Since the Marxist coup kicked-off here last January 21, Obama has been trampling all over our nation’s Constitution.

He has since illegally seized the financial, banking and mortgage industries, 2/3 of our automobile producers, and is now going after our health care system.

So far, outside of a few feeble protestations on the part of Sen. Robert Byrd, nothing has been done about any of it.

Turbo Tax Timmy and his cronies have yet to be prosecuted for extortion, and not so much as a whimper his been raised over Obama’s seeking to circumvent the Senate when it comes to international treaties.

The only hurdle they have left to get over to complete their coup is imposing ObamaCare on this nation. I believe they will be successful, and damned soon.

Once they get that in place, it’s over.

-Dave

Where’s Hillary in all of this?

Lame Duck SoS?

Upstater85 on July 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM

She is under Obama’s bus changing the oil.

-Dave

1. Cloward-Piven was keeping him busy with ethics charges, etc so it was a major hassle just executing the war on terror, which was his top priority.

2. He had a loser for a press secretary until Tony Snow came along.

How can you have the head of the chain of command – the Commander-in-Chief – not be a part of the chain of command?

Sometimes I feel like we’ve entered the Twilight Zone.

>>>>>>

Bingo! Love always carries the element of justice. How can I say I care about Hondurans if I would stand with those who intend to rape Hondurans? I can’t.

The Bible says that in the end times “because of the increase of wickedness the love of most will grow cold”. That is precisely where we are at. In the interest of being “nice” most people have abandoned LOVE – the balance between mercy and justice.

I think Ed may be torn by the whole idea of not bearing false witness – which is explained by Luther (not Catholic, I know. lol) as “putting the best construction on everything” versus an understanding of Revelation, where the religious and political beasts both end up serving the Dragon (Satan). The Bible is clear that we have very real enemies, and that evil exists. In fact, one of the central beliefs of Christianity is that mankind is fallen, prone to evil, and that we will all have to fight the bad urges our whole life long.

The other question is whether we are ever called to fight OTHER PEOPLE. The image of Jesus is that He is pacifist. And the early Church did suffer persecution without fighting back physically. But I dare you to read the epistles and say there are no fighting words in there. Calling a spade a spade is what it was all about – spades in our own personal lives AND in the views and lives of groups opposed to us.

And the Old Testament is full of the idea that God does His work through political events also, to bring people to repentance. It also speaks of justice, and of the need for all of us to demand that right be done. Not just that the hungry be fed (typical liberal view of Christianity) but also that those who steal and kill should get their just rewards for it.

My better half wishes I would just stay out of politics and only focus on the next world. I just can’t. I don’t see that being consistent with the whole of Scripture. How can I not care what happens to the Hondurans and still say I have the love of Christ in me? How can I consign my children to a life of Sharia if I can do something to stop it now?

I would LOVE it if we had a thread basically discussing the reasons why so many people are apathetic even though they consider themselves to be “good people”. Ed, are you up for it?

This is the dividing line between the Kathleen Parkers, Frums, Noonans of the world, and many of the commenters here. And people naturally quest. exactly where Ed and AP stand in regard to that. Are we at war, or not, seems to be the question to me. Clearly, McCain and Bush didn’t think we had a war at home, as they chose not to mount an offensive.

Not sure I agree with you. Kathaleen Parker, Frum, Noonan etc are RINOs. Whatever is the reason they brand themselves as “conservatives, it is not respect for conservative values. People like Ed on the other hand are real conservatives, but the problem is they suffer from a severe case of projection: they think if they have moral compass and are guided by it, then so do others, unless they present crystal clear proof of the contrary like murdering an innocent, raping a child etc. But if someone only support vicious murderers or don’t have a bad word to say about them it must be because they are deluded, if someone hates or devaluates people on basis of their skin or wealth it must be because they just selectively care for poor etc.
And thus we don’t need to fight them since at heart they are just like us, only are perpetually misguided for whatever reason.

If you’re not sure whether you’re at war or not I suggest you clear it up quickly, cause it may end up badly for your values if you mistake people who don’t give a damn about them for people who love them as much as you do. The first thing you can do is ask yourself what was the last time you really cared about somebody, but do not imagine yourself having a moral outrage at someone who will deliberately murder this person, or not having any dislike of such a scum. Because the Left (let’s take Hollywood for clear cut example) do not dislike violent thugs, terrorists and bloody dictators at all. Although they show us that they are quite capable of disliking people – conservatives. And this is just one example.

before some conservatives finally start actually behaving as if they are at propaganda war with them and not in some sort of bizzare mutual venture where Left are good guys who also no doubt respect and defend these noble things but always to screw them up because they are “misguided”, “stupid”, “clueless” etc. The only ones who are clueless here are those conservatives who continue to believe this.

This is the dividing line between the Kathleen Parkers, Frums, Noonans of the world, and many of the commenters here. And people naturally quest. exactly where Ed and AP stand in regard to that. Are we at war, or not, seems to be the question to me. Clearly, McCain and Bush didn’t think we had a war at home, as they chose not to mount an offensive.

its simple

Hillary to meet with Zelaya

William Amos on July 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM

“The Liar” meets Zelaya.

justincase on July 6, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Yes, you are essentialy correct.

After the Nuremburg trials it was determined that following orders was not an adequate defense…

And My Lai in Viet Nam was the US test case for this idea.

So now, every Military person is repsonsible for second guessing their orders even if given by Command Authority (Presidential order).

Even following SOP and the ROEs your given are not always an adequate defense…

Its scary out there.

Why is Obama administration supporting Zelaya instead of rule of law?

“Simple grasshopper, he’s a filthy elitist communist heathen.”

Why is Obama administration supporting Zelaya instead of rule of law?

Professional courtesy?

Barack only wants to spread the wealth around.

And you can’t do that Constitutionally.

So he’ll perform a by-pass.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Dr. Barry and Mr. Obama: the two faces of the POTUS-TOTUS.

Shakes head.

/sarc

They could be court-martialed for doing the wrong thing.

You’d think Obama would recognize the seriousness of the issue for these guys.

You’d also be wrong. It’s all about him. He has nothing to give to the people who lay their lives on the line – not even the knowledge they need to be able to do their job.

It disgusts me. Our military people are the best we have. They deserve infinitely more than a fraud flipping them the bird.

As I understand it, it’s actually part of the UCMJ that an officer can’t plead ignorance when accused of following an unlawful order. It is his/her responsibility to know that the order is lawful and to both disobey and report unlawful orders.

Any military folks here? Do I understand that right? It’s basically the Nuremburg situation – if Hitler told me to kill a Jew just because he’s a Jew do I still do it? Not if it’s against the law. If Obama is not Constitutionally eligible to be the Commander-in-Chief then it is unlawful to follow his orders.

And the most interesting thing is that the “natural-born citizen” requirement was said by the legal authorities at the time of the Constitution’s writing to be especially important because the president is the commander-in-chief, and the military needs to know its leader is not actually trying to subvert the nation.

Those old guys were smart. Their counsel is right on, and very, very timely.

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 9:06 PM
I think a lot of people including the republican leadership are suffering information overload. No One could have predicted pushing such a radical agenda in all these directions at once.

justincase on July 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Do you think the left would feel the same sympathy for military folks who refused to obey an unconstitutional order that they had for the ones the refused to fight in the Middle East? Naw. Me neither.

Make Obama’s own Constitutional problem put him out of commission to “fix” Zelaya’s Constitutional problem.

More than that, they’re an ally, but does anybody know if we have some sort of defense pact with Honduras?

FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM

We have mor ethan a pact. We have Soto Cano Air Base there, complete with over 600 US military personnel.