Video: Matalin thinks Palin is “brilliant” for resigning
posted at 6:30 pm on July 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
And now, just to be fair, the other side of the argument. Posted without editorial comment; you already know my opinion as someone who had never written a post critical of Palin before yesterday, and if you don’t, feel free to click on the links in the Top Picks column. Mary Matalin offers this analysis, transcript via Crooks & Liars:
MATALIN: Well, I think it’s really brilliant, with two caveats, one being that there’s nothing else, ala the Sanford fiasco. There’s nothing else that we don’t know. If all that’s there is what we see right now, it’s brilliant.
And, secondly, that she has a plan and people have a plan to put up with the conventional wisdom, chatterati and the political class saying how stupid it is, because it’s brilliant.
On the substance, there’s the key economic issue — I know everyone says — thinks it’s health care, but it’s really energy. And she’s the queen of energy.
And the second big issue for 2012 will be the role of government. And she has a record of reform and ethics reform and making government smaller and reigning in spending — all those issues that are getting increasingly important as Barack Obama expands on his agenda.
So — and her delivery was incredible — a charis — a less charismatic person probably couldn’t pull it off. But as — as already referenced, she will be freed up and liberated in the way Mitt Romney is here to run around and raise money and get political chips by spending it and get political capital. And she is still raising the kinds of crowds and money that she always did.
Follow the link to C&L if you want to hear a rebuttal from David Gergen and Ed Rollins, the latter of whom has been around Republican campaigns for a very long time.
Update: My caveat in the opening paragraph wasn’t about getting “beat up”; I’m a big boy, and I can take honest criticism. It’s correcting the falsehood in the comment strings that I’ve been a Palin-hater. If people actually read what I’ve written about Palin over the past year, nothing could be further from the truth. I’m going to give people my honest opinion, no matter what.
As for using the clip from C&L, er, so what? This segment is from CNN. I couldn’t find it on YouTube or on CNN’s site when I had a few minutes to post. Someone asked me if I would be fair and post Matalin’s defense after our criticism of Palin, and I posted what I could find of it.
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PootyPoot on July 6, 2009 at 4:52 AM
I apologize to you and any other readers for hijacking. But there was a method to my idiocy.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 4:52 AM
Usted Presidente es un poco estupido chico.
VinyFoxy on July 6, 2009 at 4:53 AM
How fortunate for you. Perhaps you can attract a nice girl, fall in love and have little time travelers.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 4:54 AM
I’ll be the judge of that.
Sigmund on July 6, 2009 at 4:55 AM
I am not aware that you hijacked anything. I was talking about the unnameable entity that causes so much dissonance and dain brammage.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 4:55 AM
No, I date a girl then screw her then find another girl then screw her.
It works in cycles I guess.
TimeTraveler on July 6, 2009 at 4:56 AM
Not necessary. Already have my certificate.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 4:57 AM
I’m sorry. I did understand what you meant. But please try understand that I’m Catholic. Therefore, I confess that guilt is a near continuous experience.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:00 AM
If you’re going to use such language, I won’t play with you.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:02 AM
I am catholic too. I know guilt. In fact I feel guilt, not for my sins, but for not going to confession in a bazillion years. I forgot my sins its been so long.
So you may confess you sins right here on HA but for gods sake talk in code. I can assure that I won’t be able to figure it out.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 5:03 AM
LOL. Basically you just apologized for apologizing. I must be some kind of heretic. I hardly ever apologize and now I feel some guilt for not having done so.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 5:05 AM
Now might be a good time to come up with a name for the unnameable entity, since IT is gone. What say you.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 5:07 AM
Well, some of us did have a coded discussion about it, and agreed that it was very dangerous and best left untouched. Very few can handle it safely, yet too many either get caught unawares or think they can handle it. In either case, this feeds it, which keeps it going even longer. Good grief! So, I hope you can find some way to spread the word among your friends with tact.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:10 AM
This is a internet blog! Nothing is ever gone. All you have to do is Google it. Do you know how to bookmark an individual post for future reference? You click on the time stamp and then bookmark. And when seen, there is always the old saying, “Don’t feed the troll.”
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:14 AM
I apologize for scolding you. It’s late/early and I’m getting sleepy, grumpy and dopey.
