Examiner vs Examiner on Palin
posted at 12:05 pm on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Ever since Sarah Palin announced her resignation from office, conservatives have debated on the merits of the choice, including in the lengthy comment threads at Hot Air. Even the Washington Examiner, one of the leading new lights of conservative media, has found itself at odds internally over Palin’s actions. Editorial page editor and longtime conservative stalwart Mark Tapscott says that conventional wisdom cannot explain Palin:
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s announcement of her resignation cannot be read in terms of the conventional wisdom of politics - i.e. that she’s getting out ahead of some damaging political revelation she knows is right around the corner, she’s fed up with the constant personal attacks on her and her family, or she’s running for president in 2012 and wants to be free of the constraints of office.
A close reading of her actual words in her announcement reveals otherwise. The key fact about Palin is that she is not a conventional politician. She actually means what she says, which is why her statement must be read in light of that fact, not that she has ulterior motives. …
Palin is embarking on an independent path in nationa politics that, if she is successful, will lead to a new third force. Not necessarily a third party, but definitely a populist insurrection that could reshape American politics for years to come. Does the Tea Party Protests movement come to mind?
Prisoners of conventional wisdom almost certainly will miss the significance of Palin’s decision. But they’ve never understood why she struck such a powerful chord with everyday Americans in 2008, so we ought not be surprised that this announcement is [completely] beyond their ability to understand what is really happening.
Chris Stirewalt, the political editor at the Examiner, says that Tapscott’s missing the point. Palin’s problem has been the incessant drama, and that this only adds to her credibility problem with the majority of the electorate:
Sarah Palin learned a lot of things in her time as John McCain’s running mate — about the savagery of the media; about the duplicity of politicos; about her own gifts as a politician.
But she did not learn the most important lesson of 2008: no drama. …
David Letterman’s gross, unfunny joke about Palin’s teenage daughter, the ongoing skirmish among the former McCainiacs and the frivolous ethics complaints against her by Democratic hacks are all just part of life for Palin these days. But rather than rising above the squalor, Palin has fully engaged on each point. She stayed in the headlines blasting washed-up Letterman for days, continued to dish about the failings of McCain’s campaign and quit office blaming the ethics complaints for her departure.
There is always a lot of sound and fury around Palin, but does it signify anything other than her status as a celebrity?
Michael Barone, who is, well, Michael Barone, just throws his hands in the air:
I was astonished by Sarah Palin’s announcement that she is going to resign as Governor of Alaska. I’ve read over her “point guard” explanation for doing so, and I still don’t get it. She’s says he going to advance the causes she believes in by leaving public office? She will evidently leave office with only 16 months to go in her term (she says she’ll resign July 26 and Alaska governors take office in December); why not serve out the 16 months? It’s not that long a time. …
Some are hailing her resignation as a political masterstroke. I’m just puzzled. How does resigning as governor strengthen her as a presidential candidate?
All of these have elements of the truth. If all Palin wants to be is a speaker and activist, then her resignation as governor of Alaska won’t hurt her at all. Thanks to her notoriety, Palin will attract crowds and media wherever she goes and whatever she does. If she chooses to be chair of the Tea Party Movement, I suspect most would be happy to grant her the title, and she’d be effective at it.
If, however, Palin wants to pursue national office rather than just be an activist for the rest of her life, her resignation will prove a very messy hurdle. Alaskans trusted her with their higher office on the assumption that she would take it seriously enough to complete the term. Voters would have understood if she had to resign in January to become Vice President, but because — in her own words — she didn’t want to deal with governing as a “lame duck.” The first question in any campaign debate for Palin from now on will be, “Will you quit in the middle of a presidential term if you get disenchanted or get ethics complaints filed against you?”
