Examiner vs Examiner on Palin

posted at 12:05 pm on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Ever since Sarah Palin announced her resignation from office, conservatives have debated on the merits of the choice, including in the lengthy comment threads at Hot Air.  Even the Washington Examiner, one of the leading new lights of conservative media, has found itself at odds internally over Palin’s actions.  Editorial page editor and longtime conservative stalwart Mark Tapscott says that conventional wisdom cannot explain Palin:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s announcement of her resignation cannot be read in terms of the conventional wisdom of politics -  i.e. that she’s getting out ahead of some damaging political revelation she knows is right around the corner, she’s fed up with the constant personal attacks on her and her family, or she’s running for president in 2012 and wants to be free of the constraints of office.

A close reading of her actual words in her announcement reveals otherwise. The key fact about Palin is that she is not a conventional politician. She actually means what she says, which is why her statement must be read in light of that fact, not that she has ulterior motives. …

Palin is embarking on an independent path in nationa politics that, if she is successful, will lead to a new third force. Not necessarily a third party, but definitely a populist insurrection that could reshape American politics for years to come. Does the Tea Party Protests movement come to mind?

Prisoners of conventional wisdom almost certainly will miss the significance of Palin’s decision. But they’ve never understood why she struck such a powerful chord with everyday Americans in 2008, so we ought not be surprised that this announcement is [completely] beyond their ability to understand what is really happening.

Chris Stirewalt, the political editor at the Examiner, says that Tapscott’s missing the point.  Palin’s problem has been the incessant drama, and that this only adds to her credibility problem with the majority of the electorate:

Sarah Palin learned a lot of things in her time as John McCain’s running mate — about the savagery of the media; about the duplicity of politicos; about her own gifts as a politician.

But she did not learn the most important lesson of 2008: no drama. …

David Letterman’s gross, unfunny joke about Palin’s teenage daughter, the ongoing skirmish among the former McCainiacs and the frivolous ethics complaints against her by Democratic hacks are all just part of life for Palin these days. But rather than rising above the squalor, Palin has fully engaged on each point. She stayed in the headlines blasting washed-up Letterman for days, continued to dish about the failings of McCain’s campaign and quit office blaming the ethics complaints for her departure.

There is always a lot of sound and fury around Palin, but does it signify anything other than her status as a celebrity?

Michael Barone, who is, well, Michael Barone, just throws his hands in the air:

I was astonished by Sarah Palin’s announcement that she is going to resign as Governor of Alaska. I’ve read over her “point guard” explanation for doing so, and I still don’t get it. She’s says he going to advance the causes she believes in by leaving public office? She will evidently leave office with only 16 months to go in her term (she says she’ll resign July 26 and Alaska governors take office in December); why not serve out the 16 months? It’s not that long a time. …

Some are hailing her resignation as a political masterstroke. I’m just puzzled. How does resigning as governor strengthen her as a presidential candidate?

All of these have elements of the truth.  If all Palin wants to be is a speaker and activist, then her resignation as governor of Alaska won’t hurt her at all.  Thanks to her notoriety, Palin will attract crowds and media wherever she goes and whatever she does.  If she chooses to be chair of the Tea Party Movement, I suspect most would be happy to grant her the title, and she’d be effective at it.

If, however, Palin wants to pursue national office rather than just be an activist for the rest of her life, her resignation will prove a very messy hurdle.  Alaskans trusted her with their higher office on the assumption that she would take it seriously enough to complete the term.  Voters would have understood if she had to resign in January to become Vice President, but because — in her own words — she didn’t want to deal with governing as a “lame duck.”  The first question in any campaign debate for Palin from now on will be, “Will you quit in the middle of a presidential term if you get disenchanted or get ethics complaints filed against you?”

Palin’s supporters might think that resigning is a brilliant strategic stroke, but those are by far not enough to get her elected President, as the last election pretty clearly showed.  Palin needed to build a sober resumé as an executive, someone who could show that the media had her all wrong — someone, as Stirewalt points out, could have her substance eclipse her celebrity.  Palin needed to build a broader base, not narrow it down to the true believers, and she had an opportunity to do that by finishing out her term in the tough conditions of an economic downturn.  Instead, she resigned to leverage her celebrity, which will not convince current non-believers and political agnostics of her substance.  Instead, it gives them even more reason to distrust Palin.

In the end, perhaps the two sides of the Palin debate have talked past each other for the last few days.  If Palin wants to be freed up to give speeches and focus on the faithful, her resignation will not dim those possibilities at all.  If she plans to advance in national office, though, she has to address the “conventional” as well as the unconventional to win national office, and resigning halfway through a first term is no way to go about it.

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I’d suggest the same to you, but you seem to think you’re doing the right thing by railing on Jet and blatant.

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

I’m not railing on anyone — blatant keeps misrepresenting Palin supporters, and Jet, well, is Jet (an Obamaite).

