Zelaya landing aborted, to try again today?

posted at 8:55 am on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Latin American crisis in Honduras escalated yesterday as deposed president Manuel Zelaya attempted to force his way back into the country, despite the Honduran government warning to stay out.   The military blocked runways, forcing Zelaya to fly to Managua, Nicaragua instead.  Zelaya’s supporter showed in force at the airport and clashed with the military, leaving one dead and 30 injured:

In a high-stakes standoff that played out in the skies over Honduras, the airplane carrying ousted president Manuel Zelaya was forced to circle the nation’s main airport twice before flying away Sunday evening after coup leaders who deposed Zelaya blocked his landing with troops on the runway.

The turn-back of Zelaya’s white jet left thousands of his supporters shouting in disappointment and anger. Minutes earlier, security forces fired tear gas and bullets at the crowd to keep demonstrators away from the airport, which was surrounded by soldiers and military vehicles.

The Red Cross said people 30 people were wounded in the melee, but there were conflicting reports about fatalities. An Associated Press photographer reported that one man was shot in the head.

Why not let him land?  Apparently, the military and the new government worried about making an arrest on the tarmac with Zelaya’s traveling companion, U.N. General Assembly President Miguel D’Escoto Brockmann, and a second plane carrying the the presidents of Argentina, Ecuador, Paraguay, and the Secretary-General of the OAS.  A show of military force aimed at foreign heads of state would be a cassus belli, a handy excuse for an invasion by foreign troops.  Unfortunately, the decision on that strategy shut down air traffic across Honduras.

Rumors had Nicaraguan troops approaching the border, presumably in an attempt to reinstall Zelaya by force.  Later in the day, though, Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega denied it, and Roberto Micheletti acknowledged that only a few troops “without their commanders” had drifted towards the border.  Micheletti warned Nicaragua and other nations not to interfere with what Micheletti deemed an internal matter, or the interference would produce “bloodshed.”

Many people may not have known that Zelaya’s flight started from Washington, where he apparently has set up his office in exile.  White House officials told the Washington Post that they expect him to return to Washington after the aborted attempt to return to Honduras.  However, Zelaya says he’ll try landing in Honduras again instead, perhaps as early as today.  Micheletti said that they would allow Zelaya to land when the former president was ready to turn himself into authorities “quietly”, and not before then.  It looks like we’ll see another standoff soon, and more demonstrations by Zelaya supporters at the airport.

The Right Scoop has photos of the protests, including one graphic pic of the protester allegedly shot by the military or the police in the head.


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Obama is either insane, or bought and paid for.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM

He’ll have us unilaterally disarmed before he’s through. But, enough of that. Michael Jackson’s funeral is the big news.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

They don’t have fighter jets? There is a real quick way to settle him coming back into the country.

Dr Evil on July 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 11:59

AM

What really frosted me at the time, too, was that Nancy Pelosi was adamantly blocking Bush’s attempts at a trade agreement with Colombia, which would have been beneficial to the US as well as Colombia and would have supported Colombian efforts to defeat the subversion of Venezuela.

As far as Hillary is concerned, she shares a lot of Obama’s Leftist political ideology though her means are probably not as radical.

onlineanalyst on July 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

09:35am
Bloqueo. Un avión bloquea la pista de aterrizaje del aeropuerto internacional Toncontín de Tegucigalpa. El gobierno ordenó que se impida tocar tierra o sobrevolar la zona sin previa autorización.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/

There’s a plane sitting on the runway at Toncontin to prevent any planes from landing in Tegucigalpa.

Furthermore, the Airport is closed for 48 hours.

This was posted to El Heraldo about 11:35am EST.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM

The media are intent to promote bread and circuses while our lives and freedoms are under assault.

onlineanalyst on July 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM

onlineanalyst on July 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Defeat of the US-Colombia free trade deal was one of the “guarantees” that were given to the FARC at the Quito meeting(s). Don’t be surprised if Madame Speakers Office didn’t have a representative there to chat with the FARC.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

The only kind of abortion Obama is against.

