Obama: Hey, let’s bypass the Senate on treaty ratifications
posted at 2:40 pm on July 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
After listening to the Democrats screech for the last two years about the rule of law, this Jake Tapper report should be surprising …. but it’s not. Apparently, Barack Obama finds treaty ratification a little too complicated, and so he figures he can just commit the US to nuclear disarmament and bypass Congressional oversight:
With the clock running out on a new US-Russian arms treaty before the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires on December 5, a senior White House official said Sunday said that the difficulty of the task might mean temporarily bypassing the Senate’s constitutional role in ratifying treaties by enforcing certain aspects of a new deal on an executive levels and a “provisional basis” until the Senate ratifies the treaty.
“The most ideal situation would be to finish it in time that it could be submitted to the Senate so that it can be ratified,” said White House Coordinator for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Security and Arms Control Gary Samore. “If we’re not able to do that, we’ll have to look at arrangements to continue some of the inspection provisions, keep them enforced in a provisional basis, while the Senate considers the treaty.”
Samore said administration lawyers are exploring the “different options that are available. One option is that both sides could agree to continue the inspections by executive agreement; that would work on our side. On the Russian side, as I understand it, that would require Duma approval.”
The fact that the administration is preparing for such an extraordinary measure shows just how much pressure the two administrations are under to arrive at an agreement before the 18-year-old treaty expires.
Uh, pardon me, but how many seats in the Senate does Obama’s party hold? Isn’t it 60? If Obama is simply moving forward with a straightforward, supportable treaty with Russia to reduce nuclear stockpiles in an effective verification system, why couldn’t he get a quick ratification? The GOP gave George H. W. Bush enough support in 1991 to pass the original START treaty, so it’s not as if ratification would be impossibly complicated.
Well, that is, if the deal actually does put in place an effective verification system and doesn’t amount to a de facto unilateral disarmament. With exactly five months to win Senate approval, the effort by the Obama White House in floating this idea now makes it sound like Obama wants to give away the store in order to score some points with his 1980s no-nukes agenda. And as much as the Democrats howled over the supposed devotion of George Bush to a “unitary executive,” Obama seems to have no trouble bypassing the check on executive power for treaty negotiation written explicitly into the Constitution, in Article II, Section 2:
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
Words. Just words.










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Hmmm…. excellent thought… gonna have to consider this a bit…
Question becomes… what is his objective?
The Constitution?
World Government?
Personal Power?
Destruction of America?
or, are they all inter related.
Romeo13 on July 5, 2009 at 11:59 PM
transcript is going to be hard…it was “on air” interview with telesur…will try to find video on youtube…not holding my breath though….
elduende on July 5, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Veterinarian’s diagnose Klingon’s?
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Obama’s response: Uhhh, American’s want clean air, Uhhhh
The American’s I know do not want to join the unwashed masses of the world. Obama needs to be deported back to Kenya, where he can fulfill hi father’s dreams. Here Obama is just a nightmare.
izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 12:00 AM
The scenario is pretty much spelled out in the Cloward-Piven strategy.
Read the article at this link, and then consider that Obama is connected to all these people, including Frances Fox Piven, George Soros, etc.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967
Here’s the short version:
Daggett on July 6, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Think positive! By 2015 impeachment will be so easily prosecuted even the morons on the democrat side of the isle will agree!
Griz on July 6, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Got a nice catty chuckle today when I read on the AP that Michelle would probably not take the Russian capital by storm fashion wise. Yes! I know y’all don’t care but I enjoy opportunities to criticize Michelle… it’s something of a hobby.
jeanie on July 6, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Obama had Jackson killed.
izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 12:03 AM
If I wasn’t an atheist I would think that he was a gift from God to me.
PootyPoot on July 6, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I think it’s about 50/50 here at HotAir. There are two schools of thought: 1) That Obama is an incompetent bumbling idiot that tries his best but can’t to anything right. 2) Obama may not be brilliant, but he’s smart enough to have a goal in mind that he’s working toward, and actions that may seem incompetent to us probably fit into his plan.
I think that argument 1 is fast losing credibility, if it has any left at all. Even an drunken, incompetent stumble bum occasionally stumbles down the correct path to home. Obama never does, and he never seems to regret his “incompetence” or try to correct it. It seems that his actions have intent, it’s just that they’re so foreign to the way most American’s think that they can’t see it.
That’s why the situation in Honduras, combines with what happened in Iran, (but Honduras is the tipping point, IMO), is so revealing. Many American’s don’t recognize what Obama is trying to transform our nation into. They simply don’t have any experience with it and don’t know much about history or the wisdom of our founding fathers and why they structured our government as they did. American’s may be increasingly uneasy with Obama’s domestic policies, but they haven’t connected them to his intent yet, so he is still very popular.
