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New York Daily News blames “gun culture” for McNair murder

posted at 10:28 am on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Steve McNair apparently died not at the hands of his mistress in a murder-suicide but at the hands of the “gun culture” of America.  So decides sports writer Mike Lupica in the New York Daily News, who must have leapt to his typewriter within minutes of the wire services announcing McNair’s death in order to indict millions of Americans who don’t kill people but manage to own firearms responsibly.  In doing so, he martyrs a man who clearly had other issues than the national “gun culture”:

He came from the Friday night lights of John Brewer Field to being the kind of football star and sports celebrity he became in Nashville. Now he dies in a Nashville condominium with a 20-year-old woman not his wife, multiple gunshot wounds, one to the head, the young woman dead there next to him.

The gun was found next to the woman, Sahel Kazemi. Where did the gun come from? Where it always comes from: Somewhere.

Once I asked one of McNair’s high school coaches, a man named Madison Magee, what the next biggest thing was to happen in Mount Olive after Steve McNair and the man said, “Nothin’.”

He bought a big spread for his mother there, a 600-acre ranch, made millions playing pro football, even if he had to quit younger than a lot of other quarterbacks because he was just too beat up, like a fighter who took too many punches. Even after he stopped playing he was a big guy in Nashville. This weekend he was famous again, this time as a crime statistic, homicide victim, dead by gun. …

There were so many wonderful statistics attached to McNair’s career, the most important being the one Super Bowl, the four Pro Bowls to which he was selected, all the games he won. But the last was the only one that mattered. He is the 36th homicide victim in Nashville this year. That is down from 41 at the same time last year.

Only in a country of gun lovers is that considered progress.

Only a sportswriter with the arrogance and vapidity of Lupica would assume that anyone would equate murder with progress.  Nice strawman you got there, Mike.  Ever do any real arguing, or do you prefer to make up the other half of the debate on your own in order to win debates?

For the record, the murder of a boyfriend, as this appears to be, is slightly more likely to happen by knife instead of gun.  Statistics from the DoJ on murders of intimates from 1990-2005 show that 47% of murdered boyfriends get stabbed to death, while 45% of them get killed by guns.  Would Lupica attribute that to a “knife culture”?  Would the plurality of knife murders be “progress” for Lupica?

Had Lupica paused long enough to do some actual research, he would have found that murders of intimates have dropped over the last 30 years, and that the use of guns as the weapons had declined even faster than the overall drop:

But why let facts get in the way of accusing every gun owner in America of McNair’s murder?

Steve McNair didn’t deserve to get murdered.  However, McNair put himself in a relationship with a woman other than his wife, who at least from the fact that the Nashville police “weren’t looking for a suspect” appears to have killed him as a result of their relationship.  Maybe the lesson here isn’t that America has an evil gun culture, but that famous athletes (and plenty of other people) live risky lifestyles and should pick their companions with a lot more care than some do.


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The gun was found next to the woman, Sahel Kazemi. Where did the gun come from? Where it always comes from: Somewhere.

And why was the gun glued to her hand, still talking when the police arrived? Stupid gun! Keep yer mouth shut!

/parody

SouthernGent on July 6, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Guns don’t kill rich quarterbacks. Krazy Biyotches kill rich quarterbacks.

WWS on July 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

“Knee-jerk.”

Projection.

dtestard on July 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my guns.

rbj on July 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

One can lament the ‘gun culture’ or gun violence in America using a thousand-and-one examples but it is beyond absurd to use this as one of them.

It really is a silly column by Lupica.

SteveMG on July 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Hogwash!

That’s just more mindless, liberal crap.

rplat on July 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM

It begins….This is the first step in negating the 2nd Amendment.

HoustonRight on July 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM

I remember a simpler time, when Mike Lupica limited his toxic brand of sanctimonious, screeching hackery to the sports pages of the News. Oh, well…I read the Post, anyway.

Kid from Brooklyn on July 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM

So what would have been the outcome if he had been stabbed to death? Do we then blame the knife culture? Or how about beaten to death with a lamp? Do we then blame the electronics culture? Or if he had been pushed in front of a train, or thrown off a balcony, or poisoned, or drowned. Who do you blame then?

