Hoyer: No one would vote for ObamaCare if they read the bill

posted at 8:33 pm on July 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The modern definition of gaffe is “the accidental act of a politician telling the truth.”  Steny Hoyer gives us a demonstration in his assessment of the health-care reform bill his party is pushing in both chambers of Congress.  The bill will get plenty of support as long as no one actually bothers to learn what it does:

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that the health-care reform bill now pending in Congress would garner very few votes if lawmakers actually had to read the entire bill before voting on it.

“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,” Hoyer told CNSNews.com at his regular weekly news conference.

Hoyer was responding to a question from CNSNews.com on whether he supported a pledge that asks members of the Congress to read the entire bill before voting on it and also make the full text of the bill available to the public for 72 hours before a vote.

In fact, Hoyer found the idea of the pledge humorous, laughing as he responded to the question. “I’m laughing because a) I don’t know how long this bill is going to be, but it’s going to be a very long bill,” he said.

This goes beyond the inanity of Hoyer in this particular application.  We elect Representatives from each district and Senators from each state to make the laws which govern us.  We didn’t elect their staffs to do that work for the empty suits who go to Washington.  The culture in the Beltway has evolved to the point where our elected officials have more or less become accessories to the permanent aide class within DC.

Elected officials will claim that legislation has become too complex to master individually.  Well, there’s a solution for that, too — stop offering bills so hideously complex and expensive that only the most skilled Talmudists can discern their meaning and impact.  It’s precisely because the legislative process has run off the rails that we get bucketloads of unintended consequences from bills like the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, and McCain-Feingold.

A good rule of thumb: if a Representative or a Senator can’t be expected to read it, it shouldn’t pass into law.  Apply this standard, and watch how that stops the growth of government and the stupidities of the law.

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No one will vote for Obama_____ if they read the bill. It’s too big to fail. Fast track it in the middle of the night. Reading is for non-believers.

Fletch54 on July 8, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Hoyer: No one would vote for ObamaCare if they read the bill

Technically: Hoyer: No one would vote for ObamaCare if they HAD TO read the bill FIRST

But they’re still a bunch of Communists.

mankai on July 8, 2009 at 8:37 PM

No one with any common sense would have WRITTEN the Bill either.

Cheers !

Kenny Solomon
Locked and loaded in South Flori-duh.

E T Cartman on July 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM

I can’t believe Hoyer actually laughed at the suggestion that our elected officials read a bill before voting for it. I’ve said it before — if any employee bound his or her employer to a contract without reading it and understanding its consequences, they would and should be fired.

Lucky for Hoyer that elected officials operate by an entirely different standard.

LASue on July 8, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Interesting democrat twist on honesty. Please let the RNC make hay with this little ditty.

sherry on July 8, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Is the KOOL-Aid mandatory before votin for said bill!!

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 8:43 PM

How about this:

When Congress passes any new or revised social or fiscal reform, it should only apply to them for 1 year to test it out.

Also, there should be a law where they can never, ever exempt themselves from any legislation.

BacaDog on July 8, 2009 at 8:44 PM

This is just sad.

1921 C DRUM on July 8, 2009 at 8:44 PM

C’Mon, why don’t we just do away with the whole “bill” thingie anyway. “Show of hands, ladies and germs in the chamber. All those in favor of letting Czar Fillnthblank take care of the thingamajob that’s got all our voters wishing they had some of that? Good. Those in favor of Secretary X making sure our voters’ feel avenged for any sleight to them, their heritage, their ancestral homeland and the puppy they wish they had growing up? Settled then. Let’s recess.”

TubbyHubby on July 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Not only should they read it but we should also have access to legislation. And they should stop hiding stuff in their legalese which has gotten so bad even lawyers need a secret decoder ring.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM

“Democrat Leader Laughs at Idea That House Members Would
Actually Read Health-Care Bill Before Voting on it”!
———————————–

*N *U *T * S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM

If a representative or senator won’t or can’t read a bill he or she either votes for or against, they have no business being a representative or senator.

paulsur on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

How about we just add an amendment to the US constitution that states that any senator or congressman who signs any legislation without reading it first be taken out and shot on the capital building step within 10 seconds of their signing said legislation?????

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Expecting any of these morons to exercise common sense is about as futile as trying to explain what individual freedom and personal responsibility means to a dead brain liberal. They don’t get it, they don’t want to get it, and they see absolutely no reason why they should get it.

The lefties on the hill don’t know what common sense is and wouldn’t have any use for it even if they could understand the meaning of the word.