Jim Treacher on July 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Don’t be surprised if Madame Speakers Office didn’t have a representative there to chat with the FARC.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Name?

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Here’s what the UN is saying:

UN chief calls for constitutional order in Honduras

GENEVA (AFP) — UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called Monday on the Organization of American States to work to restore constitutional order in Honduras, where the president has been blocked from returning after a coup.

By “work to restore constitutional order” they mean “disregard the constitutional order”.

What do they propose should be done with the Honduran Congress and Honduran Supreme Court if Zelaya is to be reinstalled?

Shouldn’t the UN and OAS clairfy who it is they believe has the authority to determine what is constitutional in Honduras since they clearly don’t believe the congress and supreme court has the authority?

If UN/OAS succeeded in reinstalling Zelaya and Zelaya immediately disbands the congress, court and constitution, the UN and OAS wouldn’t have a problem with that, and at the very least, the majority of the 33 OAS members would vote to recognize the Zelaya dictatorship as legitimate.

Buddahpundit on July 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Elduende, please keep us posted. Your translations expose Obama for who he is. These should be posted on youtube and go viral. Maybe give the info to Stephen Crowder and let him produce one of his great youtube masterpieces with it.

Obama must be dragged out into the light of day. Your translations of Chavez and Zelaya are dynamite.

Keep up the great work.

BTW – By what authority does Obama give Zelaya Wahsington D.C., and is he giving them our airplanes to fly in and is our military going to intervene? Where is ANY Republican Congressman/woman?

tigerlily on July 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

tigerlily on July 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Thanks. I’ll try to keep up updates and anything I see of significance. Fausta has actually been doing yeoman’s work in this crisis. check her out http://faustasblog.com/

As far as legal authority for Zelaya staging out of DC, its probably because the OAS is headquartered there and they have a treaty allowing for the comings and goings. Basically they enjoy a type of pseudo-soverignty like an embassy or the UN.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM

By “work to restore constitutional order” they mean “disregard the constitutional order”.

Buddahpundit on July 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Words are wonderful things aren’t they?

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:33 PM

tigerlily on July 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Zelaya is using a plane owned by PDVSA the Venezuelan Oil Company flown by Venezuelan Air Force under the banner of the ALBA (which is a Socialist Latin AMerican Security and Economic Alliance led by Chavez). Not ours.

AT this point our military won’t intervene. No reason to.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

9:00 AM SoCal. All the cable news channels are talking about Michael Jackson. Nine freakin days after his death.

What about Cap and Trade?

What’s going on with Socialized medicine?

Is Nicaraqua moving their troops?

What is Chavez saying?

What’s dimwit doing in Russia.

MICHAEL FREAKIN JACKSON????? GEEEZ

Ernest on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM

No name. an educated guess.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Ernest on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Well, the dude filling in for Rush is ploughing the same old ground on porkulus and hasn’t said anything about Honduras or Russia so far.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Well, the dude filling in for Rush is ploughing the same old ground on porkulus and hasn’t said anything about Honduras or Russia so far.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 PM

True, but at the top of the program it was one of the three or four subjects he said he was going to talk about.

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Ernest on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

They are just giving “the people” what they want. Sad, isn’t it?

OldEnglish on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Elvin Ernesto Santos

Candidato. El presidenciable liberal Elvin Santos pidió a la comunidad internacional el recurso del diálogo para solventar la crisis en Honduras.

Elvin Santos calling for “dialogue” in the Honduran crisis.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/

Declaraciones. Santos dijo a CNN que estaría de acuerdo con que se adelanten las elecciones en Honduras.