I’d tell you where the other four are, but I’m also bashful.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:17 AM
Yes. There must be a way to make it go away. I tell you it was impossible to stop it over on the other site when 50% of the posts come from one inane person trying to wreak havoc. The admin had to do something. The writers were getting upset cause no one was talking about the article cause the thing would come in a change topics ON PURPOSE.
Most pernicious and devious. I don’t mind normal “its” but this one lies and plays pretend to smooze unknowing HAers.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 5:17 AM
There have been a couple of ranters who were worse. But they eventually flew off the handle, couldn’t control themselves, said one or more of the “magic words” and were made to disappear. I don’t see that happening in this case. So, some of us are conducting trials of repellents.
Dissent is an attractor.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:25 AM
Correction: Not dissent. Anger.
Time for me to take a break. Have a good day.
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 5:28 AM
I agree. All I do is point out the history of the freak. I never have fallen for its bait. I don’t even mock the thing. I just warn others about it after the respond to “it”. And yet they still chat it up with the thing. I was trying to get Cindy Munford (who I adore) to ignore the thing. But she wants to engage “it”. Very frustrating.
Geochelone on July 6, 2009 at 5:34 AM
Speaking of hijacking a thread, answer me this if you dare. Why are some in the rightwing bloggers now calling people within the Republican Party “Vichy Republicans?”
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 5:48 AM
*blogosphere in lieu of bloggers
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 5:55 AM
I don’t believe it was a blogger who coined the term, but instead it was someone who left a comment on a blog using this term to label conservative bloggers who have been “critical” of Governor Palin. The following is an example of such a comment on ablog, but don’t know if it is the first usage of the term. Patterico: Is It Verboten to Criticize Sarah Palin on a Conservative Blog?
This is one of the reasons that I recommend Palin advocates consider their language and who they are labeling. Do you want your campaign to be known as the group where criticism is “verboten?” I doubt that will attract a majority of voters. Of course, I am just a CINO posting on a Vichy Republican blog, so what do I know?
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 6:12 AM
You mean it’s verboten to criticize the criticizers?
They went out hard to slander Palin:s move , no one knows everything of whats behind her decisions some things she may not be able to tell right now.
It’s was a ugly race to be the first to second guess a person who hasn’t done anything bad.
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 6:36 AM
No. I don’t mean that, or I would have used a contemptible word to describe Palin supporters who use contemptible words for her critics.
We may not like all our allies or potential allies, but who benefits most if we anger and alienate a whole bunch of them?
Loxodonta on July 6, 2009 at 6:50 AM
Hannity and Beck get paid millions to take their shot…I would bet any amount of money that I have contributed more % wise to my earnings then Hannity…plus whenever he makes a “contribution” it is a media event to prop up his ratings.
He is as intelligent as any other normal guy, great at doing TV or radio, but that doesn’t make him “smart”. It makes him a brilliant media guy…just like Rush is brilliant. I just think Rush leads the pack, the rest follow with their bellowing about how the world is coming apart because of the liberals.
Beck is a blow hard, who has made already so many errors it is embarrassing, he is just above Geraldo in the chain of screamers.
Ranters seem to be the “de Jour” this year, Olby, Hannity now, Beck, they are all yellers of “the sky is falling”…and you are being duped.
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 6:51 AM
That applies to the other side too. A lot of Palin supporters are die-hard conservatives who may sit out the election if they perceive a slight hara-kiri with Palin. Do you want to alienate the whole lot of them?
Yet, bloggers like Ed n Allah don’t seem to be too concerned about branding us all cult members or worse.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Ummmm….waiting for the body to float to the surface?
His mistakes are well documented, and are leading us to some terrible ramifications…look at the effect on your own State, the worst in the nation.
Cap and Trade
Foreign Policy
Banks
Tarps
Stimulus Package
Energy
Bail outs
Unemployment
And the worst to come Health Care
You don’t read much do you? His “misfires”, his mistakes, are not of a persoanal nature, they are foolish mistakes, made by a rookie politician, with very poor administrators, and an even worse outlook on what America stands for.
This is from a “constitutional” attorney, he wants to sign a treaty without senate approval….unbelievable.
These “personal” attacks are his way of changing the debate…he is the “California” of presidents, big, powerful, but “broke”, useless, and in-effective.
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 6:59 AM
Passive to a person who attacks Palin because she has a “retarded baby”, or a person who continously has the sly little “you betcha”, or “she can see a moose from her house”, or any other such foolishness, deserves to be skewered.