Funny how you do not point out their mischaracterizations and denials.

Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Clever sleight of hand — didn’t he have help? With those nefarious influences in his life, and he got away with it?

Imagine if Sarah Palin had this class of characters in her life — do you really think she would get away with it? Have you looked at the ethics complaints? All completely foolish, and a terrible waste of taxpayers’ money.

You view the world through the Obama sunglasses you bought at the rallies.

Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM

First off, you can quit with the “Obama” stuff re: me. I’m the furthest thing from an Obama fan you’ll ever meet.

But I’m not afraid to criticize my own party when I feel they’re doing wrong. That does not make me some Obama fan.

Sure, Oba had lots of help…from the media, pundits, etc. And for sure, Palin, or any Republican, wouldn’t get away with a tenth of the crud the Democrats do. That’s the way it is, unfortunately. We have to work harder.

You need to stop with the “but they did it” stuff, and focus on what we can do to win over the majority of the American people.

Your negativity certainly isn’t helping.

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

The decision to resign is only “senseless” if you assume she wants to run for President. I don’t assume that. I just don’t think we know. She gave a good explanation of her reasons, but no specific statement about a bid for the WH.

Hence we must wait and see.

I support her regardless because I think she did what she thought was right for her family. So far as I know, politicians are still human beings.

Missy on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Many, many people have been speculating that she was going to be the top 2012 contender, and suggested this immediately upon her resignation.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Kind of an aside, but some of those now suggesting she “was going to be the top 2012 contender” sure resisted saying those words before her resignation, didn’t they?

cs89 on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Is there some type of Palin mania?

Why is Palin stepping down bad for you all? It might be good?

Ugh… can’t the Alaskans take a moment to gather what we are losing before the speculation of her political career, life, family… and where abouts go. We have parnell and the new LT Gov who is from our National Guard. Yet we still have the RINO’s and other problem children aka the AK Legilators and Senators here.

Let us breath before you freak. M-Kay?

BTW I think this is a fine decision. I didn’t freak out.. and neither should any of you!

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

orange on July 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Just go back to Kos.

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I will not seek re-election as Governor.

And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn’t run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, … And then I thought – that’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting Alaska through that – I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? ….

It’s not what is best for Alaska.

I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is unconventional and not so comfortable.

what is not to understand ? Perhaps most people are comfortable with conventional choices and steps, and this choice is uncomfortable for the conventional mind.

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

She can either handle it, or she can’t.

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Yep. Either you take her at her word, and she’s not fit for the presidency, or you don’t take her at her word. It’s not good in either case.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I said hello, Mitty,……well, hello, Mitty
Its so nice to have you back where you belong
Youre lookin swell, Mitty…….i can tell, Mitty
Youre still glowin…youre still crowin…youre still goin strong
I feel the party swayin……while the media is playin
One of its favorite memes from way back when
So….. take his coat, fellas…….find him a microphone, fellas
Mittyll never go away again

(instrumental break)

I said hello, Mitty,…..well, hello, Mitty
Its so nice to have you back where you belong
Youre lookin swell, Mitty…..i can tell, Mitty
Youre still glowin…youre still crowin…youre still goin strong
I feel the party swayin…while the media keeps on playin
One of its favourite memes from way back when
So…golly, gee, fellas….find Mitt an empty microphone, fellas
Mittyll never go away….i said Mitty’ll never go away
Mittyll never go away again

Mr. Joe on July 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM

what is not to understand ? Perhaps most people are comfortable with conventional choices and steps, and this choice is uncomfortable for the conventional mind.

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Why? What do you have to worry about?

Nothing…

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I was just thinking that they’re probably betting on how fast a thread goes down in flames.

moonsbreath on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Seeing how Ed’s tweet at the time of this entry posting was something to the effect of “All hell breaks loose on Hot Air”, I’d say Ed (and AP) know exactly what they’re doing.

Which is what actually bugs me the most about this whole Palin episode. I get the feeling that AP and Ed’s point here is merely to use Palin as a wedge issues b/w competing sides of HA readers as an attempt to drive up traffic. But, as I’ve said a million times on this site (ok, probably only a few dozens), how does that help conservatives? I get that Ed wants to write for a popular site (who wouldn’t) but shouldn’t you also want to get the best candidates to the finish line? Killing good yet seemingly nascent candidates isn’t helping the party.

LastRick on July 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM

People listened to her speech. People who regularly dissect speeches of candidates on both sides and whittle them down to speech molecules listened to her speech.

And they missed everything. That’s what people are complaining about. But you already defended that by saying that the speech wasn’t important, just the resignation.

It still didn’t make sense. This is unprecedented. Politicians, historically, have only stepped down from high office when there was some sort of serious family emergency, or some major scandal was waiting to break.

So what if it was unprecedented? That can’t be your serious argument (though the analysis of Ed and others doesn’t really leave much else to hold onto, I guess).

