Iranian Revolutionary Guard take command

posted at 3:40 pm on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The last shreds of the illusion of due process in Iran have fallen away as the regime makes its dictatorship explicit.  The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps announced today that they have taken control of all state security functions, and demanded an end to all debate over the presidential election.  The IRGC claims that this clairifies the regime’s “value positions,” which certainly seems apparent:

The top leaders of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard publicly acknowledged they had taken over the nation’s security and warned late Sunday that there was no middle ground in the ongoing dispute over the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a threat against a reformist wave led by Mir-Hossein Mousavi.

Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, commander of the elite military branch, said the Guard’s takeover of the country had led to “a revival of the revolution and clarification of the value positions of the establishment at home and abroad.” …

Jafari’s comments came the closest yet to publicly acknowledging what government supporters describe as a heroic intervention by the Revolutionary Guard and critics decry as a palace “coup d’etat” instigated by military elites loyal to Khamenei.

But instead of bowing to such pressure, opposition figures and protesters are preparing for massive nationwide rallies called for Thursday, the 10th anniversary of a 1999 attack by pro-government militiamen on the dormitories of Tehran University that led to weeks of political unrest.

As the Los Angeles Times reports, they won’t be alone, either.  The Muslim scholars from which Ali Khamenei and the Guardian Council draw their religious legitimacy have called the election “illegitimate” over the weekend.  That puts the IRGC on a collision course with the Qum masters and a religious scholarship set up my Ruhollah Khomeini himself.

If the Qum community backs the protests on Thursday, that could lead to an irreparable split between Khamenei and his religious allies.  It would force Khamenei to put aside his claims of divine authority and rule as a military dictator, backed by the muscular IRGC.  That may work in the short term, but the dissatisfaction seen in Iran originally took place in the context of a theocracy of a sect common to most Iranians.  A military dictatorship would throw those values out the window, and will prompt even more momentum for change.

The IRGC wants to double down on that bet:

“Today, no one is impartial,” Gen. Yadollah Javani said at the Sunday press conference, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency. “There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

That is the final desperate diktat of tyrants, making all opposition treason.  If the Iranian people go into the streets this week, the mullahs will have to choose between retreating from that challenge or attempting to enforce it — and either will further undermine the legitimacy of their rule.  (via Saus and Memeorandum)

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This egg is cracking

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I look forward to hearing Obama denounce this military coup.

Rip Ford on July 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

But instead of bowing to such pressure, opposition figures and protesters are preparing for massive nationwide rallies called for Thursday…

May the force be with them.

Since, like, Obama’s not.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Please keep pushing.

myrenovations on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

What’s “elite” about them, LA Times? The Iraqi Republican Guard were also “elite” weren’t they? How did that work out for them?

Does the LA Times also refer to the “elite Bloods” and the “elite Crips”?

Cause that’s pretty much what the “elite” Revolutionary Guard is.

NoDonkey on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Present.

Now, Honduras, on the other hand,…

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

There will be blood.

Flyover Country on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM

“There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

Interesting a revolution on The Revolution. What will they do to the cleric that disagree?

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM

So, will Obama call this a COUP?

Will the MSM blast this as a COUP?

UN????… crickets….

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM

It would force Khamenei to put aside his claims of divine authority and rule as a military dictator, backed by the muscular IRGC.
I don’t think it matters to Khamenei at this point how he keeps his throne. If I had a gun at someones head I could convince them of anything.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Start arming the people of Iran, they are not afraid. The people of Iraq can send them some of the IED’s back with love.

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM

It will be interesting to see what the Iranian Army does… if anything… in all this.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Now is the time to start smuggling arms into Iran. There are a lot of AK-47s in the world, and a lot of rounds for them.

njcommuter on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Will the MSM blast this as a COUP?

Perhaps if they can spare a single reporter from the million media march on the Michael Jackson funeral/canonization.

NoDonkey on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) – U.S. officials say Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton plans to meet ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya this week. It would be the highest-level contact the Obama administration has had with Zelaya since he was deposed last week. -Breibart

Now watch as Hillary meets with ousted Khamenei and offers U.S. Marines up to fly him home.

Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I don’t think Barry can afford to send troops to defend Khamenei while at the same time sending troops to Honduras to reinstate Zelaya as a dictator, and this doesn’t even take into account what is about to happen to Evo Morales.