But in Honduras Obama’s intent becomes clear. American’s, instead of being unable to see the forest through the trees that they are encompassed by, they can see in Honduras the entire forest. In that forest is a wannabe dictator aligned with present dictators in nearby forests, and all of them allies of Obama—fighting against a long-time American ally trying to preserve a Democratic Constitutional Republic not very different than our own.
FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 12:05 AM
No, but you know Rahm…
as in “never let a crises go to waste…”
Romeo13 on July 6, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Sorry for that, old fraud. Where will you be scattering his ashes?
RushBaby on July 6, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Just in…
Limerick on July 5,2009 at 11:46PM.
Limerick: Pardon me Lim,while I go out on the edge!
I was hopeing by now,that the US,had an orbital lazer platform,or at least mini-ICBM’s platform,where said
target can be tracked,targetted,and toasted from space.
Also,President Bush,ordered some ballistic subs,to convert
the nuclear warheads to conventional,with the mission in mind,to strike any part of the globe,within a half hour strike time to target!(forgot,that would be SLBM).
For the purpose of striking any hotspots,terrorist relate
d I would imagine!!
—————————————————
So far,Obama wants to get rid of ‘America’s Ultimate
Insurance Policies’!
Nuclear Weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is not the Military Build-Up President,but the
Military Tear-down President!!
canopfor on July 6, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Yep. The Elephants are not to be found. The RNC and the GOP are so gawddamned busy testing the wind with a wet finger that they forgot what direction is the one they are looking for. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 12:10 AM
On the bright and positive side!
The Socialist Liberal Democrat Party is on parade,
for the entire world,to view,their true intentions!
The Good,The Bad,The Ugly,and every other Lefty policy
in-between!
canopfor on July 6, 2009 at 12:11 AM
How do Obama’s Tsar’s get paid? Whose budget does their pay come out of? Cut their budget, cut the Tsar’s out and lets get back to our Constitution and Congressional oversight.
Money is the root of all evil. Cut out the money, kill the root and end a bit of evil that these Tsars will do to the US.
journeyintothewhirlwind on July 6, 2009 at 12:11 AM
On the plus side, if the system comes down and anarchy takes over, just imagine what our side could accomplish in the chaos?
jeanie on July 6, 2009 at 12:12 AM
His family, very orthodox religious people, plan on burying his remains at night in an undisclosed location due to the shame of his having committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head 18 times with a revolver…
Sigmund on July 6, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Somebody on Fox News wondered today, (paraphrasing), “Obama contradicted himself in the same sentence. He said that the worse [of the recession] is already behind us and that unemployment will rise over 10%.”
They were trying to “square the circle”.
I wanted to tell them to read 1984, Rules for Radicals and the Cloward Piven Strategy(sp).
FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 12:13 AM
*nods solemnly in approval*
RushBaby on July 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Define our side…
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Sad….but true. I search for answers but everything points to a long dark night. Praying that I’m wrong but wise enough to prepare that I’m right.
Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I think you have a great point here.
This article relates to your point:
U.N. ‘Climate Change’ Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy
Friday , March 27, 2009
By George Russell
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510937,00.htmlget_a(300,250,“frame1″);
I think most people realize that the Obama administration is dependent on crises and propaganda to enact their socialist agenda.Some of the problem with this has been figuring out exactly what their agenda is so that it can be exposed and stopped.
Little by little the radical agenda of our marxist and chief is coming to light.
Baxter Greene on July 6, 2009 at 12:15 AM
If the system comes down, I’m going to go and get all the chocolate, rum and diet coke I can find and settle down and watch.
jeanie on July 6, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Coincidentally I’ve just been reading “Julius Caesar: The Battle For Gaul“, and it was startlng how honestly Caesar reported the thinking of his opponents about the Romans, specifically the nobleman from Gaul, Critognatus, comparing earlier attackers with the Caesarian assault:
“The Cimbri devastated our land and did us great harm, but they did, in the end, leave our country and move on elsewhere. They left us our freedom, with our own rights and laws and land. But what the Romans are after is quite different. They are motivated by envy. They know that we are renowned and powerful in war. So what they want is to settle in our land among our tribes, and bind us in slavery forever… cowering under the domination of Rome”
Obama would never dare document, with such accuracy, anyone’s contrary opinion of him, or a critical analysis of his motives.
profitsbeard on July 6, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Better get your chocolate, rum and diet coke now, because when it all comes down, it aint going to be available.
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 12:17 AM
I guarantee you Putin thinks Obammy is a dumb negro lightweight
As for Michelle, given how racist and cynical Russians are, she’ll be lucky if they don’t pelt her motorcade with bananas on the way into Moscow.
