Examiner vs Examiner on Palin
posted at 12:05 pm on July 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Ever since Sarah Palin announced her resignation from office, conservatives have debated on the merits of the choice, including in the lengthy comment threads at Hot Air. Even the Washington Examiner, one of the leading new lights of conservative media, has found itself at odds internally over Palin’s actions. Editorial page editor and longtime conservative stalwart Mark Tapscott says that conventional wisdom cannot explain Palin:
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s announcement of her resignation cannot be read in terms of the conventional wisdom of politics - i.e. that she’s getting out ahead of some damaging political revelation she knows is right around the corner, she’s fed up with the constant personal attacks on her and her family, or she’s running for president in 2012 and wants to be free of the constraints of office.
A close reading of her actual words in her announcement reveals otherwise. The key fact about Palin is that she is not a conventional politician. She actually means what she says, which is why her statement must be read in light of that fact, not that she has ulterior motives. …
Palin is embarking on an independent path in nationa politics that, if she is successful, will lead to a new third force. Not necessarily a third party, but definitely a populist insurrection that could reshape American politics for years to come. Does the Tea Party Protests movement come to mind?
Prisoners of conventional wisdom almost certainly will miss the significance of Palin’s decision. But they’ve never understood why she struck such a powerful chord with everyday Americans in 2008, so we ought not be surprised that this announcement is [completely] beyond their ability to understand what is really happening.
Chris Stirewalt, the political editor at the Examiner, says that Tapscott’s missing the point. Palin’s problem has been the incessant drama, and that this only adds to her credibility problem with the majority of the electorate:
Sarah Palin learned a lot of things in her time as John McCain’s running mate — about the savagery of the media; about the duplicity of politicos; about her own gifts as a politician.
But she did not learn the most important lesson of 2008: no drama. …
David Letterman’s gross, unfunny joke about Palin’s teenage daughter, the ongoing skirmish among the former McCainiacs and the frivolous ethics complaints against her by Democratic hacks are all just part of life for Palin these days. But rather than rising above the squalor, Palin has fully engaged on each point. She stayed in the headlines blasting washed-up Letterman for days, continued to dish about the failings of McCain’s campaign and quit office blaming the ethics complaints for her departure.
There is always a lot of sound and fury around Palin, but does it signify anything other than her status as a celebrity?
Michael Barone, who is, well, Michael Barone, just throws his hands in the air:
I was astonished by Sarah Palin’s announcement that she is going to resign as Governor of Alaska. I’ve read over her “point guard” explanation for doing so, and I still don’t get it. She’s says he going to advance the causes she believes in by leaving public office? She will evidently leave office with only 16 months to go in her term (she says she’ll resign July 26 and Alaska governors take office in December); why not serve out the 16 months? It’s not that long a time. …
Some are hailing her resignation as a political masterstroke. I’m just puzzled. How does resigning as governor strengthen her as a presidential candidate?
All of these have elements of the truth. If all Palin wants to be is a speaker and activist, then her resignation as governor of Alaska won’t hurt her at all. Thanks to her notoriety, Palin will attract crowds and media wherever she goes and whatever she does. If she chooses to be chair of the Tea Party Movement, I suspect most would be happy to grant her the title, and she’d be effective at it.
If, however, Palin wants to pursue national office rather than just be an activist for the rest of her life, her resignation will prove a very messy hurdle. Alaskans trusted her with their higher office on the assumption that she would take it seriously enough to complete the term. Voters would have understood if she had to resign in January to become Vice President, but because — in her own words — she didn’t want to deal with governing as a “lame duck.” The first question in any campaign debate for Palin from now on will be, “Will you quit in the middle of a presidential term if you get disenchanted or get ethics complaints filed against you?”
Palin’s supporters might think that resigning is a brilliant strategic stroke, but those are by far not enough to get her elected President, as the last election pretty clearly showed. Palin needed to build a sober resumé as an executive, someone who could show that the media had her all wrong — someone, as Stirewalt points out, could have her substance eclipse her celebrity. Palin needed to build a broader base, not narrow it down to the true believers, and she had an opportunity to do that by finishing out her term in the tough conditions of an economic downturn. Instead, she resigned to leverage her celebrity, which will not convince current non-believers and political agnostics of her substance. Instead, it gives them even more reason to distrust Palin.
In the end, perhaps the two sides of the Palin debate have talked past each other for the last few days. If Palin wants to be freed up to give speeches and focus on the faithful, her resignation will not dim those possibilities at all. If she plans to advance in national office, though, she has to address the “conventional” as well as the unconventional to win national office, and resigning halfway through a first term is no way to go about it.