Vashta.Nerada on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Now watch as Hillary meets with ousted Khamenei and offers U.S. Marines up to fly him home.

Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

With Obama out of the country and Biden out of his mind, you just never can tell.

fourdeucer on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I guess the robust debate has ended.

lorien1973 on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Obama just can’t wait for all this “protesting stuff” to finally end so he can cave to Ali Khamenei like he is dying to do. Besides, everybody knows that Ali Khamenei and Imadinnerjacket are not murderous dictators they are just “tough politicians” taking charge – that’s all. In Obama’s world “engagement” with Iran will happen no matter what.

johnnybgood on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Send Biden over to talk things over.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Very dangerous
Ahmadinejad actually wants a war with Israel no matter the cost. Now there won’t even be the mildest of checks over him.
A war with Israel would proably get all the people back in line as well. Mousavi supporters can’t stand Israel either.
Prediction war in three to six months.

kangjie on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

This is the “vigorous debate” of which BHO has spoken.

“Shut up, or we keeeeel you.”

(with apologies to Jeff Dunham and Achmed – link below for those who know not to whom I refer.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

maninthemiddle on July 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Prediction war in three to six months.

kangjie on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

We need some modern hi-def footage of Israeli nukes. That old grainy 50s footage from NV just doesn’t pump my nads.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I can see this very thing happening here by 2012.

leftnomore on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I can see this very thing happening here by 2012.

leftnomore on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

It’s been happening for years at colleges around the country.

Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard

You spelled “Praetorian” wrong.

Veeshir on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

This is an anti-coup! Even now Dear Leader is getting ready to send hordes of ACORN volunteers to Iran to take notes.

rbj on July 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM

This is an anti-coup! Even now Dear Leader is getting ready to send hordes of ACORN volunteers to Iran to take notes.

rbj on July 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”

Obama

IRGC is NOT part of the Military…. technicaly.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I wonder if Obama and Putin are discussing right now who they intend to back?

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I can see this very thing happening here by 2012.

leftnomore on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

If it comes to that, at least we’ve got the guns to get the job done fast.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

We need some modern hi-def footage of Israeli nukes. That old grainy 50s footage from NV just doesn’t pump my nads.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Smacking myself in the face for a morbid curiosity as to what a modern nuclear detonation does to a (semi) modern city.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

So they’re against a revolution against a revolution.

Phoenician on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Jafari’s comments came the closest yet to publicly acknowledging what government supporters describe as a heroic intervention by the Revolutionary Guard and critics decry as a palace “coup d’etat” instigated by military elites loyal to Khamenei.

But instead of bowing to such pressure, opposition figures and protesters are preparing for massive nationwide rallies called for Thursday, the 10th anniversary of a 1999 attack by pro-government militiamen on the dormitories of Tehran University that led to weeks of political unrest.

So will Adolf Obama express his “deep concern” about the “debate” going on in Iran or is he to busy plotting a coup to restore his friend Benito Zalahi to power in Italy Hondurans?

MB4 on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Smacking myself in the face for a morbid curiosity as to what a modern nuclear detonation does to a (semi) modern city.

Count to 10

Well, here’s something we would show in class when I was a USMC nuke weapons instructor. It was done originally as an anti-nuke film, but is pretty informative as far as blast effects go, regardless of one’s politics.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Smacking myself in the face for a morbid curiosity as to what a modern nuclear detonation does to a (semi) modern city.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

May they be cleansed by Yiddish Fire

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Can’t you just let the President eat his shashlik?

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Well, here’s something we would show in class when I was a USMC nuke weapons instructor. It was done originally as an anti-nuke film, but is pretty informative as far as blast effects go, regardless of one’s politics.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Whoa! I remember the original broadcast of this!

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Made an impression, did it not?

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

They’ve certainly thrown down the gauntlet, and why not? I think they have beat this down at least for now. They’re going to execute Mousavi and anyone else in the way imho, but 1st they are going to torture out confessions, rip families apart, throw people in dark holes never to be seen again etc..