Palin’s supporters might think that resigning is a brilliant strategic stroke, but those are by far not enough to get her elected President, as the last election pretty clearly showed. Palin needed to build a sober resumé as an executive, someone who could show that the media had her all wrong — someone, as Stirewalt points out, could have her substance eclipse her celebrity. Palin needed to build a broader base, not narrow it down to the true believers, and she had an opportunity to do that by finishing out her term in the tough conditions of an economic downturn. Instead, she resigned to leverage her celebrity, which will not convince current non-believers and political agnostics of her substance. Instead, it gives them even more reason to distrust Palin.
In the end, perhaps the two sides of the Palin debate have talked past each other for the last few days. If Palin wants to be freed up to give speeches and focus on the faithful, her resignation will not dim those possibilities at all. If she plans to advance in national office, though, she has to address the “conventional” as well as the unconventional to win national office, and resigning halfway through a first term is no way to go about it.
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No, because hat’s actually true.
myrenovations on July 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Palin/Drago ‘08!!
s/
portlandon on July 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM
And I supported Romney in the primaries and whenever it has come up I have said I’d like to see Romney/Palin in 2012. What I am offended by is bloggers regurgitating the “common wisdom” of the washington elite. The washington elite who do not want thier apple cart upset. The washington elite who told us mccain was the only one who could beat barry. The washington elite who squandered and plundered during 8 years of republican control. What I am offended by is the status quo that has created a self annointed American royalty. And I am offended by poseurs.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Might want to read up on Alaskas ethics laws. Its my understanding that she can’t even publicly comment on any ongoing ethics charge, or its another ethics charge. So “squashing” them in the press is a non starter.
It costs NOTHING to bring an ethics complaint… and the Government HAS to investigate it… and the Defendent must pay for their own defence.
When you are forced to spend time and money answering such important issues as wearing a Logo on a Jacket at a snow machine race… and the State must spend money investigating it… and your Lawyers have to answer it… and you and everyone involved has to be deposed…. But it costs the Complaintant NOTHING…
Its a flawed system… but one that will not be changed as long as Sarah is the target of it, its too convenient for the Murcowski wing of the GOP…
My bet? Ethics reform will suddenly be a top agenda for the legislature.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM
And that is why I will support her. I believe she truly has a higher calling than mere ambition. She is a mother who, like me, loves her country as it was meant to be and even more, loves her children and is concerned about the world they are inheriting.
I just love her, bad interviews, rambling speeches and all. I know she isn’t perfect, but I trust her to do what she truly thinks is right. I also think she is pretty darn smart, shrewd, and tough as nails. But most of all, I do trust her. It is such a good feeling.
pannw on July 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Wow. My Food pyramid must be really outdated. Crunch berries are listed as a fruit.
portlandon on July 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM
I do not believe you are stupid. You have an almost suicidal resolve to not think outside the box.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Why couldn’t it have been one for the governor? Couldn’t she have helped?
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Teo different entities.
I am working with some on the Legislature to have it changed. SDo those who bring on fraudulant ones are charged the fees of the lawyers.
upinak on July 6, 2009 at 2:46 PM
You’d vote for it. You know you would.
And so would I.
Yeah, you do. Drop the pretenses.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 2:47 PM
I’m sure another round of complaints would’ve been filed also had she even attempted to use any of her gubernatorial power to investigate these complaints. Perhaps she can do this now as a civilian, have them investigated? Only legal experts on a mission aware of this horribly flawed system in Alaska could have orchestrated this campaign. look at the people who filed them (AK citizens). Sure they’ve been rewarded for their handiwork.
RepubChica on July 6, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Hopefully, but not if people who are the targets of it refuse to bring the issue to light. All that was accomplished is that those who are abusing the system were successful, and it will steel their reserve to do so in the future to any other “upstarts” who try and do something good for that state.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Are you saying there was nothing she could do as governor? I just find that hard to believe.
That’s incredible. I hope you are successful. Frivolous lawsuits are at least among the top ten of things destroying this country.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 2:49 PM
hope so, he channeled into one of my reoccuring nightmares that shows Graham running for president, with mcccain bringing up the ‘rear’ to support him.
