Video: Palin on Palin; Update: Fox interview added
posted at 9:36 am on July 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
CNN, ABC, and Fox got interviews with Sarah Palin in the last 24 hours. When the other interviews become available, I’ll add that to this post, but we have the CNN interview, conducted by Drew Griffen yesterday afternoon. It’s lengthy but worthwhile:
ABC has a report out on its interview, conducted by Kate Snow:
“You know conditions have really changed in Alaska in the political arena since Aug. 29, since I was tapped to run for VP. When that opposition research — those researchers really bombarded Alaska — started digging for dirt and have not let up. They’re not gonna find any dirt,” she said. “We keep proving that every time we win an ethics violation lawsuit and we’ve won every one of them. But it has been costing our state millions of dollars. It’s cost Todd and me. You know the adversaries would love to see us put on the path of personal bankruptcy so that we can’t afford to run.”
But when I asked Palin if she ever decided to pursue national office again, as she did less than a year ago when she joined Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the race for the White House, wouldn’t she encounter the same political blood sport? Can such ugliness ever be avoided?
Palin said there is a difference between the White House and what she has experienced in Alaska. If she were in the White House the “department of law” would protect her from baseless ethical allegations.
“I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we’ve been charged with and automatically throw them out,” she said.
There is no “Department of Law” at the White House.
Another major reason that Palin said she is walking away from her first term as Alaska’s governor is because after she made the decision not to seek a second term as governor she would be a lame duck and she said she refuses to “milk” that status. She said most politicians “say it’s a paycheck, it’s a paycheck and I get to travel around. No! That’s politics as usual.”
If Palin wants us to accept this at “face value,” as she says in both the CNN and ABC interviews, then she needs to stop talking about her supposed lame-duck status. She wouldn’t have been a lame duck for 16 months. George Bush was not a lame duck in 2005, 2006, 2007, or even most of 2008 as president. In that time, Bush got two Supreme Court appointments confirmed, began holding the line on spending after the 2006 election, and most importantly kept Iraq from being abandoned by Congress. During the last two years, Bush fought off legal action by Congress and a variety of political opponents, much as the Clintons did in their last term, and neither quit to do it, even after Clinton was invited to do so by the House of Representatives.
Otherwise, the CNN shows a relaxed Palin, more herself than at any time, taking tough but fair questions from Griffen with aplomb. I don’t think this will convince those who have made up their minds one way or the other, but it’s better to have Palin answering these questions directly.
Update: Time Magazine gets the print-venue exclusive with Sarah Palin. And here’s the Fox video:
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So what. I’m in this because I have “A Servant’s Heart” not for personal gain. It is my job to enlighten them.
They are adult men (well ok, maybe not AP) and so it doesn’t help to pull punches. You have to get their attention.
They have enlightened me on various occasions on this site.
The learning goes back and forth.
Sapwolf on July 7, 2009 at 5:14 PM
No. I see his cartoons when Manly posts them on his website. I’ll check my e-mail for a notification.
Sapwolf on July 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I think after Cap and Trade, communist health care and buddying up to every despot in the world, not to mention throwing Honduras to the Chavez communist wolves, America may be ready for a change, and real hope way before 2016.
Palin is willing to fight … are we? We need to play as dirty, if not dirtier than the leftist scum. We can’t be afraid of calling them what they are and challenging them on everything they do.
darwin on July 7, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Mad, you know that is wrong and I even B!tch slapped Allah for posting that and actually showed it was untrue.
Please don’t feed the myths.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 5:17 PM
So is this really her view, or was she (going against her own principles) to tag along with McCain? I assume the former because I do think she’s a woman of integrity.
ProfessorMiao on July 7, 2009 at 5:18 PM
I’d like to hear her views now … free of McCain’s little Hitlers.
darwin on July 7, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Can you point me to something on that?
ProfessorMiao on July 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM
You touched on this in an earlier comment, and my first thought then and now was, “And yet BO can get away with his unqualified “jobs saved or created” crap and have it disseminated as fact by our oh-so ethical media.”
anglee99 on July 7, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Yep.. read that thread. Youwill see me point out to Allah that 1. it was a lie. 2. I back up everything via links and 3. Allah STILL kept it up because he believed it.
And EVERYONE on that thread was mad at Allah and agreed with me.
Look Miao.. I don’t just defend Palin. I back up everything concerning her. And did it months before she was picked. I am not the normal Palin bot, Palinationist.. whatever you wanna call me. I have been there beside her for years. I have payed attention to Alaska politics for years.
I have LIED about any of it. You won’t see me do it now.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 5:23 PM
opps.. wow.. I need more caffine.. or more sleep.
I meant Haven’t… *sighs*
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 5:23 PM
I like it. Can I get a bathrobe with that logo?
portlandon on July 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM
What is she going to do next?
TimeTraveler on July 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Her Book, campaign with others running in other States, go to fundraisers… anything she wants.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I went through the comments and couldn’t find a single post by you.
MadisonConservative on July 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I think she now has the perfect time/environment for seclusion of a sort–writing her book. This could be her launch pad. The book, the tour all controlled by her. Thought out and presented well at signings she could get to the independent voters with a fresh message. Current economics will be be helpful.
The MSM will try to prevent all this if she gives them the slightest opportunity. Rumor has it she has been talking to Cheney and Rudy. If so that is great news. They know this game.
patrick neid on July 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM
great..
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 5:33 PM
…sooo do you have links to back that up?
MadisonConservative on July 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM
I don’t think they would suspend any other state projects. They’d just spend an extra 2 million dollars that year. I’m guessing that’s not a lot of money compared to Alaska’s total budget. It shouldn’t be spent lightly, but it seems like a reasonable price to keep a good governor in office.
I should have just asked directly from the beginning:
Was there a noticeable decline in the quality of state services for the period that Palin was fighting all those ethics complaints? It’s hard for me to believe that no one expected Palin to resign if things were really as bad as she says they were.
RightOFLeft on July 7, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I’m not accusing, suggesting or even thinking you lied. But you don’t have any responses in the thread MadCon linked to so it must be in another.
Is Univision.ca an American outlet, does anyone know? Because I can’t figure out why they would misrepresent what she said to them.
ProfessorMiao on July 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM
To all the idiots who are crowing that this decision to resign has irreparably damaged her and she is not a contender for 2012 any more, read this frickin poll. Her numbers unchanged effectively. Which means this decision hasn’t affected people at all. Oh, by the way, she is also tied with Romney and Huck as the top three candidates.
Her political career is ooooooooooover. Morons.
promachus on July 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Same here. I don’t doubt you upinak, but I’ve never seen a refutation of the interview.
MadisonConservative on July 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Sarah Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn’t whine about tough media coverage
What happened to “you have to plow right through it”? Big talk from Palin when she was at 80% approval. The more you find out about her, the bigger fool you realize she is. However, I think it is time for McCain and his people to explain how this woman came to be picked for the VP spot. What were they thinking? What was the vetting conducted? McCain owes us all an explanation for putting someone so ill prepared and not strong enough to withstand the DC criticism on his ticket.
Chekote on July 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Wish I’d seen that before I scanned them all… My eyes are going buggy.
ProfessorMiao on July 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I’m looking, I seem to remember this Upinak vs. Allah thread on Immigration, I don’t think it was an immigration link though. It was something else, I think a McCain link, with Allah posting an update about Palin……looking for it.
portlandon on July 7, 2009 at 6:00 PM
To all the idiots who are crowing that this decision to resign has irreparably damaged her and she is not a contender for 2012 any more, read this frickin poll. Her numbers unchanged effectively. Which means this decision hasn’t affected people at all. Oh, by the way, she is also tied with Romney and Huck as the top three candidates.
Her political career is ooooooooooover. Morons.
promachus on July 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Yes the turth is hard to take. Now you take that poll and you add in all the reps who say they will not vote her and repoll after the nomination and most not all will probably tell you they will vote for her since she is the nominee.
Now can you say the same of the dems? I not so sure. If Obama continues to fall I could see dems changing sides very quickly. since only about 21% of the country is liberal that is Obama’s base. and this is without her campaigning, talking, her policies etc. It may go higher it may not only time will tell.
what we do know that the talkingheads (yeah talking to you ED, ALLAH and ACE) that declared her political career over were wrong.
unseen on July 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Palin’s right. Clinton shouldn’t whine. She got let off easy.
McCain’s got your explanation … just get a little closer. Yeah that’s it. See him bent over right over there? Now lower your head … gently son, gently.
darwin on July 7, 2009 at 6:06 PM
atheling on July 7, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I disagree. I thought Clinton was treated badly during the primaries, though it was nothing compared to what Palin got flung at her.
I don’t like Clinton’s politics, but even I could see the bias against her because Obama’s media lapdogs were pushing for him.
atheling on July 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I should have just asked directly from the beginning:
Was there a noticeable decline in the quality of state services for the period that Palin was fighting all those ethics complaints? It’s hard for me to believe that no one expected Palin to resign if things were really as bad as she says they were.