Interesting point about the permanent aide class however. Perhaps something needs to be done about that too. How much trouble has been dropped on our heads and how much extra tax do we pay because these bozos let the aides handle all of our national business?

Spiritk9 on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

No one would have voted for Obama if the press had read his “bill of goods” and reported on it.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM

hey, i have a secret decoder ring…..but it only works with adults, not the koolaid drinking children that call them selves the guv-ment……

SHARPTOOTH on July 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Its getting very close to the time of pitchforks and torches.

These idiot bastards are driving this country straight into the ground, and much faster than most people realize.

-Dave

Dave R. on July 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM

The Ten Commandments only took two pages, and they have been sufficient for about 4000 years of human activity.

While Congress cannot be expected to be as proficient and prescient as the Author of the Ten Commandments, it does seem like we should have a lot less law.

After all, the whole idea behind the Ten Tables of Rome was that, for the first time, citizens would be able to read all of the law and therefore “ignorance of the law” is no excuse for breaking the law. Today some medium-sharp lawyer could easily make the case that the present body of law is so vast that it is unknowable…even by the best lawyers…and that therefore “ignorance of the law” IS a valid excuse for breaking the law!!!

Sometimes, despite the chaos which would occur if this ever happens, I think that this kind of scenario is the only way we’ll be able to get ‘hold of our legal system and make it functional and fair again.

How about a Constitutional Ammendment which permanently limits the entire body of Federal law to 435 pages: one for each elected Congressman. When both sides of the 435 pages are full (we need to specify 10 pt type minimum size), Congress must repeal something in order to enact a new law. This way, everyone would again be able to read and know the law.

I can dream, can’t I??

landlines on July 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

I kind of like that dorian. Some might shoot back though.

BacaDog on July 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM

It’s just common sense. Don’t vote on anything you don’t research first. If everyone did this our government and our financial system would be so much better and Obama would still be knocking on doors in Chicago.

Guardian on July 8, 2009 at 8:54 PM

How about we just add an amendment to the US constitution that states that any senator or congressman who signs any legislation without reading it first be taken out and shot on the capital building step within 10 seconds of their signing said legislation?????

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Best idea I’ve heard yet. But why bother amending the Constitution? That seems like so much trouble. Hell, the Dems don’t bother to amend the Constitution before they change it.

fossten on July 8, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Question!!

With this outstanding and brilliant Liberal Leadership!

What little shop of horrors,do these clever Leftys have
in store,with hidden little gems,on page 6,040,deep,way
back,thats buried,that won’t see the light of day,

—————–or the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 8:54 PM

No one would have voted for Obama if the press had read his “bill of goods” and reported on it.

Daggett on July 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Sorry, but I’m pretty certain that at least 90 percent of the African-American community would have voted for Obama even had they known that he was the biblical Satan himself, just as long as he was also BLACK…

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM

“Pitchforks and torches.”

LOL!

1921 C DRUM on July 8, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Common sense is all but extinct in this new administration!

Teebone3 on July 8, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Reading bills is for the little people.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 8:56 PM

SHARPTOOTH on July 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Well hang on to it, it’s going to come in handy.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:57 PM

They vote for these massive bills without reading them. This is beyone the pale. How can they be stopped before the next election? By 11/2010 most of the damage will be done.

ItsForTheChildren on July 8, 2009 at 8:57 PM

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I agree 100%.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 8:57 PM

If they are dumb enough to write it, they are dumb enough to vote for it.

SouthernGent on July 8, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Split off the bluedogs.

1921 C DRUM on July 8, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Did you see the fourteen things a man must be able to do in the headlines? I was looking for a response from you but didn’t see it.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Where the h#ll,is the,

‘Ministry of Pre-Reading Bills Srcutenzier Czar’!!

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:00 PM

These people are so pathetic.

Terrye on July 8, 2009 at 9:00 PM

this needs to be slapped into an attack ad and aired across what’s left of america

gatorboy on July 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM

I’ve read the bill and there’s a reason I insist on calling it moronic.

Yeah, there should be a law that if a lawmaker can’t be bothered to read the bill, they should be required to skip voting on it.

mjk on July 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM

The founding fathers wrote the entire Constitution on less than 6 pages. It covered every US citizen equally.

If today’s Congress tried to do the same thing, it would take an additional 1,000 pages for exemptions on who it wouldn’t cover.