Many, many people have been speculating that she was going to be the top 2012 contender, and suggested this immediately upon her resignation. In response, bloggers wondered how many other presidential candidates quit their posts almost 4 years before the next presidential election.

You haven’t quite the situation with any sort of accuracy. Most of the bloggers and pundits missed everything and did cr@ppy analyses.

She gave an answer that is dubious. Can you accept that?

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I have no problem with people questioning her move, but I would like to see that they are making that assessment based on all of the information that was available. That is not what happened – as you proved, yourself, by trying to claim that her broadsides against the administration (clearly indicating what she was intending, though not how) were insignificant since she resigned.

Okay, you think that unprecedented action is stupid, because it is unprecedented. Remind me never to let you be in charge of anything important.

progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM

The drama, or commotion, around Palin is in part due to the fact that conservatives like her–no, they really like her–and they make a fuss anytime she pops up on tv. This is a good thing, Mr. Stirewalt. The rest of the GOP would kill for this type of attention.

The other aspect of the Palin drama–the incessant leaking and rumormongering by her political opponents in the GOP is not of her making. The weasels in the Beltway GOP and their weasel mouthpieces in the press, are the authors of this drama, and the explicit purpose was to drive her out. I won’t forget it, either.

james23 on July 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I’m sorry but name a candidate for whom the above is not true.

What you have described is politics my friend. It is dirty and nasty.

But it beats having a Monarchy.

But in fact the only ones who survive national politics must have a drive for power. I’m not sure Palin really has that drive at this point in her life. I do think that she may in the future when it is only her they go after and not her innocent children.

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM

She gave an answer that is dubious. Can you accept that?
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

They can’t accept it. It’s much more fun to ignore the obvious and throw Ed, AP and the rest of the pundits under the bus.

***ducking out of the conversation before I become labeled a troll**

Knucklehead on July 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM

nevermind. you DIDNT watch her speech. you probably just read ‘commentary’ on huffo or dailykos

battleoflepanto1571 on July 6, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Honestly, this attitude is not helpful. You know that almost everyone posting today actually voted for Sarah. And probably would again. So when you throw around accusations against people who are basically supportive, but remain unconvinced that she knows what she is doing… that is just not going to win anyone over.

I have read a lot of Palin threads and I have never heard anyone on our side say the stuff about her they do on the lefty threads. I think you go after us because you can’t post on the sites that really go after her.

You are beating up Sarah’s allies. That really doesn’t make a great deal of sense.

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

This, +10.

It’s more than a little disconcerting to see those who merely question the wisdom of Palin’s resignation called “elitist”, disparage “messiah pundits” like Ed and Ace, and basically say anyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support Sarah Palin is a RINO and not a true conservative.

I like Sarah Palin. I want her to do well. I didn’t think her premature resignation helps her, but we’ll have to see. Meanwhile, belief in the person should not outweigh belief in the ideals. I’m seeing a disturbing “don’t question Sarah” crowd that is a mere shade of the cult of personality that follows the One. It stems from an admirable desire to defend her against the unfair attacks levelled against her personally, but when it’s verboten to question her on strategy and policy, that’s when it starts getting a little dicey.

No one here has called Sarah Palin “slutty”, “redneck”, “stupid”, “incapable” or any of the other epithets the left raised against her. But asking whether this was the right move earns you “Shut up” and insinuations that you must be a squishy moderate or must secretly love Obama.

It’s rude BS, and I’m quite frankly sick of seeing it. Sarah Palin is a decent person with a ton of political charisma, but she has not proved herself to be the Savior of America to ride forth on a white horse of conservatism. Honestly, the behavior of her supporters is making it harder for me to strongly get behind her myself.

Wellsy on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

If she plans to advance in national office, though, she has to address the “conventional” as well as the unconventional to win national office, and resigning halfway through a first term is no way to go about it.

translation: GOP to SArah “you need us. No really, you do, you really need us.”

Please.

james23 on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Smiles…

Looks at the commenters and chuckles….

You all are over reacting to something that has nothing to do with you. This isn’t about the Nation. Yet!

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM

why do I have to worry about what ?

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Had some time to think on this and to me it boils down to a very simple thing.

Alaska’s Ethics laws are so stringent that she could NOT effectivly fight the Obama onslaught to our libertys and way of life, and remain Gov of Alaska.

And we don’t have 16 months. Obamas Assault on America is happening NOW. Cap and Trade. Takeover of Companies. New Regulation of the economy. Energy policy (ie, the getting rid of all viable energy sources). Health care “reform”.

These fights are all happening NOW! And there is NO REAL CONSERVATIVE DEFENSE to fight against this assault.

I think she sees this to… and.. I hope… she will be able to organize SOME resistance to the Obama Jugernaut… becaue the GOP is on Epic Fail mode.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

She gave an answer that is dubious. Can you accept that?
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Why do you care? If it is so dubious to you, disregard it and move on. Why come here and challenge others beliefs? Do you have an agenda?

