Sarah Palin’s Surprise

posted at 2:55 pm on July 6, 2009 by The Other McCain

From my latest American Spectator column:

“Her national political career is done,” NBC’s David Shuster declared, even before reports of her plans to resign had been confirmed. Other media types joined the rush to write Palin’s political obituary, with a Greek chorus of “conservative” commentators transparently eager to agree that her resignation represented proof that Palin is both unelectable to and unfit for higher office.
Of course, she had just exposed as fraudulent the pretended omniscience of the commentariat. None of them had predicted Palin’s resignation, and yet their latest oracular pronouncements — Ed Rollins told CNN she looked “terribly inept” — were treated as authoritative.
The punditocracy can’t predict Palin because she shares neither their perspective nor their assumptions. Her ascent to political stardom has been treated as a fluke by most of the GOP establishment for the simple reason that she doesn’t slavishly follow the standard script of Republican politicians.
Of course, in recent years this script usually has ended with “…and then the Democrats won,” suggesting the need for a re-write. . . .

Please read the whole thing. Sunday morning, I was driving back from Lake Weiss — where we’d shot our fabulous annual Fourth of July fireworks show — when the editor called asking me to write the column.

Of course, not all the commentators rushing to write finis on Palin’s career were of the Ed Rollins/David Schuster variety. Both Ace and Allahpundit hastened to endorse the pundit consensus.

I’ve got MSNBC on my office TV and the mid-day newsette just referred to Palin’s “baffling” resignation. It’s not baffling. Palin explained her reasons, and her reasons sounded entirely plausible to me. What baffles the pundits is the fact that it was (a) unexpected, and (b) doesn’t fit the established script for presidential hopefuls.

The people who pronounce themselves “baffled,” and who conclude that Palin has made a stupid move by resigning, are leaving a couple of things out of their calculations. First, Palin is a Christian who, in the past, has made straightforward reference to the will of God. What she believes — what she must believe — is that if it is God’s will that she become president, she will. Therefore, the conventional wisdom of the commetariat and all the advice from political “experts” are just so much noise to her.

Second, Palin’s closest adviser is her husband, Todd. He is not stupid. He is also not a man who will show up on TV and blabber his every thought for the sake of creating the impression that he knows everything.

Just because you don’t know what Sarah Palin is doing doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she’s doing.

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She cited all those things, and in doing so left more questions than answers.

I got it. She’s going national. It’s entirely too early to announce that she’s going to run, but it was clear as crystal that is exactly what she’s going to do.

Then, McCain couldn’t have been clearer. He said, “She’s taking a leadership role.”

What’s confusing?

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Yeah, Palin might want to soft-pedal that one. No more certain way to lose the independent vote.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Believing in a diety that takes an interest in our lives turns off the independants?

I’ve never seen any indication of such behavior on the part of most voters.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Prodigal son.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Both parties are scared to death of SaraCuda because:

She’s not one of “them” — she’s one of US !

stenwin77 on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Palin should go to Jacko’s funeral tomorrow and announce that she’s running for president.

It would utterly destroy the internet.

tsj017 on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I remain a staunch Palin supporter, although I question the wisdom of the strategy. Perceptions matter, and if it looks as if she was successfully trolled by the press and by the Soros people making those frivolous ethics complaints, then that cut-and-run perception will dog her throughout the remainder of her political career; that is, assuming she continues to pursue a political career. Fingers crossed. I’m waiting for the big reveal.

I believe only Sarah Palin can beat Barack Obama in 2012. As it stands right now, the other potential candidates–Romney, Jindal, Guiliani, Huckabee, et al–just don’t have the stuff. Of course, it’s possible one of them might undergo a dramatic, Truman- or Lincoln-like personal transformation between then and now. Romney, for example, might suddenly stop acting like a Hollywood character actor drawn from central casting and actually come across as genuine and real. Huckabee might receive a revelation and discover that vicious backbiting and behind-the-scenes maneuvering are not Christian attributes. You never know.

troyriser_gopftw on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I would say it is a false statement, other wise the Hebrew
people would be still making bricks without straw.

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

So….developing technology to make life more productive is NOT helping themselves? Could you diagram that logic for me?

genso on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Palin should go to Jacko’s funeral tomorrow and announce that she’s running for president.