Elvin Santos telling CNN (Spanish language version) that he would be amenable to early elections in Honduras.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/

Elvin Santos is another player in this little drama that needs watching. He’s running for the presidency in the coming November elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvin_Santos

Where his loyalties stand are an open question. He was Zelaya’s VP until last winter when he resigned in order to gear up for the run at the presidency.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Ernest on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I was out with friends last night and mentioned cap and trade. Their response: “What is cap and trade?”

I couldn’t believe it. I then had to explain everything to them and their reponse was that the reason they knew nothing about it was that the media was covering MJ 24/7. And they were mad about it. And at least one of them voted for Obama.

We need to get this information out! They also had no idea about Honduras or Iran!

Dr. Conservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Ernest on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Michael Jackson is still dead.

If there is any change in his condition then, perhaps, maybe, he’ll be entitled to 24/7 all week all the time news coverage.

The vacuousness of the public is appalling…but, understandable…they voted for Obama.

coldwarrior on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Dr. Conservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Wow! Unbelievable!

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Sadly, completely believable.

coldwarrior on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Media malpractice will be the death of us all, or the death of our liberty at the minimum.

With Cap and Tax heading for a Senate showdown, and the Honduran republic teetering on a knife’s edge and in the sights of dictatorial leftist thugs, the media gives us wall-to-wall 24/7 unprecedented coverage of the media-driven aftermath of the death of an entertainer that happened over a week ago.

It is beyond travesty.

hillbillyjim on July 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Where his loyalties stand are an open question. He was Zelaya’s VP until last winter when he resigned in order to gear up for the run at the presidency.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Was he supportive of Zelaya’s turn to the left? I suppose he had to at least give it lip service.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

La caída de Zelaya- sostiene el analista- genera mucha crispación y mucha angustia entre los presidente de los países de la Alba, donde hay ejércitos y temen que lo ocurrido en Honduras puede causar un efecto dominó.

*Además: “Estamos dispuestos a pagar el precio del aislamiento político y diplomático con tal de que Honduras siga siendo una tierra de paz y libertad”.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/Especiales/Honduras%20en%20contra%20de%20la%20ilegalidad%20del%2024%20de%20junio%20de%202009/Ediciones/2009/07/06/Noticias/Paises-de-la-Alba-temen-un-efecto-domino
TRANSLATION:
The Fall of Zelaya, the Analyst says, causes much concern and anguish among the (leftist) presidents of the ALBA countries, because they worry about the possible reaction of their own armies and a domino type effect occuring.

Furthermore, we are willing to pay the price of political and diplomatic isolation if it means that Honduras remains a land of peace and liberty

TRANSLATION 2:
It means what I said earlier about the leftists being worried because the Honduran’s have stopped Chavez cold. Their whole enterprise was predicated on the assumption that they could take and consolidate power on the sly. The impunity has stopped and now Obama’s buddies are worried about a reverse domino theory taking hold, threatening them all.

I know that Bolivia is about to pop too. Evo Morales is in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Yep, you called it. There was a lot more going on than most of us knew. That’s why you are supplying an invaluable service.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I’ll echo what a capella said.

This is what I absolutely love about the web. When the right citizen-journalist with the right knowledge fills that news niche at the right moment, then the web cannot be beat for real news.

Thanks for doing this for us.

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

was out with friends last night and mentioned cap and trade. Their response: “What is cap and trade?”

I couldn’t believe it. I then had to explain everything to them and their reponse was that the reason they knew nothing about it was that the media was covering MJ 24/7. And they were mad about it. And at least one of them voted for Obama.

We need to get this information out! They also had no idea about Honduras or Iran!

Dr. Conservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

You were probably talking to sheeple, who don’t know that the wolf is in the White House. Uncle Barry, what big teeth you have!

Glad you could make a difference. I also talked to somebody yesterday about the hoax of global warming, and he seemed intrigued.