And quite frankly, people who state “they should be tolerated” are not much more use, they are weak because the say they don’t approve of personal attacks, but the side with them “in principle”, thus showing not principle.
I pretty much lump them all into the same category, just one uses the others as an attack dog.
So no, I don’t feel we have to be civil, after 18 months of non-stop viciousness, we have every right to call a Palin attacker a moron.
If you have an “intellectual” problem with Palin, then state it, but a Palin attacker always, always, has some snide remark that is personal….then they whine when they are attacked.
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 7:05 AM
I have a feeling that someone posting all night, until at lease 4:56 is not “screwing” much at all…open the blinds, it will be daylight soon and you have to make your bed…
right2bright on July 6, 2009 at 7:16 AM
Apparently the Vichy Democrats & the Vichy Republicans have something in common. These Vichy folk affiliate themselves with political parties, yet have little or no influence at all in regards their respective party platforms of the day.
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These Vichy’s come across to observers as psuedo-slaves to whom they affiliate with and yet these vichy folk despise that affiliation at them same time. The Vichy’s really expouse few meaningful ideals or a consistant core of principles to follow, thus no viable leadership can be summoned amongst themselves. The vichy is defined by their unlimited indiscretions. Can it be said that a squishy pundit is an independant, moderate or a Vichy?
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Both political parties express dismay when a vichy wanders off their core political reservation. Prime examples of the “Vichy Republican” pundits are Frum, Brooks & Parker to mention just a few.. The only Vichy Democrat” pundit I can think of at this moment is Camille Anna Paglia, but there are probably quite a few more out there.
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Perhaps these people who are labeled “vichy” should start their own party. The Vichyterians maybe? If they won’t start their own party, then I recommend they save their portentous criticism for the political parties they oppose in lieu of the ones that they claim to affliate with.
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Exit questions:
Can we still say “BIG TENT” in the same sentence with what is considered to be the “Vichy’s represention?” Can or will the “Vichy’s” stop using their pundit blogs & forums as hacksaws to the steel poles of their affiliated parties tents?
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 7:45 AM
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Sorry Lox, I was off researhing the term Vichy. See my post at 7:45 AM.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 7:49 AM
Benedict Joe and the gang on MSNBC were savaging her this morning. How can they even call themselves a News Channel? They need to rename it The Offical Propaganda Arm of the Democratic National Committee.
kingsjester on July 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM
All liberals are like that. They can dish it out fine, but they can’t take it.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM
*researching
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM
Ed and AP head the Vichy NE Segment
julian on July 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM
If certain people don’t like being called Vichy Republicans, they should reconsider stopping all the derogatory names and slurs they use against the people they disagree with.
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Do you mean Scarborough? If so, he has really gone off the deep end. John Ziegler always sort of defended him by saying he understood that Scarborough is between a rock and a hard place. But, since Ziegler publicly took on Mike Allen, Scarborough won’t return his calls. He must know that the gloves are now off.
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but this label was started using against those people who voted for stimulus and it spread from there. Basically, it applies to NE progressive Republicans like Maine Sisters n others who give conservatives some real pain the arse.
BTW, if you are keeping tabs Cornyn has selected Mark Castle in Delaware who is turning out to be an early Lincoln Chafee, why promote that pain in the tooth? I am still non-committal on the guy they tapped for Illinois.
I hope Sarah does realize that Cornyn is setting up the field for her, so that these people won’t let her be too conservative once in the office.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Yeah. Joe was actually fairly watchable when he was on at night. Now he is as bad as Andrea Mitchell…well…maybe not that bad, but close. I imagine his latest book not selling well isn’t helping his outlook either. He’s too immersed in the MSNBC cult to realize he has lost touch.
kingsjester on July 6, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Why would anybody watch msnbc anymore?
Just to make yourself mad or frustrated?
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Channel surfing for a second. I made the mistake of stopping.
kingsjester on July 6, 2009 at 8:03 AM
Apparently, the networks, including Fox are in full bash-Palin mode. One reason is why are these people assuming she wants to run for 2012 or beyond and bashing her for it. She never indicated she would. Us believers read the signs but she never said that. I don’t understand this bashing at all.