RightOFLeft on July 7, 2009 at 5:52 PM
there are other considerations then that. Do people not think in more than one dimension any more? Yes the ethics charges were expensive. Yes she could have dealth with them and served out her term. If that was the only think. Yes the press coverage was 100% negative and she could have handled that and served out her term. Yes the rules of the governorship in AK is different and it kept her on the sidelines nationally. She could have excepted that and served out her term. Yes the money spent by her family and state fighting the dem attacks via ethichs charges could hve been borne by the state and Palin. Yes her kids seemed to have taken the attacks in stride and remain confident and outgoing.
the entire point is that when taken together the risk/reward equation was to resign. anyone with any common sense can see that is the best alternative and really her only option if she wanted to play a major part on the national stage. In her words she choose to fight instead of hunker down and milk it for the money.
unseen on July 7, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I didn’t say she didn’t get treated badly, I said she got let off easy using Palin abuse standards.
darwin on July 7, 2009 at 6:13 PM
That’s yet to be seen isn’t it? I hope it’s not over. I hope she play’s a monumental role in swinging House and Senate seats in 2010. I hope if she feels that she is in a position to seriously challenge Obama that she does.
But isn’t that all speculation right now? Say Ed, AP, and ACE all do end up wrong. It does not make them traitors or worse as they have been described. It makes them wrong, and we’ve all been there. I don’t understand the desire or need to keep harping on that point especially when it’s not been proven.
I love Palin, would vote for her tomorrow because I do think she really serves with a servant’s heart, and by far the most ethical politician I have seen in my lifetime. But the level of worship I’ve witnessed over the past 4 days has been….. disturbing. In the end, she is just a person.
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Dude, Upinak is a giant in the Palin world.
GIANT!
Sapwolf on July 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Yeah…. but why post it again and again and agian when nobody freaking looks back when.
It was on one of the Does Palin believe in the Boarder threads. I am tired of looking things up for everyone else.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Don’t waste your energy, upinak, he only believes in himself.
peacenprosperity on July 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM
atheling on July 7, 2009 at 6:46 PM
There was once a time that I defended Palin. I thought the media was extremely unfair to her and her family, and I cannot believe how far Americans allowed it to go. However, when I see her doing stuff like this I realize that she is, or at least can be, a liability to the party rather than an asset.
SRL23 on July 7, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Well if they can come out in 60secs and say she is done then i have no problem showing that their gut reaction was wrong when actual facts come out and say she isn’t.
she has survived the resignation intact with the base.
what she does with that remains to be seen. will she fade away? maybe. will she not live up to the hype. possibiliy
however, th egallup polls shows that the instant reaction thinking that she was done in politics was wrong. period end of story.
As for her followers. I can only speak for myself. It is not Palin as much as it is her message of smaller limted government, energy independence, lower taxes, lower spending. Like it or not she is the ONLY mainstream leader talking about these things and living them. al gore she is not. She lives her talk. Therefore i will support her message and if she isn’t the 100% perfect messenger
I could careless because unlike the “reality based” bloggers like ACe. Perfect is not the goal….good enough is.
unseen on July 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM
blockquote> George Bush was not a lame duck in 2005, 2006, 2007, or even most of 2008 as president. In that time, Bush got two Supreme Court appointments confirmed, began holding the line on spending after the 2006 election, and most importantly kept Iraq from being abandoned by Congress. During the last two years, Bush fought off legal action by Congress and a variety of political opponents, much as the Clintons did in their last term, and neither quit to do it, even after Clinton was invited to do so by the House of Representatives.
I don’t know if this has been said already, but you’re being obtuse here, Ed.
The President of the US
EQUALthe Governor of AlaskaSmall population states like Alaska inherently need to be less partisan to get things done. The national Democrat party has let it be known to the locals in Alaska, it’s been said the “word came down from Washington,” that they’re to throw everything they can at Palin. She was getting a lot done before and she felt proud of that. Now she can’t get shinola done. And by resigning and passing the baton of incumbency to someone else she might make her impact on state politics more lasting.
Also, the Governor of Alaska does not have the resources of a President of the US– not the head of state, not the de facto head of a national party, not the same bully pulpit, not the same political advice and talent… not. the. same.
silverfox on July 7, 2009 at 7:54 PM
What is this “Department of Law” that protects the President?? Did Sarah learn about this in Moose Hide Tanning class while on her way to a prestigious 6-year Communications degree?