Steve Z on July 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Democracy Derailed in Honduras
“The US media have falsely presented Zelaya’s moves as a power grab, an effort to end term limits to allow him to run for re-election. But the nonbinding referendum Zelaya was pushing–which prompted the coup–asked citizens only if there should be a vote on “whether to hold a Constituent National Assembly that will approve a new political Constitution.” In other words, Hondurans weren’t being asked to vote on term limits or even on revising the Constitution.” They want to amend their constitution just like the US has since its founding.

The actual ballot question was to be: “Do you agree that, during the general elections of November 2009 there should be a fourth ballot to decide whether to hold a Constituent National Assembly that will approve a new political constitution?

Bill Blizzard on July 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Zelaya’s flight started from Washington, where he apparently has set up his office in exile.

Insanity

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 1:43 PM

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Here’s one of those important rules of thumb…if he lasted that long as Zelaya’s VP, Chavez must have approved of him.

That’s the thing he obviously served with Zelaya and knows what has been going on with Chavez. He felt comfortable enough to prepare a run for the top spot last winter when it was obvious the term limited Zelaya was to have stepped down next January.

Something must have motivated Chavez to push Zelaya to raise the constitutional reform issue now. Did Chavez decide the lame duck Zelaya had nothing to lose or did something raise his hackles regarding Santo’s reliability should he win in Novemeber.

In my book, for now, and irrespective of his positions today, Santos is tainted by virtue of his association with Zelaya and Chavez. Its the safe play. The Hondurans would be dumb to go through all this trouble to then cede the country to Zelaya lite.

Trust him about as far as you can throw him. I’m sure all sides are scrambling to figure this out too.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

They want to amend their constitution just like the US has since its founding.

Hmm…I don’t recall us effecting amendments using ballots printed in Venezuela.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Bill Blizzard on July 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

You missed this from Octavio Sánchez, lawyer, former presidential adviser (2002-05) and minister of culture (2005-06) of the Republic of Honduras.:

A ‘coup’ in Honduras? Nonsense.

These are the facts: On June 26, President Zelaya issued a decree ordering all government employees to take part in the “Public Opinion Poll to convene a National Constitutional Assembly.” In doing so, Zelaya triggered a constitutional provision that automatically removed him from office.

Constitutional assemblies are convened to write new constitutions. When Zelaya published that decree to initiate an “opinion poll” about the possibility of convening a national assembly, he contravened the unchangeable articles of the Constitution that deal with the prohibition of reelecting a president and of extending his term. His actions showed intent.

Our Constitution takes such intent seriously. According to Article 239: “No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform [emphasis added], as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.”

Notice that the article speaks about intent and that it also says “immediately” – as in “instant,” as in “no trial required,” as in “no impeachment needed.”

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Why don’t we all go park our cars on the runway at Andrews AFB?

Then Obammy can set up his own office-in-exile: in Caracas.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

:-)

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Bill Blizzard on July 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

That’s fine but the Honduran Constitution is explicit that any President that even suggests, let alone, agitates for a Constitutional reform of term limits has immediately forfeit his seat as President and cannot run for re-election for at least 10 years.

If you can come up with legal authority that countermands that clause in the Honduran Constitution please share it with all of us.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

You know I think the absolutely worse thing about the Left is their lying. It is the root of all their evil deeds.

They know they cannot get into power if they tell the truth about who they are, what they think and what their intentions are.

They have no desire to get out the facts or to present them objectively. The ends always justifies any means. (Yes, straight from Alinsky, whether they realize it or not).

Not to say some of the R’s don’t do that as well, but the Left is just absolutely twisted about truth, from the big names to the minions on the web.

It’s certainly appropriate that Alinsky dedicated Rules For Radicals to Lucifer, whom Jesus called a liar and the father of lies.

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I don’t think he’s interested in the facts. He was just throwing out a propaganda lie in the hopes that it would stick.

INC on July 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM

And, on cue, a troll quotes the left-wing hate rag “the Nation.”

Typical. I guess that “narconews” was too obvious…

PimFortuynsGhost on July 6, 2009 at 2:03 PM

I know that Bolivia is about to pop too. Evo Morales is in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Wow, great news! In fact it’s almost too good to contemplate – don’t want to jinx anything!

