Gore: Fighting global warming is like fighting Nazis; Update: ToL scrubs its story of Nazi references

posted at 7:23 pm on July 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Just when you think you’ve heard every stupid thing a politician can say, Al Gore swoops in to the rescue.  Faster than one can say Manbearpig, Gore tells an audience in Oxford that the fight against global warming needs the same kind of commitment that Winston Churchill demonstrated against the Nazis in World War II.  Unfortunately, the only troops we see in this fight all wear green jackets:

Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.

The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change. …

Speaking in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment , sponsored by The Times, Mr Gore said: “Winston Churchill aroused this nation in heroic fashion to save civilisation in World War II.”

He added: “We have everything we need except political will but political will is a renewable resource.”

Consider this a slightly milder version of Paul Krugman’s Earth-treason argument.  Gore isn’t quite calling skeptics traitors, but if politicians don’t stop listening to them, they will let the Nazis win.  And we hate those guys, right?

Of course, this analogy suffers on several levels, including intellect and taste.  World War II was not a debate over economic theories and governing philosophies, or even a difference of opinion on scientific hypotheses.  The Nazis had more mundane concerns, like world domination and the extermination of the Jews.  While Winston Churchill had warned about the Nazis for years and had been shunned for it by the British establishment as a war-monger, he had the political will to do something about the Nazis because the Nazis had begun attacking France and Great Britain.  With guns, bombs, and real death, too, and not just hyperbole about a Waterworld future.

When advocates resort to this kind of hyperbole, it’s usually due to a lack of factual support to their arguments.  Invoking the Nazis is about as hyperbolic as it gets.  What’s next, the aliens from Independence Day?

Excelsior!

Update: The Times of London has now scrubbed all of the references to “Nazi” from its article at the link.  Simon at Deceiver wonders “who got to them.”  Apparently, the ToL doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to stand up to Gore and his disciples.  Looks like a white feather is in order.

Update II: Simon managed to grab a screen cap of the header for the article, which they forgot to clean.

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Gore won’t be forgotten. Like Carter, and now Obama, he’ll go down in history as a complete fraud and failure– an American traitor. This is a man who was groomed for greatness, and he’s done nothing but destroy everthing he’s ever touched. Charles Foster Kane comes to mind. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he dies broken.

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM

Frankly, I think that picture of Al Bore warrants a caption contest.

WordsMatter on July 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM

Couldn’t agree more JD.

Keemo on July 8, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Al Gore is the man made crisis.

Gore has fabricated his pseudoscience and Oxford/elitists are buying it so as to make money by making fools.

Resist get-rich-quick schemes that desecrate human dignity, our unalienable right that protects free thought to pursue knowledge and understanding and respect comprehensive sciences. To accept the admonition of Gore’s political will is to go with his flow to pad his pockets and become brain dead fish that feed his fat face at the expense of intelligence and humanity.

What do we learn from Gore’s Warming Change? To transpose a point made by Roger Scruton:

What do we gain, in terms of emotional, spiritual, intellectual, or moral development? Nothing, save anxiety. We should take a lesson from this kind of desecration: in attempting to show us that our human ideals are worthless, it shows itself to be worthless. And when something shows itself to be worthless, it is time to throw it away.

At least Schoenberg died long before his compositional techniques met their inevitable death pronounced by Boulez.

However disciples of deceit march on, our sons are the better men!

maverick muse on July 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM

JiangxiDad on July 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM
heh

Rosebud

maverick muse on July 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM

Al Gore is a member of the Club of Rome, an organization whose goal is to control and transform the world. Controlling people through control of energy is key.

darwin on July 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM

ich bin ein gummibär

Johan Klaus on July 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM

roaring lol

maverick muse on July 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM

Gore is promoting unscientific hysteria.

Which is what the Nazis and Lysenko-ist Soviets did.

The Climate Change dogma is a cult not a science.

(Gore should be working to get his Current TV reporters Laura Ling and Euna Lee released from their North Korean prison sentence instead of diddling with this sham and stupidity.)

profitsbeard on July 7, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Gore’s antipathy to reality and the human condition

maverick muse on July 8, 2009 at 8:36 AM

We never question Gore’s intent, we just question his sanity.

volsense on July 8, 2009 at 8:44 AM

Any “science” that won’t allow dissent, and see it as healthy to the ultimate truths of a theory,or threatens the working ability of those that question that theory, cannot by definition be called scientists.