It would utterly destroy the internet.

tsj017 on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

LOL!!!

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

No “the Other McCain” tried to. I am just commenting on his comment.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Palin has been pretty clear that she is a Christian, and prayer plays into her life and decisions. Agree or disagree, this point in the post is an accurate reflection of her own statements.

Oh, and a number of other political leaders in this nation have made quite similar statements going back to the late 18th century at least. FWIW.

cs89 on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I am completely baffled by those that think Palin’s statement regarding her decision is completely incoherent. Maybe my not being involved in politics, nor a regular commenter, nor a blogger, somehow insulates me from the complexities of thinking required to completely miss her intent. She clearly stated why she decided to hand over governorship. She wants to no longer burden Alaska with the expense that her attackers bring to the state. Whether she is doing this for her own political benefit remains to be seen. She has not announced any intention to pursue presidency. Speculation on that intent is certainly warranted, and discussion of how this decision will impact that potential pursuit is also clearly warranted. Personally, I don’t know if or when she’ll run. I’m not certain if I want her to. But I understand her current decision. I think it was the right one for her, her family, and the state of Alaska.

The whole thing is of minimal importance to the national stage at this point anyway. Real change to the governance and direction of this country isn’t likely to come from the top down. In my opinion, our only hope is for the states to assert their sovereignty over the federal government. Until that point is made by a majority of states, and done forcefully, the feds will continue to press on towards bigger, badder and more, eventually to the downfall of the country. No single person is going to change that, not Sarah Palin, not Mitt Romney, and certainly not that other guy (insert name of choice here :) ). So let’s focus more on what can be done, not speculation and in-fighting over that which doesn’t even really matter, please.

aelhues on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Well then I take issue with God and his “Will” regarding HR 2454 along with a whole host of legislation that he has willed throughout the years. I also didn’t know that he was pro choice.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM

You might want to look up the concept of free will.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Prodigal son.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Sorry … wrong parable. Can’t remember if the one I’m thinking of has a short title or not. Long time since sunday school.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM

What she believes — what she must believe — is that if it is God’s will that she become president, she will.

I kinda thought the Divine Right thing lost currency with the unfortunate demise of Louis XVI

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM

You seem to be overlooking the conditional if. The statement that you quote doesn’t say that Palin believes that she’s been chosen by God and that she will win a presidential race as a result. Rather, it says only that she believes that if, in fact, it’s God’s will, then it will happen.

And when you think about it, that’s rather liberating. Of course, there are wiser courses of action than others, but such an attitude does liberate a person from feeling constrained, say, to waste time building a resume that the MSM, Manhattan la-di-da society, and the DC political class will never bless.

In the end, Palin’s free from serving as the Left’s pinata, largely bound and gagged in her role as governor.

Whatever the case, I disagree with your reading of the statement you quote.

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM

I said goodbye to HA after Ed’s post on 7/03/09. I don’t understand how he know Sarah Palin’s political career is over. Ed’s pronouncement was more shocking than Sarah Palin’s resignation. I was not shock of Gov. Palin’s resignation for I would have done the same thing and will not bother giving any reason. Gov. Palin gave her reasons in her speech but Ed was stuck on what her resignation meant for her political career. If you follow Gov. Palin’s story, you will knew she had resigned a lucrative position in the past with no fall back position at that time to prove a point. Todd and Sarah Palin have been there and done that! Today, Gov. Palin have several options available to her and Todd – a book deal,…
This post linked at C4P brought me back to HA. Maybe I should scan the greenroom more frequently for positive post about Sarah Palin. AP & Ed don’t understand what Palinmania is all about. I may not be able to grammatically write correctly but I can read and comprehend fairly. I read and follow Alaska papers and bloggers to read articles about Gov. Palin. I am a proud Palinbot, Palinista and prefer Palinmania. Jeeeeeez.

atemely on July 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Kim Jong Il believes in divine right as well.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM

I love it when atheists demonstrate that they haven’t the foggiest clue regarding any theistic subject.

You really don’t know what divine right is, do you?

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Deep down, you all know that the world will be a different place in 2012.

Here’s a hint! Do you think the economic collapse is almost over?

It hasn’t begun.