You betcha!
simplesimon on July 7, 2009 at 8:07 PM
deeply concerned
hes deeply concerned about everything
michelle dropped a bit of grease on her plaid skirt
deeply concerned
joe biden bumped his head in the oval office
deeply concerned
blatantblue on July 7, 2009 at 9:53 AM
except the murder of a soldier on US soil by a muslim. they he had to think for week on what to say.
unseen on July 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM
LOL. You really are simple, aren’t you? Joke’s on you, bud!
littleguy on July 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM
What is this “Department of Law” that protects the President?? Did Sarah learn about this in Moose Hide Tanning class while on her way to a prestigious 6-year Communications degree?
You betcha!
simplesimon on July 7, 2009 at 8:07 PM
you do know the Department of justice. And the office of the FBI, the secert service, all that work for the President. geez some people are really stupid. You can not even figure out what someone means. I bet advertisers love you
unseen on July 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Ever tan a moose hide? Might wanna stop and think before you stutter. Your brain is not up to par.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Ahhhh.. the other side of the spectrum pipes in. Yes a Palin gaffe, there is a Department of Justice and not a Department of Law.
But at least Palin learned in college:
1. There are only 50 states. (Obama)
2. What is and is not in the Constitution. (Biden)
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Actually, not a gaffe. There is an Alaska Department of Law, which is the entity she was referring to. She was actually making an analogy. This is a fine distinction in the language that folks like our simple friend can’t comprehend.
littleguy on July 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM
An Obama voter. Can’t expect too much of them.
ddrintn on July 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Yes a gaffe. Palin was talking about a President not having to deal with all the ethics complaints she as Governor of AK does. Plus the money out of her own pocket which Presidents don’t have to worry about either.
But it’s OK. She mis-spoke, but on even remotely close to the same frequency the Obama/Biden tandem manage to do. In that regard, it’s no contest in Palin’s favor.
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM
“but not even remotely”
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM
In college? Which one of the 5 that she graced with her presence on her way to her vaunted Communications degree?
Remember to ask yourself this:
Where indeed.
simplesimon on July 7, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I agree that it’s a small matter, but she was saying “your Department of Law at the White House”, which is to say the equivalent of the DoL at the Federal level. I don’t call it a gaffe when the meaning is clear to me. Lefties just assume that something called the Department of Law has to be a verbal mangling of some sort because it came out of Governor Palin’s mouth, since they’ve been drinking the DNC Koolaid!
littleguy on July 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Yep, definately the opposite side of the spectrum. Criticizing a person for seeking a higher education.
What’s next? Critisism for having children… oh wait, that’s already been so overdone.
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 9:15 PM
LOL. Did you even matriculate from an elementary school? Does Putin’s proposed Arctic Force ring a bell? How about thermonuclear war heads on Korean missiles aimed at Hawaii and Alaska? Hell, even a actual moose has more sense than you do!
littleguy on July 7, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Bush began holding the line on spending in 2006? What? Lol.
True_King on July 7, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Rockefeller alert.
True_King on July 7, 2009 at 9:23 PM
littleguy
I saw this was a major talking point on MSNBC…. the deptarment of law thing…. actually, the term was clearly used as a general object, not as a proper noun. If she thought there was an official department of law, she would have called it the Department of Law… not your department of law. It was clearly a comparison of the Alaska Department of Law to “your” (federal) equivilant.
But since it was Sarah Palin, this must be twisted, distorted, and mocked.
BPD on July 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Hey DICK… what Starbucks are you typing this crap from? Some people have to leave college to raise money to go back. I did, 3 times. I didn’t have a choice. Most people don’t. I’m happy for you that you were born into a life of wealth. The vast majority of Americans are not. Take your snobby ass elsewhere. You’re despicable and give America a bad name.
BPD on July 7, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Settle down, race fan. You dopey apologists have an excuse for everything.
simplesimon on July 7, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Translation: Shut up redneck. You pathetically unedcuated rube’s simplistic logic is lost on me.
Don’t tell me words don’t matter….
Hog Wild on July 7, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I don’t know if this was posted yet, but here it is:
(via C4P)
Palin’s office details complaint costs
INC on July 7, 2009 at 10:35 PM
I just read through all 9 pages.
My conclusion is that the Palin detractors have nothing but talking points to cling to, no facts, nothing but a stubborn refusal to accept the common sense truth that is staring them in the face.