“Today, no one is impartial,” Gen. Yadollah Javani said at the Sunday press conference, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency. “There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

This is a frightening statement, when Ed says final diktat he isn’t kidding. They’ve openly declared war against anyone in the way – Including their own spiritual luminaries. The IRGC is a terrorist organization, just like in Lebanon & Gaza, just like the Islamic Brotherhood, and just like Al Qaeda the mask is now fully off – terrorists have seized control of political Islam to radicalize it almost across the board.

They will lynch, rape, murder & kill anyone in the name of Islam.

saus on July 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM

If the Iranian people go into the streets this week, the mullahs will have to choose between retreating from that challenge or attempting to enforce it — and either will further undermine the legitimacy of their rule. (via Saus and Memeorandum)

Yea, it sucks when the people get tired of being bullied.

BobMbx on July 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM

They will lynch, rape, murder & kill anyone in the name of Islam.

saus on July 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM

effect on Israel?

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM

So if the current regime falls despite 0′s backing, and a true reformist government comes in, how willing will the new guys be to sit down with Dear Leader without preconditions? This is starting to look a lot like the last Iranian revolution, with our inept president backing the wrong guy.

iurockhead on July 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM

I wonder if Obama and Putin are discussing right now who they intend to back?

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Nah…most likely it’s Obama trying to talk Putin into just a bit more anal lube…

BobMbx on July 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM

No wonder the Saudis have supposedly agreed to let the Israelis clean up the Iranian problem through their airspace. Not looking good for the House of Saud, they ain’t warriors, whatever they might have been many, many years ago. Good equipment, but no balls.

Dunno that it means much good for us, but it might be pretty good for the Mid-East.

Harry Schell on July 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM

End Game.

Ed noted yesterday with the criticism of Khamenei that the mullahs were coming undone, and now was not the time to get in their way.

This news moves us to the endgame: while the mullahs may have created the IRGC and used them to effect a dictatorial government, the tail is now wagging the dog, and it doesn’t matter what the mullahs want – the Guard has achieved consciousness in their own right, and they will tell the mullahs how it’s going to go.

We can now return to the discussion of the Saudis tacitly approving Israeli use of their airspace, and Greasy Joe’s apparent rejection of Obama’s dictator-knobbing foreign policy with a clear conscience, as Ed notes: this is now an openly military dicatatorship, free of any pretense that Iran is Democratic.

Since Obama is going to do exactly squat in Iran, let’s begin looking for ways to cheer on the IDF in their apparent plans to fly into Iran and bomb a bunch of shit.

Jaibones on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Ali Larijani, speaker of the Iranian parliament: If ISrael attacks, US is responsible.

Phoenician on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Very dangerous situation in Iran.

And at the end of the day, Israel is the one who’s going to have to clean up the mess.

Unfortuantely for Iran, I know which side wins in the end.

You-Eh-Vee on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Made an impression, did it not?

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

I recall it was well-received by the general public. I think we were appreciative of the frank honesty.

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:37 PM

My reaction was exactly the same as yours when we first played it at the unit in the late ’80′s: “Wow! i Renmember this!” They did their homework, didn’t they?

And back then we all thought it a distinct possibility, so the depiction was twice as horrifying.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:42 PM

“I remember”

Cha.

tree hugging sister on July 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Jaibones on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Why does Israel have to strike now, any more than before. Even if it’s true that the leadership issue is resolved, the facts among the populace and clerics have changed. That means Iran isn’t the same place it was. Shouldn’t we wait and see whether the new Iran’s internal stability issues will doom it? Is Israel more in danger from Iran now than before?

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM

May they be cleansed by Yiddish Fire

LimeyGeek on July 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Well…. you know… Ethiopians say they have the Ark of the Covenent, and it DOES belong to the Israelis…

And the Bible talks about the Ark laying waste to regions…

Just sayin…

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM

How does the Iranian regular army stack up against the IRGC from a military standpoint? I have a feeling the IRG controls all the sources of hardware and ammo, if their recent infiltration of industy is any indication.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Iranian Revolutionary Guard

a.k.a. the Iranian Debate Team (just ask our president and Statist Department).

NoDonkey on July 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM

I hope Iran’s gov’t change helps Israel and hurts Obama.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

How does the Iranian regular army stack up against the IRGC from a military standpoint? I have a feeling the IRG controls all the sources of hardware and ammo, if their recent infiltration of industy is any indication.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM

From the limited info out there… Looks like the Iranian Regulars are about 4 times the size of the IRGC. About 1/4 are Regulars with the rest being conscripts.