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Ed, I thought you said Palin’s national political career was over. Why are you still pontificating on what will happen and how the voters will respond should she decide to run in 2012? Frankly, I don’t think Palin cares what the political pundits and bloggers say. She did what she thought was right for her state and her country. One of the reasons I support her is that she sees the bigger picture and doesn’t sit around hand wringing over what the pundits think. I wish some of those on our side who have microphones and columns could also see the bigger picture and quit looking at life through a political spectrum where poll #s are more important than principle.
Redneck Woman on July 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM
It wasn’t a nail or we still wouldn’t be talking about her… and she wouldn’t have driven MJ off the news.
But it was WEIRD and not dependable. That was always my problem with McCain… I never knew for sure that he would really do what he said and not just change his mind and side with the Democrats for the sake of peace.
The McCain/Palin combination was probably not ever going to make an administration I ever felt great about. They are both too mercurial.
Anything and anyone is better than Obama of course.
petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM
this is getting more coverage than obambi in russia. unfortunately as big a supporter of palin as i am i feel she made a mistake in quitting. her speech left more questions than answers. i wish her well, she is a wonderful person
rjoco1 on July 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM
I don’t believe for a moment that this “kills” her. I think she needs to push back, and push back quickly against the labels she’s now getting (before they become permanent), but nothing is ‘finished’ here. If a man with radical associations, who went to a radical church with a racist Pastor, can get away ‘Scott-free’ and move on top become the President, then it obviously becomes a new political reality that it’s not WHAT you do that matter…but how you ‘spin’ it.
As a side note, I rewrote Palin’s resignation speech. I really wanted to get Ed’s input (even if he thought it sucked), but nothing yet. Not sure where emails go when you send them to tips@hotair.com, but yeah, no. :/ So, since I’m here, could some of you guys check it out and tell me what you think?
http://politicalpopcorn.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/re-writing-palins-resignation-speech/
LiquidH2O on July 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Did either Bush or Obama quit almost 4 years before the next election? Did either Bush or Obama quit while campaigning?
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
It’s not about Palin, it’s about defeating Obamism. If I need to use Palin to do that, I will.
JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Ed, you said she was finished. You can’t have it both ways. Which is it?
fourstringfuror on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Allahpundit, you magnificent bastard.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
This article from the
has it right. Palin cannot win if she doesn’t stop being a drama queen. At some point it’s not all about her and what her ideas are. Too many of her most rabid supporters don’t know a thing about her other than the tabloid existence of the past few months. These are serious times calling for serious candidates. Palin will never be that candidate if she can’t get beyond the tabloid furor over her personal life.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Palin-can_t-win-unless-she-stops-the-drama-7926898-49978742.html
highhopes on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Rush, Levin, Beck, and to some extent Hannity. In terms of reporters, I trust Brit Hume
Their opinion reaches millions. Most of the ‘pundit’ class you named has 90% of readership within a mile of Interstate 495
battleoflepanto1571 on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM
What I don’t understand is why is she being so aloof about her reasons for resigning? I would think a governor should provide an explanation to the people of Alaska who voted for her. She owes them that much.
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM
AND I WOULD THINK A SITTING PRESIDENT WOULD OWE ALL OF AMERICANS A GOOD LOOK AT HIS COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS AND ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AMONG OTHER THINGS. SARAH PALIN CAN DO WHATEVER THE HELL SHE WANTS WITH NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER BECAUSE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS LEADERS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOTHING SHORT OF A BUNCH OF LAZY DO NOTHING F-CKING COWARDS! PERIOD, END OF STORY. I AM BEYOND SICK OF THIS PARTY SITTING ON IT’S ASS WHILE THIS GOD DAMN FRAUD TRAMPLES OVER EVERYTHING WE HOLD SACRED AS AMERICANS. IF I WANT TO BE REMINDED OF EUROPE, I’LL GET ON A GOD DAMN PLANE AND VISIT EUROPE, OR EVEN MOVE THERE. I DON’T WANT EUROPES BACK ASS WAY OF LIFE FORCED ON ME HERE.
Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Oh, totally agree that the GOP stinks to high heaven these days. I’m totally disappointed in Steele…I had such high hopes. He’s been a total bust.
And for sure, I’m no Romney fan. Boehner is my choice. (no more jokes, please)
The only way the GOP has a chance in 2012 is to be unified. That’s going to require a lot of give and take. But it’s necessary. And I don’t see Palin as a unifier.
