousted by the military roggle doggle coup d’état.” He chose to stitch this muddle together into a narrative that reads, “The liberal, democratically elected President of Honduras was overthrown by a military junta.”

Alas, Obama is probably the most impulsive man ever to sit in the big chair in la Casa Blanca; he appears allergic to debate, discussion, deliberation, contemplation, thinking things through, weighing consequences, examining the pros and cons, hearing from all sides before making a decision — and of course retrospection.

By now, of course, he knows full well what really happened; but it seems he simply cannot bring himself to admit that he misunderstood so egregiously in the first five minutes — which, coincidentally, was when he committed himself to supporting Zelaya, come what may; see our earlier Big Lizards post “Old Shoes and Barackends.”

The military has a term they use for the decision-making process; they call it the OODA loop, for “Observe, Orient, Decide and Act.” But the Obamacle appears to have found a different route to decision making.

He Partially listens to a random aide, acts on his first Impulse, angrily and bitterly Defends whatever snap-judgment action he took, Doubles-down on that first impulse, Laughs off any subsequent, game-changing information… then furiously Echos the pronunciamentos of any allies he might have gathered on the issue, no matter who they are — or whether their own interests align with or are diametrically opposed to America’s.

We can call this the Obamic PIDDLE loop, which generally morphs quite rapidly into an infinite regress. Let’s see it play out in the Honduras case:

  1. Partially listen: Somehow, President Obama got the idea stuck in his brain that there was an actual military coup in Honduras, where the entire elected government was overthrown and some generalissimo or military junta took command.
  2. Impulsively decide: Stung by constant accusations of fence-sitting and waffling, Obama often “demonstrates his leadership” by making a snap decision based on his instincts. Alas, those “instincts” are formed on the basis of bullet (1) above: Outraged that such a fine, decent man as Mel Zelaya was ousted by a military junta (sic), Obama immediately ordered Honduras to reinstate the socialist apparatchik, and he aligned his interests (thought not the nation’s) with Zelaya cronies in Nicaragua, Chile, Venezuela, and Cuba.
  3. Defend his decision: Once he’d made the decision to strongarm Zelaya back into power, President Obama was stunned by the democratic pushback even here in the United States. Instead of rethinking his position, he backed and filled, trying retroactively to justify the unjustifiable decision he made based upon an ill-formed conclusion. (Obama always defends, never discusses.)
  4. Double-down: It frequently happens, in the course of human events, that a snap decision made on the basis of erroneous information doesn’t pan out (now there’s a revelation!) A smart feller backs off and thinks it all through a second time — for example, George W. Bush picking a new general (David Petraeus) with a new strategy (counterinsurgency) to turn around the Iraq war.Alas, Barack Obama’s response to failure is not to rethink, rework, rewrite… it’s to retrench, rinse, and repeat, ad infinitum. Thus, the doubling down we see in today’s Hillary story: The Obamacle cannot back away, because that would be to admit that he goofed it up in the first place; so he goes “all in” on a bad bluff, hoping for a miracle — or a chance to accidentally kick over the table, forcing a misdeal.
  5. Laugh off subsequent facts: As more and more facts have become available — e.g., Zelaya’s pre-arrest antics, the Honduran constitution, the participation of the Honduran Supreme Court, the fact that Zelaya’s replacement, Roberto Micheletti, is next in succession to the presidency and from Zelaya’s own Liberal party anyway — a greater number of ordinary American voters will begin to realize that the White House is on the wrong side of this crucial issue. The only two responses available to Obama are (a) to do a one-eighty and start supporting the rule of law, democracy, and the Honduran people… or (b) to mock, hoot, scoff, and laugh away the inconvenient truth, lest it take root. Pish tosh. Nonsense. Who you gonna believe, me or your own lyin’ eyes?
  6. Echo his allies du jour: In the end, like every poor debater, Barack H. Obama must turn to the only argument left to try to salvage his reputation: the appeal to authority. In this case, he can but turn to his only allies in this disgraceful betrayal of Western and American values… a murderer’s row of dictators, Communists, and fascists — and the American press, which continues to haul water for the president on this one — as if a lie becomes truth when sung in chorus.As Michael Ramirez so wonderfully lampooned (see the Power Line link up top), the President of the United States has relegated himself and his administration to “parroting” the denunciations and diktats of the vilest demagogues in the Western hemisphere: President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua — premier of the Stalinist “Sandinista National Liberation Front;” Oogo Chavez — “il Duce” of Venezuela; the Rev. Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann — President of the UN General Assembly, liberation theologist, and former foreign minister to Ortega’s Sandinista government; José Miguel Insulza — the Secretary General of the Organization of American States and also a Socialist, the man who declared last year that Venezuela had “no connection” with any terrorist groups; and of course los bros Castro, Fidel and Raul.