IRGC is primarily into asymetric warfare, and small unit tactics, whiile the Army is more traditional.

Key question is how much of the Regular Army Command staff is made up of IRGC types….

There are also rumours that some Regular Army Generals are already under arrest….

“IF” it came down to a battle between the ENTIRE regular army and the IRGC… I think the army would win… but it would take a Napoleon type (Charismatic Army Leader) to pull it off.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

If the line in the sand is crossed, we may never know about it.

moonsbreath on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN HONDURAS IS THIS A PRECURSOR OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE USA AFTER ALL CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT DON’T REPESENT THE VOTERS ONLY THEIR PARTY- SPECIAL INTERESTS GROUPS -WITH KICK BACKS- THEY CALL EARMARKS
“BEWARE OF AN ANGRY AMERICA”

rone5847 on July 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

effect on Israel?
JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM

I’d say little.. Because we came to terms with these realities a long time ago. Sure it is exciting to see Iranians this past few weeks step up for something (though no one is sure exactly what per say) but without intervention from outside actors, clearly not much can be done internally.

I don’t imagine this has changed Israel’s plans or schedules for action or inaction. Our own intel briefs were that the movement will be crushed in the end. Also, no strike would occur imho while Obama is actively exploring diplomatic outreach as we have given assurances as much per another diktat.

Only way that would happen is if US admin was giving cover under the guise of active engagement while coordinating a strike with Israel. Likelihood seems remote as you I’m sure agree.

saus on July 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Thought I read somewhere the IRG is about 125,000, which would then make the army about 500,000, eh? And, they would have the tanks and heavy stuff? If one takes religion out of the equation, which it looks like has happened, I wonder what that does.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM

I don’t know if Iranians will like the U.S. any more or less when this is over but I still want them to have some form of government that belongs to them rather than they belonging to the Iranian government.

shick on July 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Smacking myself in the face for a morbid curiosity as to what a modern nuclear detonation does to a (semi) modern city.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Well forget Twitter.

barnone on July 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM

This has been going on for some years as the IRGC try to put on a patina of populism to mask their despotic and fascistic ways. Their goal was to sideline the Mullahs in the regime so as to grab for power as the ‘protectors’ of the revolution. Thugs they were, thugs they are and thugs they will continue to be until they realize that the wall they are seeing is the one they are coming up against in the new revolution. By then it will be too late.

ajacksonian on July 6, 2009 at 5:47 PM

“IF” it came down to a battle between the ENTIRE regular army and the IRGC… I think the army would win… but it would take a Napoleon type (Charismatic Army Leader) to pull it off.

You don’t think that someone politically motivating such as Mousavi could pull it off?

Nah you’re probably right about that. But what if the Regulars joined up with some of the more feroucious member of the public?

Hmmmm

demotheses on July 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM

“There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

Cute how the irony of the revolution becoming the establishment is lost on those who wish to paint a true revolution as treason against the establishment Revolution.

Beo on July 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

“There are two currents — those who defend and support the revolution and the establishment, and those who are trying to topple it.”

Funny how the definition of “revolution” seems to be so inverted in Iran today.

Scrappy on July 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Beo on July 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM

or um… what he said.

Scrappy on July 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM

So is Barry going to send US troops into Iran to insure that the government doesn’t fall?

GarandFan on July 6, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Thought I read somewhere the IRG is about 125,000, which would then make the army about 500,000, eh? And, they would have the tanks and heavy stuff? If one takes religion out of the equation, which it looks like has happened, I wonder what that does.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Yeah, latest I read said its broken into 4 Corps sized elements with inherent Tac Air Assets… then a seperate Air Farce…. Each Corp made up of some armor (Brigade scale), lots of Infantry and Artillery.

Key in a set piece battle is that I don’t think the IRGC has large amounts of artillery, although they do control the WMDs (gas) assets, and some missles.

Would be ugly, and really tough on the populace, as the IRGC is all about using the population as human sheilds.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM

The mullahs and ayatollahs are getting the hang of things.

May the Persian people return the favor.

From every streetlamp in Tehran.

profitsbeard on July 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM