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Why do you resort to name-calling?

Send_Me on July 6, 2009 at 7:15 PM

That isn’t name calling, that is a descriptive term.
You see things only in your way, you think Sarah on stage with her children is “parading them”, tell me, when a pastor brings his children to the pulpit, is he “parading them”?

I said your line of thinking, that we should be able to parade our kids around the national scene, on television shows of ill repute, without any consequences, without anyone making any derogatory comments.

You are the kind of person who would have verbally attacked my daughter. She wore nice clothes, dressed sharp, and was blessed with great looks…you would have punished her for that, because she attracted attention. Like Sarah, people are drawn to her, good looking, good speaker, dresses sharp, and successful.
Some people are blessed with the ability (a gift) to lead, and with that leadership comes others, like you, with jealousy and envy…you read the bible so that should have be very clear to you.
You have fallen into the “envy” group that the bible speaks of so often.
Let go of your legalistic views, Jesus fought, and died so people like you would learn not to be so demeaning, so legalistic, so closed minded…He is the One who reached out to the whore…and you are the one who was picking up the stone…He was talking to you, get it, it was YOU!
If you were the man you say you are, you would drop to your knees and ask for forgiveness in persecuting someone you never met, someone who has never done you harm, someone that Jesus loves and has asked that you love her….but you won’t, pride won’t let you.
Now that you are reading the bible, try applying it….start now.

I may be broke, but I’m not flat chested

These are the things that drive me nuts…you better check your resources.

manofaiki on July 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Thank You for your post. But many here thought she should have waited until she ACTUALLY went bankrupt before seeing the light.

And now they are mad because she would not stand still for the stoning. Darn that Sarah, she moved and the stones missed the intended target. Now the Left is more freaked than they were before.

The enemy of my enemies is my friend. The greatest enemy of the socialist liberals is thus my heroine.

“The transcript from Governor Sarah Palin’s resignation speech that was cited on WSJ.com came directly from the governor’s Web site that her office had originally posted on Friday.”

No nefarious plot, no “tampering” with the transcript. Just Palin’s office putting up one version and later using a different one.
*****

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM

You poor dear. You came to this site and left a slew of rude and idiotic comments about your blog hosts (calling them “sexist”, “amatueurs”, “elitists”, “Married to a blue collar guy (that’s why beta males like AP hates her),”, “Poor journalistic integrity”, blah blah blah…) culminating with this insane charge:

Thanks, Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit, you traitors.
atheling on July 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM)

You then proceeded to call other commenters “misogynists”, a “LIAR” (after they expressed an opinion that your commentary isn’t all you think it’s cracked up to be), a “moron”, “a puffed up, arrogant, cynical, dishonest misogynist”…”contemptible”, and so forth, ad nauseam.

And you’re whining to me about decorum?

Unfreakingbelievable.

So you think a woman’s place is in the home…thank God, Jesus didn’t think that.

When you get the chance, please read Proverbs 31, Ephesians 5 and 6, 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1 and 2. Also, a good book: “Passionate Housewives Desperate for God” by Jennie Chancey and Stacy McDonald.
Feminism has done more to destroy families than Hollywood ever could, but then again feminism and socialism are inextricably linked, but I digress.

Until you raise a daughter, until you have walked in those shoes, until you say to your daughter, you can’t go to the prom because God told me so…then reserve your contempt for someone who had done the “right” thing

Another book (I know you said earlier that I wasn’t well read) is this: “Logic: The Right Use of Reason in the Inquiry of Truth” by Isaac Watts.
Here’s the problem with your argument: you’re implying that just because I haven’t “experienced” something that I don’t know what to do. That’s like saying that since I’ve never had a grease fire in the kitchen that I don’t know how to put one out until I’ve had to do it before.
Do I know everything? Absolutely not, but I know where to find the answers and whom to approach for wisdom, which is to say, not Cosmo or Oprah.

Your religion so narrow minded that when a mistake is made, a 17 year old gets pregnant, you blame the parents?

I remember two things that stuck out to me during Greta Van Susteren’s mini-documentary about Palin: (1) Palin’s tshirt that said, “I may be broke, but I’m not flat chested”, and (2) a conversation between Gov. Palin and her husband one evening in the kitchen that went like this, “So, have you heard from Bristol this evening?” “No, I haven’t seen nor heard from her at all.” My wife and I looked at each other thinking the same thing, “Hmmm, yeah, there’s a recipe for trouble.”

Where did I ever say, or where did I ever even hint that Palin’s daughters can or have dressed like whores.

You didn’t. Read what I said again. I said your line of thinking, that we should be able to parade our kids around the national scene, on television shows of ill repute, without any consequences, without anyone making any derogatory comments. I wish the world worked that way, I really do. But you know what? I don’t stand outside the bear cages at the zoo with a porterhouse tied to my arm. We live in a real world. I wouldn’t parade my kids around on the national media scene, especially knowing how corrupt it is, just as I would not allow my sons and daughters to wear sensual clothing. Not once did I say that the Palin kids dressed inappropriately.

You, young man, are quite the Neanderthal…
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Why do you resort to name-calling?

as opposed to gallivanting on the campaign trail or in an office somewhere.

Send_Me on July 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM

So you think a woman’s place is in the home…thank God, Jesus didn’t think that. They were the only ones who tended to Him, the only ones who went to the cave, the only ones who did not deny Him. Remember when he stoned that “whore”?, no neither do I, but I do remember Him honoring her.
Until you raise a daughter, until you have walked in those shoes, until you say to your daughter, you can’t go to the prom because God told me so…then reserve your contempt for someone who had done the “right” thing. Your religion so narrow minded that when a mistake is made, a 17 year old gets pregnant, you blame the parents? What strange God awful religion do you belong to?
Want to see your logic, here:

By your logic I should let my daughters dress like whores and expect that every boy out there will act like a gentleman towards her

Where did I ever say, or where did I ever even hint that Palin’s daughters can or have dressed like whores. Why would you think Bristol dresses like a whore (she is 14 years old, my goodness you are sick), what strange image comes to mind…and how can you be so narrow minded that only girls who dress like whores get pregnant.
You, young man, are quite the Neanderthal…

When you run for political office, people do want to know about your family…but maybe you aren’t very well read.

Well, now that you mention it, I do look at how well a person with leadership ambitions manages his/her home…

This attack, that you apparently approve of, has never been done before.
It is inconceivable that any real man would condone the vilification of a 14 year old girl…you are quite the man.

Who’s condoning such things? Again, yet another ad hominem.

So her daughter being on stage, is now set up to be “free game” for rapist jokes

Not at all. I don’t think it’s very prudent though. By your logic I should let my daughters dress like whores and expect that every boy out there will act like a gentleman towards her. As a wise man I know put it: if I’m looking for a policeman, I’ll look for the guy wearing the policeman uniform. If a person were looking for a streetwalker, then for what would he look? (Answer: not my daughters.)

You whine about a feminist, so she doesn’t leave her kids at home, but Trig is now a useless human, a “retard”, a prop for her mom…

You’re doing all the talking.

YOu don’t have an 17 year old daughter, do you…and when you are deployed, how do you accomplish this?

Nope, I don’t. It starts when they are young. I’ll show her what a real man is. I’ll show her what to expect in a husband by loving my wife more than any other person on this earth. Here are two books you may appreciate: “What He Must Be… If He Wants to Marry my Daughter” by Voddie Baucham and “Shepherding a Child’s Heart” by Ted Tripp.

And how do you protect your daughter while overseas? I think you will depend on your wife to do that, let’s hope she is as good as mom and as protective as Sarah Palin
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

I’ll depend upon my wife and the elders of my church. My wife is far more capable of protecting our children than Palin was of hers, mainly because she’ll actually be home with them, as opposed to gallivanting on the campaign trail or in an office somewhere.

They saw an opportunity and they took it.

An ethics complaint system that allows people to file charges against public officials as often as they like, and even if after subsequent investigation no abuses were found, the filee was only out of pocket for their own court costs; the public official found blameless got not ONE RED CENT and ended up having to pay for their legal representation out of their own pocket.

A system set up to allow the poor to sue the powerful and suffer no repercussions whatsoever.

Of course liberals have promptly abused it.

With Sarah Palin as their target, they have filed over 18 ethics complaints against her in the past year. All investigate, all found baseless, all costing her a fortune.

Like I said – a BRILLIANT strategy for removing her from the scene as a viable political candidate by 2012.

Had she remained in office for the next two years, let’s take a bet as to how many total ethics complaints she would have faced and how deeply she’d be in the red trying to defend herself against them.

I’ll go first:

30 ethics complaints, and over $1,000,000 in debt.

Seeing a way to keep Palin under a cloud, under investigation, under suspicion, pinned down in Alaska constantly trying to defend herself, all the way up to and likely even past 2012, the Left has gone all-in in pursuing this strategy.

If she was thinking about a 2012 run for the White House, a 2 1/2 year long jihad against her by her states own Ethics Complaint System should disabuse her of that notion.

Not only would she be phoning in her job as Governor for 2 years, she’d be constantly having to direct her attention to the charges in Alaska and desperately fighting them, knowing that being unjustly convicted of one false charge – a real possibility, mind you – could derail her.

Like I said, whoever dreamed this up, speaking strictly from a strategic standpoint, it was BRILLIANT.

It was WORKING.

And now……as a strategy………it’s DEAD.

Way to go Sarah.

I think you have been overtly hostile and unfair to me. I have never called you names, nor have I resorted to the low level of insults you have. Clearly you demonstrate a species of antipathy towards me without any rational reason, so I guess I can put it down to your being just a rude b****.

I made an offhanded joke about your misspelling my name and the irony of it considering your own. You completely misread it by coming back with a rude insult. Why is that?

Why the antipathy? And if you are a Palin “supporter” as you claim, why the hostility towards those who support her? I have posted long, reasoned, substantial comments as to why Palin resigned. You and your ilk resort to ad hominem attacks, insults, and plain dissembling.