RD on July 6, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Members of Congress concerned about Zelaya’s possible ties to drug traffic.

Meanwhile, five members of the U.S. Congress, including three from Florida, want to know if the Drug Enforcement Administration has evidence that connects ex-President Mel Zelaya to drug trafficking. In a letter to President Barack Obama, Florida Congressmen Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Connie Mack, joined by California’s Dana Rochbacher and Michigan’s Thad McCotter, referred to assertions from Honduran Foreign Minister Enrique Ortez that the DEA possessed such evidence. The letter concluded that the Administration should not press for the reinstatement of Mr. Zelaya if our law enforcement agencies have evidence that he is involved in drug traffic and asked the President for a direct response.
I don’t know if this was posted yet, sorry if it was. If Zelaya is successfully reinstated as President all this goes away.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I know that Bolivia is about to pop too. Evo Morales is in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Wow, great news! In fact it’s almost too good to contemplate – don’t want to jinx anything!

RD on July 6, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Absolutely. I’m surprised that the citizens in Santa Cruz haven’t pushed harder for independence. But, if they can somehow overthrow the cokehead in charge, that would be great.

PimFortuynsGhost on July 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM

The Honduran Government’s endgame according to one respected Honduran legal analyst.

Los escenarios posibles, según el analista

* Los efectos de la suspensión de la OEA

Honduras sufrirá un aislamiento diplomático y económico que los hondureños debemos estar dispuestos a asimilar y soportar. Lo que pasó es menos perjudicial que una dictadura.

* Debe mantenerse una ofensiva diplomática

Honduras debe continuar dando a conocer su verdad en el mundo y construir nuevas alianzas que permitan al gobierno de transición operar más o menos con normalidad.

* Garantizar suministro de combustibles

La labor del nuevo gobierno es asegurar el suministro del combustible y los servicios básicos (agua, luz y teléfono). Si se logra esto, habrá estabilidad hasta llegar a las elecciones generales.

* “Mel” regresaría solo por la fuerza

De la única manera que Manuel Zelaya Rosales puede regresar al ejercicio del Poder Ejecutivo en Honduras es mediante una fuerza internacional, que es muy poco probable que se produzca.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/Especiales/Honduras%20en%20contra%20de%20la%20ilegalidad%20del%2024%20de%20junio%20de%202009/Ediciones/2009/07/06/Noticias/Paises-de-la-Alba-temen-un-efecto-domino

TRANSLATION:

Possible Scenarios according to the analyst

* The effects of the OAS “suspension”

Honduras will suffer economic and diplomatic isolation that Hondurans should be willing to absorb and withstand. A suspension by the OAS and diplomatic isolation is preferable to a dictatorship.

* The Honduran government must maintain its diplomatic offensive

Honduras should continue to get out the word and make known the truth of what has happened. They need to build new partnerships to enable the transitional government to operate as normally as possible.

* Ensure the fuel supply

The new government needs to ensure the supply of fuel and basic services (water, electricity and telephone). If the government can keep these running then it will guarantee enough stability to last until the general election (in November or maybe sooner).

* “Mel” would return only by force

The only way for Manuel Zelaya Rosales to return to the presidency of Honduras is through the use of force and a foreign military attack is very unlikely.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM

It means what I said earlier about the leftists being worried because the Honduran’s have stopped Chavez cold. Their whole enterprise was predicated on the assumption that they could take and consolidate power on the sly. The impunity has stopped and now Obama’s buddies are worried about a reverse domino theory taking hold, threatening them all.