Why not try blaming whoever was on the delivery end of the weapon? Or maybe even McNair, for being stupid enough to think his fame and fortune gave him license to be a cheating cad?

pilamaye on July 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Lupica’s a hack with his head up Obama’s butt. Nothing worse than marginally talented jocksniffers opining on things outside their realm.

JammieWearingFool on July 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

I live in Puerto Rico, which pretty much outlaws guns. However we have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Gun laws prevent good people from getting guns – not bad people.

flash044 on July 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Crazy Strange is crazy. Sometimes VERY crazy.

playblu on July 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Calls and letters to the NYDN, please!

We have to call this a-hole out.

jay12 on July 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

And why was the gun glued to her hand, still talking when the police arrived? Stupid gun! Keep yer mouth shut!

/parody

SouthernGent on July 6, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I have grounded my gun for the same reason! Even locked it in the cabinet but if I leave any window open, it just crawls out and does what it wants.

Conservican on July 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I expect

as a gun owner
to be taken to court and charged with mcnairs murder

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

That report was a result of the “dumb culture.”

Mojave Mark on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Only a sportswriter with the arrogance and vapidity of Lupica would assume that anyone would equate murder with progress. Nice strawman you got there, Mike.

Ed, your other points are good, but that’s not what he said. He said that in a gun culture, the number of murders *dropping* from 41 to 36 is progress. He didn’t suggest that anyone thinks that murder is progress.

tneloms on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Mike must have been drinking it up doing the holiday and deadline jumped up on him.

d1carter on July 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Nice work Ed.

Now call Mitch and setup some range time.

mad saint jack on July 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Step one: Don’t step out on your wife with a crazy mistress.

Abby Adams on July 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my guns.

rbj on July 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Cars don’t kill people. Kennedys do.

Patrick S on July 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM

And OJ did it because of knife culture?

andycanuck on July 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM

“gun culture” my ass!

How about the “Thug Culture” that surrounds so many rich black athletes and celebrities these days? Huh?

Fishoutofwater on July 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Forks and spoons are making people fat, they must be outlawed.

thomasaur on July 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Shocking, the media blaming an inanimate object for murder? Who would have ever thought…

Stomper on July 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM

He was saying that yesterday on ESPN’s “The Sports Reporters”. He’s a pitiful shrieking eel midg small person.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I blame a lack of respect for human life. The pervasive thinking that one has the right to take away another life because of some personal slight or personal demon.

If you do not respect human life, you will take it with a gun or a knife or any number of other weapons, including bare hands.

This, of course, excludes self defense or actions that occur during war.

myrenovations on July 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I sure hope Lupica has had a vasectomy. I’d hate for his stupidity gene to be passed onward.

Percy_Peabody on July 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Fuzzy-wuzzy was a worm,
Fuzzy-wuzzy crossed the railroad tracks;
A train came along a cut off Fuzzy’s tail;
Fuzzy turned back to retrieve the tail,
and another train cut off his head.

Moral: don’t lose your head over a piece of tail.

And one doesn’t have to wonder too hard about why newspapers are on the rapid extinction list.

Our prayers and well-wishes go out to the McNair family & friends.

locomotivebreath1901 on July 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM

There were so many wonderful statistics attached to McNair’s career, the most important being the one Super Bowl, the four Pro Bowls to which he was selected, all the games he won. But the last was the only one that mattered. He is the 36th homicide victim in Nashville this year

Hey, Mike you also forgot the stat on how many 20 year olds he nailed by promising them he was getting a divorce.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM

The gun was found next to the woman, Sahel Kazemi. Where did the gun come from? Where it always comes from: Somewhere.

Did she have a bible in the other hand?

mizflame98 on July 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM

“gun culture” my ass!

How about the “Thug Culture” that surrounds so many rich black athletes and celebrities these days? Huh?

Fishoutofwater on July 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Maybe in some cases, but not this one.

McNair had a rep for being a nice stand-up guy compared to the Pacman Jones types of the NFL, although the fact that he was found dead with a mistress while still married to his wife doesn’t help that perception.

teke184 on July 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Bet Lupica would wish he’d have a gun if someone were to point one at him.

changer1701 on July 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM

On a side note their is a knife ban in the works.