All your predictions are for naught. You simply can’t predict what the mood of the nation will be a year or two from now.

jeff_from_mpls on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I don’t want to dissect why she resigned. I don’t want to analyze her prospects for national office. I don’t want to defend her, nor do I want to condemn her.

I am just saddened that someone who isn’t an overly polished, groomed member of the pre-ordained political class is judged by so many “smart folks” to have absolutely NO chance of winning a national office. We just celebrated the birthday of our nation. I strongly suspect our founding fathers would be repulsed by what the ideal of representative government has become.

I am not upset by Sarah Palin’s decision. I am more concerned with what the debate over her says about us as a country. When we buy into the meme (promoted by the political chattering class) that there are only certain types of people who “should” run for national office, we will have an endless stream of Barack Obamas and John McCains until we just cease to exist.

God bless America.

SailorDave on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I read somewhere just last week some speculation that Hillary might resign. If she were to let Obama and the nation down that way, would it mean she could forget about running for President?

NellE on July 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I want to thank Michelle Malkin for listening to her readers.

In her blog, some of her commenters, myself included, complained about the poor editorializing from Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit about Palin. We lauded the posts from the Green Room and said that it was a shame that they were relegated to obscurity.

It appears that she has listened, and accomodated our wishes.

Great article, and again, a big thank you to Michelle for paying attention.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Well then I take issue with God and his “Will” regarding HR 2454 along with a whole host of legislation that he has willed throughout the years. I also didn’t know that he was pro choice.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM

You know the story of Joseph and the multi-colored coat? (Actually it’s a long-sleeved coat, but that’s another topic.) His brothers tried to kill him. When he was reunited with his brothers, you know what he said?

“You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.”

Notice he didn’t say “but God allowed your evil free will decision for good.” Yes, the brothers did it of their own will, but everything was still orchestrated according to God’s plan. What we often don’t see from our human perspective is how God works things for our good.

Daggett on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

atemely on July 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I don’t come to hotair for Ed and Allah. I come here to read the responses in the comments.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

And when you think about it, that’s rather liberating. Of course, there are wiser courses of action than others, but such an attitude does liberate a person from feeling constrained, say, to waste time building a resume that the MSM, Manhattan la-di-da society, and the DC political class will never bless.

Exactly, but honestly, the less said about personal religious beliefs, the better.

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

is that if it is God’s will that she become president, she will

Similar to W Bush?
Is there a crossover in voters there?

PunditFight on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

No I just thought (hoped) we might have gotten rid of the foolish concept of Divine Right when we got rid of the monarchs.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I’ve never been impressed by your intellectual abilities.
Today hasn’t changed that.

Divine right is the belief that since God put rulers in place, they have a right to do whatever they want.

Believing that God guides one’s steps has nothing to do with Devine Right.

But then, you would know that if you bothered to actually study.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

thanks for that photo, robert stacey.

blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Just because you don’t know what Sarah Palin is doing doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she’s doing.

Zackly.

ElRonaldo on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I believe only Sarah Palin can beat Barack Obama in 2012. As it stands right now, the other potential candidates–Romney, Jindal, Guiliani, Huckabee, et al–just don’t have the stuff..

It is overdue time for a great, conservative woman to become president. Not a Hillary–not a Ferraro–not a liberal–a conservative, family loving, married, mother, and accomplished woman who can kick a$$ and take names. This is why the left is twisted in knots about her. She’s antiseptic to all of their poison and positions.

It is paradoxical to presume that women exude the strength necessary to perform well in positions requiring strength. However, in God’s kingdom–there exist such paradoxes…

ted c on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I want to thank Michelle Malkin for listening to her readers.

In her blog, some of her commenters, myself included, complained about the poor editorializing from Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit about Palin. We lauded the posts from the Green Room and said that it was a shame that they were relegated to obscurity.

It appears that she has listened, and accomodated our wishes.

Great article, and again, a big thank you to Michelle for paying attention.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

And Michelle came down to Dallas and gave a great speech on July 4th.

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Believing in a diety that takes an interest in our lives turns off the independants?