Upinak is correct as usual, ROL is a jerkoff, and battleofthepanto is correct as well.
MadisonConservative is trolling and moving the goalposts as usual.
fossten on July 7, 2009 at 11:08 PM
interesting how I can’t seem to post anything
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 11:09 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/09/29/fighter_planes_intercept_russian_bombers/
for mr simpleton
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 11:12 PM
My final thought of the night is this:
Liberals (evil) will always win over conservatives (good) because they are always willing to use tactics that work, which conservatives won’t use.
Here’s a partial list of their victims:
Tom DeLay
Mark Foley
George Allen
Mark Sanford (somebody dug up the dirt on him)
Robert Bork
Joe the Plumber
Sarah Palin
Ann Coulter understands how to play the game, as do her supporters. Everyone else is too wimpy for this game.
fossten on July 7, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Oh I am starting to use the game. I learned the “game” in highschool… pretty pathetic.
upinak on July 7, 2009 at 11:17 PM
+1
Geochelone on July 7, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Okay, the “5 colleges” crap was old in October of last year.
Let’s review; I’ll even try to keep it, how shall we say, simple for you.
1. Not from a wealthy background
2. Not of a protected, or disadvantaged class or group – no affirmative action for her, as for many people.
3. She worked her way through college.
4. Her records and transcripts are all public record – not mysteriously sealed.
5. While in college (ages 18-22?) she changed goals and directions. Think this has ever happened before?
See, what she did was, lived a normal life.
massrighty on July 8, 2009 at 2:54 AM
+100
atheling on July 8, 2009 at 3:29 AM
Wow! This lady’s out there in a friggin’ boat fishing like it’s just another day…quite a contrast to the self-proclaimed alpha males, assorted drunks, philanderers, big mouths and cokeheads along with their eunuch assistants and ‘strategists’ running this country and telling us what the hell America is really about.
And that goes for both parties.
To the Kool-Aid drinking members of NOW out there, if you want to know what a real liberated American woman is look no further than Mrs. Palin. God bless those NOW ladies who were true in their beliefs and stood by her in the campaign.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 8, 2009 at 4:26 AM
You forgot she was a young mother too during that time. The fact that she stuck to her education and completed is amazing in itself. BTW, Bill Clinton is a drop out. I don’t see why this is a problem other than to be a elitist boor.
promachus on July 8, 2009 at 5:19 AM
Sorry, Bill Gates was a dropout.
promachus on July 8, 2009 at 5:21 AM
Just remember all those who are calling her a quitter and are not listening to our painful, repeated explanations, are Romney supporters, most of them any anyway. They are jumping on this issue because they believe it helps their candidate. Fairness to Sarah is not part of their program.
promachus on July 8, 2009 at 5:45 AM
You’re right of course. And, although it may be Quixotic, I keep trying to engage folks like simplesimon, using reason and logic, in response to the usual combination of unsupported facts and recycled talking points.
massrighty on July 8, 2009 at 6:01 AM
Although some Frost biographers suggest that it was actually written in an ironic vein, remember the last of the poem;
“I took the road less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference.”
I think Governor Palin is simply taking an indirect route, which may/may not ultimately result in her being a candidate in 2012 or 2016.
massrighty on July 8, 2009 at 6:04 AM
I take the view that we are in a political war for the soul of America.
With that in mind, I think it becomes pretty obvious that Sara Palin is an extremely important asset for the right, for the simple reason that the left fears and hates her out of all proportion to her real ability to affect them. It is that fear and hate that drives them to expend such large amounts of energy, money and other resources on trying to minimize her.
Politics is essentially a matter of name or brand recognition. The person who gains name recognition the most without making major blunders that soil their name, wins. Sara Palin came onto the national scene last year because John McCain needed someone who was young, well spoken and with a track record of solid conservative policies. He needed that to offset his own lack of all those things. Palin had those things, but she also had something else. She lived a life that included the exact reverse of several of the left’s pet agenda items. And so they went after her for the simple reason that they had to make her look bad, because they didn’t want a person that did so many things outside their agenda to appear successful. That went far beyond the need to win that particular election. Palin became an icon for he left more than for the right, but one they were driven to try to destroy.
In the process they ensured that Palin’s name got known by millions of people who would have never noticed her. That name has been repeated millions of times, in thousands of venues, and in tens of millions of conversations, where it would not have been if the left had not saw her as a threat to their agenda. In essence, the left created the nationally important Sara Palin.