In practice, step 6 occurs within 24 hours of the beginning of the PIDDLE loop… and it dominates the latter stages, as President Obama relies more and more on his friends and allies in whatever action he has decided to take. Eventually, he simply takes on their characteristics as protective coloration, like a chameleon takes on the colors of its surrounding environment, and for the same reason: to hide from predators.

In effect, Obama’s temporary allies become his tribe, and he turns to them over and again for advice, comfort, and friendship. As a consequence, he turns away from those critics whose unwanted facts and uncomfortable observations make him feel bad — the worst sin in the liberal pantheon.

Far from bridging the ideological gap in Washington, Obama’s de facto tribalism segregates administration officials and lawmakers more than at any time since the Second World War. And his PIDDLE loop decision making apparatus guarantees even more presidential isolation from dissenting opinion, both here and abroad.

He is not only piddling away any greatness his administration might have exhibited — having been gifted with extraordinary times — he is also piddling away America’s greatness; that should never be tolerated… not even by other liberals who are not quite so radical, if there is any such rara avis left.

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“one of the best of his presidency”

Talk about a low bar.

Socratease on May 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM

What speech?

I love being able to say that. A speech fell in the forest and I didn’t hear it. Finally!

IndieDogg on May 24, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Platitudes vanish after the first terror attack or drone strike

rob verdi on May 24, 2013 at 12:45 PM

MSNBC is beyond parody. Socratease beat me to what I was going to say.

No Truce With Kings on May 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM

MSLSD:

********** FREE_BASING DA KOOL_AID Again ********!!!

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Tools

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM

They say this every time he talks.
Don’t mean nothin’.

Jabberwock on May 24, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Oh, I was looking at Mika and then I thought you wrote Scandinavia .

Seth Halpern on May 24, 2013 at 12:47 PM

..mindless, mirror-fogging lib prole commentariat easily impressed, low bar, etc.

The War Planner on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

LOL.

pat on May 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM

A definite sign of panic…the house is on fire…firetrucks are on the way….and the neighbors are telling the homeowner how pretty his drapes are….tsk tsk…these PMSNBC people are such mental midgets.

LaRepublican on May 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Did he use his teleprompter? Hahahahahahaha.

kemojr on May 24, 2013 at 12:51 PM

President Foreign Policy’s miraculous yet still oddly unmaterialized abilities to move us drastically closer to world peace
=====

And yet,Hopey Wins a Peace Prize for Peace,er,
for…..

…..Fort Hood
Extortion 17
Benghazi
Boston Bombing
Libya/Egypt,
and others I
have missed!

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Squirrel!

forest on May 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Somebody should have asked if they could remember a line or theme from the speach.

Tater Salad on May 24, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Why Obama’s speech was one of the best of his presidency.

Why this chase is one of best in Wile E. Coyote’s career.

Why this game was one of the best ever for the Washington Generals.

etcetera

aunursa on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Shiny things!

No scandals, wingnuts!

Good Lt on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I bet whatever was showing on HGTV or NAT GEO had higher ratings than Obama’s speech.

Erich66 on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The Barak Obama Do It Yourself Speech Kit:

Preamble: this must consist of varying portions or iterations of the following; [Place in any order you choose]

“Folks are hurtin’.” [This must be said with feeling, to show caring.]

“We have to invest in the future.” [Translation; Spend Spend Spend!]

“We need a balanced approach.” [Remember, this means Tax Increases so make it sound reasonalbe.]

“My hope and expectation is that we can put country before party and get something done for the American people.”
[This is the crux of the speech, this is where it is emphasized that any disagreement is tantamount to Treason.]

[At this point it is important to have an agenda list that will consist of proposals. Use the following skeleton to introduce each of the agenda items.]

— Obama Introduce a Subject on the Agenda —

“Some would say…” [Insert here a quotation of something No One ever says.]

“let me be perfectly clear…” [This is the place for obfuscation about the subject and any position regarding the subject.]