BacaDog on July 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM

BTW, if there is a moderator reading the comments, can you please remove the picture of Waxman? It makes me feel like vommiting. Thank you. :)

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Sorry, but I’m pretty certain that at least 90 percent of the African-American community would have voted for Obama even had they known that he was the biblical Satan himself, just as long as he was also BLACK…

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I don’t think color is the issue; it’s the (D) behind the name.

Can anyone think of a Black Republican who could win more of the Black vote than a White Democrat like Bill Clinton?

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Hoyer is just turning right. He is following the change in the wind direction.

By Nov. 2010 we’ll have him pulling a “reverse-Specter”.

Sapwolf on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

The headline is disingenuous, but yeah… I would love to see some sort of cap on the size of bills.

DaveS on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Did you see the fourteen things a man must be able to do in the headlines? I was looking for a response from you but didn’t see it.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Please tell me that there really are no men in America who can not already do all 14 of those… That list is just soooo embarrassingly, well easy….

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

How about we just add an amendment to the US constitution that states that any senator or congressman who signs any legislation without reading it first be taken out and shot on the capital building step within 10 seconds of their signing said legislation?????

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Excellent idea!

ladyingray on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

How many years have they not been reading bills before voting? We’ve been paying these people to do a job and they’re not doing it. FIRE ALL OF THE POLITICIANS IN DC!

Kissmygrits on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Democrat Politicians exempt themselves from massive tax and spend bills that they don’t even read, but thrust upon us…….

…….. If you are not completely outraged, then you are already dead.

Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2009 at 9:04 PM

The modern definition of gaffe is “the accidental act of a politician telling the truth.”

“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,”

I don’t think it is accidental. On every major bill passed since Obama came into office, someone like Hoyer comes out and almost bragged about bills never being read. It’s almost like they are giving themselves cover.

Mostly recently it was Cap and Trade.

patrick neid on July 8, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Yes and isn’t that the point?

It must be nice to place yourself above the laws you write.

tarpon on July 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Please tell me that there really are no men in America who can not already do all 14 of those… That list is just soooo embarrassingly, well easy….

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Um, I hate to break this to you but there are PLENTY of men in the world that can’t do one of the items listed. I’ve dated a few.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM

fire them

CWforFreedom on July 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM

BTW, if there is a moderator reading the comments, can you please remove the picture of Waxman? It makes me feel like vommiting. Thank you. :)

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Yes, please. And while you’re at it, please remove the picture of Obama’s toothfairy.

sherry on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Murtha explains

U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Johnstown, told a constituent Monday night that it would be impossible for the nation’s elected leaders to read every piece of legislation that comes up for a vote.

“None of us have the time to read every bill,” Murtha said. “We depend on the committee responsible for it.”

Murtha described the complaint that all bills aren’t read as “political obstructionism.”

William Amos on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Another troll free thread?

Keep up the good work Ed.

Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I just figured Bishop’s reaction would be a hoot.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Um, I hate to break this to you but there are PLENTY of men in the world that can’t do one of the items listed. I’ve dated a few.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Sorry dear, what you were dating might have been biologically male… But it wern’t no man…

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

I have an idea for an RNC ad……..

“Would you sign a legal contract without reading it…..?

Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM

1921 C DRUM on July 8, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Kick the blue dogs.

They are worthless, useless, and inconsistent.

They not only hate the constitution, but they hate their own supposed ideology. It is a damn waste of oxygen… Hey, I just had a great idea in light of all this here global warming!

roscopico on July 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM

This administration,is a Shakespearen play,me thinks!

But which one!!(Sarc).

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM

William Amos on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Then they are going to have to figure a way to do legislation in a less cumbersome way. As surprised as I am that he would say, I am more surprised that his constituents would believe it.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Knucklehead on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

These are hard things for a fourteen year old to wrap their head around.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:11 PM

This administration,is a Shakespearen play,me thinks!

But which one!!(Sarc).

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Shakespeare wrote Dante’s Inferno??? Who knew… :P

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:11 PM

“None of us have the time to read every bill,” Murtha said. “We depend on the committee responsible for it.”

That’s your job @sswipe.

But you clowns think your primary job is getting re-elected by sending home as much pork as possible.

Do your job! You work for us, not the other way around.

fogw on July 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM

I have an idea for an RNC ad……..

“Would you sign a legal contract without reading it…..?

Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I think that’s how we got the financial/mortgage meltdown.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Um, I hate to break this to you but there are PLENTY of men in the world that can’t do one of the items listed. I’ve dated a few.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Asked where all the real men have gone, John Eldredge’s response is that we’ve told them all to become women.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Reading any of the garbage coming out of the congress is hazardous to your health——- care.