HornetSting on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM
God help us all. Michelle`s sight has thread on Global warming hearing, John McCain heading it. I really had no idea he was a Gore follower. Does no one use facts to make an opinion anymore. He says he became a believer when Arizona started getting hotter each year. Broblem is temp stats don
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM
You need to run for office up there.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM
My point was that it wasn’t incoherent as has been claimed, not its quality as an oratory.
And it wasn’t bad, anyway. But that’s a little too subjective to bother arguing anyway.
I think she’ll be fine. Quite sure of it, but I do understand the criticism. Her resignation is not out of the political playbook, to be sure.
Maybe is the notion of her thumbing her nose at the political establishment, punditry included, and possibly coming out on top, that I relish.
I just ran for city council in a town 300k here in Southern CA and lost (60% to 33% with a third candidate getting 7%) I got ZERO help from the “conservative” good old boys establishment around here. I know it’s a stretch, but feel a certain kinship to her situation.
It isn’t the establishment that is the future, they aren’t real conservatives anyway, it’s those who will have the energy and creativity to argue for tried and true values, like mine and Palin’s and many of yours, that will turn this country around.
I just don’t care what the “smart” political goons say anymore. I’m an independent now. Independent and more conservative than the GOP has any hope of being.
pugwriter on July 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM
hope so, he channeled into one of my reoccuring nightmares that shows Graham running for president, with mcccain bringing up the ‘rear’ to support him.
HornetSting on July 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM
God help us all. Michelle`s sight has thread on Global warming hearing, John McCain heading it. I really had no idea he was a Gore follower. Does no one use facts to make an opinion anymore. He says he became a believer when Arizona started getting hotter each year. Problem is temp stats don`t backup his theory.Guess facts don`t count like they used to.
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Here’s just one of the complaints filed against her:
The rest is here
RepubChica on July 6, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Uh, she has brought this to light… problem is that it got no traction in the Press, and no traction in the Legislature…
Face it, the MSM loved to dump on Palin. Why would they then act to help her change a system which is costing her time and money, and harrasing her administration?
As to the Legislature… I’m just going off of what I read here in Colorado… but she sure does not seem to have a lot of Republican support in the Legislature… they seemed to turn on her as her numbers dropped, because of the neverending attacks by the MSM.
Ever here of any Alaska GOP type getting on the pulpit and blasting the misuse of the Ethics laws? No, all we kept hearing was about the ethics complaints themsselves.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side… we have Cookies, and Tea Parties!
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Legitimate criticism isn’t damaging. Pretending someone is incapable of error will certainly be.
ProfessorMiao on July 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM
highhopes, No one is stopping you from expressing yourself at HotAir. The discussion re: Palin is another example of the dialogue that HotAir entertains. As per the last primary campaign that began WAY TOO EARLY and has yet to end, your first paragraph provides an exemplary emotional outburst. If true, your reference of “blind stupid loyalty” would apply to all quarters, including your own. Of course Americans have the right of free speech to express their opinions.
I support Palin’s future as her own, and I support her Constitutional Right to self determination. I’m sure that you do as well. Only an elitist authoritarian would deny another human those unalienable rights.
I do not support those who denounce Palin’s life of public service, I denounce them. I also eschew the presumption that some take upon themselves self righteously to limit what Palin has their permission to attempt with her life in politics.
What will be, will be. But I, for one, am not about to sabotage Palin. On the contrary, considering what evil people have done to her, I go the extra mile to make sure NOT to take part in vile mob group think. To hell with popularity or the forces of evil when it comes time to hold the line for what is right in life. Morons need not attack Palin, yet they choose to. That is telling.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Nope. I think you are brainwashed, rigid and stuck in a paradigm not of your creation.