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Try to stop being so disingenuous for once. This is not a question of rallying against criticism. Palin leveled vicious attacks against The Precedent and his junta in her speech and, yet, not you nor any of your messiah pundits was able to find them or comment on them. By reading their “analysis” (and I use that word loosely) one would never know that she attacked anything about the current policies coming out of Washington. Why is that?
I’m not even a strong Palin supporter (I was ticked at some of her green initiatives) but I cannot stand juvenile interpretations that are supposed to pass as “studied analysis”, as happened in response to her speech – by your messiah pundits.
progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Thank you for a good post Ed.
You aren’t shrill
or an elitist
or a snob
or a sexist
Like so many have labeled you ap and me and others here
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Notice how unfair this is: she was asked repeatedly for her reaction to the Letterman saga — Wolf Blitzer and others asked her for her reaction.
If she stayed ‘above the fray’ you know exactly what the reaction would be: she’s hiding something, she’s not forthright, she’s ashamed of her daughter, she can’t answer questions, blah blah blah.
She engages the issue head on, and she’s called inexperienced. Yet, we have a man in high office who routinely engages talk radio hosts and acts like a juvenile delinquent when things don’t go his way.
It’s a double-standard, and some conservatives are falling for it. Sad.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Europe is turning right
relax
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
No.
If Alaskans are better off without her in power, why would they, or the rest of us, be better off with her in power in the White House?
That’s a question she’ll have to answer repeatedly if she runs in 2012, and it’s one with no good answer. Does anyone believe her children would be left alone by Letterman if she were in the White House? Does anyone believe lawyers wouldn’t come running after her? Does anyone believe she’d have an easier time as President?
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Her speech gave the reasons- completion of goals in office (granted I see weakness in this point, personally), ethics complaints/costs, media attacks, hints about other goals (higher office?)
She also indicated she will give more detail later. If she does run, I’m sure the questions will be answered more fully. Probably some updates in coming weeks, details in book, etc.
cs89 on July 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
That’s fine, I get your point. But that would still be a non seq on Ed’s part since this isn’t why she’s resigning from Alaska. Unless I’m mistaken, don’t think she’s had to run much legislation past Pelosi from Wasilla. You can’t extrapolate how she would handle Pelosi and Frank on conservative social and fiscal issues by how she’s handling these wasteful lawsuits.
LastRick on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Well-said, Ed.
Buy Danish on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Palin is probably going to make some money writing her book, do some speaking and lend her talents to electing some conservatives next year. If that is her strategy she is probably wise to do what she did, there is no guarantee those same opportunities would be there for her at the end of her term.
I think she is not considering any kind of run in 2012. If she was a target this year, she would be a walking bulls eye for the media against their hero Obama. Imagine if she beat him, how unmerciful they would be to her in office. By her logic she would have to resign.
She could eventually take some position that would give her street cred and overcome doubts about her ability to stick it out. She is young and has a long time to pursue aspirations for higher office. I think she has had it for now, wants to make some money for her family and start having fun again.
msmveritas on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
So a radio audience makes their opinion iron-clad and their conservatism unwavering?
Interesting standard there.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Out of hundreds of comments, one or two people label you as such and then everyone foots the bill.
You’ve learned the left’s game quite well.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Rabble, rabble, rabble…Elitist…rabble, rabble, rabble Lefty…rabble, rabble, rabble…
LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Guys and gals, I have to fill out a gag survey for a work retreat. Goofy questions and all. One of the questions is “what job would you love to have” and “what job would you hate to have”
I’m giving my answers based on HOW IMPORTANT / HOW MUCH POWER the job has, but I have a conundrum:
DO I answer the survey based on July 2009 pundits or on November 2008 pundits?
If I follow November 2008, the LEAST IMPORTANT JOB IN THE WORLD is ALASKA GOVERNOR
If I follow July 2009, THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB ON EARTH is ALASKA GOVERNOR
What should I do? Can I put Alaska gov. for both?
Serious question here, guys! And even worse news, the email for NRO & Weekly Standard is down! Where else can I get “we’re better than you hicks” opinions! :(
battleoflepanto1571 on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
If Palin can’t deal with media attacks as gov, she certainly won’t be able to as POTUS.
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 PM
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM
and america is turning into a hellhole. i’ll ‘relax” when this POS and his bigfoot bride get their asses handed to them in 2012. or sooner preferably.
Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Here’s the problem with the criticism. It’s too early to criticize. The pundits have no idea what will happen. They have no idea what Palin has been through nor, for the most part, have they been in anything close to the situation she has found herself. To go one step further, they can’t cite anyone to compare her to.