Time for hoppes #9 sniffing.

fourdeucer on July 8, 2009 at 9:13 PM

William Amos on July 8, 2009 at 9:07 PM

They don’t have time to read bills but how many of them have had time to write a book and promote it.

sherry on July 8, 2009 at 9:14 PM

fogw on July 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM

When I called to give my two cents on the Cap & Trade Bill, I asked the staffer who answered the phone if my representative had read the magic three hundred page addition. She gave me the impression that the staff was working on it but it was hard because the phones wouldn’t stop ringing. I almost cried for her./

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I apologize for my ineptness. I have been voting against Hoyer every two years since I turned 18 in 1981. To this day I have been unable to close the deal, for that I am truly sorry.

I commend Hoyer for his honesty, a first I think, but if he stays true to form, he will do all he can to make sure no Bill will be on the floor for scrutiny.

Never trust a Maryland Democrat, a perfect example is Pelosi, her father had her on the stump in Baltimore at age eight, and that’s a fact. She is from a powerful Baltimore political family, at least they were back in the day.

I am fast preparing for a day when America is no more, it is tear fetching, but I feel it is coming.

M-14 2go on July 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM

When the bill comes up for a vote these idiots will vote for it because they didn’t read it.

Our government has become a joke.

Brat4life on July 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM

None of this is new. Not only do Congressmen and Senators not read the legislation that they are voting on, many of them don’t even bother writing it; that task too often falls to interest groups and staff attorneys. So you have Legislators voting on bills that they did not write, and have not read.

What a great system.

Revenant on July 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Elected officials will claim that legislation has become too complex to master individually. Well, there’s a solution for that, too — stop offering bills so hideously complex and expensive that only the most skilled Talmudists can discern their meaning and impact.

This is the money quote. Also, those pesky unintended consequences are harder to predict with complex legislation.

So, reason tells us that complexity (in the case of legislation) can be bad.

Now Steny Hoyer has been the one to call out the emperors nudity.

Gaffe or not – we need to get this out there.
How about a whole chorus of spokesman go out there, through any medium they can find, and tell the American people that they support Steny Hoyers position on the proposed Obamacare legislation.

Don’t even explain it – just make it sound like Hoyer’s against the legislation.

Make him “explain” what he “meant.”

And, we get to play with the news cycle, for a change.

massrighty on July 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Did you see the fourteen things a man must be able to do in the headlines? I was looking for a response from you but didn’t see it.
Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 8:59 PM

What could I have said? Any man who can’t do all of those things needs to get a testosterone injection, though my list would include field stripping an AR15 and gutting large game.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Sorry to be pessimistic, but I’ve heard people griping about politicians my whole life, but not much changes–certainly very little improves. No one seems to learn from history, even recent history (like the Carter years).

One could argue that a nation gets the governance it deserves.

Suppose we get elect a good president in 2012. Eight years later, no matter how successful he/she is, the electorate may decide things could be better and vote, once again, for hope and change.

jazz_piano on July 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM

I don’t so much care for our government anymore. None of them.

myrenovations on July 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM

though my list would include field stripping an AR15 and gutting large game.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Ummm, how long do I get to f/s the AR15?? Gutting large game, not really a big deal, provided I get to you know, use a real knife and not a piece of flint napped stone… ;)

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:25 PM

can’t do one of the items listed….

txag92 on July 8,2009 at 9:13PM.

txag92:Playing the Devils advocate,I would love to see,
what the women’s list is!!hehe.

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

And riding a Harley with one hand on the throttle and the other on your female passenger’s thigh.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM

I was pretty sure that you would not be unimpressed.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Hoyer:
Ding!

when you really wanna getaway….

_______________________________________

cmsinaz on July 8, 2009 at 9:27 PM

So Steny is saying that our government is a joke. If anyone would know, he would.

GarandFan on July 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM

The head line makes an interesting point. If no one would vote for it if they read it do they brag about not reading the bill so they can vote for it, you know plausable deniability?

lwssdd on July 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM

And riding a Harley with one hand on the throttle and the other on your female passenger’s thigh.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Now you’re just being a wussy, riding your Harley with no hands while both hands are on your female partners [censored]… ;P

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Ummm, how long do I get to f/s the AR15?? Gutting large game, not really a big deal, provided I get to you know, use a real knife and not a piece of flint napped stone… ;)
doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:25 PM

You can take as much time as you need, though while you are trying to clear a blockage or jam I will be flanking you and preparing to turn you into a 12 gauge jigsaw puzzle. Take all the time in the world if you like.