Jeff from WI on July 8, 2009 at 8:46 AM

And while Rome continues to burn, ponder this little news item: http://www.startribune.com/nation/50216472.html

Goldy1 on July 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Is that because Global Warming like Nazism is based on flawed logic?

chicken thief on July 8, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Typical left battle plan: if you can’t beat us with sound science and ideas, then start slinging mud and bull$#!+ to try to scare us. Sorry, Algore, but we’re calling your bluff on this one.

flutejpl on July 8, 2009 at 9:02 AM

To clarify: I don’t think their science is sound. The sound science is on our side.

Just a reading suggestion: I love the site . They have new articles pretty much daily regarding either new data showing that the earth is cooling or that global warming is a hoax at best.

flutejpl on July 8, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Just one more politician using the American people to get rich. He makes me sick…..One more to take an “E” ticket ride on the guillotine when the people take their power back…………..Be Afraid, ManBearPig, be very afraid…

adamsmith on July 8, 2009 at 9:30 AM

And the Nazis are the global warming extremists

CMonster on July 8, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Sham Fraud Profiteer

marklmail on July 8, 2009 at 9:47 AM

and he’s super, super cereal.

Hening on July 8, 2009 at 10:14 AM

How do you say “jackass” in German?

RobertE on July 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Gore has his Nobel and Oscar to give him absolute moral authority. Why can’t you people just respect your betters?

SKYFOX on July 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Gore the bore wants his billions he stands to make, espousing global warming, and by golly, he’ll do, and say anything to make sure he gets his money!!! He’s a twit.

capejasmine on July 8, 2009 at 10:52 AM

But all those battleships and troop carriers and planes on D-day, think of all the evil Carbon Dioxide they belched into the air, melting the glaciers of neutral Switzerland! And Winston Churchill polluted the air smoking his cigars!

/sarc

No beer at the corner pub…it’s full of Carbon Dixoide! Only lemming-ade and Kool-Aid for Gore!

Steve Z on July 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Gore has his Nobel and Oscar to give him absolute moral authority. Why can’t you people just respect your betters?

SKYFOX on July 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM

LOL Good one. Doesn’t this sum it up? The facts don’t matter, as long as it makes the libs feel good.

marklmail on July 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM

How do you say “jackass” in German?

RobertE on July 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM

AL GORE !

Next Question please.

ColdWarrior57 on July 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Al Gore is talking in an echo chamber, since he won’t allow himself to be debated on the subject. Sadly though, the people he’s talking to are the same ones helping to ram cap and trade down this country’s throat. It’s a.) a money making scheme and b.) a whole new political faction – the green party, which will always donate/vote democrat.

Exit question: Why has T. Boone Pickens all the sudden dumped most all his wind farm plans? What changed in the game? Billionaires aren’t stupid. I knew Pickens was in it for the money. Does he fear Cap and Trade is done?

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Good to see Andrew Sullivan caring about Sarah Palin’s family’s health. Chutzpah!

and

Rahm Emanuel’s other brother (not the foul mouthed agent) is deciding who gets special treatment under Obamacare and who does not. A criteria exists for those who “contribute.” While this is supposedly for organ donors (of course you are dead most of the time you donate organs so perhaps this is for your family) could it also apply to those who “contribute” in other ways? Time will tell.

What could go wrong?

Mr. Joe on July 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM

What does any of that have to do with Al Gore and his remarks?

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM

There may be a very good explanation for why Al Gore has done this – and, why the ToL is attempting to cover it up. I believe it may be based on Gore’s illogical supposition that the post-election debunking of Rachel Maddow’s corollary to Godwin’s Law, likewise resulted in the concomitant debunking of Godwin’s Law itself, thus leaving him free to at least indirectly raise the Nazi specter with regard to anyone who opposes his exaggerated global warming claims and fanciful climate change predictions.

Readers may recall Maddow’s attempt on October 20, 2008, late in the election cycle last fall to turn Godwin’s Law on its ideological head, with her own proposed corollary:

MADDOW: On the Internet machine, there‘s something called “Godwin’s Law.” Godwin’s Law holds that roughly speaking, the longer an online discussion goes on, the more likely that it is that someone is going to compare something to Nazis. The principle is that when you run out of substantive things to say, but you still feel very strongly about something, you embarrass yourself and spoil your own credibility by making a totally over the top, predictable, inappropriate accusation. It’s like Hitler.