Therefore, their critism is just a means to try to box her in again while it is clear, regardless of what she does in the future, she made this move to get OUT of the box she was in. They are knee-capping her before she can even get started. That said, like Nancy Kerrigan, I think all of the criticism will turn into a positive before this is finished.
genso on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Have you ever considered that “what she said” coulda been complete BS? I mean, sure she insists that by stepping down she can undo some legislative logjam…but what if its just bull? What if she could do x or y as governor to break the logjam…what if stepping down doesnt work?
What im asking is, what if shes just wrong about her reasoning? What if she wasnt being thoughtful about it? Sure sounded like that might have been the case given her remarks.
ernesto on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
All of this is moot if she doesn’t sue Moore et al upon leaving office. The defamation, slander and libel from the left won’t stop, so if she does not sue as she warned, her credibility with her supporters (including me) will be permanently shot. Forget ’12; keep your eyes about a month out. That’s where the fork in the road is.
splink on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
So wait…you’re lambasting people for not paying closer attention to the way she attacked Obama during the speech in which she announced her odd and abrupt resignation from office mid-term without any known pending scandals about to hatch or known family emergencies?
That’s like complaining that people didn’t notice what kind of car was in the driveway of the house that suddenly exploded.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Nice tangent.
An audience of MILLIONS in a country with 40% conservative nearly guarantees ‘conservative’ listeners.
On the other hand, squishy “centrist” political radios get no ratings, because they have little to no political followers
I would think if Rush started to get non-conservative, people would stop listening. You disagree?
battleoflepanto1571 on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Go away moron — your posts are insignificant and infantile. Obama had plenty of help dealing with attacks — didn’t he?
Does Palin have a Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, and Tony Rezko in her life?
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I am about 1 more Hot Air Palin post from deleting this site from my bookmarks. Maybe Ed and Allah should take a vacation from posting on anything Palin related for a while lest they continue pissing off the dwindling readership any further.
outOfElement on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I like your postings on HA. You are intellectual, and don’t bash with a hammer, but use surgical accuracy to get to your point.
That said, YOU of all people comparing Palin to some sort of religious figure is 10 lbs of Irony in a 5 lb. bag. You equate religion with blind faith, and there alot of Palin supporters who like Palin, warts & all.
When your first post in a thread boils down to:
Palin supporters are going to trash anyone who questions her because they are drooling worshippers of the new Gold Calf just sends the wrong message.
Supporters of All candidates will have the Rabid supporters (Mitt Romney had Poptech) or others who are level headed.
portlandon on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Except she didn’t. Every time I turned on the TV this weekend and even this morning, I first heard about MJ for ten minutes and then maybe got a minute or two on Palin. And that was on Fox.
Turn the caps lock off if you want to be taken seriously. It’s disrespectful to type in all caps.
I agree to a point.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
False dichotomy. The point most people are making now is that the AK governor’s office is at least more important than nothing.
Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
You hate Palin for pretty much the same reason some people idolize her, so get over yourself.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Some form of that question will have to be answered by Palin if she chooses to run for president. That’s fair.
myrenovations on July 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM
SIGH…
“attack” does not equal “you are being sued, and must appear in juneau court at 9am on tuesday. oh, and lawyers run about $1200/day”
do you really not get the ‘ethics’ reason or are you just being obtuse for fun? her STATED REASON by her OWN MOUTH was “80% of my time is being wasted with these mandatory ethics logjams; NOTHING is getting done in alaska govt; the law wont change; its hurting alaska every day that im here because of these stupid mandatory lawsuits, so i’m leaving, which helps alaska, and in the meantime i can help the gop”
nevermind. you DIDNT watch her speech. you probably just read ‘commentary’ on huffo or dailykos
battleoflepanto1571 on July 6, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I wish it didn’t always have to be a choice between candidates none of us really really like… but then when one comes along that a few really really like one, like Sarah. I become totally suspicious.
I guess I like to be able to see the warts up front and not hide them behind charisma.
Her following gives me pause… odd, I know.
petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Let’s not forget Mark Levin — who commands 5-6 million listeners.
Frum and Co. have no influence whatsoever — they are, in Levin’s word, ‘back benchers.’ Levin’s book sold a million copies; Frum’s recent book sold 25,000 — enough said.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:44 PM
We’ll see. I think she has a shot, but she has to prepare her campaign for the criticism that will continue to be directed at her.
I’d have advised her to seek re-election as governor, write the book, publish and speak on issues of national importance. That said, my advice to Obama in 2006 would have been to get a full Senate term under his belt, win re-election and then go for the White House after Hillary had her chance.
dedalus on July 6, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Palin is not liked in hierarchy of the GOP. She ruins their plans.
portlandon on July 6, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Yes. I am. You should, too.