Did I mention that you need to gut the large game while it is still alive and unwounded? With your teeth? Blindfolded?

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:16 PM

So the staff reads it, then what, they recite chapter and verse of everything they read to their congressman? No, they probably cherry pick what they deem suitable to pass on. Nice, a bunch of staffers who we don’t know, and were probably given their job as payback are reading the bills and making decisions.

Who elected them? Not us.

fogw on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Now you’re just being a wussy, riding your Harley with no hands while both hands are on your female partners [censored]… ;P
doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I forgot to mention that the hand on the throttle was ripped from a pedestrian as I drove by.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Let Freedom Ring has sent to and asked each representative and senator to sign a pledge that each will read the bills they vote on and will give the people 72 hours to review the bills. Let Freedom Ring will give congress two weeks to respond and then will release the results. The organization has also asked that we, the people, send a copy to each of our congressional delegation. Yes, these bills are long and complicated, but when I was a manager of major construction projects I had to read and comprehend what was involved in my projects and was held accountable for what was the result of implementing those requirements; I expect no more of my congresspersons. I would also expect each member who signed the pledge to work to block any vote or approval until they had fulfilled the requirements of the pledge.

I would say that not signing this pledge or working to implement it would be a sufficient reason for me not to vote for a member of my congressional delegation.

amr on July 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

use a real knife……

doriangrey on July 8,2009 at 9:25PM.

doriangrey: C’mon,a pepsi pull-tab will do Dori,as the
knife!ahem,haha:)

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

I would like all proposed bills and amendments to be available on line for at least 7 days prior to any action taken, unless a 3/5ths majority agrees to override the delay. Could that be adopted as a rule when Republicans next take over the House?

Loxodonta on July 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

use a real knife……

doriangrey on July 8,2009 at 9:25PM.

doriangrey: C’mon,a pepsi pull-tab will do Dori,as the
knife!ahem,haha:)

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

ROTFLMAO…..

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:39 PM

I forgot to mention that the hand on the throttle was ripped from a pedestrian as I drove by.

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Oh, well in that case… carry on dude… ;)

doriangrey on July 8, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Who elected them? Not us.

fogw on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Some donor’s kid probably. Like you, I assume they just cherry pick parts of the Bill to quote in order to justify their vote to the constituents.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:42 PM

We need to realize (any many do) that this is nothing more than taxation without representation. A representative who can’t be bothered to read legislation is one is refuses to understand how he/she is spending my tax dollars. That leads to the arrogance and out-of-touchedness that we all feel from our these people who are supposed to represent our interests.

Also, I know a couple of Congressional staffers, and they are twenty-somethings who majored in political science. How scary is it that they are the ones writing our laws??

MochaLite on July 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Bishop on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM

I knew you wouldn’t let me down, this is the response I expected.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I don’t believe aides write these bills – I think they’re actually written by lobbyists. Senator/Representative simply tells their aides that all requests for funding must be presented by such-and-such a date, then they’re just collected and slapped into the bill in question. Their is just no way that congressman whomever could possibly know, or care, about 90% of the obscure crap that our tax dollars are funding. They’re too busy raising money for the next election.

Mr. Pickles on July 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

txag92:Playing the Devils advocate,I would love to see,
what the women’s list is!!hehe.

canopfor on July 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Did some research and came across this. Number 18 is especially true. I, however, would add not harming someone during PMS.

txag92 on July 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

In fact, Hoyer found the idea of the pledge humorous, laughing as he responded to the question. “I’m laughing because a) I don’t know how long this bill is going to be, but it’s going to be a very long bill,” he said.

These clowns could be sooooooooo dead if the GOP would just mount a relentless opposition.

ddrintn on July 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM

^ Unfortunately, too many in the GOP are clowns as well.

ddrintn on July 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I would like all proposed bills and amendments to be available on line for at least 7 days prior to any action taken, unless a 3/5ths majority agrees to override the delay. Could that be adopted as a rule when Republicans next take over the House?

Loxodonta on July 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Not a bad idea but I’d switch from 7 days to 1 year. Less legislation, less expense, less loss of freedom.

Jeff from WI on July 8, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Congressional Oath:

“I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Vote these bums out of office!

TN Mom on July 8, 2009 at 9:50 PM

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