I’ve never seen any indication of such behavior on the part of most voters.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Like it or not, independents decide elections. And like it or not, many of them…many..who might otherwise identify with Republicans do not vote Republican because of their irrational, medi-driven fear of evangelicals.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

The whole thing is of minimal importance to the national stage at this point anyway. Real change to the governance and direction of this country isn’t likely to come from the top down. In my opinion, our only hope is for the states to assert their sovereignty over the federal government. Until that point is made by a majority of states, and done forcefully, the feds will continue to press on towards bigger, badder and more, eventually to the downfall of the country. No single person is going to change that, not Sarah Palin, not Mitt Romney, and certainly not that other guy (insert name of choice here :) ). So let’s focus more on what can be done, not speculation and in-fighting over that which doesn’t even really matter, please.

aelhues on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Sorry, but I feel you couldn’t be more wrong. Presidential politics has become a game of promoting personalities, not necessarily ideals. As proof, today we have a man elected President with no real experience in anything but voter fraud. He was elected due to his “packaged total personality”, even though he was pretty up front about hanging out with terrorists and being a Communist.
Without the media “package” sold to the truly stupid in this country,he never would of won. Therefor, we need an equally engaging personality to combat his evil force.
Ideals don’t get headlines or TV coverage.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

more info on Obama’s views on god (which god does he worship, for ex.)I would love him to report.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Obama’s a demigod collector. During the campaign, he acknowledged publicly that he carried Hanuman in his pocket, and Indian priests sent him a life size elaborate Hanuman statue they formally blessed with life to him.

Considering where Obama’s taking the USA, he likely has a fascination with Baal as well.

Obama’s former Muslim Chicago pastor of 20 years would not argue with Palin’s trust in God. Rev. Wright has written four books and composed songs for the Trinity Choral Ensemble, including “God Will Answer Prayer.”

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

I love it when atheists demonstrate that they haven’t the foggiest clue regarding any theistic subject.

You really don’t know what divine right is, do you?

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

SHHHHHHH! Don’t tell them there are things they can’t understand..Their heads will explode!

GoodBoy on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Deep down, you all know that the world will be a different place in 2012.

Here’s a hint! Do you think the economic collapse is almost over?

It hasn’t begun.

All your predictions are for naught. You simply can’t predict what the mood of the nation will be a year or two from now.

jeff_from_mpls on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

BINGO, none of these pundits seem to have any imagination. Sarah can see it as clear as watching on a 52″ LCD at 8 ft.

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

So much for free will.

jaime on July 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Has nothing to do with free will.
If God is indeed soveriegn, then he can arrange events to help or hurt a campaign. He can also soften and harden hearts to make them more or less open to a person’s message.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

And there you have about 90% of the negative comments from 100% of the critics….they dunno….

right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Cue for said critics to now resort to ad hominems and whine about being attacked…

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

But apparently it was God’s will that he became President.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Did he vote in person, or absentee?

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

And Michelle came down to Dallas and gave a great speech on July 4th.

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I saw that video linked from Laura’s tea party post.

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

What she believes — what she must believe — is that if it is God’s will that she become president, she will.

.
Predermination? Where does that leave personal choice? I guess if it is God’s will we go to hell then we go to hell?

ronsfi on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Palin should go to Jacko’s funeral tomorrow and announce that she’s running for president.

It would utterly destroy the internet.

tsj017 on July 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM
LOL!!!

izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM
My computer just crashed just thinking about it…

superdave on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Some of you alleged “Palin supporters” are sounding like lefties using Axelrod “Concerned Christian” script. Is this next?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter, CheChe, as I just did a moment ago. I sat down with her on the sofa and, as calmly as I could, tried to explain to her why that biaytch, Sarah Palin, abandoned the people of Alaska and the entire country
She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes…

Oh, yeah. It’s coming.

Blake on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Obama’s a demigod collector. During the campaign, he acknowledged publicly that he carried Hanuman in his pocket, and Indian priests sent him a life size elaborate Hanuman statue they formally blessed with life to him.

Considering where Obama’s taking the USA, he likely has a fascination with Baal as well.

Obama’s former Muslim Chicago pastor of 20 years would not argue with Palin’s trust in God. Rev. Wright has written four books and composed songs for the Trinity Choral Ensemble, including “God Will Answer Prayer.”
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

hmm, interesting.

the last chapter in the obama story is going to be very interesting. The first one is painful.

ted c on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

“But the panic among mainstream media commentators and the GOP establishment suggests real worry that if she does, she might pull off an upset. Why else the vehement assertions that she’s clearly made a terrible mistake? Why else the categorical insistence that her political career is finished? Aren’t they all protesting too much?“

That is obvious. Populism scares insiders. I mean, real populism, not just the idoltry of someone.