Link

mad saint jack on July 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM

I blame the “I wanna be yo baby mama and if I cant haz you I gonna cap yo ass” culture.

hanoverfist on July 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Yep. Would have been a better column if he put the spotlight on the “immorality culture.” But that’s just the stuffy social conservative in me talking. All you “progressive moderate conservatives” close your eyes now; bible verses ahead:

Proverbs 5
3-6 The lips of a seductive woman are oh so sweet, her soft words are oh so smooth. But it won’t be long before she’s gravel in your mouth, a pain in your gut, a wound in your heart. She’s dancing down the primrose path to Death; she’s headed straight for Hell and taking you with her. She hasn’t a clue about Real Life, about who she is or where she’s going.

Lots of good advice in Proverbs…

Free Indeed on July 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Lupica has always been a horses @ss. This is the guy who made all kinds of money off of books from the steroid era but acted shocked…shocked I tell you that those massive giants with pumpkin sized heads that he wrote about were on roids, then be became the patron saint of MLB Drug Testing.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Let me see…. married, four kids, she was a server where he and his family went frequently…

Obvious to me… Bush shot him twice in the chest and twice in the head and then shot her, put her fingerprints on the gun and skedaddled… (Cheney waiting patiently in the getaway car outside)

CC

CapedConservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM

In a related development, it has been determined that the “car culture” in America is the cause of people driving drunk. A federal ban on all types of automobile has been proposed and is working its way through committee.

/s

backwoods conservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM

I blame the “I wanna be yo baby mama and if I cant haz you I gonna cap yo ass” culture.

hanoverfist on July 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Dat beez racis n’shit, muhfugga!

Aristotle on July 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Lupica is an idiot of the blithering variety.

Corky on July 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Kazemi’s sister told The Florida Times-Union of Jacksonville that Kazemi had expected to wed McNair.

“She said they were planning to get married,” Soheyla Kazemi told the paper.”

This was from an article in the Daily News.

So probably it was a typical lover’s quarrel that turned violent. She had delusions, or maybe he was stringing her along. Then he told her he couldn’t leave his wife because he still loved his wife or he would lose his endorsement contracts.

Mike Lupica is a terrible writer. He knows next to nothing about sports. Why would anyone care what he thinks about real life?

Ted Torgerson on July 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I’m a little surprised at the pontificating on the McNair incident on this site. A pro athlete was unfaithful? Shocker I know. Big deal, he handled himself with class in on the field and in public. People didn’t buy tickets to watch his living room.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM

It seems all sports writers are as die hard lefties as their regular new cousins. It’s the same stupidity level.Let’s blame an inanimate object rather than the lowering of morals in society thanks to lefty ideals.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Anyone else think that article is very poorly written? You’re a writer man, come on! If you’re going to make a bad argument, the least you could do is write it articulately.

BadgerHawk on July 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM

How about blaming a 34 year old married man with 4 kids who was running around with a 20 year old?

How about blaming the ‘culture of adultery’ huh?

Diogenes of Sinope on July 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Only in a country of gun lovers is that considered progress.

Translation: “I got a Suzy Crap-On-Me Doll instead of a BB gun for my 10th birthday from my two fathers and I haven’t quite reconciled the ensuing psychological issues yet.”

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM

I once had a mistress try to kill us both by grabbing the steering wheel while I was driving at high speed on the highway and attempting to steer us into a concrete barrier. More recently one tried to hack me with a butcher knife.

What did I learn? Don’t have mistresses.

DarkCurrent on July 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM

It seems all sports writers are as die hard lefties as their regular new cousins. It’s the same stupidity level.Let’s blame an inanimate object rather than the lowering of morals in society thanks to lefty ideals.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM

How about we just blame the crazy person that did it? There are plenty of unfaithful relationships that don’t end up in someone getting shot.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM

And Billy Mays was killed by our consumer culture…

Grafted on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM

In the same world that puts the death of a singer to god-like status of importance, the sports world is just as bad.
By the way, why is SANFORD scum for his affair, but Mc Nair a hero for his affair with a “girl” 16 years his younger? Is it we just don’t hold black people to the same morals?

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM

And Billy Mays was killed by our consumer culture…

Grafted on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM

LOL

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM

here’s mike lupica’s email in case anyone wants to tell him what a dumbass he is.

