Comments on: Iranian Revolutionary Guard take command

By: Iran’s Revolutionary Guard takes over, declares stolen election a non-issue - osmoothie

Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:54:49 +0000

[...] Hot Air, Los Angeles Times, “Iran’s Revolutionary Guard acknowledges taking a bigger role in nation’s security” by Borzou Daragahi Reporting from Beirut — The top leaders of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard publicly acknowledged they had taken over the nation’s security during the post-election unrest and warned late Sunday, in a threat against a reformist wave led by Mir-Hossein Mousavi, that there was no middle ground in the ongoing dispute over the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. [...]

By: Wanna See An Actual Military Dictatorship? « Beltway Snark

Wanna See An Actual Military Dictatorship? « Beltway Snark — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:15:47 +0000

[...] Jump to Comments One like “some people” keep accusing Honduras of having? Look at Iran. The top leaders of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard publicly acknowledged they had taken over [...]

By: Iran: the Revolutionary Guards in Charge « The American Catholic

Iran: the Revolutionary Guards in Charge « The American Catholic — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:32:23 +0000

[...] Hattip to Ed Morrissey at Hot Air. No doubt in part a response to the declaration on Saturday of the prestigious Association of Researchers and Teachers of Qum that the election was illegitimate, the Revolutionary Guards, formally known as the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution, announced on Sunday that they had taken charge of all security in Iran and that no further debate over the Presidential election would be tolerated. [...]

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:10:22 +0000

The mullahs and ayatollahs are getting the hang of things.

May the Persian people return the favor.

From every streetlamp in Tehran.

By: Romeo13

Romeo13 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:18:11 +0000

Thought I read somewhere the IRG is about 125,000, which would then make the army about 500,000, eh? And, they would have the tanks and heavy stuff? If one takes religion out of the equation, which it looks like has happened, I wonder what that does.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Yeah, latest I read said its broken into 4 Corps sized elements with inherent Tac Air Assets… then a seperate Air Farce…. Each Corp made up of some armor (Brigade scale), lots of Infantry and Artillery.

Key in a set piece battle is that I don’t think the IRGC has large amounts of artillery, although they do control the WMDs (gas) assets, and some missles.

Would be ugly, and really tough on the populace, as the IRGC is all about using the population as human sheilds.

By: GarandFan

GarandFan — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:14:22 +0000

So is Barry going to send US troops into Iran to insure that the government doesn’t fall?

By: Scrappy

Scrappy — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:02:00 +0000

Beo on July 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

or um… what he said.

By: Scrappy

Scrappy — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:01:08 +0000

“There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

Funny how the definition of “revolution” seems to be so inverted in Iran today.

By: Beo

Beo — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:51:05 +0000

“There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

Cute how the irony of the revolution becoming the establishment is lost on those who wish to paint a true revolution as treason against the ~~establishment~~ Revolution.

By: demotheses

demotheses — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:48:20 +0000

“IF” it came down to a battle between the ENTIRE regular army and the IRGC… I think the army would win… but it would take a Napoleon type (Charismatic Army Leader) to pull it off.

You don’t think that someone politically motivating such as Mousavi could pull it off?

Nah you’re probably right about that. But what if the Regulars joined up with some of the more feroucious member of the public?

Hmmmm

By: ajacksonian

ajacksonian — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:47:56 +0000

This has been going on for some years as the IRGC try to put on a patina of populism to mask their despotic and fascistic ways. Their goal was to sideline the Mullahs in the regime so as to grab for power as the 'protectors' of the revolution. Thugs they were, thugs they are and thugs they will continue to be until they realize that the wall they are seeing is the one they are coming up against in the new revolution. By then it will be too late.

By: Bloodthirsty Liberal » What Did I Just Say?

Bloodthirsty Liberal » What Did I Just Say? — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:38:43 +0000

[...] Bang-bang, you’re dead (or will be, soon enough): The top leaders of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard publicly acknowledged they had taken over the nation’s security and warned late Sunday that there was no middle ground in the ongoing dispute over the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a threat against a reformist wave led by Mir-Hossein Mousavi. [...]