If she has resigned and if she has really taken herself out of contention for 2012 as they say, why the need to bash her so much? If they didn’t like her, maybe gloat for a minute or two and move on. Hasn’t she made herself a n on-threat? Why punch her so much? I don’t get it.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM
That should read: One reason is why these people are bashing they assumed she wanted to run for 2012 or beyond and this decision violates that judgment and they bashing her for it.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 8:13 AM
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Scarborough is a classic “Vichy Republican.” Scarborough’s summer wear gloves are playtex and when it gets a little chilly back east he adorns his hands with woolly mittens. John Ziegler would rip “Playtex Joe” a new one concerning the current Scarborough savage rage on Sarah Palin. Joe keeps special knives sharp just for the true conservative principled people like Sarah Palin.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 8:13 AM
I never thought of you as a Palin-hater, Ed. I do think of you as a blogger who thinks his opinion has more value than other people’s because he gets paid to express it. I also think you have a smaller elitist streak than AP, but it’s still there and you have taken more than a little joy in prematurely reporting on Sarah Palin’s political demise. But that’s the danger of being in a profession where more than your own friends and family know your name. You start believing your own PR.
SKYFOX on July 6, 2009 at 8:22 AM
I hope Ziegler’s live today. I expect to hear him de-ball Scarborough. On Friday, he aired the repeat of his earlier interview of Scarborough. It was bad enough the first time it was nails on a chalkboard on Friday. I sent Ziegler a complaint via email.
I think for Scarborough it has come down to him liking being on television and liking the paycheck. Unfortunately, he is labeled a republican/conservative. There are too many people the media label as republ/conservatives who are not. That way they can falsely claim they are “balanced.”
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 8:24 AM
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Cornyn has well established his affinity for squishy people to run for office. Can we say Crist. Cornyn needs to go to a re-education camp for conservatism or be replaced by some one else. The current positions of the RSNC leadership role is lacking to say the least.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 8:24 AM
The liberals that I know (WAY too many, so I know what they say and think) are VERY happy about her quitting.
One person I know -who isn’t ideological- thinks she’s a flake.
Really, if I was a liberal i wouldn’t trust being happy about it.
But they are all sheep. They really are.
Why do they keep bashing her? She still has a pulse, doesn’t she? They’ll be bashing her as long as they’re alive.
The reason liberals HATE her so much is because she IS America. She’s one of us.
They hate that.
If someone comes along who has her convictions and half of her mystique and charisma, then that person is in trouble too.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 8:30 AM
Jesus. Can you see the gnashing of teeth if Sarah shows up at a Crist fundraiser with no Rubio in the room?
Look, it’s not as if Marco has a chance right now, but Sarah’s bona fides are in her conservative politics and her devotion to fiscal conservatism. That ain’t Charlie the Chameleon. When you pick up your next bottle of Vichy Water, Charlie Crist’s face will be on the bottle-it’s that bad down here.
Methinks Sarah would be wise to do a Lincoln Day handhold for both candidates and tell Cornyn that she won’t take sides during a primary because Charlie was a gentleman to her during 2008. She’s not going to fall on her sword for Charlie Crist, who is in this for himself, when an up and coming Palin Republican like Marco Rubio is there for the asking.
victor82 on July 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Bill Bennett: I don’t think that the public makes much distinction between Pawlenty saying he’s not going to run again and Palin leaving office early.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 8:38 AM
indeed
but then the people who bother to civilly criticize palin, or wonder aloud if she’s made a mistake, or try to offer advice, are always attacked by palinites as snobs, morons, elitists, or squishes
sad
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 8:38 AM
As to Scarborough: the crazytown thing is, Joe has political ambitions. None of you realize this, but he’s getting back in to Florida politics someday with national ambitions.
Palin happens to be in his way.
What Palin is doing is mystifying to people like Scarborough, and to everyone in D.C.. I strongly suspect that she understood that what the GOP has done since Reagan left D.C., especially in trying to build a relationship with a hostile news media during the Bushtard period, is completely feckless and retarded. She only had to watch what happened to the McCain campaign. I think she’s the kind of quick learner that only has to be taught once.