She explained why she was leaving. She said that she had fullfilled those tasks she had promised and was now handing the governorship off to her deputy, who would not be bogged down with the outside interference that was reducing her effectiveness in office.
No, it’s not. But I don’t expect you’ll understand why not.
progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Of course. And since Palin’s announcement, her worshipers have been switching between calling people like Ed “traitors” to saying they would shut down Hot Air if they had the power, simply because of their opinion that this was a bad move for Palin to make, and that it’s going to hurt her career.
Palin supporters aren’t making these claims, because Ed is a Palin supporter, as am I. Palin acolytes are making these claims, and there are a disturbing number of them that have shown up.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Palin’s resignation makes sense when you take her at her word, as Tapscott does. The problem is that 24-hour cable news channels, a blogosphere that never sleeps, a surplus of pundits, and an information deficit lead inevitably to a “shoot first, ask questions later” rush to judgment.
Here’s what we know now and it may be all that we will know for awhile: Palin tried simultaneously to govern her state, protect her family and maintain her national profile, but it came at an ever-increasing cost to her family. When the tipping point arrived and she made her decision, the ‘Cuda wasted no time putting it into action. Clearly, she is handing off Alaska to her capable Lt. Gov. and trying to do right by her family while hinting that her national profile will be part of her future plans.
Terrie on July 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM
+1 I’ll read Michelle’s site instead.
Luthien on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Not with complete accuracy, but enough so that many people won’t feel they can trust her.
You think this is helping?
This is childish in its own naivete. Do you think those attacks would stop if she were to reach our highest office?
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Many of us don’t give a rip whether she runs for president. I don’t know why that has to be an issue at this point. More important that she start to educate the public on Obama’s depredations. She’s now free to do that. A lot needs to be done before we start fighting over who should run for president.
a capella on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
You know, people keep saying this over and over. But the simple reality is that it is currently accepted practice to run for a new office while holding (and neglecting) another, and to resign your current office if you are successful. It is not currently accepted practice, though, to quit a term early in order to seek higher office.
Should it be that way? I dunno. But that is the reality within which she would be running a 2012 bid. Can she change that reality? Who knows, but running up against it is an obstacle, whether you like that fact or not.
ProfessorMiao on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
You’re not alone, I’m right there with you.
moonsbreath on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Ever heard the term “bully pulpit?”
Seriously, I hear your point. It’s a valid criticism. From my chair, I think she was too limited by the McCain campaign and the ethics stuff in Alaska. She may be able to defuse or counteract some of the stuff swirling around in the near future as a private citizen, and would have more control from the driver’s seat of a future campaign.
Whether she strikes the right tone to make it happen, is up to her.
cs89 on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title39/Chapter52.htm
I am not Palinista. I see the merit in all of the above as to how this resignation could hurt her. It could hurt her solely based on the fact that the screaming memes in the MSMLSD will never get it straight as to the actual truth.
However, I did some research, and found the above link spells out why she had to resign. IF SOMEONE WOULD FOR THE LOVE OF PETE LOOK AT THE ETHICS LAWS then maybe they might understand why she could not campaign for herself, or even any of the 38 governors races, or Congressional races. It also suggest she cannot do things to increase her income to pay for the all the ridiculous lawsuits. Not to mention the fact that the Alinsky Dems, and RINOS in AK were not going to stop filing them.
I will be the first one to say I am not sure about her as a POTUS candidate. I am not sure about her voucher position, global warming position, and sometimes she sounds too populist to me. BUTT MONKEY, wherever she stands on these issues is light years better than President Chutes&Ladders!
I could go on, and on about the pros and cons regarding this decision. Ultimately, as a non-supporter to date, I see more positives of this than negatives. Of all the moves she has made since November, this one is one I am most comfortable with because it will give her time to learn, and relay to us what she believes in. As Andrew Malcolm said in the L.A. Times, we are no longer in the traditional realm of politics. Today we had a community organizer meeting with a sock puppet of the KGB Putin. Who would have believed that 3 years ago?
Lastly, who here has not been screaming at the top of our lungs for someone, anyone to stand up for the Americans? Steele has forwarded all our emails, and phone calls to Mars. The GOP, they support Cristie over Lazio, and Crist over Rubio. That was a giant drop dead message to the Base if I read it correctly. We want a real out of the Beltway type person to take it to President Candyland over all the issues we are facing. If she begins taking him to the mattresses with solid criticism, oh man will the ankle biters have to eat their words!