I know that Bolivia is about to pop too. Evo Morales is in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Let’s hope that piece of dog crap Obama gets the message loud and clear as well. If he wants to run this place like his personal fiefdom, anything goes in reverse as well.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM

and a foreign military attack is very unlikely.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM

why? Or at the very least a UN and US and regional sponsored embargo that would have real consequences.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I know that Bolivia is about to pop too. Evo Morales is in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I’d love to see Central and South America throw off the yoke of Tyranny during my lifetime, preferably much sooner. I asked a leftist acquaintance a few weeks ago, “wouldn’t it be cool if there was a modern highway all the way to the southern most tip of South America?

His response, “They’d have to cut down rain forest.” Well, yeah, but only a little and it would improve their lives and prosperity while giving American’s and Canadians new travel opportunities. Think of all the tourist dollars the RVers would bring, let alone the transportation of goods.

Of course, crime would have to be brought under control first, too, at least through the corridor.

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

The letter concluded that the Administration should not press for the reinstatement of Mr. Zelaya if our law enforcement agencies have evidence that he is involved in drug traffic and asked the President for a direct response.
I don’t know if this was posted yet, sorry if it was. If Zelaya is successfully reinstated as President all this goes away.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Peel that onion. If true, then Elvin Santos had to also have been aware of the dope smuggling. Be kind of awkward for him right now, but I’m sure Obama will ignore the request for dEA information.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Members of Congress concerned about Zelaya’s possible ties to drug traffic.

Meanwhile, five members of the U.S. Congress, including three from Florida, want to know if the Drug Enforcement Administration has evidence that connects ex-President Mel Zelaya to drug trafficking. In a letter to President Barack Obama, Florida Congressmen Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Connie Mack, joined by California’s Dana Rochbacher and Michigan’s Thad McCotter, referred to assertions from Honduran Foreign Minister Enrique Ortez that the DEA possessed such evidence. The letter concluded that the Administration should not press for the reinstatement of Mr. Zelaya if our law enforcement agencies have evidence that he is involved in drug traffic and asked the President for a direct response.
I don’t know if this was posted yet, sorry if it was. If Zelaya is successfully reinstated as President all this goes away.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

This is precisely the kind of stuff that if made public and widely disseminated enough will force Obama to change course, just like on Iran.

It would be a wonderful irony if after all these years of plotting, the American left takes power at a time when lefty regimes around the world are succumbing one by one. I hope and pray that the world begins to stand up to Obama, just as his own citizens do.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Peel that onion
a capella on July 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM

The democrats don’t want the onion peeled, it is mostly the democrats standing in the way of CAFTA. I don’t know how deep the drug connection goes but a lot of people don’t want to find out. We also have agents whose lives are on the line and we can’t afford to lose them.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:32 PM

PimFortuynsGhost on July 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM

A few weeks ago there were some odd reports of foreign mercenaries in Santa Clara. Don’t underestimate the draw of secession in Boliva led by Santa Clara.

but just as importantly is that Chavez has stopped his subsidies and…

Bolivia’s Gas Exports Plunge 25.6 Percent

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=338294&CategoryId=14919

Add to that Morale’s threat to nationalize the gas industry outright and the restive Santa Clara as well as December’s election and things could get interesting.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:32 PM

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

That was what that legal analyst writing in Honduras was saying this morning.

I still think Chavez has to try fomenting something, he can’t crawl out of this with an obvious loss or his prestige at home as well as in Latam is in more trouble than he wants to absorb.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I don’t know if they’ll get rid of tyranny or corruption or crime but the left is going to go down. Their power is built on lies and force. Its a house of cards. they like Obama will go down.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:37 PM

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Aargh. Santa Clara, not Santa Cruz.

Thanks for the info–much appreciated.

PimFortuynsGhost on July 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:32 PM

I was referring more to the info here.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

If he was Zelaya’s VP, I doubt his hands are clean on the dope issue, regardless of how he is presently posturing.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM

11:19am
Amenazas. Dirigentes populares amenazan con tomas de carreteras, bloqueo de transporte de combustible y mercaderías, y un posible cierre de fronteras, si no se restituye al ex presidente Manuel Zelaya.