By: barnone

barnone — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:34:38 +0000

Smacking myself in the face for a morbid curiosity as to what a modern nuclear detonation does to a (semi) modern city.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Well forget Twitter.

By: shick

shick — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:30:03 +0000

I don’t know if Iranians will like the U.S. any more or less when this is over but I still want them to have some form of government that belongs to them rather than they belonging to the Iranian government.

By: a capella

a capella — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:28:21 +0000

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Thought I read somewhere the IRG is about 125,000, which would then make the army about 500,000, eh? And, they would have the tanks and heavy stuff? If one takes religion out of the equation, which it looks like has happened, I wonder what that does.

By: saus

saus — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:23:36 +0000

effect on Israel?
JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM

I’d say little.. Because we came to terms with these realities a long time ago. Sure it is exciting to see Iranians this past few weeks step up for something (though no one is sure exactly what per say) but without intervention from outside actors, clearly not much can be done internally.

I don’t imagine this has changed Israel’s plans or schedules for action or inaction. Our own intel briefs were that the movement will be crushed in the end. Also, no strike would occur imho while Obama is actively exploring diplomatic outreach as we have given assurances as much per another diktat.

Only way that would happen is if US admin was giving cover under the guise of active engagement while coordinating a strike with Israel. Likelihood seems remote as you I’m sure agree.

By: rone5847

rone5847 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:12:36 +0000

MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN HONDURAS IS THIS A PRECURSOR OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE USA AFTER ALL CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT DON’T REPESENT THE VOTERS ONLY THEIR PARTY- SPECIAL INTERESTS GROUPS -WITH KICK BACKS- THEY CALL EARMARKS
“BEWARE OF AN ANGRY AMERICA”

By: Iran: What Now? « NEOAVATARA

Iran: What Now? « NEOAVATARA — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:03:44 +0000

[...] Obama, of course, so far has failed on both accounts. And now his job gets even tougher. [...]

By: moonsbreath

moonsbreath — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:56:59 +0000

If the line in the sand is crossed, we may never know about it.

By: Romeo13

Romeo13 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:56:23 +0000

How does the Iranian regular army stack up against the IRGC from a military standpoint? I have a feeling the IRG controls all the sources of hardware and ammo, if their recent infiltration of industy is any indication.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM

From the limited info out there… Looks like the Iranian Regulars are about 4 times the size of the IRGC. About 1/4 are Regulars with the rest being conscripts.

IRGC is primarily into asymetric warfare, and small unit tactics, whiile the Army is more traditional.

Key question is how much of the Regular Army Command staff is made up of IRGC types….

There are also rumours that some Regular Army Generals are already under arrest….

“IF” it came down to a battle between the ENTIRE regular army and the IRGC… I think the army would win… but it would take a Napoleon type (Charismatic Army Leader) to pull it off.

By: JiangxiDad

JiangxiDad — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:56:18 +0000

I hope Iran’s gov’t change helps Israel and hurts Obama.

By: NoDonkey

NoDonkey — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:50:32 +0000

Iranian Revolutionary Guard

a.k.a. the Iranian Debate Team (just ask our president and Statist Department).

By: a capella

a capella — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:46:12 +0000

How does the Iranian regular army stack up against the IRGC from a military standpoint? I have a feeling the IRG controls all the sources of hardware and ammo, if their recent infiltration of industy is any indication.

By: Romeo13

Romeo13 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:44:55 +0000

May they be cleansed by Yiddish Fire

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Well…. you know… Ethiopians say they have the Ark of the Covenent, and it DOES belong to the Israelis…

And the Bible talks about the Ark laying waste to regions…

Just sayin…

By: JiangxiDad

JiangxiDad — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:44:08 +0000

Jaibones on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Why does Israel have to strike now, any more than before. Even if it’s true that the leadership issue is resolved, the facts among the populace and clerics have changed. That means Iran isn’t the same place it was. Shouldn’t we wait and see whether the new Iran’s internal stability issues will doom it? Is Israel more in danger from Iran now than before?