So far, she’s the real populist.

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Prodigal son.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Sorry … wrong parable. Can’t remember if the one I’m thinking of has a short title or not. Long time since sunday school.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM
*********************************************************
The only point I was addressing was the statement that God helps those that help themselves. In other words, if you are not able to help yourself, you won’t receive God’s help; hence my reply. If the Hebrews being slaves,unable to help themselves, how then did they become free? Clearly God helps those that cannot help themselves, my only point. :)

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Well I am specifically commenting on one of the assertions made in the post.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM

No, you are mischaracterizing one of the comments made on this thread.
Please learn the difference.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

I don’t want to be a puppet in some overlord’s morality play.

lorien1973 on July 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM

You don’t have much choice in that matter. If the Lord ain’t guiding your steps, someone else is, and that someone else doesn’t have your best interests at heart.

jimmy2shoes on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

It is overdue time for a great, conservative woman to become president

I agree.

Tammy Bruce! A hot, gun-loving dyke in the Oval Office! Where do I send my contribution?

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Washington insiders, pundits, and “experts” are constantly surprised by everything. Economic forecasts, votes in Congress, decisions by the President. Of course, they’re even MORE out of touch with a poltician who’s not interested in being part of the establishment.

I think we should probably require all punditry to be displayed in grayed out text online, to reflect the ephemeral and absolutely inaccurate quality of the “information”.

I hereby predict Sarah Palin will run for President of Russia, and after losing in a close race, be awarded control over Qatar instead. Don’t believe me? What if I had an address in Alexandria VA, or on K street in DC?

hawksruleva on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

I don’t come to hotair for Ed and Allah. I come here to read the responses in the comments.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Well, of course, otherwise we have no say at all, and it’s frustrating. But they bring the topics and commentary to talk about–especially stuff you can never find in the MSM. There’s no paper without the writers, or the readers.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

It is overdue time for a great, conservative woman to become president
I agree.

Tammy Bruce! A hot, gun-loving dyke in the Oval Office! Where do I send my contribution?

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

wha?!

ted c on July 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM

So you would agree that all the books that try to explain this are fiction then, right?

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM

You really do enjoy acting dense, don’t you.

While there is no way for me to know if it’s God’s will whether I have pork or chicken for dinner tonight, it is quite easy to know that God would not want me to hunt you down and kill you.

Are you capable of understanding the difference?

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I want Palin to destroy the last vestiges of credibility of the media.

Bingo. that’s what’s going on here, and some of the anger expressed is by the citizenry at the media. It’s a comin…

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM

I enjoyed witnessing the fallacy of MSNBC Andrea Mitchell’s reliable inside source!

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Predermination? Where does that leave personal choice? I guess if it is God’s will we go to hell then we go to hell?

ronsfi on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

In a word, yes. It’s not as simple as that, but yes. Who are you to argue about it? He’s God. He can do whatever He wants with His creation.

Important factor if you’re going to give this any thought: We’re all destined to hell by default. The only change that occurs is when God has mercy and, despite the fact that we don’t deserve it, He switches us out of the “hell” column.

Daggett on July 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM

I also heard that Sarah Palin shot Steve McNair and that she’ll be signing with the Vikings.

Mr. D on July 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Could use her as the coach!

LOL..I doubt seriously she’d sign with the Vikings. They play INDOORS, and with fans that would vote in Al Franken, there are smarter places to play.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Hey now Cheddar head! Not all us Viking Fans get our tickets at the welfare agency. Besides it gets Franken out of the state for awhile. Sadly with the fools in DC he won’t stand out too much.

VikingGoneWild on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

So let’s start attacking Obama and the socialists again. Palin will do whatever she’s gonna do.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

One slight qualification re: Tammy Bruce for President. She has simply got to learn to keep her finger off the trigger. Nothing makes me more nervous that a gal who can’t remember the “finger off the trigger” rule.

http://swindlemagazine.com/issue18/

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

You have a major problem. Drop it.