Let me try to explain 1 part of the issue as clearly as possible so you can understand. Millions of dollars and operatives have already flowed into Alaska to stimey any kind of productivity from the Palin administration. Any initiative from the governors office would have been defeated. Nothing would have been done in the next 16 months. In addition, if any details of the pipeline deal are still to be hammered out, the oil executives who would make those decisions have been visited by men with briefcases full of money who made them offers they couldn’t refuse if they dragged out any further negotiations until she was out of office. There would not only be no victories or accomplishments from here on out but the state would suffer from the intentional shut down by the national left. In the meanwhile, ethics complaint after ethics complaint would be filed. There would be 50 against her by the time she left office and most likely all would be defeated. Defeating them would leave her either broke or beholden to special interests who would bail her out. Either way, in 2011 as the presidential race got under way, every msm mouthpiece would introduce stories about her as “the most investigated governor in the history of the US” and “the governor who had 50 ethics complaints lodged against her in one term”. Doesn’t matter if every one was frivolous and thrown out. They are already saying the Bush presidency was scandal plagued. What scandals were real? Palin put in place a successful and ethical team and she has a Lt. Governor she trusts. The national money will dry up the day of her resignation and the state will have an administration in place with the same vision as if she were there without the full court press. She now has 3 years to help people like you understand her motivations. Her resignation will be so old news by 2011 that any idiot who brings it up will look exactly like that, an idiot.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side… we have Cookies, and Tea Parties!
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
mmmmmm, cooooookies!
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
It is sort of fun to watch both sides rack their brains over Sarah Palin’s decision to resign. Each has managed to twist the act into a bizarre, mysterious dialogue worthy of Alfred Hitchcock.
Palin is not that devious or manipulative. She is just a common sense kind of person that set out on her political journey, because she didn’t like the way sales taxes were being used in her hometown. Nothing about that was some wild, crazy plan to take over the world. She saw a problem and acted in order to make a difference.
My gut feeling is that she recognizes that her 2012 odds are pretty slim and she also understands that she needs to strike while the iron is hot. She will leave behind $125,000 a year as a governor and make millions while she champions the conservative cause. If she does nothing more than help shift the congressional balance in 2010, she will have done more than any one individual to save this country!
joedoe on July 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM
I’m sure she will as well, just less sure if her definition of “fine” is one day being president. Though I’m not completely sure she can’t do that either.
And yet, there’s a reason this isn’t out of the political playbook, and not just because of “politics as usual”. That she didn’t seem to understand that during her speech was a concern to me.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Just speaking for myself, but anyone I could describe in those terms, I’d also use the synonym of stupid for short, just based on the connotation of the words alone.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Oatmeal raisin? And good strong coffee with real cream?
pugwriter on July 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Hmmm… and yet… one of her quotes in her speech was “don’t explain, your freinds don’t need it, and your enemies won’t believe it anyway”…
I think she knew how this would play.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Right before she announced it she said it was unprecedented and “uncomfortable”. You didn’t listen or read the speach, did you?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Yes, becaue the Dark Side Administration will NOT use the FDA to say you should not use cream…
And does not believe that Cow Flatulence is driving Global Warming!
And will support our Honduran REPUBLIC freinds, so we can get Honduran Coffee!
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Yeah, that’s what’s known as “doublespeak”.
It’s routinely employed by some on this website.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Sorry. I’ll try to use simpler words in the future.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM
And we won’t tax Honduran tobacco!
(I loves my cigars.)
pugwriter on July 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM
No, no. As I said, “stupid” worked fine.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 3:18 PM
OK, I guess you know yourelf better then anyone.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:19 PM
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM
J.D.Hayworth should oust McCain and become Arizona’s newest senator.
If McCain feels the heat more than ever, it’s of his own making for dissing constituents and sabotaging his own POTUS campaign.