Guardian on July 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM

How about, “rich athletes pissing off their mistresses” culture taking responsibility for this one.

FireBlogger on July 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Mc Nairs girl friend was reportedly driven to it in a moment of insanity when she heard Mc Nairs friend, Brett Favre, wasn’t sure if he’ll play or retire again this year.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM

So if she’d just poisoned him would we be lamenting the “culture of cleaning chemicals in the home”?

JimRich on July 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Black guy shot to death…something to do with being a ‘playa’…

Next.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM

In a related development, it has been determined that the “car culture” in America is the cause of people driving drunk. A federal ban on all types of automobile has been proposed and is working its way through committee.

/s

backwoods conservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Ohhhh… so that explains Cap and Trade… cause we all knew it had nothing to do with the environment…

Now, it suddenly becomes clear…

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM

The gun was found next to the woman, Sahel Kazemi. Where did the gun come from? Where it always comes from: Somewhere.
Did she have a bible in the other hand?

mizflame98 on July 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I’m wondering what the tox screens on her are going to show about what was in her blood system. That’s another “culture” that may have contributed to these deaths.

AZCoyote on July 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM

So if she’d just poisoned him would we be lamenting the “culture of cleaning chemicals in the home”?

JimRich on July 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM

LOL

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

CapedConservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM

So that’s Cheney’s new undisclosed vocation: wheelman.

Barnestormer on July 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Is it we just don’t hold black people to the same morals?

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM

We don’t? Give me a Renault Award coz I’m shocked, shocked to discover this revelation….

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

So if she’d just poisoned him would we be lamenting the “culture of cleaning chemicals in the home”?
JimRich on July 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Unlike guns, household chemicals can’t lie in wait for you to return home and then suddenly jump out and garrote you with a length of piano wire.

Guns are nefarious devices, best that we round them all up and toss them into metal shredders before they kill us all.

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The only reason she used a gun is she couldn’t get the exploding couch wired right.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM

We don’t? Give me a Renault Award coz I’m shocked, shocked to discover this revelation….

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

LOL..Shocking!

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Guns are nefarious devices, best that we round them all up and toss them into metal shredders before they kill us all.

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM

You first ;)

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

I am not necessarily a gun lover, but I am a gun owner. It is a useful tool I sincerely hope I never need to use. Lupica is an idiot!

GFW on July 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Only a sportswriter with the arrogance and vapidity of Lupica would assume that anyone would equate murder with progress.

Arrogant and vapid aren’t two words I’d use to describe Mike no matter how much I happen to disagree with him on this POV.

TheBigOldDog on July 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

In this case, I think we can safely blame women for this murder. They’ve been a thorn in mans side since Eve.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

How bout we blame the media for dancing around, ‘but he was married with 4 kids how could this possibly happen to such a great guy who gives so much to the community’? Quit putting celebrities, sports figures and politicians on a pedestal.
We all have feet made of clay.

Kissmygrits on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Guns don’t kill – bullets do.

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Lupica is a loon. Married men with children should not be boinking women half their age and expect happy endings.

volsense on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

If only those callous civil-rights people hadn’t succeeded in eliminating those gun-control laws that forbade blacks to own guns, this could have all been prevented.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Guns don’t kill – bullets do.

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Well, actually, it’s NOT the bullets, it’s the HOLES

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

You first ;)
LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Don’t think I haven’t tried, unfortunately my trusty 870 was a double-agent and turned me in. The M44 tied me down, the AR-15 covered my head with a hood and then I was pistol whipped by a .44 handgun. *ba da dummmm*

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Step one: Don’t step out on your wife with a crazy mistress.

Abby Adams on July 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM

pannw on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

***clack-clack***

Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Guns don’t kill – bullets do.

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Bullets don’t kill – the physics of energy transfer does

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

If the NFL outlawed black people from playing there’s no way he could of become a rich quarterback that could afford a wife and a mistress.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

This is my rifle.
This is my gun.
This one’s for shootin’
And this one’s for fu..BANG! BANG!
(slump, fall)

sawbuck on July 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Let me see…. married, four kids, she was a server where he and his family went frequently…

Obvious to me… Bush shot him twice in the chest and twice in the head and then shot her, put her fingerprints on the gun and skedaddled… (Cheney waiting patiently in the getaway car outside)

CC

CapedConservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM

This would be more funny if there weren’t some liberals out there who might believe it.