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

why do I have to worry about what ?

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Exactly. WTF do you have to worry about?

Nothing. Is she your Gov? No, unless you are an Alaskan.

Are you? I doubt it.

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Sarah is no good because Alinskyites attack her.
Stirewalt says Sarah’s reaction to the onslaught of abuse was too steeped in drama to please him. I think he wants her to act as if those are someone else’s kids. But if she could do that we wouldn’t be having this discussion. A lot of the reason she has so many followers is just how she differs from the norm in such things. She is not a perpetual office seeker that has accessory kids kept somewhere. She obviously would put her kids and Todd ahead of almost anything. So sorry to all the RINOs and lefties who feel that reality and family is a little creepy and hard to take. But I like seeing a public figure whose values can be read from her actions instead the latest edit and update of endless empty promises.

snaggletoothie on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 1:05 PM

i chose the word bigfoot when describing the ever glamorous and beautiful michelle obama because i was thinking of her f-cked up body, namely her atrocious lower half ( not to mention her face). plus, being a fictional character fits with the fictional birth certificate obama put up on his site. thank you and enjoy your day! =)

Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

…resigning halfway through a first term is no way to go about it.

Not halfway…at least 2/3, depending on how you look at it.

New gov is elected in Nov. 2010. That’s 16 months away. She’s served 30 since being elected, plus the two as “governor-elect”.

You would prefer her to stay in office and vote “present”? Of course not.

Then you must believe she should stay in office to the detriment of the people of Alaska. No?

Then you must be taking issue with that being the reason she is resigning. She said it was. Yet you have offered no argument specifically to the contrary on that point.

When you address what she said, without using the subjective term “rambling”, then I will take you seriously on the subject. Until then, I’m shopping for a blog that has two ears, as well as a mouth.

Manly Rash has a good alternate take on the situation, for those who care to take a look.

connertown on July 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

These fights are all happening NOW! And there is NO REAL CONSERVATIVE DEFENSE to fight against this assault.

John Boehner is doing a heck of a job fighting for us in the House.

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

I am about 1 more Hot Air Palin post from deleting this site from my bookmarks. Maybe Ed and Allah should take a vacation from posting on anything Palin related for a while lest they continue pissing off the dwindling readership any further.

outOfElement on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM

You should`nt leave just because you don`t agree with this article. Hot Air is here to offer many opinions, being individuals is what sets our Nation apart Yes?

LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Funny how you do not point out their mischaracterizations and denials.

Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Sorry to butt in again… but it is hard to point out what isn’t there.

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

I venture to say that the problem people have with her speech is that we have become so used to having to read between the lines when a politician speaks that no one can take words at face value anymore. Yes, she was no specific, and chose not to use that platform to announce any future pans. Remember, she had the LG right next to her that would speak next.

HoustonRight on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Exactly. WTF do you have to worry about?

Nothing. Is she your Gov? No, unless you are an Alaskan.

Are you? I doubt it.

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I am starting to worry about you, dear…did your reading comprehension get blown off at the 4th of July fireworks ?

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I have no problem with people questioning her move, but I would like to see that they are making that assessment based on all of the information that was available. That is not what happened – as you proved, yourself, by trying to claim that her broadsides against the administration (clearly indicating what she was intending, though not how) were insignificant since she resigned.

progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM

That’s because her broadsides had nothing to do with her resignation, at all. How hard is that to figure out? People are analyzing her resignation, and this was her resignation speech. Any red meat is simply an after-dinner mint after a big meal of mystery meat.

You are trying to deflect attention to the same criticisms she’s been sporadically giving about Obama for the last few months. They are completely irrelevant and immaterial to the reasons for her unexpected and shocking choice to abandon her elected position mid-term.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Wellsy on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better.

Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Perhaps she just decided to put family first. The whacky-tobbacies were not going to let up on her or her kids, so she decided that enough is enough to protect them….

Also think……. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$… book deal, lecture circuit, etc… etc… The plains are far from wealthy… yet..

RaisinsofWrath on July 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I’m not railing on anyone — blatant keeps misrepresenting Palin supporters, and Jet, well, is Jet (an Obamaite).

Funny how you do not point out their mischaracterizations and denials.

Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Actually, you’re only proving blatant’s point, not negating it, especially with your BS about Jet. The man was a huge McCain supporter in the primaries. It’s his cross to bear really, and I rarely hesitate to give him crap for it, but he’s no Obama supporter.

You talk about blatant’s generalizations when engaging in so many of your own that you lose all credibility.

I’m not seeing theirs. But then I treat them like people, not caricatures.

It’s noon where I’m at, so all we need is drinks to make this a party!

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Serve it up, Madison. I’ll take a double.

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Why do you care? If it is so dubious to you, disregard it and move on. Why come here and challenge others beliefs? Do you have an agenda?