As per Phoenix or any desert Southwest city getting hotter each summer, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE ASPHALT CONCRETE INCREASINGLY COVERING WHAT USED TO BE OPEN LAND MASS. Go barefoot to test which burns hotter and reflects more heat in the full sun, asphalt or soil.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM
But you can’t comment on my description of the situation?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM
As long as you’re honest about it, and knock off the backhanded insults.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Nah. Too stupid.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Then she should know what her chances in 2012 would be.
Listen? No, didn’t have the heart. I did read it though, just didn’t memorize it.
That said, her acknowledging that it was unprecedented and uncomfortable don’t at all address my concerns that she doesn’t realize why politicians aspiring to hirer office don’t quit their jobs unless they have another one lined up.
What I got was her idea that it’s OK that she’s not doing “politics as usual” even if it’s uncomfortable for some. That’s fine on some things. I just disagree that this is one of those.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Then I fear you have deeper issues then stupidity.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Too bad the same couldn’t have been done with Sanford. :) /sarc
I do Thank you for your take. I’m sure a lot of others, like me, were very interested in your take on things.
When you said “…moving forward.” I immediately thought of a song done by Dilana a couple of years ago, Supersoul, where right before she starts the song she states :
“Supersoul is a Freedom song, it’s not an angry song. It’s all about Freedom; letting go of bad things, moving forward.” Seemed apropos to both the comment and situation.
mauioriginal on July 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM
She claims that frivolous ethics complaints would have crippled the remainder of her administration, but she begins her resignation speech with an impressive list of accomplishments — some of which she presumably managed while fighting the 15 ethics complaints. All 15 of those complaints were dismissed. We’ll never know whether the worst was behind her because she resigned before a single, new complaint had been filed. She obviously expected new complaints, but why shouldn’t she be optimistic that she had seen the worst already in “troopergate?”
By her own account, she helped pass the legislation that made the ethics complaints such a burden. She could have at least stuck it out for another year to try and help fix the law that she championed. She could have respected the stewardship in Alaska that the voters entrusted her with enough to stick around in uncertain economic times. Palin completed roughly three years of her term under the stress of withering attacks from the national media, a vice-presidential bid, and legal challenges from her home state. If she didn’t owe Alaska one more year, she owed Alaska a better explanation that she gave in her resignation speech.
RightOFLeft on July 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Most of the electorate are neither her friends or enemies. Where does that leave them?
ProfessorMiao on July 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Key is that she is not playing to the pundits or Washington insiders… shes playing to the folks who are angry at the Washington elites who are destroying America.
So, I think she knew exactly how the press would spin this… in both directions…
I think this is a case of cauterizing a wound… hurts for a bit, but better in the long run.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM
thatthan she gave in her resignation speech. One freaking letter really changes the meaning.RightOFLeft on July 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Are you trying to make a point?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Those were her supporters anyway.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Um, she was not on the National Radar until LAST YEAR.
Thats when the vultures descended. Thats when the attacks began. Thats when the opposition research all started.
Troopergate was the one semi viable attack on her I’ve seen… it did need to be investigated… but some of them are for things like making speeches out of state, or wearing a Logon on her Jacket… and the really frivalous ones only started when she became a National figure.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Some were… but under the current political climate, and ethic laws, she would have had to answer an ethics complaint for every time she went out of state to make a speech to those folks.
Anytime she made a speech on a National issue… especialy one that could be viewed as anti Alaska (through a partisan prism), it would be another lawsuit.
Time out taken to write her book? Ethics complaint as she would not be doing Alaskas business while writing that book… and heaven forbid she should write any of it on a Gov computer or in the Gov’s mansion… or… shudder… using Gov sticky notes to make notes for her book…
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM
AZ Gov Janet Napolitano QUIT her job. Of course it was to take a job offered by Obambi. But that made it ok to walk out on her “promise” to the voters of AZ. I guess it’s about what job you take, if you have a definitive job lined up, who thinks it’s ok, whether or not your a Dem or Rep, etc…
People are just making up reasons to be ticked off by this.
mauioriginal on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Will her record reflect that she hasn’t been able to govern effectively since she came to national prominence?