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I enjoyed witnessing the fallacy of MSNBC Andrea Mitchell’s reliable inside source!

Me, too. That’s two MAJOR bloops in 1 year. Out, out!

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Kim Jong Il believes in divine right as well.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Your argument is somewhat stupid.

jimmy2shoes on July 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

I’ve never been impressed by your intellectual abilities.
Today hasn’t changed that.

Divine right is the belief that since God put rulers in place, they have a right to do whatever they want.

Believing that God guides one’s steps has nothing to do with Devine Right.

But then, you would know that if you bothered to actually study.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Yes Divine Right states that God’s Will put them in power.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Do you consider yourself rational and a reasoned man?

right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

If he does, that would be another subject on which he is wrong.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Where have we gotten to as a society,that people cannot simply take a person at their word?Sarah stated clearly what her reasons were.I’ve always found that second guessing other people’s motives to be an exercise in folly
For all of those who are still baffled by her decision,let me clear it up for you:Sarah left the office of Governor of Alaska because she could no longer perform the duties of Governor to best of her ability while defending herself from groundless charges of impropriety.
She also left to protect her childrren from the scurrilous attacks of the left-wing haters.
While I realize that self-sacrifice for the benefit of family and those who place their trust in you is a concept that the left (and apparently some in the various media,left and right)cannot comprehend;there are stll some people to whom honor is still important.People like Sarah Palin.

DDT on July 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Ben Franklin said that. It’s not a Biblical concept at all.

Daggett on July 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

It pretty much parallels the writtings of Paul.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

You have a major problem. Drop it.

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Wow….gee, of course. Gosh, I am humbled and chastened.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Hey now Cheddar head! Not all us Viking Fans get our tickets at the welfare agency. Besides it gets Franken out of the state for awhile. Sadly with the fools in DC he won’t stand out too much.

VikingGoneWild on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

LOL…No offense, but Palin is used to the great outdoors, not sitting in that ugly bubble.

Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I enjoyed witnessing the fallacy of MSNBC Andrea Mitchell’s reliable inside source!

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Yeah, that was great. The sub for Rush today said he hasn’t subbed in a while because he’s been busy with his MSNBC show. Then he laughed and said that nobody in Rush’s audience would have any idea if he had an MSNBC show or not, and he could get away with saying he did forever, because nobody watches that channel.

Go Ahn-Dray-Ah Mitchell! (almost as insufferable as Babs Walters)

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I’m not sure, I wasn’t speaking of you specifically. You must agree though that she has many rabid supporters.

jonknee on July 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM

She has even more rabid detractors.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Has nothing to do with free will.
If God is indeed soveriegn, then he can arrange events to help or hurt a campaign. He can also soften and harden hearts to make them more or less open to a person’s message.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

That’s pretty much what the author said: “Whether Sarah wills or no, if God wants her to be president she will be president. Whether anyone wills or no, Sarah will be president if God wills it.”

You say the same thing: He can also soften and harden hearts to make them more or less open to a person’s message.

By which you mean – No Free Will for the electorate.

I’m not saying that you’re right or wrong, just translating.

jaime on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Has nothing to do with free will.
If God is indeed soveriegn, then he can arrange events to help or hurt a campaign. He can also soften and harden hearts to make them more or less open to a person’s message.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Okay we are playing the “If” game. Is God sovereign?

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

So let’s start attacking Obama and the socialists again. Palin will do whatever she’s gonna do.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Tutti, da capo al fine!

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Yes Divine Right states that God’s Will put them in power

Palin has never suggested divine right. But a lot of people today don’t really “hear” too well when it comes to faith and belief in a higher power or how that fits in.

That was obvious from the Gibson interview. He misinterpreted, peering disdainfully over his glasses while doing so.

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I was just getting fitted up for my Brown Shirt. Who does this Palin chick think she is?

faraway on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

So let’s start attacking Obama and the socialists again. Palin will do whatever she’s gonna do.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Perfect. Besides capntrade and Obamacare, we have another stimulus and foreign treaties without Senate approval to deal with.

genso on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

I got it. She’s going national. It’s entirely too early to announce that she’s going to run, but it was clear as crystal that is exactly what she’s going to do.

Then, McCain couldn’t have been clearer. He said, “She’s taking a leadership role.”