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Telling me to shut up if I don’t like what she’s doing?

You’re one of a number to do that in the last couple of days.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

JetBoy on July 6, 2009

you love Obama
this I know
because Richard has told me so

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

You should`nt leave just because you don`t agree with this article. Hot Air is here to offer many opinions, being individuals is what sets our Nation apart Yes?

LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

It’s one thing to pull off a bandage and show someone your scab….it’s quite another to let them continue to pick at ad infinitum.

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Wrong, The family will be in the white house…….

TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Yeah, so um…was the speech good…bad…”great re-write”…”sucks ass”, what? Someone tell me something. :p The whole point was feedback, not hits on the blog (honest to God).

LiquidH2O on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

I am starting to worry about you, dear…did your reading comprehension get blown off at the 4th of July fireworks ?

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Are you kidding?

You are acting like this is the end of the world. Why?

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Sarah’s priorities are: family and faith first with Alaska in third.

She had decided not to run for re-election (see family and faith first). We can all speculate on the details and reasoning. Everything else follows this decision.

If not running for re-election, then her question was what was best for Alaska?? If she stayed through the end of her term, then the corrupt GOP that she has successful run against would nominate someone who would try very hard to undo a lot of the things she had changed. Her Lt Gov may not be a charismatic as her, but follows her in the policy area. This will give him 16 monhts to show that he can be governor. The old GOP party will have a struggle to beat the new governor “IF” he does a good job.

Recently, she got the natural gas pipeline finally approved. Most of her major goals as governor have been completed.

Speculation on her future – support conservative causes.

ny59giants on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Serve it up, Madison. I’ll take a double.

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Double white russian for the hot blonde midget. Next?

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

These are serious times calling for serious candidates. Palin will never be that candidate if she can’t get beyond the tabloid furor over her personal life.

Is this a self made furor, or one conveniently hung around Palin’s neck by a media/saboteurs who want Palin out of politcs for life? Calling her a drama queen, when she obviously doesn’t want the drama is ridiculous. Her resigning from the Governors office shows this. The drama was hurting her office, the state, and her family.

So is Sanford the Drama King because he cheated on his wife, won’t shut up about it, keeps spouting off about his conquests and won’t resign? Yes. Yes he is. His is self made drama.

portlandon on July 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Wrong, The family will be in the white house…….

TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

And they couldn’t move inside their own state?

Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

HoustonRight on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I have no problem with her speech, she said what needed to be said.

runner on July 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Telling me to shut up if I don’t like what she’s doing?

You’re one of a number to do that in the last couple of days.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Nice try but don’t put words in my mouth. In fact, I’m trying to get you to explain your reasoning more than you have. That’s exactly the opposite of telling you to shut up. Try again.

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Madison,

what does that have to do with anything? Both were elected to serve out terms they never served out. Now, it’s perfectly all right not to serve out your term because you have ambitions for higher office, but when you will clearly have no way to affect legislation, that isn’t a good reason.

I,frankly, don’t agree with any of the three, but let’s end all the hypocrisy. If Palin “quit” then so did the last two presidents. I don’t see how it’s all right for Obama and Bush to quit their posts because they want to be president, but it’s not all right for Palin to quit because she will ultimately no longer be effective.

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

If Palin finished out her term, the Libs would have continued to file ethics complaints. If she has $500,000 in legal fees now, that number could easily be over 1 million by the end of the term. Plus she was going to be able to get much done if she had to spend time defending herself from these ethic charges.

So she could stay on as governor, not get a lot accomplished, and have 1 million in legal fees or she could change the way the game is being played. I think her move was brilliant.

huckleberryfriend on July 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I trust Sarah Palin*

*I also trusted Mark Sanford.

SouthernGent on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Why do you care if she “quit”? WTF does this have to do with you?

Why not let the Alaskans worry about it…

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Nice try but don’t put words in my mouth. In fact, I’m trying to get you to explain your reasoning more than you have. That’s exactly the opposite of telling you to shut up. Try again.

?

Retroactive reasoning is a real kicker.

Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You talk about blatant’s generalizations when engaging in so many of your own that you lose all credibility.

And the thing is
I’m not generalizing

one can go back to the threads and look

look at how many people call folks like me or madcon or ap or Ed or krauthammer

sexist
elitist
misogynist
squishy
not a real con
etc etc
snobs
MSM drones

all it takes is one gloss over the palin headlines and threads

and I say this not because I’m hurt by it — I’m not
but because it’s RIDICULOUS

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Sarah Palin did what was best for Alaska. She can’t be an effective leader when she is a walking Lib target. Wasting taxpayer’s money ($2M and counting) is NOT her – a true fiscal Conservative.

She meant what she said when she quoted MacArthur, “…advancing, in a new direction….” She will work to advance Conservative values, period.

Her analogy of a point guard is spot-on: she is keeping her eye on the ball, knowing when to pass so that the team can score.