Now that she’s given her reasons, it would be interesting to see how much time and expense each of those complaints actually posed. If “troopergate” (I hate scare-quotes, but I hate the “-gate” formulation worse) took up the bulk of her legal resources, what reason did she have to assume that her opponents could keep finding substantial claims to pursue against her? There’s an ugly implication there — that I don’t believe, but the national media will be sure to explore eventually — that she avoided a bigger complaint she saw looming in the next year.
RightOFLeft on July 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM
In this day and age, one needn’t leave a state in order to address those who live in a different one.
And I’d agree that governors shouldn’t use company things for personal use, but that doesn’t mean she couldn’t work on a book. Everyone has some kind of downtime. It’s not as though she was barred from taking a vacation.
But still, I don’t see anything in these actions that would endear her to anyone but those who already like her. It’s not just Republicans and Democrats who think her resignation was likely a bad idea. And that alone will hurt her more than her not being able to travel to Ohio.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM
You’re saying she could have run for President as Gov. of Alaska without leaving Alaska?
Missy on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM
We are a nation of lemmings. Excuse me while I bang my head against the wall. I’m not stupid but I’m starting to think it may be more peaceful that way.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I’m all for giving her a chance to make her own mistakes. Criticizing her at this point, when nothing can be done to change the outcome, will certainly make future mistakes more probable. On the other hand, perhaps I am giving those voices criticizing her too much credit.
genso on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Esthier, are you happy with the way this country is being run?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM
No, not at all. I’m saying that she could talk to other states without leaving hers. Running for president is something else altogether. She’s not running now. Even if she’s planning on it, she won’t start until well after her term would have been over anyway.
Maybe we are, but that’s who she has to win over.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Of course not. Though I was happy with the way some of it was being run. I’m beyond disappointed that the ones I like are the ones stepping down when I feel it should be the other way around.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Esthier, do you believe the media is a significant part of the problem?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Significant? No, not quite that much. Part of the problem though? Yes.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Esthier, do you believe the republicans in power share the blame with the democrats in power for the conditions that exist?
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Point is that someone would have made an ethics complaint about it…
And then every minute, of every day, would have had to be documented, and then depositions taken… as she COULD have used some gov time to write the book…
Remember, under the current rules it does not have to be a rational complaint… ANY complaint has to be investigated, at State expense.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM
cross examine much, prosperity?
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Not really. Her term would have ended in January 2011. That *might* be enough time to put an exploratory committee together, make the necessary hires, etc. etc., but I doubt it. (For comparison purposes, Obama officially announced his 2008 campaign in January 2007, but it was widely known before then that he was running.) If she tried to do any of that while a sitting governor, she’d get hit with at least a dozen ethics complaints about it, from the way things have been going.
I think you also said earlier – please correct me if I’m wrong – that ideally you’d like to see her serve two terms as AK Gov. before running for President. So with that in mind, let’s say she won re-election. The next term wouldn’t be up until January 2015. Notwithstanding the amount of money she would probably owe for the ethics complaints between now and then, that’s just about too late to put a 2016 campaign together.
The fact is she is completely tied down by the ethics complaints and there were dozens in the pipeline. The goal was to pin her down in AK and make her ineffective and it succeeded. She can’t even leave the state w/o incurring thousands of dollars in legal fees. Do you really think she could have done anything else at all if she was fighting those all the time? What would her personal legal bills look like? They are upwards of $500K now and as Gov. she has almost no way of raising money to pay them short of begging for donations.
Sorry, kinda long, but I really think there are a lot of people that don’t understand what her situation has been.
Missy on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM
I became even more convinced she was making a smart move when I took time to go read all the ethics filings. There was a clear and obvious pattern of sabotage. They would have continued to file, continued to derail her administration, and the strategy was to make it impossible to defend. “Where there’s smoke there’s fire” thinking would have settled in.