Clearly, you are an unreasonable, unjust person with a very thin skin.

Your responses remind me of the quote, “If you attempt an actual argument with a modern paper of opposite politics, you will have no answer except slanging or silence.”

Your MO resembles those “modern papers”. Your rudeness and unwarranted name calling only reveals your level of declasse.

Buy Danish on July 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I am new here. And from the hostile and rude comments you have directed towards me, it’s quite clear that you have problems – with me, apparently – even when I jokingly pointed out an ironic twist to your misspelling of my name and your name. You immediately responded in a rude and hostile manner without even pausing to think of what I was saying.

That tells me that you are either just a rude bitch, or have difficulty comprehending other people’s remarks without flying off the handle.

And you accuse me of being a “loon”? I have every good reason to suspect foul play by the media, and you have the blindness and gall to criticize me for it? Have you been asleep all year while Palin was savaged by them?

Oh no, you pretend it didn’t happen so you can insult and misconstrue my remarks, indicating some kind of antipathy you have for me.

I have made some solid, substantial comments as to why Palin resigned, and you and your ilk have taken the low road by engaging in ad hominems and obfuscating. I have never called you anything rude except now, because you have earned it. Never have I seen such derision and hostility towards conservatives except by the Left.

You’ve joined them, it seems, and your MO proves it.

impossible for her and her staff to effectively do their jobs and serve the people of Alaska. If we’re going to have an honest discussion, we can’t leave that out.

PackerBronco on July 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I agree. I see nothing in Sarah’s future that will help her abate the attacks. They are determined to destroy her and she is determined to protect her family.

Send_Me on July 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM

It was an analogy, analogy…they aren’t the same stories but have similar consequences.
If your family was attacked, you wouldn’t defend them?
Okay.
When you run for political office, people do want to know about your family…but maybe you aren’t very well read.
This attack, that you apparently approve of, has never been done before.
It is inconceivable that any real man would condone the vilification of a 14 year old girl…you are quite the man.
So her daughter being on stage, is now set up to be “free game” for rapist jokes, and you think that is okay…what a man.
You whine about a feminist, so she doesn’t leave her kids at home, but Trig is now a useless human, a “retard”, a prop for her mom…and you think that goes with the territory…you are quite the Man

I’ll never allow my daughters out on a date where she’ll be alone with a guy. I wouldn’t trust some snot-nosed 18-yr-old guy driving my truck by himself, so why would I allow him out with my daughter by himself?
5. I won’t allow my sons to go out with a girl where they’ll be alone. No, I wouldn’t trust him, because I wouldn’t trust his father either, who has a lot more to lose and is a lot older and wiser.

YOu don’t have an 17 year old daughter, do you…and when you are deployed, how do you accomplish this?
You have a lot to learn young man…a lot about life, family…the platitudes of this:

a prophet, priest, provider and protector.

So you are now a prophet? And how do you protect your daughter while overseas? I think you will depend on your wife to do that, let’s hope she is as good as mom and as protective as Sarah Palin, since you won’t be around.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 2:55 PM

I’m not going to apologize to you because you yourself are doing exactly what you accuse me and others of doing. Professor Miao has already addressed your hypocrisy in this regard.

For you to suggest that I am a “Palin basher”, with the implication being that this is a serial position on my part is a conclusion not based on the evidence. My comments on this thread were limited to how she chose to resign and what I felt was a poorly constructed speech.

It wasn’t the one comment you made about “tampering” with the transcript which led me to the conclusion that you are “loony” (like many Palin supporters). It was a conclusion I reached after reading a litany of commentary from you.

Moreover, your claim that I am “evading the issue” is unadulterated crap. I have done more research on this than you have, looking through various transcripts and checking to see what they say is the source of the transcript they published. I stated that it’s possible that Palin’s office had another version of the speech up originally which was posted in haste, with a clean version up now.

I have nothing to do with the media and thus have no “odd reason” (nor any reason!) to “protect them”. Indeed, I have even gone so far as to email the W.S.J. and ask for clarification on this and will let you know if I get a response.

As you are new to this blog you know nothing about what I have said about Palin in the past, and it is imprudent for you to make assumptions without knowing what you’re talking about. No doubt you’d be quite shocked to see that I have been very supportive of her. Like here. If you go through the thread you’ll see that I was irritated with Allah for not citing that letter himself, as I noted here.

With that, the sun is out and I’m off to the pool.

Later, maybe.

Yes, I was uncivil. I see you can recognize it when it’s directed at you. Good for you. You earned it.

ProfessorMiao on July 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Once again, thanks for proving that you’re no better than the Daily Kos Kooks and HuffPo lefties.

Some people are talking about fruit loops on another thread. Maybe you should try. I think you’d like it.

ProfessorMiao on July 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Don’t ever whine about civility again, you hypocrite.

atheling on July 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Yes, I was uncivil. I see you can recognize it when it’s directed at you. Good for you. You earned it.