What’s confusing?

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Taking a national role does not imply an electoral run. I’ve little doubt she’ll have a national role, but not as an elected official.

Had she resigned a year from now and stated that she didn’t want to neglect her duties as governor while preparing for an election, few would’ve questioned it. Most of us would see it as perfectly reasonable and responsible.

That she resigned now and for the reasons she gave pretty much destroyed any chance at a 2012 run- so much so that I doubt she’d have done it if she had any intention of running.

To believe the Palinistas, you’d have to accept one of two possibilities:

1. No matter what reasons she gave, the real reason was to build national standing in preparation for a run at President.

Problems: It comes across as very opportunistic to resign from the office you were elected to with 16 months left to go. It also opens the door to criticism that she’s too inexperienced- she’d have well under a single term under her belt, and a 3.5 year gap between her resignation and the next election.

2. She resigned for the reasons she stated, but still intends to run for President.

Problem: It raises the obvious (and not easily countered) problem that if the pressure of Alaskan governor was so hard on her that she quit, why would voters entrust her to be President of the US, the most powerful position on Earth?

Hollowpoint on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Just because you don’t know what Sarah Palin is doing doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know what she’s doing.

It also doesn’t mean that this was a good idea.

Boxy_Brown on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Like it or not, independents decide elections. And like it or not, many of them…many..who might otherwise identify with Republicans do not vote Republican because of their irrational, medi-driven fear of evangelicals.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Google ARIS 2008 (American Religious Identification Survey) sometime.

Couple of highlights- 76% of Americans self-identify as “Christian.”
70% describe themselves as believing in a “personal God.”

Not sure of the independent/libertarian crosstabs on this issue, but please forgive me for failing to understand how espousing similar beliefs as 2/3-3/4 of the voting populace is going to pose an insurmountable obstacle to gaining office.

cs89 on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

I wonder if Joan of Arc was as hot as Sarah?

44Magnum on July 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

That’s a straight line if I ever saw one.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM

I don’t care to be honest, she was never going to be able to make it through a general election anyway. I just find it interesting to see people self destruct. Moreover, I also find it interesting to watch rapid supporters struggle to play defense after being confronted with the growing realization that their dreams of the future are never going to be realized. It’s fun to watch, but that’s about it.

jonknee on July 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM

You care deeply otherwise why are you on a conservative website posting on a thread about Sarah Palin? Your a liar.

I don’t care about cooking chinese food but I just happen to read and post on a website talking about just that.
Doesn’t make sense does it and neither do you

kangjie on July 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM

I just have to comment on how magnificent that shot of her is on this page…. Venus….

CynicalOptimist on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Andrea Mitchell is heinous. Nonetheless, Ed used her for a thread where I wrote that I would very much enjoy finding her to be WRONG.

maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

To believe the Palinistas, you’d have to accept one of two possibilities:

1. No matter what reasons she gave, the real reason was to build national standing in preparation for a run at President.

Problems: It comes across as very opportunistic to resign from the office you were elected to with 16 months left to go. It also opens the door to criticism that she’s too inexperienced- she’d have well under a single term under her belt, and a 3.5 year gap between her resignation and the next election.

2. She resigned for the reasons she stated, but still intends to run for President.

Hollowpoint on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Do me a favor. As a “Palinista”, don’t tell me what I’m thinking or believing. You suck at it.

I don’t know if Palin plans to run in 2012. What I do believe is that she is going to act as kingmaker in 2010 to take Congress back.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Just a question and a comment. I started reading this thread and thought it was about Palin. Now from what I’m reading it’s about religion & some very deep doctrines, I might add. Who changed the thread topic? :)

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Clearly God helps those that cannot help themselves, my only point. :)

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Ok. My point was with regard to Sarah’s faith.

gh on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

It also doesn’t mean that this was a good idea.
Boxy_Brown on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Good for her or good for you?

Define “good”.

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Some of you alleged “Palin supporters” are sounding like lefties using Axelrod “Concerned Christian” script.
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Some of you alleged sane people are sounding like the Obama supporters who believe that their candidate is genetically incapable of performing anything less than perfectly 100% of the time.

Hollowpoint on July 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM

but please forgive me for failing to understand how espousing similar beliefs as 2/3-3/4 of the voting populace is going to pose an insurmountable obstacle to gaining office.