She either had to get out now or never.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM
It’s clear to me that the strategy has now failed. They overplayed their hand.
*hehe
Typical of people who destroy, they just couldn’t resist piling on.
When you read the complaints, you have to absolutely laugh.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Don’t distract the witness.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM
That’s my attitude. Why worry about the punditry? They are part of the problem in this country. Everyone seems to want someone to tell them what they should think!
I’m all for hearing varying opinions, but they all write today with such conviction about the consequences of this or that. It doesn’t really take an egghead to realize that they are blowing smoke.
When I see a piece that weighs pros and cons, I usually pay attention. That is someone who is actually thinking and not pretending to know it all.
The rest? They are amateur thinkers, getting paid. But I’ve read better posts by mere bloggers a lot of the time.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM
How did you go from being a liberal to being reasonable so quickly? They are mutually exclusive characteristics.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Esthier, where are you? Come on, I’m trying to make a point here.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Oh… crap… we agree on somthing…
/looks at his remote sensor system readout… checks the cable on the back marked 3rd plane of Perdition…
Yep… it is getting pretty cold down there.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM
LOL…Obama started running in August 2004. He was being bankrolled long before that.
ddrintn on July 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM
*hehe
I try to keep you guys entertained, anyway.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM
You’re right; she was facing financial ruin and constant harassment. And it’s not like the RNC was going to do much to help.
ddrintn on July 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I know, but I was trying to stick with official dates. ;) At any rate, Jan. 2011 is way too late to begin putting together a 2012 campaign.
Missy on July 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I’m still not clear on why it’s better to be a celebrity and keep an elected job in obvious name only a la Obama, than to do the honest thing and hand things off to capable hands and step down to pursue greater things.
I would love for Ed or Allah to explain this to me in a post. Thanks in advance.
LibTired on July 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM
To me, it’s simple. She couldn’t just follow traditional thought. She has too much star power.
Ann Coulter nailed this one. She said that was obvious, so Sarah just decided to move on out and ignore the traditionalists.
Today, apparently, she smiling and saying, “If I die, I die.”
Good response, in my opinion, to the critics.
Better than my response would be, which would be more like, “Mind your own business, buddy.”
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM
I think, more than anything, Palin’s resignation has served to flush out those remaining who were applauding her in public and cursing her in private. Because they didn’t understand her appeal in the first place, they didn’t realize that those of us who “get” Palin would not be flung into the pits of despair by this development.
I tend to agree with the chap who said that many of today’s political pundits have no idea how to deal with someone who tells the truth. We expect and accept that our politicians will lie when the truth would serve as well. We accept it because we think it’s okay, as long as they’re discrete about it. What if it isn’t okay? What if there’s an alternative to a serial liar?
Immolate on July 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM
If they do nothing to stop them, then yes. Otherwise, no.
Which is a problem in and of itself, one I don’t think she’ll be able to fight better as a private citizen.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM
I realize that. Don’t worry. If I can avoid it, I don’t leave in the middle of a conversation.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:38 PM
A lot of the pundits will not cut Palin a break no matter what, but Michael Barone is a straight shooter, a numbers man.
I am not sure what Palin is doing here myself, but it is her decision and I am willing to leave it at that. In fact I am not sure that Palin wants to run in 2012, I think she might have somthing else in mind.
Terrye on July 6, 2009 at 4:38 PM
These rules are for the Government, as a private citizen she is not covered by them at all.
Yes, she may have to answer for PAST ethics complaints, like the 15 she has already been cleared of… but…
As a sitting Gov she can only take contribution of $150 per person for her legal defense fund… as a private citizen that cap does not exist.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Interesting tidbit….thanks. But I read the complaints. They were digging the bottom of the well for the ones they cooked up. Mostly it was about conflict of interest stuff, which is now moot.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:41 PM
I think you misunderstood my point. I don’t mean her fighting her own battles but rather the fight against frivolous lawsuits in the first place.