She gets, I think, what Nixon and Reagan got-that the press is a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and that you have to go around them to the voters. This is part of what she is doing, and the press does not understand it because they are used to dealing with feckless Republicans like George W. Bush who don’t fight back and try to be friendly with them.
victor82 on July 6, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Oily good ol’ boy Cornyn ain’t no friend of Sarah Palin, nor of his Conservative constituents.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Yeah but why is Fox bashing her? Should’t her quitting clear the way for their boy Romney based on their thinking? They should be happy, so why are they bashing her? Apparently, the bashing is even more egregious than before?
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM
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You ask “if we anger and alienate a whole bunch of them?” I ask you in return, are they not doing the same thing to the whole bunch of us? Are we not discussing the “what’s” and the “how’s” of the definition of the Republican Party is to be represented in the future? Dissent at this juncture is common after any defeat. The brain storming of this discussion must be played out, otherwise we will not learn from our previous mistakes and subsequently make them all over again. Moderation and the pure acquiescence to a softer principled platform was a couple of the problems last time. Do we want to stifle a rigorous and respectfull debate because you don’t desire to anger those who anger us?
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 8:44 AM
How is this brilliant? Why would anyone resign out of the blue with no explanation and no reason want to run for president? Or expect to get the nomination? Bush was gov of texas right up to being pres…
This is not making any sense at all.
rollthedice on July 6, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Don’t question!
It’s brilliant!
/peacenprosperity
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 8:48 AM
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I have not done what you have claimed. What was your civil criticism or advice for Sarah’s resignation? What?
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Well, if she has any ambitions for POTUS, she has got to shed the “ditzy” image people have of her.
Winning over the HA crowd won’t cut it.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Don’t start your hatin’ so early in the day…
:p
ladyingray on July 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
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What would rollthedice do? I think Sarah has just rolled the dice right? Let’s give it some time out there. I mean, Obama is either going to resign from office or be impeached by the fall of 2011 anyway.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Read carefully the phraseology of what affection’s bias claims to be “civil criticism or attempt to offer advice.” The devil is always in the details. Pulling the rug out from under Palin’s permitted existence is hardly civil criticism, nor constructive advice. Who are any of us to determine what Palin may choose to do, or what lot we will permit her in life? I’ve studied enough false prophets to automatically be cynical of any pundit fortune tellers who presume the right to condemn the likes of Palin the same day she makes an announcement. Jumping to conclusions into warped judgment is as weak minded as voting on legislation prior to reading it and debating it properly. Putting the cart before the horse is not smart, no matter how much one “likes” the horse or what efforts one made to construct the cart.
As per polls, since the jump to judgment was based upon the presumption that people would agree with those condemning Palin, evidently the public endorses Palin 5:1 still.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Well , now we’ll see how mittens can handle the fire…
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM
o/t:
Riots in Urumqi… China has blocked Twitter, probably to stave off any citizen reporting. Updates can be seen at feed://www.thenewdominion.net. I haven’t seen any news about Twitter being blocked yet, but I can’t access it from where I am in China.
chinotex on July 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM
“Too much democracy , too little expert rule.”
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM
If there was a damn good reason to quit being governor I would do it. Family, scandal, illness, whatever.
However, the only thing that I’m saying is that the speculation for quitting governor to run for president makes no sense at all.
rollthedice on July 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Fox is bashing her because they want Romney.
You answered your own question.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 8:58 AM
I hope she starts a third party and a throw the bums out campaign.
Firebird on July 6, 2009 at 8:59 AM
What if she thinks it starts with building up a base of conservatives and grassroots .
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM
People see from their own perspective. You see “ditzy” where others see sincerity. What you see is what you get. Why prefer the sophistries of deceit? I need not use the foolhardy Obama/Biden administration to exonerate Palin. Since so many ideologues trump the word “authentic” to the newspeak degree that it no longer means its urtext, GENUINE quality is Palin’s calling card. And you presume to lecture her on “changing” to suit Obama’s crowd.
Palin is not perfect. No one is perfect. I simply support Palin’s self determination. We all just finished celebrating that very self determination that made America.
Our founding fathers were “ditzy” to their sophisticated British overlords.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Scarborough’s a disappointment. He continunally lauds Powell, and he’s way too soft on Obama (except on spending). But with regard to Palin, he sits on the Morning Joe set picking his nose while they parade guests in to ream her. Mika called her a “horrific candidate” this morning. Someone seemed to suggest that the people attending her rallies attended largely to see a freak show.