“We cannot simply just…” [This is where you mention something that would be the exact solution to the problem and the American People know it, i.e. "we cannot simply just drill for all the oil we need."]

“make no mistake about…” [Here is where the Exact Opposite of any of the things which are to take place are stated.]

“I reject the false choice that some would…” [Again, reiterate quotations that No One has ever said followed by Him vs. an idiotic extrapolation of any Republican position.]

“I have ordered my team to…” [Doesn't matter what actions you fill in here, they aren't going to do it.]

— Repeat as needed for new subjects —

Then, in closing you must include a reference to the Bush Administration and “The Failed Policies of the Past.” that we cannot go back to.

jaydee_007 on May 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM

MSNBC: The place for Politics Pissants.

can_con on May 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM

And terrorism is more alive than liberalism, heh.

Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Every speech this a$$hat gives is the best of his presidency. Talk about the bigotry of low expectations. What a bunch of racists.

jawkneemusic on May 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Chris Hayes is a ratings disaster for them. And as he gets more panicky his voice even goes an octave higher.
He’s amusing.

Marcus on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Look at all those good results from that Cairo speech.

rbj on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Pressed kind of ignored the heckler.
If Bush was President the heckler would have gotten more press than the speech.

albill on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Our current President has not just one, but three scandals which he is under scrutiny about.

They must be serious, because Mooch is talking about going on an extended vacation.

So, what’s a Chicago Politician to do, to escape the heat of public attention? Why, run the ol’ Bait and Switch, of course.

Oh, look! Squirrel!

kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM

As a student of history this speech ranks right up there with Star Wars and Lost.

Limerick on May 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Every speech this a$$hat gives is the best of his presidency. Talk about the bigotry of low expectations. What a bunch of racists.
jawkneemusic on May 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Did he get extra credit for planting Media Benjamin?

DanMan on May 24, 2013 at 1:03 PM

The Whorce is strong with these ones, I see…

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Share with us the stats of how many white people voted for him in 08 and 12….

hillsoftx on May 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The One makes a speech, reading recycled lines lies off the teleprompter.

The LSM, who have heard it a zillion times before, react appropriately, by their lights.

That is, they immediately proclaim a New Era of Peace and Prosperity due to His Totally Awesome Awesomeness.

Sierra-Squared, Delta-Squared.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Wow, what a speech! What scandals?

crrr6 on May 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Chris Hayes is a ratings disaster for them. And as he gets more panicky his voice even goes an octave higher.
He’s amusing.

Marcus on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

He’s the female version of Rachael Madcow.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

none of us wonder any such thing, we look at the 98% voting percentage and draw the obvious conclusion

DanMan on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM

MSNBC, the home of the Obama circle-jerk…

RedInMD on May 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

lulz; they think every speech he gives meets that description. Pretty sure these folks are the definition of both ‘sycophant’ and ‘fluffer’.

Midas on May 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

MSNBC would say the same thing even if shoes were thrown at Obama.

Erich66 on May 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

*points politely to the “DONT FEED THE TROLLS” sign*

Midas on May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Obama made a speech?

ctmom on May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

If Bush was President the heckler would have gotten more press than the speech.

albill on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Was that woman technically a heckler? I mean when you plant the disruption it really isn’t heckling but abetting.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I accidentally landed on MSNBC last night during Maddow’s opinion piece on the speech. I had to stay and watch for a few minutes. It was startling the way she was trying to spin it. I believe she said, “Epic!” “Turning Point in History!” or some such nonsense.

Once again, I found myself shaking my head in disbelief.

As a student of history this speech ranks right up there with Star Wars and Lost.

Limerick on May 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM

As a viewer of both Star Wars and Lost, you are still being kind to Obama, lol.

Fallon on May 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM

none of us wonder any such thing, we look at the 98% voting percentage and draw the obvious conclusion
DanMan on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Explain why the same percentage constantly votes for any dem be it black or white? Let me guess? Its because blacks want their Obamaphones and gubmit checks right?

Definitely not because your party is anti minority and more importantly anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Obama’s BACK!!!

Whooo hooo!!

The oceans are goin’ to lowered…
Clean air and clean water!!
Wow!!!

Hold on..
Got to catch my breath….

The World is going to love us!!!

Electrongod on May 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

So, if President Barry Smith, Republican from Illinois, was pursuing low-tax, free trade, free market growth policies, if he was fighting for the unborn, if he was appointing originalist judges, if he was separating industry from government rather than uniting the two… if he was doing all these things that we as conservatives expect from our Republican presidents, is it your contention that we would be abusing him on account of his race?