No one else should have to go through what she did.
I realize that the toll to her and her family was something that most of us wouldn’t put up with if asked. I know people were expecting something from her that they wouldn’t give themselves. But that’s the way with politicians, especially those who aspire to be president.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM
I don’t know what the future may hold for Palin, but I celebrate the fact that she drives her most loathsome critics absolutely insane. Even if she doesn’t make it to the goal line, certainly she can run interference for someone worthy of the score.
littleguy on July 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I agree and if you read her statement, I think that’s just what she is planning to do.
Missy on July 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM
So the point I’m trying to make is that most of us don’t like the way the country is being run, most of us hold both republicans and democrats to blame (although for different actions or inactions) and most of us know that the media is not on our side. Yet so many here seem willing to swallow hook, line and sinker the “conventional wisdom” which is dictated to us by the people we hold responsible for the state of things. Anyone who doesn’t think it is us against them is not looking close enough.
The truth of the matter is, this country was built on heroes doing the “unconventional”. Our history is full of people leaving the comfort zone and yes, leaving seeming responsibilities, to accomplish a greater goal. That is called courage and vision.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Just never ceases to amaze me how many elite pundits and pols, just don’t get it. And never will until it smacks them in the face. I love it.
ultracon on July 6, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Truer words were never written. I join you in that celebration. Here’s hoping the insanity goes viral amongst them.
genso on July 6, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I didn’t agree on all those points. The media, for one, shouldn’t be on any side. That it’s not on the GOP’s is generally good for it in the long run. I think it’s a large part of why our arguments make sense and their’s do not.
As to our politicians, I only hold those responsible for this mess who do nothing. Palin wasn’t one of them and I believe could have done so much more from her post if she’d stayed there instead of leaving it.
I don’t find her leaving it to be courageous. The harder thing would have been to stay. She even acknowledged that in her speech.
It’s never been unconventional to fight for your own independence. The way we went about it, sure, was different, but ultimately we followed a fairly traditional path. That was always Palin’s strength, that she followed traditional paths through unconventional means.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Very good point… Conventional wisdom said rebelling against the Super Power that was Britain was impossible at the time… as demonstrated by the LACK of governments recognizing our country for years after the decleration.
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Thanks! Been away on a lovely vacation but curious to see what the buzz was on HA over this. Apparently the response has been similar to the screaming children on my flight today. Didn’t the man currently in office vote present while he skipped around the world campaigning instead of representing the people of Illinois as he was elected to do? It seems to me that Sarah Palin is proving herself to be an honest person who isn’t willing to sacrifice Alaska for the sake of her political future – no matter what her plans are! A vacation is a wonderful thing – many of you sound like you need one!
redwhiteblue on July 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM
I’m sympathetic to Palin, because I think women need to forge their own paths. Later, it will look completely logical to others.
I was in corporate management in the 70’s, and everytime I followed traditional thinking, it didn’t work. Everytime I found my backbone and did what was obviously my own next step, it worked.
So I think I’m definitely seeing the gender issues in this debate.
AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Conventional wisdom was correct. Without France, we would have lost.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 5:03 PM
No no no no. You are dangerously wrong! They are supposed to be on our side, the Peoples side. They are supposed to be our ears and eyes. And they are not. They decided what they want us to hear, what they want us to see. They are on the side of our rulers.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Hmmm… as if there are some secret codes in these transcripts. I thought Sarah was no more politics as usual…
Upstater85 on July 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I’m going back to banging my head against the wall.
peacenprosperity on July 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM
No, they’re on the side of the Democrats, no matter who is in power, and that’s a problem. They shouldn’t be supporting either Democrat or Republican, which is exactly what I meant by being on no one’s side.
They should report the news, whatever that is. If it hurts a Republican, so be it. If it hurts a Democrat, so be it.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM
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