I do not think we are going to know the real impact of this until at least 6 months have passed. And until we see poll numbers jump for those she campaigns for in these upcoming elections. Can we just wait and see instead of declaring a live body dead?
freeus on July 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM
go away moron. What a cute little display
And no. I’m not picking out two commenters
I’m picking out a whole lot of them and what they say.
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM
It will be over analyzed by then , she could phone in the answers.
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM
You’re naive as well, because you’ve missed my point. The point is that Obama had help, plenty of it…Sarah has had none.
Perhaps before slinging the ‘childish’ smear you should carefully read posts.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM
You’re valuing her speech over her action.
Tell me how that’s not what Obama worshipers do.
Being obtusely cryptic is a child’s tactic.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
HOW ABOUT SHUTTING UP AND ACTUALLY SEEING WHAT HER FIRST MOVE WILL BE?
All of these pundits and pollsters are analyzing this move TO.DEATH.
My ears are ringing from it all. Just let us hear from Sarah what her moves will be, and THEN you are free to analyze the hell out of it.
Jeez. I know some people like hearing themselves talk, but really.
seaplanes on July 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I agree, but a future in which a majority of Americans are listening to Palin herself and not a pundit talking about Palin is very unlikely…
Black Yoshi on July 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Well isn’t he? Jetboy routinely posts inane nonsense and other times quite disreputable commentaries on conservatives. His Obama worship doesn’t bother you none, huh?
You’re a generalizer — deal with it. Hundreds of comments and you point out one or two and make it your meme. Nice.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Honestly, what the heck does Obama hae to do with Sarah Palin?
Stop playing the “they had more help” victim game.
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Won’t be long before Sarah drops another bombshell surprise
and ya’ll will have a spitting contest over that for a week or
so.
And another surprise and so on………
LankyLou on July 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM
The fear the left have of Sarah Palin is so intriguing to me. I don`t for one minute think this was a sudden decision and her timing is brilliant. She got the attention back on politics and this travesty thats sucking our Freedom away right before our eyes. It occurs to me that sometimes the best stratagy might be their own used against them.
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Hopefully, Ed and Co. aren’t making bets on how many Palin threads they can get to over 2000+ posts.
Thunderstorm129 on July 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM
What?!?
“Obama worship”? Hello…McFly…
JetBoy on July 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Agreed. And she has to have an incredible answer.
And yet, as governor, she had an opportunity to see that the law was changed. Not just through her own office but because of the audience her office commands.
That’s just not an argument that makes me feel better about her. One of the things I loved about her was that instead of looking the other way (like Obama), she dealt with problems head on.
Completely agree. Though with Obama, he already had an Ivy league education and two books, which helped give him credibility. I personally disagree that it was enough, but obviously most voters felt differently.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM
The fact Sarah has elicited at least 10,000 comments over the weekend from this site alone says something about her celeb effect. It seems that that is half the fight in politics today, so don’t count her out.
kwbrownie2003 on July 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Sarah Palin, the governor, isn’t my concern and never has been. You don’t know any more than I do whether or not those ethics charges are non-existent baggage or not but that is beside the point. You think the media bias and ethical accusations would go away were she to be VP or POTUS?
I will rally to the side of whatever conservative candidate I think can undo the mess that he/she will be left by the corrupt and bad stewardship of the Obama regime. I will not rally to the side of Sarah Palin simply because she has a cult following based solely on personality. She appears to be a nice person with most of my values but that doesn’t give her my unqualified support because I am unconvinced that she has the skills that will be necessary in January 2013 to begin the long slog to sanity. Even on issues where she should be knowledgeable, like energy policy, she’s been staking out a position with the cap & trade crowd. That doesn’t give me full confidence in her as the best candidate for the GOP in the next election.
She can fight her battles with the press without me. I’m focused on finding the next candidate who will protect and defend America and undo the excesses of this administration. In July 2009, Sarah Palin fails as being that person.
highhopes on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Palin ally: ‘Life is not happy for her’ right now
A person close to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with knowledge of her thinking told CNN Monday that her decision to end her term early “is not part of a grand strategy” to run for president, and that he does not believe she will mount a White House bid — but conceded that, as far as he knows, she has not ruled out the prospect.
Her decision to step down sprang from personal considerations, he said. The combination of family duties and commuting posed a major challenge. “Her life is very difficult,” he said. “She cannot spend time with her family.”
Another strike against Palin continuing her government service: her mounting legal bills. “Life is not happy for her” right now, he said. Once she decided not to run for re-election, he believes it made perfect sense to step down as soon as possible. The move frees her to raise money for candidates, push causes she cares about, and have the freedom to travel as she pleases.