Stop. Just stop. We’d be treating him as the next coming of Reagan.

We abuse him for his inevitable failure that his asinine Leftist policies are delivering to this once great nation. We believe this nation was no better off for electing a black man president, if done only for the sake of electing a black man president. In this case, we are, in fact, demonstrably worse off.

But then, what did anyone expect from a South Side Democrat on the Potomac… black or white?

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Wow – it was a great speech. Obama wants to do great things as president but it’s too bad that the government is so big and unwieldy that he doesn’t have any responsibility for it.

gwelf on May 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM

How committed are they to going down with the ship? If this presidency ends as it should, in public disgrace and the shattering of the Democratic coalition, will MSNBC share its fate?

Sorry, but I have fantasies of justice.

njcommuter on May 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Of course Rachel Maddow lauds the Obambi to keep her job.
And then 45 minutes into the show she interviews her Slate buddy who is writing a story and making a movie about a poor poor 16 years old kid killed by an Obama drone and then softly and suddenly Obama really is a pig isn’t he.

She is completely an act and repeats talking points just like Scarborough for a paycheck. Rachel doesn’t like killer drones.

Marcus on May 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

US drone program

Lawyer leading UN drone inquiry praises speech by President Obama as a ‘significant step towards increased transparency’ – @BBCNews

Submitted 6 hours ago from http://www.bbc.co.uk by editor
==================================================

Full text of Obama’s speech on terrorism released – White House via @AP

Submitted 22 hours ago from bigstory.ap.org by editor

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/text-president-obama-speech-terrorism
==========

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-drone-program

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Definitely not because your party is anti minority and more importantly anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Please do tell us how well the minority/working man is doing under Obama’s regime.

gwelf on May 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Define working man for us HAL. Because I get the sense that you pretty much dismiss the majority of producers (i.e. taxpayers) in the number of Americans you think work for a living.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:16 PM

That huddle at the WH :
“No matter what I say in the speech, THIS is how you’ll respond, k ?”

pambi on May 24, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Do they hear things differently?

Because Obama sounded and looked angry, bitter, and showed very little bravado.

portlandon on May 24, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Definitely not because your party is anti minority and more importantly anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

*citation needed

Good Lt on May 24, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I thought it was more like…IRRELEVANT…

Pest on May 24, 2013 at 1:19 PM

That huddle at the WH :
“No matter what I say in the speech, THIS is how you’ll respond, k ?”

pambi on May 24, 2013 at 1:17 PM

That was my thought entirely. I think they thought that if they all cooed loudly enough it would drown out the drumbeat of scandals that are all going on at once.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:19 PM

So,another Speech,and thats all the Community Crock-Stirring
Agitationary Organizer ever does,

and then moves on to another venue,and its Speechification
Speechy all over again,like the movie,

*GroundHog Day*!!

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Valerie trained them well

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Midas on May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

sorry

DanMan on May 24, 2013 at 1:24 PM

WILL NO ONE RESCUE THAT POOR CHICKEN????

kim roy on May 24, 2013 at 1:29 PM

MSLSD:

********** FREE_BASING DA KOOL_AID Again ********!!!

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Exactly what I was thinking.

MSNBC: “Wow!! aMAZing! Bestest kool-aid EVAH!!” *smacks lips*

If Bush was President the heckler would have gotten more press than the speech.

albill on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Was that woman technically a heckler? I mean when you plant the disruption it really isn’t heckling but abetting.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Considering she was Media Benjamin of Code Pink, my suspicion is that someone in the penumbra of the White House gave her a call and suggested she might wanna kinda be there, to um, you know, voice her opinions, and do it loud. Because it sounded so darn contrived and convenient. She’s screaming about closing Gitmo, so he can conveniently say, “hey lady, I’m doing it as fast as I can.”

It wouldn’t surprise me if she was a plant–if the IRS can plant a question to start a controversy, why not Der Leader?

theotherone on May 24, 2013 at 1:30 PM

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM

This has little to do with a policy disagreement. Obama has been the most hated president by the billies since this country’s founding. You all disagreed with Clinton when he was president and never once did we see this kind of vitriol towards him.
Go to any tea billy rally and see the signs they carry. Go back to Kenya! Muslim President! Show us your birth certificate! Very little to do with policy differences.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Desperate troll is desperate.

kim roy on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I guess when comparing BS to BS it was probably some of his best BS.

iceman1960 on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Can’t wait to hear what laurels MSNBC will be heaping on to The One’s next utterings.