MikeA on July 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Once again…
I don’t even know where the goalposts are now.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 8:43 AM
My thought here: she is not using the term “lame duck” quite right. Is she a lame duck? Absolutely. When did she become one as governor of Alaska? I say that happened the day that she accepted the nod for VP.
A lame duck is someone who’s remaining time in office is made ineffective by virtue of the possibility or expectation of change in that office. Endless ethics complaints have served to create that expectation of change by preventing her from doing her agenda and also by putting a cloud of suspicion over her.
Is she running for President? Right now, I don’t care. Do I think that she can continue her agenda for Alaska and for the USA at large far better without the “ball and chain” of the title of governor? I do care, and she’s convinced me that she can.
flutejpl on July 8, 2009 at 8:56 AM
The interviews went fine. She probably shouldn’t do 3 on the same day, since the questions are all the same.
AnninCA on July 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Thanks!
AnninCA on July 8, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Try this bozo…local terms are often used to explain similar departments.
Now add to this…Obama has 46 attorneys on staff, President Bush had 9.
If 46 isn’t a “department” what is it? A gaggle, clutch, pod???
right2bright on July 8, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Well you got your name right, look at my earlier post…simple simon
And my apology Hog Wild, you were responding to these idiots and I didn’t catch the whole thread….these guys are the bozos.
right2bright on July 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM
and her husband is a working man, a union member and part native Alaskan..
callingallcomets on July 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Upinak is an Alaskan. He is a big C4P guy. He is to be respected..nuff said
callingallcomets on July 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM
He’s also a she.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Awww crap .. Mad blew my cover.
Yep it is official.. IT’S A GIRL!
upinak on July 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM
It’s a woman.
Even in Wisconsin.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Stop being a grump…grumpy.
upinak on July 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Haven’t had my beer and frozen custard yet.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Stellar analysis/sarc:
atheling on July 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
“The only man who can save America” – Ron Paul nuts
“The One” – Guess which nuts said that?
A lot of similarities.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM
No problem.
Hog Wild on July 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Wow, that’s the first interview I’ve seen in ages where the reporter actually treats her like a human being. Is this guy a real journalist, or are they all just relieved because they no longer see her as a threat?
kg598301 on July 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM
So by using a red herring, you think you’ve managed to preclude any more use of the word ‘one.’ Not so clever. Care to argue the point on the merits, namely by listing all the current candidates who are truly conservative? Thanks.
fossten on July 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Anyone who discusses “true conservatism” on this site will invariably run into 100 other posters with their own definitions of “true conservatism”. I don’t know if you were around during 2007 and 2008, but with the multitude of candidates running, the phrase “true conservative” almost became a meme. McCain, Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, Brownback, Hunter, Tancredo, Paul, Keyes…all fell once a point of contention was brought to light. People who didn’t even run were the center of such quarrels, like Pawlenty, Ryan, Flake, DeMint, McCotter, Perry, and so on. Remember how many people thought Sanford was the future of conservatism? Glenn Beck has his own acolytes, as well.
Regardless of what “true conservatism” is, there are two certainties in this day and age. The first is that you won’t get 50% of conservatives to agree on which is the “truest”, and the second is that if one comes close, people will invest so much hope that they’ll attack anyone who points out their flaws. The latter happened with almost ever major candidate last election. Doubting Giuliani at RedState got you banned. Heaven help you if you spoke ill of Huck in front of evangelicals. And now, Palin is attracting the same small bunch. It’s not their fault. We’ve been dealt some serious blows in 06 and 08, and some people are turning support into faith. The problem is that any resultant loss will just embitter conservatives more.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Palin is attracting far more than a ‘small bunch.’ The problem is that any time we get a decent conservative to step forward, the left (and that includes the blueblood country club RINOs) destroys him or her. How do you propose we deal with that?
fossten on July 8, 2009 at 6:45 PM
A good start would be not elastically reacting to the inevitable left-wing seething hatred with blind devotion. However, that seems to be difficult.
Some people seem bound and determined to create a conservative Obama. If that’s what you want, go ahead. I don’t want a cult figure.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM
LOL. Cult figure? The other guys would love a piece of that, wouldn’t they?
littleguy on July 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Sure.. let me make it a “Cult”
Mad.. just for you “Palination”
upinak on July 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM
By the way, the small bunch I was referring to were worshipers which, as I noted, flock to many candidates. It just so happens that most of those candidates have faded out of the spotlight for the moment. I was not referring to actual supporters, nor speaking as if their numbers were diminutive.
MadisonConservative on July 8, 2009 at 8:59 PM
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