I hereby propose a similar adage, not for online discussions but for American politics. I hereby submit, that the longer it’s clear that liberals or Democrats are going to win an election, the longer it‘s clear that liberals and Democrats are winning an argument, the more likely it becomes that someone is going to get called a “commie,” “socialist,” “Bolshevik,” “commie,” “pinko,” “comrade,” “five-year planner.”

She then went on to assert that Obama was of course NOT a communist or a socialist – that instead, he was a tax cutter.

MADDOW: Hints of socialism. With 15 days to go, the best thing they can come up with is Barack Obama is a socialist. He‘s a commie.

Here’s the thing about Godwin’s Law with people invoking Hitler online. And it‘s just as true as the communist accusation in American politics. It is, most of all, an embarrassment to the person making the accusation. No one who’s not an actual Nazi is like a Nazi.

Barack Obama is not a communist. Cutting taxes is not a socialist plot. You’re just embarrassing yourself now.
. . . .

Well, now people are increasingly coming to believe that Obama really is a socialist, thus to that extent, debunking her corollary – though NOT Godwin’s Law.

However, I believe that Al Gore – “brainchild” that he is — may be incorrectly assuming that Godwin’s Law is likewise in disrepute.

The Times of London, however, believes that quite the opposite is true. Godwin’s Law is still valid, and so they are quickly attempting to cover up all evidence of his embarrassing faux pas.

But that action, in itself, is nearly as stupid because it quite clearly violates bromide number one of the Rules of Nixonian Consequences – i.e., “It’s not the crime; it’s the cover-up!

So what may be called for now is new statement, or rhetorical truism, one that would take into account, or at least acknowledge, what seems to be the increasing frequency of Al Gore’s wacky eruptions, in the context of data suggesting that global warming and climate change theories to date, if not outright hokum, are at least riven with irresponsible bloviations coming from that man.

Just as a suggestion, perhaps a “Law of Gorean Inverse Proportion” –- the quantity of emerging scientific data and evidence either contradicting, or minimizing anthropological global warming theory, or alarmist climate change predictions, is inversely proportional to Al Gore’s ability to just shut up and retool.

Trochilus on July 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Trochilus on July 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Nicely done.

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Dear Al Gore,
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.
Sincerely
Winston Churchill.

Was that an attempt, by Al Gore, to compare himself to Winston Churchill??? I’m not going to deny it, I did fall for “the Al Gore is a genius” shtick during the 2000 elections, but these liberal egomaniacs are getting ri-bloody-dicules. Global Liberalism is the #1 threat to this world, they insist on fighting windmills while the real enemies are standing right in front of them, flipping them the finger.

Michelle Dubois on July 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM

World War II was not a debate

Yes it was. A very muscular debate. Or to paraphrase, debate by other means.

I R A Darth Aggie on July 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Exit question: Why has T. Boone Pickens all the sudden dumped most all his wind farm plans? What changed in the game? Billionaires aren’t stupid. I knew Pickens was in it for the money. Does he fear Cap and Trade is done?

Thunderstorm129 on July 8, 2009 at 11:27 AM

It takes alot of oil to make those arms go around like that.

I hope he does sense Cap and Trade is done.

What is the point of all this stuff anyway? It really doesn’t make sense unless there is a great deal of money involved all around. That should be enough I guess but why destroy our country?

What new gadgets can you by in ten years if our country’s economy is tanked by cap and trade. What good is it to have all that money and nothing to buy.

petunia on July 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Trochilus:

He called his opponents Nazis. His opponents are not Nazis. Not a single racist goosestepper in the lot. He Godwin’ed himself.

He loses the debate.

This lefty nonsense about calling leftist bolshevics bolshevics is just the left being embarrassed about people noticing what they are.

Kristopher on July 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Al Gore is so entertaining……Al Gore’s cult isn’t sensational or sexy, it’s kind of nerdy in a junk science sort of way. You know In a Snake oil salesman sort of way. He can’t even make it sexy, if he makes it seem like he is fighting the NaZis. Lets face it the kids who buy into his junk science, probably flunked history as well as earth science LOL! There is nothing he can do, to sex up the global warming hoax, I mean he can’t even count on the weather…..I can keep this up all day.