I’m just dying to hear exactly how BHO will “apologize” to Putin.
guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Very gently as Putin makes mad passionate love with bummers behind.
izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 12:21 AM
You see it. I see it. Barry, on the other hand, looks at Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt on that hillside and knows what they did wrong. Come hell or high water he will correct it. I do believe that, for which I’ll probably be noticed, and not fondly. I refuse to hide behind the ridge.
Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Fine, just be damned quick when you need to duck.
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Remember that fascist word… Well here it is again. Complete and utter control of our lives… and with no end to his ambition for power in sight.
Obama is the biggest mistake this country has ever made.
Can we survive?
petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:25 AM
If Obama does not mend his ways he will find out that there are worse things than being thrown from office, friends. With my little green ring will take him apart molecule by molecule and then put him back together again. And maybe I put him back together right and maybe I don’t. But he’ll be alive and conscious for every second of it.
HalJordan on July 6, 2009 at 12:25 AM
That pretty much sums up his entire Presidency.
infidel4life on July 6, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Nope. You might as well stick a fork in The United States of America, cause we are soooooo done…..
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Are you familiar with Obama’s background? The Marxists that mentored him and he looked up to, for example? Are you aware that he trained ACORN activists Alinsky’s tactics from Rules for Radicals?
It seems to me like giving Obama the benefit of the doubt is far fetched. You can’t separate a man from his past. A guy can’t just wake up one day and decide to be something completely different. He’s a product of his upbringing. If he appears to suddenly change it’s probably part of a strategy.
FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Transparency!
Most Ethical Adminisatration ever!
–Nancy ‘Palimino’ Pelosi!!
canopfor on July 6, 2009 at 12:30 AM
There was a reason that Obambi could not get out the oath of office in January.
jukin on July 6, 2009 at 12:33 AM
I was afraid of that. I was checking out YouTube on the Honduras situation a few days ago, though, and there was a bunch of mostly pro Zelaya videos. I wouldn’t be surprised if you found one.
FloatingRock on July 6, 2009 at 12:34 AM
God, don’t let Hugo know that someone else is luvvin’ up his biotch.
guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Why doesn’t HA just have a permanent we-hate-obammy thread?
Seems every thread turns into that, anyway.
With good reason
guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 12:37 AM
God save the Republic!
G’nite, HotAirHeads….
Limerick on July 6, 2009 at 12:37 AM
This is what keeps me up at night.
Miss Molly on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM
could not get out the oath of office in January.
jukin on July 6,2009 at 12:33AM.
jukin: Good point,I wonder what else Obama has been
busy doin,behind closed doors,with Rahm at his
side,planning anmd plotting!!:)
canopfor on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM
G’nite. And be sure to close the closet door…there are Obamatrons lurking therein…
:-)
coldwarrior on July 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Nite Limerick:)
canopfor on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM
To stick a fork in white America. Geez, I thought you guys knew that already.
guntotinglibertarian on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Why is everything a crisis and have to be done under the table? By passing the Senate does not even make sense under these circumstances. Obama just wants to be king. Or Emperor. He ran for the wrong office.
Next election the office of All Knowing Monarch will replace President. Just to be sure we all understand what’s up.
I miss George Bush.
petunia on July 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Sleep well, Limerick.
Do Obamabots dream of electric acorns?
profitsbeard on July 6, 2009 at 12:49 AM
I don’t know who this we at Hot Air is. Did you used to be nonfactor?
Jaibones on July 6, 2009 at 1:07 AM
I think they are getting ready for a three way.
izoneguy on July 6, 2009 at 1:59 AM
Has this jackass even GLANCED at The Constitution?
Sorry, 0bama, but, unlike The Rev, the founding document upon which we built this republic just can’t be thrown under the bus when you deem it an “inconvenience” to your agenda.
SuperCool on July 6, 2009 at 4:51 AM
Obviously he believes his agenda is more important than the Constitution. That’s what makes him so dangerous.
infidel4life on July 6, 2009 at 5:18 AM
We are more of a dictatorship than Russia is now. That is good to know.
Sic Puppy on July 6, 2009 at 5:30 AM
Your updates and translations have been invaluable. Thanks, elduende.
It’s ironic that Chavez would call opponents to his iron-fisted rule and seizure of Venezuela’s economic sectors fascists. Chavez himself is the fascist.
I wonder if Obama has read (or committed to memory) the book that his newest best buddy Chavez gave him not so long ago.
Obama has allied himself (and us by virtue of his being our head of state) with an axis of despots.
onlineanalyst on July 6, 2009 at 5:50 AM
Let’s not forget that John Kerry, honcho of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, believes in the “global test.” Kerry was/is also a supporter of Ortega. Traitor Kerry should have been tried for treason way back in the ’70′s when he was conducting negotiations in Paris.
onlineanalyst on July 6, 2009 at 6:04 AM
Let’s see how many times THIS violates the Constitution.
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 14
Congress shall have the power; To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 18
Congress shall have the power; To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Article 1, Section 1
All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Article 6, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.
