AverageJoe on July 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Considering that Chavez was out in front, all over television, even as Zelaya was still airborne on his way to Costa Rica…yeah, Chavez was a major player long before Zelaya was introduced to the Honduran army and stripped of his “presidency” while still in his jammies.

Good catch, by the way.

Here

I mean really… who do these peasants think they are? /sarc

complaint judges = compliant judges

By the way, Adolf Hitler was democratically elected as Chancellor of Germany…

Steve Z on July 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM

And then, after appointing complaint judges, and swaying the population with promises and hopes of a better, greater, peaceful and new modern 20th Century Germany…he pushed through the Nuremberg Laws of 1935…and then went about selectively replacing members of government who were not of his liking.

The people? Accepted all of it. After all, it was the Jews and auslander who were the root of Germany’s problems, and Hitler was such a nice guy, loved children, and was making Germany a modern nation…and he posed no threat to any “real” Germans…new peoples cars (the VW Bug) and new fast highways, new improved infrastructure, building new high speed German rail, building modern airports, building huge housing projects for German workers, and suborning German industry with sets of laws controlling what they produced, when they produced it and how much they charged the government for products versus how much they charged non-government entities…and a whole bunch more that is starting to sound familiar of late.

And that democratic election? Wasn’t so democratic to begin with, but was the last national election held in Germany until the end of the Occupation in 1948-49.

Hitler set himself up to the German people by 1939-39 as too big to fail…or allow to fail.

“America supports now the restoration of the democratically elected president of Honduras, even though he has strongly opposed American policies,” Obama said.

“We do so not because we agree with him. We do so because we respect the universal principle that people should choose their own leaders, whether they are leaders we agree with or not,” he said in a speech in Russia.

Why is it that “Constitutional Law Professor” B. Hussein Obama supports a foreign President who flouts his country’s Constitution? Is there a pattern here?

By the way, Adolf Hitler was democratically elected as Chancellor of Germany…

Obama and Hillary welcoming Zelaya in Washington reminds me eerily of Ayatollah Khomeini being harbored in France by the government of Valery Giscard d’Estaing, and we all know where THAT led. Except maybe our President doesn’t know. He was only in high school at the time.

McCain on Twitter? You don’t mean his daughter?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on July 7, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Nope. It’s the Senator.

Loxodonta on July 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Maybe there are adults on Twitter. His daughter is a twit.

Jim DeMint for President, 2012.

AZCoyote on July 7, 2009 at 7:21 PM

I would support him 100%, and of the candidates I can think of, is easily my favorite.

Just because the military does the correct thing, directed by the legislature, doesn’t mean the Honduran president wasn’t in the wrong.

marybel on July 7, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Violating the constitution doesn’t necesarilly mean that you are wrong????

Does anybody know if the Honduran Army regularly enforce domestic law?

darktood on July 8, 2009 at 3:37 AM

No, not routinely…there was a crime sweep a few years ago, “Operation Thunder” where the Honduran national Police and the Honduran Army joined forces to go after private armies and large crime families and companies.

But, for the most part, the Army does not engage in domestic police operations. This is also a result of major Constitutional changes brought about back in 1982 to try to prevent Honduras from being another tinpot dictatorship. Limits on presidential terms (one) and limits on who controls the Army (not the President), et al..

Zelaya “fired” the head of the Honduran Armed Forces for not releasing referendum ballots to Zelaya supporters (the Army having the duty to distribute and collect election materials) just prior to the Honduran Congress, acting under a ruling of the Honduran Supreme Court, called the Army to arrest Zelaya, and convey him to another country, as he was no longer (under the Constitution) a Honduran citizen.

But, in general, since 1982, Honduras works to maintain a distinct separation of powers and duties of the armed forces from those of the national police force.

STOP THE PRESSES!

Maybe we can get Costa Rica to mediate in the US Congress.

patrick neid on July 7, 2009 at 10:42 PM

By starting my comment above with “unfortunately”, I didn’t mean to infer disagreement.

I think the suggestion of a fact finding mission would be a great idea for Repubs.

patrick neid on July 7, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Unfortunately, my guess is that DeMint’s comments will receive no mention from our press. It would be nice if they could draw some attention to the plight of Honduras. Maybe some prominent Republicans could travel there on a fact finding mission of their own. And perhaps Fox News could see fit to reassign some of their useless Jacko reporters to cover the trip.

Hillary Clinton refused to meet with a delegation from the Micheletti interim government, which created even more visibility to what has been a heavy-handed response from Barack Obama and his administration towards what would have been an internal matter for Honduras had they not expelled Zeleya.

What an outrageous slight by Clinton and the State Dept.
It’s just not believable. They have the exact same facts as the Senators in the videos. In fact Clinton openly admitted they were involved for weeks through our embassy in Honduras. Something must have happened, behind closed doors, to elicit this behaviour/position.

On the positive side at least some Repubs are stepping up. I think the suggestion of a fact finding mission would be a great idea for Repubs.

Honduras is now being compelled to violate their own Constitution, established to prevent Zelaya’s and others from promulgating continuismo – the tendency of heads of state to extend their rule indefinitely – and it has been the lifeblood of Latin American dictatorships for well over a century.

The Obama Administration, in condemning Honduras is throwing the excrement of continuismo in the faces of Honduras, and all of Latin America, the world, in fact, and laughing about it.

I would hope Honduras sticks to their Constitutional system of law and checks and balances…sort of what we should be doing here at home.

right2bright on July 7, 2009 at 6:26 PM

good one!

Ed, you really aught to watch DeMint’s remarks on YouTube. He outlines the history of this issue and responds to your criticism of how Honduras handled the matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjiKvUJXpm8

FloatingRock on July 7, 2009 at 7:44 PM

That was awesome! DeMint takes no prisoners.

I am hopeful that as President Obama grows in office, he will eventually turn away from despots like Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, and Zelaya, and give the United States’ full-throated support to the people of any country who are fighting for the same values we cherish and defend in America. The people fighting for freedom around the world, in Iran and Honduras, should never have to wonder which side America will choose between freedom and tyranny….

Look at that! Hoping that O will eventually turn away from despots!

FloatingRock on July 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM

DeMint is a rock. Not a FloatingRock, but a rock, nonetheless. Thanks for the transcription.

FloatingRock on July 7, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Perhaps, but I’m guessing reinstatement is out of the question and that Zelaya realizes that. The tables have now turned, Zelaya has more to lose than public office (his fortune and freedom, if he returns and is prosecuted)and his best bargaining chip has a 6-month life and counting.

Meanwhile back in the U.S., Republicans are finally articulating facts that reveal Obama’s position for the left-wing lunacy that it was. Time is not on Zelaya’s side.