Read Douthart’s NYT column today. I don’t agree with it all, but he makes a good point about the hate–much of it has to do with sex and with class. Personally, I’m much better educated than she is. Heck, I’m one degree up on Obama. But I identify much more with a Palin than these POS elites we have in DC. Dump on her all you want, I think she has that Harry Truman, commonsense simplicity to march into DC and to shake up the bureaucracies and the way things are done in a manner that makes sense to everyday Americans.
I didn’t vote for Obama, but he promised “change.” What change? He’s a far left, liberal version of the worst this country has to offer.
Whether Palin runs in 2012 or not, I think she’s going to be extremely effective in countering anything she opposes in Obama’s administration. She no longer needed her position as governor as a platform. She stands on her own two feet. The media screamed about the late Friday presser, yet she’s managed to eclipse even Michael Jackson, Obama’s trip to DC, Biden’s trip to Iraq, and McNair’s seemy murder. The woman makes news taking a crap. Let’s see what happens.
BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2009 at 9:06 AM
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Unrest around the world. Now why is this all happening? Are those who want to be free now expressing their desired views to be heard now in louder choruses? Or can it be because we have seen the harsh tyrannies abroad now and our own claims of a soft tyranny at home that makes it more of a focused issue?
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Nobody wants Palin to win in DC or the NY networks.
Which is funny, cuz I’m sure their ratings go up when she’s on.
Palin seems to be turning into the new JFK.
JFK after his presidency started, had all kinds of enemies.
Nobody who worked for him liked him at all.
That’s the way she is now. The only people who like Sarah Palin are middle americans.
She is such a threat, it’s ridiculous.
And now she’s a moving threat.
She’s giving a speech on Aug 8th in CA? That will be an interesting event.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Exactly, and to get to the voters she has to spend now to 2010-2012 in the lower 48, just as Mark Levin said.
I don’t think it was necessary for her to be more specific than she was last Friday re her plans for the future . But I would expect her to be more specific before long.
petefrt on July 6, 2009 at 9:08 AM
the_nile on July 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Note well, I despise polls because they always reflect the pollster’s opinion. That remains my consistent stance. You neglect the context in which I placed that poll of public opinion: presumptive omniscient pundits who IMMEDIATELY condemn Palin into non-substantive existence share similar qualities with legislators who vote prior to reading, debating and revising bills prior to enacting oppressive and unconstitutional laws.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM
Hi, I’m Sarah Palin, I quit the governorship of Alaska out of the clear blue sky one day with no explanation at all other than a rambling and incoherent statement. Vote for me for president!
Nope. Not buying it.
And I would have voted for her!
rollthedice on July 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM
Yeah but according to them she has dashed her chances for 2012 and that clears the way for Romney. Why bash her when its not necessary and risk alienating her supporters even more? If this bashing goes on, her supporters might not even want to look at Romney. It doesn’t make sense to bash when she’s no longer a threat. Which only means, they do think that she’s still a threat but that’s practising doublethink.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Dude, calm down. I like her alot.
I’m talking about people in this country who are undecided about her. The independents.
What she needs to do is hammer into people’s heads what made her leave early. Because like it or not, that’s a bad thing for her to have over her head.
If she hammers the corruption and BS charges against her, and why she left for everyone’s good, then she’ll be ok, because she’ll be a sympathetic figure. A sign of the incredible corruption of the times.
If she can’t convince independents, she’s in trouble.
Assuming she wants to be POTUS. Which I think she does.
With a disgusting, no-holds-barred media to deal with, her gamble is HUGE.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Jeez, are you offering me a book deal? How much effort are you demanding I put into this exercise?
My preferred presidential candidates last season were Mitt and Rudy, and both of them are incapable of writing the gobbledygook that Sarah came up with in that speech. Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich also have stellar writing skills.
Maybe Sarah should study their speeches for content, and they can learn something from her about dynamic delivery.