He’s not aware of any single event that served as the immediate catalyst for Palin’s decision, but adds that she was underpressure to make a decision whether or not she would seek another term as governor, so others in the state GOP could prepare for the race.
TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Those of you who think that Palin is a ‘drama queen’ because she can’t ‘get over’ the attacks on her family, just wait.
The Dems and the MSM will attack the personal life and family of ALL the GOP 2012 primary candidates as soon as they announce their candidacy. If your preferred candidate is in that bunch, get ready to have him called a drama queen if he fights back just one little bit.
We should all fight the slander and lies against Palin, first because it’s the right thing to do, second because if we don’t, attacking the family will be the Dem/MSM strategy forevermore and it won’t stop at the White House door either.
Missy on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
I was just thinking that they’re probably betting on how fast a thread goes down in flames.
moonsbreath on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Palin’s voting record shows her conservative bona fides…what does she have to do, carry a cross on her back across the USA, and then finally be nailed up and reborn?
She’s a patriot, an unabashed capitalist, pro-Israel, will drill for oil, big on defense, low taxes. Most everyone in America would love to be getting their own, oil royalty checks, from Alaska.
If she doesn’t pass your “tested conservative” value test, who would?
luvstotango on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Huh? What the heck are you trying to say? Do you understand what a reasonable analysis of her speech, explaining her action, would entail? Do you think there was any point to knowing anything about her speech, or was the fact that she was resigning all that there was?
Oy vey.
progressoverpeace on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Honestly, this attitude is not helpful. You know that almost everyone posting today actually voted for Sarah. And probably would again. So when you throw around accusations against people who are basically supportive, but remain unconvinced that she knows what she is doing… that is just not going to win anyone over.
I have read a lot of Palin threads and I have never heard anyone on our side say the stuff about her they do on the lefty threads. I think you go after us because you can’t post on the sites that really go after her.
You are beating up Sarah’s allies. That really doesn’t make a great deal of sense.
petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:50
Lol you’re so obvious
you don’t spend any time reading threads
and you accuse me of picking out one or two people
it’s completely laughable
but you’ll insist until your last breath you are right
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Clever sleight of hand — didn’t he have help? With those nefarious influences in his life, and he got away with it?
Imagine if Sarah Palin had this class of characters in her life — do you really think she would get away with it? Have you looked at the ethics complaints? All completely foolish, and a terrible waste of taxpayers’ money.
You view the world through the Obama sunglasses you bought at the rallies.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
what’s not to understand ?
runner on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Let’s keep in mind that her job in Juneau put her 4 hours 1/2 hours away from her home.
She literally has to take a plane ride to get back home….
TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Ed, why is your blog still headlining a thread with a reference to “the other shoe,” for goodness sake? Why haven’t you linked to the FBI statement debunking the blog rumors of “another shoe?” Trying to figure you out right now. Its sleazy to keep pumping the “other shoe” rumors.
james23 on July 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM
About two minutes, by my watch. :)
Thunderstorm129 on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Ah, perfect display of deferral and denial.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM
You people don’t understand the amount of pressure she has….
She can hardly see her family…
TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Time you learned to use a search engine then:
Ethics Act: Attorney General on Palin’s proposed changes.
Palin’s Reply to watering down by legislature.
gh on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Keep on keeping on, guy.
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I’d suggest the same to you, but you seem to think you’re doing the right thing by railing on Jet and blatant.
And yet, I did read what you wrote and was thinking of that when I responded to you. What makes you think the Left won’t still have the help Obama does? And if she runs in 2012, guess what, Obama will be running to. So she’ll have to face Obama, with all of his help.
It’s just one of many speculations about her. All I’m saying is that if that was her goal in quitting (and I’m hoping it wasn’t, actually), then she made a stupid move. Others are arguing the opposite and getting little traction.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
She did provide an explanation.
Darth Executor on July 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Tu quoque
Richard Romano on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM
msmveritas on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM
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Interesting analysis. Needs a few more dimensions, though.
Looked at the other way, the only way for Palin to get some assistance from the rectums (erm, reporters) in the main sewer media is for Obama to become tremendously unpopular – in a fashion not seen since Carter at his lowest ebb.
Surprisingly, there are fewer “fail” vectors for Palin than for Obama.
Assuming Palin wants to run for anything, she just has to give a standard “Candidate X is a Great American” speech for various state house and congressional candidates for the next 2 years, sue a couple lefty bloggers who stray too far into untruth, and wait.
She doesn’t have to run in 2012, she could use a network of state and congressional candidates who she’s appeared for to try for a cabinet post and some higher visibility in, for instance, a Romney administration.