TRANSLATION:
Threats. Zelaya supporters are threatening to disrupt highways, block transport of fuel and merchandise (commerce), and possibly close the border, if Zelaya is not reinstated.

11:29am
Por la paz y la democracia. La Unión Cívica Democrática anuncio manifestaciones pacíficas en todas las plazas centrales de las ciudades de Honduras, mañana martes 7 de julio a partir de las 10:00 AM

TRANSLATION:
For peace and Democracy. The Democratic Civic Union (a pro Government anti Zelaya umbrella group )has announced peaceful protests in all the central plazas of all the cities in the nation of Honduras, tommorow, tuesday, June 7 starting at 10 am Tegucigalpa time (12pm EST)

12:17pm
Inocentes. El comisionado nacional de los derechos humanos Ramón Custodio dijo que no fueron los militares quienes dispararon al joven que murió ayer en Tonctontín.

TRANSLATION:
Innocent. The National Human Rights commisioner Ramon Custodio said that the military was not responsible for shooting and killing the youth that died yesterday at Toncontin (Tegucigalpa airport)

http://www.elheraldo.hn/Secciones-Principales/Inicio

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM

I’m not watching it, but based on their web site it seems that Fox News is now reporting on a car chase. Great work, Fox! /s

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM

LOL! They have the attention span of an ADD riddled child. Good grief we’re in trouble.

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 2:59 PM

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Maybe we should arrest Zelaya on Drug Trafficking charges?

Dr. Conservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

At this point, I don’t know who’s more deserving of a serious tail-kicking:

The Corrupt congressmen and senators that pass this BS… or the Media that enables this kind of BS to continue?

Chaz706 on July 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM

That the President of the United States would support Zelaya’s attempt to become a dictator is at once shocking and morally criminal. Their constitution states that the president can only serve one term, the supreme court of Honduras upheld the Honduran constitution. Zelaya refused to leave office so the military removed him. All legal, no coup, why is our media and government blind to the fact that Honduras is following their legal constitution?

Mr A on July 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Chaz706 on July 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM
As long as Obama and Chavez are willing to support and provide cover for Zelaya there won’t be any arrest. Besides the charges have to be proven and no one seems to be trying to prove them. Obama had the chance to distance himself from Chavez, instead he sided with him and the Castro brothers. At least the Castro brothers are pretty well marginalized.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM

We know two things,Michael be dead and his brain is not with him,it is going to be sliced and diced to see if he was a junkie. Jesus so much ink over another dead rich famous looser junkie,everybody around the kid nothing while he commited slow sucide,all they wanted was the kids cash.WHILE THE WORLD SIMMERS
When michael played the Scarecroe in the Wiz it must have been pre ordained,no brain,too weird.

Col.John Wm. Reed on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

WHAT WAS ON RAUL REYES’ LAPTOP? WHY WAS OBAMA MENTIONED? WHEN WILL THE TRUTH BE SET FREE? HAS THE OBAMA ADMIN ALREADY DESTROYED THE DATA? WHY DID THE US EMBASSY TRY TO CONTACT FARC?

James on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

More background on ex-Pres Zelaya imposing his version of the Fairness Doctrine:

BBC: Honduras TV gets government order
http://bit.ly/13U2CW

This is a growing trend in Latin America. The Left forgets it was under these “terrible” media rules that they somehow got their message out and elected.

sjramos on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Meanwhile…Hillary Clinton, our wonderful SecState, will be meeting with Zelaya in Washington this week.

Giving a thug legitimacy is NOT the way to run foreign policy.

No doubt about it, the Obama Adminsitration will stop at nothing to make sure Zelaya gets to force his way back into Honduras and we will recognize Zelaya as the sole legitimate “leader” of Honduras.

coldwarrior on July 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM

According to the Honduras Abandoned blog:

20 Armed Nicaraguans Detained at Protest Conclusion, Claims Military Officer

unconfirmed… but fully plausible. I have read in other places that pro-Zelaya marchers are usually foreigners or “paid” protesters. Its obvious that this was a stunt to provoke a confrontation. They are lucky that the military did not bite at the provocation. Just compare the actions of this “peaceful” military and the Revolutionary Guard in Iran with their protesters.