WestTexasBirdDog on May 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Explain why the same percentage constantly votes for any dem be it black or white? Let me guess? Its because blacks want their Obamaphones and gubmit checks right?

Definitely not because your party is anti minority and more importantly anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Thanks so much for illustrating perfectly why O’bama lost the college graduate vote in 2012, and won only by increasing his share of the high school dropout vote from 70% to 80%.

As for the Republicans being “anti=minority”, years before your parents were even born the first modern-day African American US Senator was sworn in. Republican Edward Brooke. He was there at the same time as your Party’s senior statesman Bobby “Sheets” Byrd, who was a Keagle in the KKK.

As for “working man”, tell us again why the unemployment rate (especially among minorities) is much higher now than it was when Chimpy Bush was in office.

F-

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM

I’m not old enough to know… Did the press say that about Nixon’s checkers speech?

Skywise on May 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM

You all disagreed with Clinton when he was president and never once did we see this kind of vitriol towards him.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Sure we did. But since you were in diapers back then, you were too young to remember it.

Clinton was called a murderer, and any search on the Democrat Search Engine Google will produce plenty of results. He was also accused of being a drug runner (see “Mena”), and even an undercover CIA agent (see “Mena”).

BTW, we impeached Clinton. We haven’t impeached O’bama. So using your own “logic”, we’re giving O’bama a better shake than we gave Clenis.

A+

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2013 at 1:38 PM

MSDNC is becoming a parody of itself, assuming that’s possible.

farsighted on May 24, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Wait, Obama gave a speech yesterday? Does He know He gave a speech yesterday?

CJ on May 24, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Talk about a low bar.

Socratease on May 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM

That is a pole vault bar lying on the ground. It is the only way he can get over it.

chemman on May 24, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I bet whatever was showing on HGTV or NAT GEO had higher ratings than Obama’s speech.

Erich66 on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

It was televised?

Definitely not because the media portrays your party as anti minority and more importantly anti working man.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

FIFY

talkingpoints on May 24, 2013 at 1:43 PM

It WAS one of his best speeches. He promised to drone less, which I interpret to mean he won’t be giving as many speeches. I can’t complain about that.

The Rogue Tomato on May 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I have asked this question before, and I have to ask it again!

Who the hell actually watches MSNBC? And why do some companies insist on sponsoring this joke of a network to begin with?

pilamaye on May 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Go to any tea billy rally and see the signs they carry. Go back to Kenya! Muslim President! Show us your birth certificate! Very little to do with policy differences.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Been to many TEA party rallies, have you? Or are you merely engaging in rectal speak?

As usual…

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:46 PM

the Nobel Peace Prize that he totally earned a mere nine months into his presidency?

The same Nobel Peace Prize he was nominated for even before he won the Democratic Party nomination for president.

ButterflyDragon on May 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM

He promised to drone less, which I interpret to mean he won’t be giving as many speeches. I can’t complain about that.

The Rogue Tomato on May 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I don’t think I’ve told you, but I’m a fan of your zingers.

Fallon on May 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Oh, look. HA’s dumbest lowest IQ troll is putting in an extended appearance instead of doing a drive-by.

To put its comments in perspective…

… you are constantly trying to reason with the ultra fringe crazies on this blog… do not waste your time trying to engage these fools… most are fringe crazies… one or two of them …haven’t ventured into insane land.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

You don’t change minds hauling personal insults with those you disagree with.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

lololol if you think my goal here is to change minds.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Enjoy the show.

farsighted on May 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Hilarious. I bet their 12 viewers were impressed, too.

I refuse to look – did they have a screenshot of his prom pictures up too? Or is that only on their bedroom ceilings?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Go to any tea billy rally and see the signs they carry. Go back to Kenya! Muslim President! Show us your birth certificate! Very little to do with policy differences.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Quit melding the Lyndon LaRouche people in with the tea party. Yes, the LaRouche nutjobs always show up to the tea party events, but they have nothing in common with them.

ButterflyDragon on May 24, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

You and your ilk refuse to criticize a black man because a he’s black, so who’s the racists? Look in the mirror a$$hole.

jawkneemusic on May 24, 2013 at 1:50 PM

You all disagreed with Clinton when he was president and never once did we see this kind of vitriol towards him.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Yeah. We only impeached him.