Quite right…I totally forgot how those putative religious-identification numbers resulted in landslide after landslide for Republicans reaching all the way back to, oh, 1992.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I am completely baffled by those that think Palin’s statement regarding her decision is completely incoherent.
aelhues on July 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

People tend to see what they want to see.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Boxy_Brown

Good nic.

jaime on July 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

There’s no paper without the writers, or the readers.

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Absolutely. Hotair is my primary source of news at the moment. Ed and Allah seem to pick up on almost everything that is relevent.

I suppose Kos covers much of the same stuff …

gh on July 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Exactly, but honestly, the less said about personal religious beliefs, the better.

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

You act as if religious belief is something that must be hidden.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

I also find it interesting to watch rapid supporters struggle to play defense after being confronted with the growing realization that their dreams of the future are never going to be realized. It’s fun to watch, but that’s about it.

Me too in regards to Ogabe; unemployed supporters of his realizing he can’t produce a single, promised job or deliver the utopia that bought their votes.

Bishop on July 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Please tell me why we should believe anything that comes from the mouths of these brain impaired pundits and serving politicians. Neither group has been reliably correct about anything and we’ve ended up in a sewer of sinking debt and discontent. Palin doesn’t play their game and that has made them nervous and uncertain. I say drive on Sarah, you’re a much needed rebel and you have enormous support from millions of real people.

rplat on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

How can his will and God’s will be the same? Or did God take 2008 off? What does he will and what doesn’t he will? Its so hard to decipher between the two you’d think his will is random. And why can’t he just will all the time?

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM

God will put his will to the side in order not to violate ours. You wonder why Obama is prez? Because God loves you enough to let you exercise your will. The will of the American people was Obama. God will allow you do do your thing, don’t cry when what you do results in what it does. The responsibility lies on us, not Him.

jimmy2shoes on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Perfect. Besides capntrade and Obamacare, we have another stimulus and foreign treaties without Senate approval to deal with.

genso on July 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

and honduras and iran. And Obama is seriously screwing up each one.

-Sic semper tyrannus-

JiangxiDad on July 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Do me a favor. As a “Palinista”, don’t tell me what I’m thinking or believing. You suck at it.

I don’t know if Palin plans to run in 2012. What I do believe is that she is going to act as kingmaker in 2010 to take Congress back.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I was referring to those who maintain- in the face of all improbability- that she can have a successful run in 2012.

As far as her “kingmaker” status, it didn’t exactly work for McCain, did it? Exactly how much influence does she currently have outside Republican and/or conservative circles?

She’ll have a national role to play, but I suspect it’ll be in the form of rallying the base.

Hollowpoint on July 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Like it or not, independents decide elections. And like it or not, many of them…many..who might otherwise identify with Republicans do not vote Republican because of their irrational, medi-driven fear of evangelicals.

guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I didn’t indicate whether I liked it or not, I challenged you to provide some evidence to back up your assertion.

It flies in the face of most of the data I have seen on the subject.

Talking about religion may horrify those you hang with, it doesn’t for most of the country.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Just a question and a comment. I started reading this thread and thought it was about Palin. Now from what I’m reading it’s about religion & some very deep doctrines, I might add. Who changed the thread topic? :)

bluefox on July 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Thread topic hasn’t changed, read what the author of the post wrote.

LevStrauss on July 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

guntotinglibertarian:If we can’t have Sarah,Tammy sounds like a good second choice.I wonder if she as good a shot as Sarah though
I would say that its too bad someone that hot is gay,but what chance would I have anyway?None.

DDT on July 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM

SHHHHHHH! Don’t tell them there are things they can’t understand..Their heads will explode!

GoodBoy on July 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Judging from the quality of his posts, I’m afraid the explosion has already occurred.

MarkTheGreat on July 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Problem: It raises the obvious (and not easily countered) problem that if the pressure of Alaskan governor was so hard on her that she quit, why would voters entrust her to be President of the US, the most powerful position on Earth?

I watched Obama’s campaign. He never did squat, hardly found his senate office, said he wasn’t going to run (clearly lying), and nobody cared.

I think you’re “slicing and dicing” too much.

AnninCA on July 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM

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