Buy Danish on July 6, 2009 at 9:13 AM
I will still, and I will support her wholeheartedly
But gosh, she has just given the left so much ammunition for 2012
Just wait til the line of questioning starts
blatantblue on July 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM
Cornyn needs to be replaced, period.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM
No way anybody in media would do that.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM
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Your hopes are not mine. The party needs the persuasion of conservatism to principled foundations where big changes is at best toward slow processes of discovery. Those discoveries will likely come through economic woes we must endure at present. It is the health of the private sector’s economy that will open the minds to the conservative way of thinking. We will build on that and take it from there.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Too much, I fear.
rollthedice on July 6, 2009 at 9:20 AM
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Thanks for reiterating points already expressed by pundits and commenters. Think outside the box. Listen or better yet read Sarah’s own words about her departure. Evaluate those words on their own merit & nothing else. Spectulation for her future is just that. This country will go on because of Sarah or despite her. Now is the time to re-focus on what our current POTUS is trying to do to our beloved country.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 9:24 AM
All you guys who are wondering what Sarah’s strategy is, it seems there’s an excellent example for her to emulate:
Sarah has ‘done a DeGaule’
Some time ago, the Aged P drew an analogy with Charles De’Gaule being holed up in provincial France awaiting country’s call, and Governor Palin’s ‘exile’ in Alaska. Now the analogy is even closer. You will recall that in 1946, DeGaule too resigned suddenly from the office of premier in protest and disgust at the antics of petty politicians, who re-emerged in post war France. Everyone then declared that he had committed political suicide!
(Emerson C at C4P)
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 9:25 AM
If Sarah’s running against Bambi in 2012, all she has to do is hit Obama on his promise in 2005 not to run for President and then breaking it. If she’s a quitter, so is he and a liar to boot.
promachus on July 6, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Exit question: Where will Palin move? and why?
faraway on July 6, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Palin is just as viable a candidate for 2012 as she ever was. How do I know? As long as the media, in all its forms, continues to trash and bash her, she is a formidable candidate.
They wouldn’t waste their energy on a powerless woman. They fear her.
Just so I don’t sound too much like a Palin sycophant, I do have one suggestion for her: Feel free to use your pronouns, Sarah. Maybe that’s a colloquial thing?
pugwriter on July 6, 2009 at 9:29 AM
They should.
B Man on July 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Then run away. If you are too afwaid or you think her decisions reflect poorly on you — in fact that is what I think is a lot of people’s problem, go hide. I’m not sure what you think is accomplished by repeating your same meme. You are not changing anyone’s mind.
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Remove “content” and I’d agree that classical construction is the hallmark of masterworks. Nonetheless, idea determines form. Palin’s ideas are the “content”; and given her nature, she is refining now what she deems of worth, giving herself time to study.
Having supported Fred Thompson’s bid to lead, because of his political convictions and his “hands down” personal strengths as a POTUS, I rest assured that Palin will learn well from Thompson because they share the same passion for our Constitution.
But Mitt? Given his “promise anything for a vote” and his campaign platform’s Socialist agenda to unite private industry with government, I disagree with your point that “Maybe Sarah should study their speeches for content”. Romney would enable the good ol’ boy corrupt GOP progressive network augmenting mandates and big government. Mitt is Hatch’s and Cornyn’s kid gloves.
maverick muse on July 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM
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Yes he should be but he probably won’t. Eric Erickson over at Redstate.com is doing his part to hold Cornyn’s feet to the fire when he makes poor decisions about the party. The tact that should be taken by us out here in the conservative movement with Cornyn should be the same as Redstates.com. Engage him in debate by phone or by e-mails making Cornyn give direct answers to your questions on his ill favored positions.
Americannodash on July 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Americannodash
And what if the party cannot be returned to it’s conservative roots? The Democrat Party used to be full of conservatives. They were driven out or walked away and the party is all big-government liberalism now. If the Republican Party has gone the same way, why expend the effort to “save” it? That effort could go toward creating a conservative, constitutionalist party. With good leadership, that may not be the overwhelming difficulty some people think it is. My republicanism has always been second to my conservatism and I will be true to that ideal, not to some withered carcass of a party. Exactly how many socialist programs and Obama suck-ups do we need to endure before we know the party has abandoned us?
Again, given the right leadership, I’m ready to walk.
SKYFOX on July 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Dont’t worry, 8 years with Obama and you’ll pull the lever for Joe Public
julian on July 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Quote of the day
faraway on July 6, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Here’s an idea that would make heads explode.
A weekly Fox News program hosted by Palin and Lynne Cheney.
It would be must-see TV. Even the Hard Left wouldn’t be able to resist.
BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Eric Erickson is in a class above the rest of these psuedo conservative blog moderators
julian on July 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM
So, does that make Allahpundit Pierre Laval or, Marshall Petain?
Blake on July 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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