And I have yet to see a ChimpyMcBushObamaHitler call sign yet.

Although maybe it’s about time…

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The standard for vitriol against presidents was set by people like you HAL against Reagan and then again against Bush II.

chemman on May 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Hope they all brought a change of clothes.

Orgasms can get messy.

fogw on May 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM

This speech was historic. Yeah, historically bad.

RDE2010 on May 24, 2013 at 1:57 PM

As a student of history this speech ranks right up there with Star Wars and Lost.

Limerick on May 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Hey, I liked “Star Wars”. Well not I, II or III and VI wasn’t all that great with that teddy bear picnic. “Lost” had great looking woman. Come on, did anyone really watch it for the story? That’s like saying you read girly mags for the articles.

Dr. Frank Enstine on May 24, 2013 at 1:58 PM

MSNBC consensus:

Obama’s speech was historic, amazing, “one of the best of his presidency

Pom Poms sold separately.

ToddPA on May 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Hope they all brought a change of clothes.

Orgasms can get messy.

They swallow every utterance, so no worries.

MarkT on May 24, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

What a MORON!

98% of blacks voted for Obama based on NOTHING BUT race. Including you. A simple Google search is all it takes to enlighten you. Oh and I meant enlighten in the literary sense just in case you racist mindset starts playing tricks on you again.

HotAirian on May 24, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

“billies”

Racist much jerk?

and the plain fact is, if blacks weren’t so stuck in the universe of victim, they’d be able to see beyond the color of the person we’re talking about..

why the rest of America knows Obama could confess to, provide video of being an ax murderer on the next State of the Union and democrat blacks would still call outrage about it racist.

Still check the race of the reporter..

left wing black.. ok..

nonpartisan white…. mummble.. mummble … Hiiissssss RACIST!…

You are the victim of your own petty hatreds of whites, of Asians.. ANY race other than your own. The DNC has spent decades in urban schools teaching black democrats to see race under every leaf, every blade of grass.. so you CAN’T see anything else.

worse.. you don’t want too.

You don’t get, working class whites are no more connected than you are, and STILL you blame us for every failure, every misery. My family never owned slaves.. sent six men to fight in Union Blue.. I haven’t done anything to you.. to your family.. and none of us has..

That generation passed a long time ago.. but you blame the grandchildren of your ancestors enemies as if we had anything to do with it. You see white skin.. or republicans.. and ramble off every possible accusation, mindless, irrational.. the ones fixated on race are the Obama sycophants who see his skin tone only.. and decide there could never be any other reason as you blindly ignore his past, his own words.

So blind, so suck in your eternal quest to blame the white devil “billie”.. you can’t even see how the racism exposed is your own.

and claiming we never went after Clinton?

are you really going to stick with that? we impeached him.. questioned HIS many scandals.. but your own petty little ego can’t accept we’d go after a “white” president..

wow… just.. wow.

buy a mirror chump.. your own petty bigotry is showing.

mark81150 on May 24, 2013 at 2:09 PM

A Peace Prize to a man that has a Drone War going on in 20 Muslim countries.

faraway on May 24, 2013 at 2:12 PM

If the brown-nosers at MSNBC get any further up in there, we’re going to have to install an oxygen tube. lol
How sad was that “mash-up” clip? Wow.

Murf76 on May 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM

The media is becoming like the battered wife in an abusive marriage. All the media wants is Obama to tell them he loves them…and they’ll believe it.

MadisonConservative on May 24, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

You am talk funny.

itsspideyman on May 24, 2013 at 2:24 PM

When you are referring to a mediocre president, ‘his best’ doesn’t mean very much.

zoyclem on May 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Only they and their 6 viewers actually believe that.

Cherokee on May 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM

…you tea billies…

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Oh I see…you call out others for bigotry while demonstrating your own. I guess we should think of you as one of those ‘enlightened bigots’.

zoyclem on May 24, 2013 at 2:33 PM

He’s the female version of Rachael Madcow.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM


Nice!.. I like that one.. :-)

Al Hall on May 24, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Didn’t take you that long to inject the man’s race into this didn’t it? And you wonder why blacks will never accept you tea billies hate the man simply because he’s a black man occupying the “people’s” house.

HotAirLib on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Get your head out of your six o clock. The commenter you replied to called MSNBC racists and did not mention OBUMMER’s race.

hamradio on May 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

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