AverageJoe on July 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Obama mentioned in captured FARC email from March 2008.

Message is dated February 28, 2008 from Reyes to the FARC Secretariat. The message relates a recent conversation that took place at a leftist conference between an official of Ecuadoran President Correa and individuals confident enough to speak for the Obama campaign.

Here is the last paragraph of the message:

Los gringos, pidieron cita con el ministro para solicitarle nos comunicara su interés en conversar varios temas. Dicen que el nuevo presidente de su país será Obama y que ellos están interesados en sus compatriotas. Obama no apoyará plan Colombia ni firma del TLC. Aquí respondimos que nos interesan las relaciones con todos los gobiernos en igualdad de condiciones y que en el caso de Estados Unidos, se requiere de un pronunciamiento público expresando su interés en conversar con las FARC dada su eterna guerra contra nosotros.

Translation:

The gringos asked for an appointment with the minister to request that he communicate to us their interest in discussing several topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in their countrymen. Obama will not support either Plan Colombia or the free trade agreement [with Colombia.] We have responded that we are interested in relations with any government under the same conditions, and in the case of the United States, this would require a public statement expressing interest in talking with the FARC, given their eternal war against us.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1980316/posts

http://www.marthacolmenares.com/2008/03/03/hasta-obama-sale-a-relucir-en-cartas-encontradas-a-reyes/

MARCH 25, 2008.A FARC Fan’s Notes http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120640555842961083.html

Pelosi in violation of the Logan Act conducting shadow foreign policy.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/07/020939.php

More info on captured documents (in spanish)
http://www.semana.com/wf_InfoArticulo.aspx?idArt=110107

JUNE 22, 2009.The FARC’s Ecuadorean Friends It’s time to reaffirm the U.S. commitment to Colombia. By MARY ANASTASIA O’GRADY

Previously undisclosed documents, fruits of the Colombian military’s raid on a Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (a.k.a. FARC) camp in Ecuador in 2008, came into my hands last week.

The FARC’s second in command, Raúl Reyes, was killed in that raid. But he left behind laptop computers containing correspondence detailing a cozy relationship not only with Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez but also — the fresh documents reveal — with the government of Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa.

Someone should tell the White House. Ten days ago, President Obama called Mr. Correa to, according to a spokesman, “congratulate him on his recent re-election.” Mr. Obama also wanted to “express his desire to deepen our bilateral relationship and to maintain an ongoing dialogue that can ensure a productive relationship based on mutual respect.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562833064735787.html

elduende on July 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM

From IBD:

Hugo’s Hands Are All Over Honduras

The U.S. put on a halo of global citizenship in joining the OAS to condemn Honduras for its “coup.” But it was an ill-advised move that will undercut American interests and democracy. Advantage: Hugo Chavez.

Never has the U.S. bent over so far backwards to accommodate a tyrant.

INC on July 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM

With Obama’s blessing, the OAS voted to accept the dictator Castro who stole power in a coup, and they vote out Honduras that was only following the law to protect itself?

Obama is evil.

There is no other way to explain this.

scotash on July 7, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Shoot the aircraft down.
Problem solved.

Obama can pound sand.

old trooper2 on July 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Next area of conflict where a vote is used to try to extend a “dear leader’s” reign: Philippines, which just recently decided to use for 2010 the Smartmatic voting system used to extend Chavez’ reign in 2004 in spite of exit polls that showed him losing in a landslide.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=482018&publicationSubCategoryId=64

This is definitely a pattern.

justincase on July 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Would the Marine Commandant obey an order to fly Zelaya into Honduras? Howsabout occupy Honduras to reinstall and protect him? Just wonderin.

Akzed on July 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM

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