Dr Evil on July 8, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Let’s face it Al Gore is an underrated genius. He not only invented the internet but fought an uphill battle against thousands of geologists who believe we are in an interstitial temporary warming trend between ice ages. Without one scintilla of scientific proof (and making $100 million in the process) Gore convinced the world that this temporary warming trend is caused by human endeavor and is using this influence to browbeat America to third world status.

Al Gore is far too modest to admit this so I’ll do it for him (speaking of uphill battles)-to save on the burning of fossil fuels, Al Gore HAS INVENTED A CAR THAT NEEDS NO FUEL AT ALL–it’s called the AlGo Downhill.

MaiDee on July 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Why doesn’t the republican party do opposition research? I’ve got to think it would be pretty easy to photograph algore dressed in a bustier frolicking with farm animals on his estate.

peacenprosperity on July 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM

And has anyone seen Tipper lately? I really worry about her living with this psychopath.

peacenprosperity on July 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM

“I mean he can’t even count on the weather.” Dr Evil on July 8, 2009 at 3:55 PM

You mean like for the month of June?

I suppose next you’ll be bringing up suppressed EPA Studies!

Trochilus on July 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Gore is either ignorant or evil.Most definitely likely the latter (to some extent at least-at least he is definitely in it for the bucks and that is a kind of evil). That is, the truth is backwards and he knows it. Fighting the global warming hoax IS akin to fighting Nazi policy. Not the other/Gorish way around. Nazis were SOCIALISTS, Mr. Gore! National Socialist Party, that is! It is the Nazis who would seek to impose their will upon the people or else. And that is what Gore and his ilk including Obummer and Waxman and Pelosi and Reid are all about. Thank goodness none of these American Progressives have the genius level (evil certainly) rhetorical skills of a Hitler (or Jim Jones) who, by the way, introduced his policies very slowly and carefully and often secretly . . . at first. One day you are normal citizen of Germany. An average type. Next thing you know you are filling out paperwork detailing the number of gold fillings retrieved from the victims of the death camps. And the thing of it is, you don`t even consider yourself evil in the slightest in the bargain. Of course Gore does not reach such an evil level as the Nazis, but he IS trying to force a dangerous farce on all Americans and the World. And he got a Nobel Peace Prize for this? I don`t think the fellow who invented dynamite is saying **Dynoomiite! right about now . . . . I feel sorry for him about ***Nk H Carter, too.
**(Getting a little long in the tooth am I.)
***(North Korea Hamas Carter the Kid, that is.)
PS(Love the Simpsons nail gun episode!)

Sherman1864 on July 8, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Take a look at the following image folks.

The great lakes 14k years ago

14k years ago, the great lakes were mostly under an ice sheet more than a mile thick. Only parts of lake michigan and what is now lake erie were not covered by the glacier

9k years ago, half of superior was still covered with a glacier.. not frozen over but a freaking glacier

7k years ago, most of superior was still covered with a glacier and the lakes were not at their current level. The melting ice cap is what got them to where they are today

4k years ago, the great lakes are finally formed.

NOW… lets look

prior to 1492 there was NO industry on the North American continent.

The industrial age began only about 200 years ago.

Until one of these glowballs worming idiots can explain how that happened, then my contention is that they are all frauds who should be in jail with maddoff and other scammers.

bullseye on July 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I think the effects from the “Global Cooling”, Next Ice Age” or whatever BS line the Chicken Littles used in the 70s will counteract the “Global Warming” these frauds are pushing this time.

Thirty years ago next Sunday, I left a small town in central KS and headed to basic training in San Antonio. The high temp the day I left KS was 105 deg. When I arrived in San Antonio, the high temp was 98 deg. The forecast hi temps for both on Sunday are 97 deg.

As the information I’ve provided is factual anecdotal data, my example contains less erroneous information that Algore’s movie. Debate your assertations Mr. Gore. The problem is you and the chicken little fear the truth. Or answer this, where’s the global cooling your type threatened thirty years ago?

jack herman on July 8, 2009 at 10:33 PM

If you want to know why Gore wants this cap and trade legislation so badly, just follow the money. He is heavily invested in a carbon trading company that stands to make millions.

Play on the publics fears, feed them false information and become very rich in the process. What a scam!!!!

generouse on July 9, 2009 at 8:28 AM

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