Why all the speculation? Because the media can’t stand someone with principles, who says what he/she means!

BTW – how do we go about changing THAT?! The MSM is going to take down ANYONE who they see as a threat to O. It’s time to stop whining and figure out ways to take on our so-called “unbiased” Pravda-Goebbels-Propaganda MSM, the controllers of the message (they seem awfully smug, taking credit for Sarah’s fall, don’t you think?).

DINORight on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Wow!! Looks like Plains announcement has split the GOP in two. I for one am glad. I hope she blows the whole framework up. Some of you Palin haters should keep bugging AP and Ed to drop the Palin coverage. I would love that myself. I hate to see Palin bring in revenue to them. I doubt they will listen. I am not sure they want a blog that looks like a ghost town. When is everyone on both sides going to realize this is a wait and see scenario. No one knows how this plays out. All you have now is everyone pretending to be a political pundit who wants to have their opinions heard. Patience people.

chief on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Stop worrying conservative faithful.

I just found out that a clown quit his job at Air America and just won national office as a US Senator.

If a clown can do it, so can Palin.

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Liberal Republicans detest Palin as they see her as a threat to their perceived position of leading the party. What they need to understand is that they are has been political hacks who, by bi-partisanship, have allowed the democrats to discredit the conservative roots that built the party. Flush the RINOs and rebuild the conservative movement or the liberals with the help of the RINOs will destroy our nation until we won’t even recognize it. Those like Crist, Swartznegger, Graham, etc must GO.

volsense on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Look everyone. She has kept ALL of her promises.

She did exactly what she said she would and ran with McCain for VP… dealing with Ethics and so on.

Why is everyone worried about it?

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

TRAITORS!!!!

DEVIL WORSHIPERS!!!

SATIN !!!

TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 1:17 PM

?

Retroactive reasoning is a real kicker.

Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

?

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:17 PM

look at how many people call folks like me or madcon or ap or Ed or krauthammer

sexist
elitist
misogynist
squishy
not a real con
etc etc
snobs
MSM drones

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Your name is blue and you have been trolling the same tired talking points for 72 hours straight. Go outside. Soak up some sun.

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Thing is, this new “third force” is a segment of the GOP. She’s only going to cause damage to the party if…IF…she decides to run in 2012.

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM

The operative verb is “was,” not “is.” Most of Palin’s supporters are as wary of the GOP as she is. The GOP does not have this segment locked up any more.

james23 on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

That’s because her broadsides had nothing to do with her resignation, at all. How hard is that to figure out?

If that’s what you think then you are just not too swift. Of course her attacks on the administration played a part in her resignation.

People are analyzing her resignation, and this was her resignation speech. Any red meat is simply an after-dinner mint after a big meal of mystery meat.

People are analysing much more than just her act of resignation. Most of the talk is about her future role and how her regination affects it. Do you really not understand this very simple point?

You are trying to deflect attention to the same criticisms she’s been sporadically giving about Obama for the last few months.

Huh? Not at all. And Crap&Trade just passed and is on its way to the Senate to put the final nail in the US economy. But .. I guess that doesn’t matter since … she RESIGNED!! Sheesh.

They are completely irrelevant and immaterial to the reasons for her unexpected and shocking choice to abandon her elected position mid-term.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Just because you are unable to understand the simple relationship, don’t make a bigger fool of yoruself by saying that they are “completely irrelevant and immaterial”. She saw that there is very important work that has to be done – that our nation depends on. This is an added reason for her resignation. Not the main one (her inability to effectively govern due to the outside lawsuits and attacks is the main one) but a very important part of her reasoning.

progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Wellsy on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Yes, and then sometimes I do sympathize with them… I truly don’t think we are done hearing from Sarah. And that is a good good thing. But I also don’t think she is ready to be President, I think it is doubtful she could be ready in 2012.

The points people have made today about the ethics laws in Alaska are valid and provide some context that I really dismissed the night of her speech… It just sounded like sour grapes.

It really could just boil down to:

The freaks have won this battle with the stupidity of the ethics complaints, but the war is still ahead.

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I don’t see how it’s all right for Obama and Bush to quit their posts because they want to be president, but it’s not all right for Palin to quit because she will ultimately no longer be effective.

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Consistency may be a hard concept for some.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

you love Obama
this I know
because Richard has told me so

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM

I guess THIS is me….

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

She could have remained governor and dealt with continued attacks on herself and her family or she could go on the lecture circuit at $25-$50K a pop and make a few million dollars a year.

Sarah Palin has lived out conservative principles most of her adult life. Taking advantage of a business opportunity and selling her image/words on the free market seems to me to be in line with those conservative principles.

rokemronnie on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

If a clown can do it, so can Palin.

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

So friggin surreal.

msmveritas on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Nice try but don’t put words in my mouth. In fact, I’m trying to get you to explain your reasoning more than you have. That’s exactly the opposite of telling you to shut up. Try again.