So Obama is attempting to violate the Constitution ANOTHER FOUR TIMES.
That makes 32 Violations of the Constitution since January 20, 2009.
AMAZING…and who in Congress has said a single word of protest?
nelsonknows on July 6, 2009 at 6:53 AM
Make that 5 more adding to 33 Violations of the Constitution
nelsonknows on July 6, 2009 at 6:54 AM
The comments on Tapper’s blog are questioning the same thing. Why, with a 60 seat super majority, does Obama have to “bi-pass” the Senate?
LiquidH2O on July 6, 2009 at 7:13 AM
He wants to set a precedent for doing it in other cases.
Daggett on July 6, 2009 at 7:21 AM
He wants to set a precedent for doing it in other cases.
Daggett on July 6, 2009
Does he need to get a foot in the door? Hell, I thought he had already taken over the easy chair, grabbed the remote and was drinking our beer.
SKYFOX on July 6, 2009 at 7:57 AM
This the newest topic again…..0 Ifeel like it’s Groundhog Day
Jeff from WI on July 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Fourth of July weekend is a very slow blogging day, the new topic isnt up yet this one is a holdover from the weekend.
doriangrey on July 6, 2009 at 8:05 AM
Colonel Obama doesn’t need no stinking Constitution …
tarpon on July 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM
Hey all… You might want to read up on Executive Agreements:
http://www.library.unt.edu/research-tools/class-pages/blaw-4480-international-business-law/u-s-treaties-and-executive-agreements/
mycowardice on July 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM
Hey all… You might want to read up on Executive Agreements:
mycowardice on July 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM
It’s the second one he’s all over the map with:
There is no restriction on the President’s authority to make such agreements, as long as they do not violate or alter any existing law or treaty.
This clause is just a speed bump to him.
itsspideyman on July 6, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Baxter Greene on July 6, 2009 at 12:15 AM
The link you posted to the March 27th Fox story is broken. Here is the link to that story.
Or, if you want to copy and paste it:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510937,00.html
Trochilus on July 6, 2009 at 10:09 AM
The rise of President Barack Hussein Zelaya Palpatine.
Zelaya, after the Honduran President that wants to scrap that nation’s Constitution. Palpatine, after the Star Wars Chancellor who shouted “I am the Senate!”.
The Revenge of the Sith has begun, in the Republic of AmeriKKKa.
Steve Z on July 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM
More proof that this person does not have our (the American Public) best interest in anything he does, he does it to U.S. not with U.S.
I am sure the Senate (who now has Sen. Frankin to provide the humor they have been missing for years) appreciates President Obama remarks too.
MSGTAS on July 6, 2009 at 10:27 AM
And across the land the cries of revolution began.
Blackhawk45 on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM
More tricks he learned at ACORN.
bluegrass on July 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM
And across the land the cries of revolution began.
Blackhawk45 on July 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Backdoor deals with Russia WTF? Is no one going to bring the courts down on this Obamanation?
LSUMama on July 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Obama, after abandoning the Constitution now decides that there should be only ONE branch of government.
Wake up America!!!!
All this in as little as 6 months.
Gulf Coast on July 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Hoarse and ready.
T J Green on July 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM
I have a sense of deja vu in this thread that makes this repost appropriate:
Well, I think there you have it. Obama is a “scholar” of the Constitution in the same sense that Patton was an expert on Rommel. One must know one’s enemy in order to destroy it.
Blacklake on May 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM
No joke. He has also studied how power can be leveraged in a society and is trying to effectively wrest control over centers of gravity and exploit our critical vulnerabilities in the same way warfighters operate.
“The most important task confronting campaign planners in this process is being able to identify friendly and adversary strategic centers of gravity; that is, the sources of strength, power, and resistance.”
The whole Cloward-Piven Strategy with Alinsky’s tactics is really a form of warfare with the end goal of making the Constitution moot and/or collapsing the society. So when people wonder why it seems like Obama is essentially waging a 100 Day Campaign against America from inside the White House, it’s basically because he is.
econavenger on May 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM
marklmail on July 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM
An “Executive Agreement” ‘nor ANY Executive Order CANNOT ‘nor MAY NOT supercede the CONSTITUTION.
It’s WAY past time that the U.S. takes an Example from Honduras, Obama has at LEAST 32 MORE Constitutional violations on deck, Obama needs to go and unlike what’s been done in Honduras with Zelaya, Obama needs to spend the rest of his life in a jail cell.
nelsonknows on July 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM
OK, so HOW do we kick dis bum outta here and into a cell ??
Do we fly him out of the country ??
Someplace that will actually waterboard, or worse ??
ARRGGGGHH !!!
pambi on July 6, 2009 at 6:35 PM
The Russians think we’ve sent a baffoon to negotiate with them. They’re right.
Griz on July 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM
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