Stomper on July 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Arrogant and vapid aren’t two words I’d use to describe Mike no matter how much I happen to disagree with him on this POV.

TheBigOldDog on July 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Regarding vapid, maybe so. But regarding arrogant, have you ever watched The Sports Reporters?

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Shut up. You’re giving my mossy ideas.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

If the NFL outlawed black people from playing there’s no way he could of become a rich quarterback that could afford a wife and a mistress.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

I can see the new Klan PR campaign now:

Racism – It’s for your own good.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

March 13th 1996 Thomas Watt Hamilton walked into Dunblane primary school carrying 4 handguns and 743 rounds of ammunition, all obtained perfectly legally. He came upon an the assembly of a class of five and six year olds. He shot and killed 16 children and one teacher before killing himself.

Less than a year later the British government introduced a comprehensive ban on the sale of handguns. I honestly can’t comprehend why the multitude of similar tragedies that have occurred in America and hundreds of lives that have been lost when someone loses their mind picks up their gun and does something like this hasn’t had a similar effect.

It’s beyond me.

Equanim1ty found on July 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Guns don’t kill – bullets do.

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Well, actually, it’s NOT the bullets, it’s the HOLES

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Actually…it’s the loss of blood…

ladyingray on July 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

I can see the new Klan PR campaign now:

Racism – It’s for your own good.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Racism…..it’s faaaannn-tastic!

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Guns are nefarious devices, best that we round them all up and toss them into metal shredders before they kill us all.

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM

What a wimp!

Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

If he would have had a gun with him, he would have been able to defend himself. So that is actually a good reason why the right to bear arms is important. And like people have said, they would just use a knife or bow/arrow instead.

The Dean on July 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Equanim1ty found on July 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Compared to stabbing deaths in the UK? Drunk drivers? Strangulations? When the UK outlaws butter knives, cars, and pairs of hands let us know.

Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

So basically Mc Nair got sacked when he tried an end around with a receiver.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

If he would have had a gun with him, he would have been able to defend himself. So that is actually a good reason why the right to bear arms is important. And like people have said, they would just use a knife or bow/arrow instead.

The Dean on July 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Don’t bring a gun to a mortar fight.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM

New York Daily News blames “gun culture” for McNair murder

How about blaming “black culture” or “white culture”, or “jewish culture”.
Or “NFL culture”
This is not the first “crime” that involved an NFL athlete.
The fact is, “gun culture” is born out of other cultures.
It is one of their “tools”, like drugs, prostitutes, alcohol…

right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Lupica has always been a horses @ss. This is the guy who made all kinds of money off of books from the steroid era but acted shocked…shocked I tell you that those massive giants with pumpkin sized heads that he wrote about were on roids, then be became the patron saint of MLB Drug Testing.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM

+1

———-

Great job Ed.

toliver on July 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I honestly can’t comprehend why the multitude of similar tragedies that have occurred in America and hundreds of lives that have been lost when someone loses their mind picks up their gun and does something like this hasn’t had a similar effect.

It’s beyond me.

Equanim1ty found on July 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I hope you had a good 4th of July, but understanding what is was all about is probably beyond you.

DarkCurrent on July 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I blame the “living people culture” for murders.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM

How much do you wanna bet that the gun used actually belonged to McNair? I think she went and retrieved McNairs own gun and killed him with it.

The point that Lupica fails to understand is that when someone becomes determined to kill someone, they will find a way. Had there been no gun then McNair would still be dead with a steak knife protruding from his chest. The girl might still be alive though.

Guardian on July 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Let me see…. married, four kids, she was a server where he and his family went frequently…

Obvious to me… Bush shot him twice in the chest and twice in the head and then shot her, put her fingerprints on the gun and skedaddled… (Cheney waiting patiently in the getaway car outside)

CC

CapedConservative on July 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM
This would be more funny if there weren’t some liberals out there who might believe it.

Stomper on July 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Besides, everyone knows Cheney would be the shooter, not the wheelman…

After all, hes had practice!

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM

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