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM

…I did exactly that, and you responded by accusing me of having an agenda, and to ignore it if I didn’t like it. Backtrack some more, why don’t you?

what does that have to do with anything? Both were elected to serve out terms they never served out.

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Yes, because they were elected president during their terms. Palin hasn’t.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t quit a job without another already lined up.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

John Boehner is doing a heck of a job fighting for us in the House.

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

And he has been able to stop…. what?

Anything?

I know the deck is stacked against him, but the only way to create an effective defense is on the National Level, and most people have no idea about who he is…

However, I’d bet just about everyone in America knows who Sarah is.

Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

You know what? The naysayers don’t get to decide whether Sarah Palin’s career is over. The establishment of neither major political party get to decide that. She and the voting public do. Based on her continued popularity and the massive disaffection with BOTH parties. No wonder the pundits and professional politicians are in such a dither.

fabrexe on July 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

She did provide an explanation.

Darth Executor on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

“No she said nothing , while she was incoherent and rumbling crazy and divizive .” as it goes.

the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Hey you once said almost those exact words to me!

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Flush the RINOs and rebuild the conservative movement or the liberals with the help of the RINOs will destroy our nation until we won’t even recognize it. Those like Crist, Swartznegger, Graham, etc must GO.

Are you saying Crist, Schwarzenegger, and Graham are all to blame for the sinking of the GOP in the last election? I find that hard to believe.

Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

What is wrong with people here? Look, we all have an opinion about Palin’s motives and future. Do we need to descend into name-calling? Lets see what happens okay? The future will show some of us to be right and some of us to be wrong. The fact remains that with the possibility of her out of GOP politics the remaining field is pretty dismal for republican prospects in 2012. Everyone is pushing Romney, but I have serious doubts that many in the base will show up to vote for him (I say this as one who voted for him). The field as a whole now is nothing more than democrat-lite at this point in time.

KickandSwimMom on July 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You may have missed his point.

a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

I’ve been waiting for your take on this.
I can understand it from the perspective of “saving the money that would otherwise have to be spend defending against frivolous lawsuits,” particularly if she has already accomplished everything she set out to do in office and has confidence in the Lt. governor, but I got the impression that that wasn’t what she said he reasons were.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Thing is, this new “third force” is a segment of the GOP. She’s only going to cause damage to the party if…IF…she decides to run in 2012.

JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Then it is the job of all of the other potential candidates to attempt to win over the “third force”.

myrenovations on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Huh? Not at all. And Crap&Trade just passed and is on its way to the Senate to put the final nail in the US economy. But .. I guess that doesn’t matter since … she RESIGNED!! Sheesh.

progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Weakest…deflection…yet.

What the hell does that have to do with her resignation? You’re trying to address a completely separate issue.

I’ll continue engaging you when you quit desperately trying to redirect attention to something other than the fact that her reasons given for resigning are unprecedented, and make no sense if she has any political future in mind.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

If a clown can do it, so can Palin.

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

a clown did do it. and he is sitting in office right now. well, sometimes he sits in the office. most times he goes out and campaigns for himself, grabs a burger, takes his fugly wife out for dates at your expense, etc.

Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

was at the beach this morning :D going back Lata

but thnx

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Palin was never going to be elected President. Now that I think about it, it wouldn’t have mattered if she was Governor of Alaska for 30 years. The media still would have spun her experience as irrelevant because Alaska is some sort of weird outcast state. Heres hoping for a current unknown for 2012.

Speedwagon82 on July 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Why do you care if she “quit”? WTF does this have to do with you?

Why not let the Alaskans worry about it…

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I keep wondering about that myself. How does her “quitting” hurt someone in New Jersey? She wasn’t their governor. If the people IN Alaska start ‘rising up’ and sing a chorus of ‘abandonment’, then OK. But as for the rest of us, who cares. She didn’t “abandon” me. She didn’t “quit” on me.

I think that ultimately, in 3 years (God willing), people aren’t going to be questioning what she “did” to the people of AK, but what she can do for THEM. If they like what she has to say, they’ll vote for her; if they don’t, they won’t, plain and simple. But yeah, let’s not take her actions “personally”. As if she was leaving our father and our home just to run off and work in Hollywood. *Shakes head*

LiquidH2O on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Here’s a completely different take on Palin from Angelo M. Codevilla on NRO/Corner (he’s a visiting fellow at Princeton). Read carefully — it’s quite positive.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Who cares if she has another job lined up? She has a book deal lined up. Her personal finances are her concerns not yours. What should concern you is her dedication to the people she was elected. If it’s all right for Bush and Obama not to serve out their terms, then why are you having such a problem with Palin not serving out her term. Either you don’t like it when any politician moves on before their time is up, or you are a total hypocrite for only jumping on Palin for doing it.