Obama, on the other hand, has to avoid the lightning rod of tax hikes (which energized both Reagan and Gingrich..) and keep energy costs reasonable while not getting too many troops killed in Afghanistan and keeping congressional Dems from overreaching on health care… way more pitfalls on the path he’s chosen.
Mew
acat on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM
People listened to her speech. People who regularly dissect speeches of candidates on both sides and whittle them down to speech molecules listened to her speech. It still didn’t make sense. This is unprecedented. Politicians, historically, have only stepped down from high office when there was some sort of serious family emergency, or some major scandal was waiting to break. Many, many people have been speculating that she was going to be the top 2012 contender, and suggested this immediately upon her resignation. In response, bloggers wondered how many other presidential candidates quit their posts almost 4 years before the next presidential election.
She gave an answer that is dubious. Can you accept that?
I have a feeling that will be my response to you, in the end.
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 12:59 PM
The drama, or commotion, around Palin is in part due to the fact that conservatives like her–no, they really like her–and they make a fuss anytime she pops up on tv. This is a good thing, Mr. Stirewalt. The rest of the GOP would kill for this type of attention.
The other aspect of the Palin drama–the incessant leaking and rumormongering by her political opponents
in the GOPis not of her making. The weasels in the Beltway GOP and their weasel mouthpieces in the press, are the authors of this drama, and the explicit purpose was to drive her out. I won’t forget it, either.james23 on July 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM
I agree with this. That’s what’s so scary about her. She actually believes the easily-disprovable nonsense that comes out of her mouth.
She would be effective in some ways, but it would pull away the tiny fig-leaf of nonpartisanship that the Tea Parties try to hide behind.
Palin, like Obama, has some starstruck crazy fans who are willing to believe that anything she does is brilliant and perfect. Some folks like to believe in superheroes.
orange on July 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM
and america is turning into a hellhole. i’ll ‘relax” when this POS and his bigfoot bride get their asses handed to them in 2012. or sooner preferably.
Ghoul aid on July 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM
I don`t know if the Nation can hang on that long. The Congress better turn right in 2010 or I don`t think it will matter.
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM
For me, part of it depends on who the ones are that really really like her. I tend to trust Rush. He likes her and so on.
I’d also argue the part about her warts not being up front and hidden behind charisma. They have been laid bare more than any politician’s in history. If you feel the warts are hidden, perhaps you should consider that she just doesn’t have any really hideous ones. If she did, we would all have seen them, on the cover of every major paper and magazine in the check out line at your local grocer. I imagine there would have been breaking news segments preempting any and every program on every channel.
I think her following comes from people who are tired of compromising and getting the shaft at every turn. She is someone who people trust. Sure, trust can be misplaced, but she has given no one reason to distrust her, unless you are all upset that she isn’t intent on costing the State of Alaska a few more millions to defend accusations about the freaking logo on her jacket. Gah, the horrible wart!
She is no ‘messiah’, but she is a leader I will follow, until she gives me reason not to. This resignation isn’t it.
pannw on July 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM
As much as I love and sing the praises of Sarah, and would certainly vote for her should she run, I become bored with the seeming endless Palin threads that by now, are only slightly less boring and irritating than a Michael Jackson thread.
Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Someone who didn’t quit.
Seconded. We should be having reasonable discussions here. We’re all on the same side. And we’re being gentle to Palin, because most of us like her. We’re not even the Independents she’ll have to win over if she wants another crack at the White House.
Then maybe she shouldn’t have gotten rid of it.
She’d have more pressure and less time to spend with family as president or even as vice president.
She can either handle it, or she can’t.
Esthier on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM
That’s already going on, however, she’s very aware she draws media attention and I think she’s gambling they can’t ignore her when she starts attacking. It’s unorthodox and I think that’s what is driving the pundits nutso. They just can’t believe someone would defy convention and break out of the old mold.
a capella on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM
How do you drive Liberals, Pundits, and Basement Bloggers crazy? Announce you’re resigning, state your reasons, and don’t tell them your future plans.
There has been more prognostication and supposition written on this website in the last three days than in the entire history of Dionne Warwicke’s Psychic Hotline.
Only Sarah knows what she is going to do. Hopefull, she’ll annouce her plans soon. Otherwise there’ll be heads exploding, people stroking out, and a bunch of frozen MSM reporters up in Alaska.
kingsjester on July 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Hopefull=Hopefully
kingsjester on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Great. We’ve now got multiple Palin haters to complement the Palin worshipers. It’s noon where I’m at, so all we need is drinks to make this a party!
MadisonConservative on July 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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