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

This Powerline piece (a little way down the page) about Palin has made me completely lose respect for that blog

Chiasmos on July 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Yes, but check out the comments on that post–the author, a DC lawyer who has been whining about Palin from the moment she got picked last year–is getting rag-dolled. He can’t buy a friend right now–like many of his beltway colleagues. And don’t forget, those comments are the ones the authors chose to publish. The ones they chose not to publish–who boy!

james23 on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Back to avoiding Gov. Palin threads for me, too many people I admire acting less then admirably. Y’all liked each other last week.

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

To all of you “conservatives” who are belly-aching about Palin being a quitter and that she’s dashed her presidential hopes–who ya gonna vote for in the primaries if she’s running? Romney? Huck? Pawlenty?

Let’s say she wins the nomination. Are you going to vote for Obama because Palin quit as governor of Alaska?

Geniuses.

pugwriter on July 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I am going to say this in bold.. for others to see quickly. It isn’t a let down.

Count, I haven’t even blogged on this yet. Why? because I KNEW that people were going to FREAK out about it.

I was in Wasilla when I saw the KTUU Van over by Palin’s on Lake Lucille and knew somethign was wrong. When I heard the news I decided to stop blogging and watch the party. Why? Because speculation and accusations are going to FLY!

People need to chill out, and watch. There is going to be a lot of crap rising to the top and it isn’t about the “Nation” it isn’t even about “Alaska”, it is about Sarah… moving forward.

Let it be and watch what happens.!

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Hey you once said almost those exact words to me!

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I say it to all the girls :)

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I can understand it from the perspective of “saving the money that would otherwise have to be spend defending against frivolous lawsuits,” particularly if she has already accomplished everything she set out to do in office and has confidence in the Lt. governor, but I got the impression that that wasn’t what she said he reasons were.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

It wasn’t a single reason , it was the combination and the opportunity cost.

the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I’ll continue engaging you when you quit desperately trying to redirect attention to something other than the fact that her reasons given for resigning are unprecedented, and make no sense if she has any political future in mind.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

With all due respect MadisonConservative, it appears from your posts that you have a lot of antipathy towards Palin. If that is true, why are you concerned whether she has a political future or not. Not trying to be snarky, but I get the impression you feel she has flamed-out. Well, okay then you must be relieved – why bother trying to convince others she’s flamed-out? If you are right, it will be apparent in the near future.

KickandSwimMom on July 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

And of course we would believe that someone “Close to Palin” would trash her decision to CNN?

katiejane on July 6, 2009 at 1:26 PM

I can understand it from the perspective of “saving the money that would otherwise have to be spend defending against frivolous lawsuits,” particularly if she has already accomplished everything she set out to do in office and has confidence in the Lt. governor, but I got the impression that that wasn’t what she said he reasons were.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

That is in fact exactly what she said the reasons were.

Missy on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

…I did exactly that, and you responded by accusing me of having an agenda, and to ignore it if I didn’t like it. Backtrack some more, why don’t you?

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Forgive me….I see your reasoning now. You said something a lot of people don’t like and got your feelings hurt.

Of course. And since Palin’s announcement, her worshipers have been switching between calling people like Ed “traitors” to saying they would shut down Hot Air if they had the power, simply because of their opinion that this was a bad move for Palin to make, and that it’s going to hurt her career.

Palin supporters aren’t making these claims, because Ed is a Palin supporter, as am I. Palin acolytes are making these claims, and there are a disturbing number of them that have shown up.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM

genso on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

It is crystal clear from watching Ed’s take on this that he knows very little about Alaska or Sarah Palin

joey24007 on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

LiquidH2O on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I have no problems with it…. as do quite a few commentors who live in Alaska and are conservative that speak in a different blog.

She has KEPT ALL of her Promises to Alaska. Every one of them. So why are people freaking? Alaskans aren’t mad… some wish she would finish out her term. But 90% of us are tired fo the Media and the ethics complaints. So many of us don’t blame her and we all know she is moving forward to others things. Let us hope it is higher on the scale!

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

She stayed in the headlines blasting washed-up Letterman for days,

Some people have a unique ability to misremember history.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

It is crystal clear from watching Ed’s take on this that he knows very little about Alaska or Sarah Palin

joey24007 on July 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Morning Joey….

upinak on July 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Who cares if she has another job lined up? She has a book deal lined up.

mike volpe on July 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I’m sitting here blinking.

With all due respect MadisonConservative, it appears from your posts that you have a lot of antipathy towards Palin.

KickandSwimMom on July 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I don’t. I have a lot of antipathy and bewilderment towards her resignation.

As I’ve said before, I voted for McCain in 2008, and only because of Palin. I’ve stated my support for Palin numerous times. I made my support of her clear on my defunct blog. People can stop with the “you hate her if you don’t support her resignation” crap.

MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Her following gives me pause… odd, I know.

petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:44 PM

And the level of hatred displayed by the anti-Palin people gives medical professionals concern.

katiejane on July 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

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