Video: Palin resigns; Video: Andrea Mitchell says sources tell her Palin’s out of politics
posted at 4:48 pm on July 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
There’s a lot of video coming but this should tide you over for a bit. I don’t follow her logic at the beginning here: Essentially, she says that once you’re a lame duck, the responsible thing to do is to get out of the way rather than go around milking the office while your influence diminishes. Does that mean presidents in their second term should quit early too? Instead of quitting, why not redouble your efforts to be an effective governor despite the lame-duck pressures working against you?
The crux of this is that she’s quitting because it’s in Alaska’s best interest, not her own. If it turns out this was nothing more than a way of clearing her schedule to start early on running for president, her primary opponents will make her eat those words.
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Update: Given the source, take this not with a grain of salt but a boulder of it.
Some have speculated in the past that Palin may be interested in running for president in 2012, but she did not mention running for another office at her press conference. Sources told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell that Palin is out of politics for good.
If it’s true, there must be a major scandal somewhere in the shadows here. If it’s not true, well, that’s MSNBC for you.
Update: Real Clear Politics has video of Mitchell’s report, including the detail that Palin’s allegedly told her top backers to go ahead and commit to other candidates for 2012. Bill Kristol thinks resigning now could actually be a bold gambit to free herself up for an intense presidential campaign, but I think she’s following more of a Nixonian strategy here. I.e. it could be she’s burned out on politics and dispirited by all the crap she’s put up with it and wants to get away at an opportune moment. If, as is likely, The One wins a second term, the GOP will be so dejected that it’ll happily give her a second look as a potential savior in 2016, much as it did with Nixon after he lost the 1960 presidential election and 1962 California gubernatorial race. The question is, what does she do with herself in the meantime?
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If so, then her life and the lives of her family members will be infinitely better from now on. Smartest thing she’s done.
If not, I still support her. I’d vote for her for any office.
Daggett on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Obama’s kids?
Furthermore, who could have anticipated the new depths of vileness sunk to by Letterman and Sullivan? Just awful.
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Got to love this. In one fell swoop, Palin completely moved the Big 0 completely out of the headlines. Has any one else in politics been able to achieve that? The answer is no. It is going to be very interesting to watch her next move. We have not heard the last of the Cuda!
glennbo on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
If she is out for good my support sure won’t be going to Romney, not after the way his groupies have treated her. I can only hope someone worth supporting comes along in the next year or two.
Rose on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Someone else noticed. ;) As I said on another thread, beta males channeling their inner misogynist
So obvious.
Cody1991 on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Spoken like person who has no children and no children savaged on a day to day basis by the likes of deranged Andrew Sullivan.
I guess Allah just can’t imagine a person not selfish enough to let her family be destroyed.
Topsecretk9 on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
How dare she do something unselfish! How dare she do something different than your run-of-the-mill politician! I can’t believe she has the nerve to actually put her state’s best interests ahead of her own.
We are witnessing the birth of something, not the death.
Chuckie on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
MSNBC sources? LOL, like they would have any insight on her?
Theater of the absurd quoting MSLSD on this subject.
FireBlogger on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Meghan Stapleton on Fox news now
bestwins on July 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Meghan McCain won’t be talking for a while. Her trans-atlantic container of twinkies just arrived in the NY docks.
Darth Executor on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Obama is going to rue this day.
elduende on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM
WTF???? I don’t know what the heck is going on here! We are done, conservatism is over. This was the one person who was genuine in politics. She is the real deal!
milemarker2020 on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM
The “Checkers” speech was indeed “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around any more.” Something about being accused of ethics violations, accepting kickbacks and “gifts.” IIRC, tearfully explaining that the only “gift” he accepted was the family dog “Checkers.”
JamesLee on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Of course not. It is obviously John Boehner.
myrenovations on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM
This should make Allah, Jonah Goldberg, and Charles Krauthammer very happy. Thanks for nothing.
I’m sure you and your ilk will saddle us with another brilliant, “moderate” candidate like McCain.
*SPIT!*
MCPO Airdale on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
I support Palin, whatever she decides.
maverick muse on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
No indication from Meg that Sarah is leaving politics
bestwins on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
That would be Crist, I guess.
spmat on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
SHE RUNNING !!!!
THANK GOD
I WAS GOING TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK
TimeTraveler on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
From the other Palin thread:
BuckeyeSam on July 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Obama was glad to see Sanford implode, although the timing could have been better for him. Don’t get me wrong – I genuinely like her as a person – but you can be sure Obama regrets Sarah being out of the race more than her utmost supporters. There will be stronger opposition in 2012.
churchill995 on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Farwell…haha thats funny. You wish. Now she is free to respond and fight back. MSNBC? Please.
chief on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I haven’t noticed anyone from the Romney camp going after Palin. Only the McCain and Huckabee people.
petunia on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Now that I think about it, it makes perfect sense that a soucre close to Palin would leak information to MSNBC…
myrenovations on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
McCain fanboiz have zero credibility on what constitutes GOP standards.
TMK on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
DON”T LISTEN TO THE OLD HAG FROM NBC….
TimeTraveler on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Right. That’s why we’ve all seen the video of Ashley Biden snorting coke, right? Because all children and especially adult children are fair and fair game, right?
Topsecretk9 on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
GET OUT OF HERE MEN!!!
IT’S A TRAP!!!
pseudonominus on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Her spokesman says “Look out, here she comes”
conservnut on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Best laugh of the day, so far.
petefrt on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Obama’s kids are the exception, and Obama wasn’t the frontrunner when she ran for governor. We largely had no clue how his family would be treated at that point, so we had no reason to believe they’d be treated differently.
Bush’s grown daughters were savaged. Chelsea Clinton was attacked. Amy Carter was attacked, too. The left went after the children of Santorum and Roberts. The list goes on and on.
amerpundit on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Odd timing, July 3rd, can’t seem to shake a weird feeling it was planned for the July 4th weekend for a reason.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
This is why Conservative women dont go into politics (ask Ann Colter or Michelle Malkin or any others). They will be targeted by the Right for “abandoning their families for their political asperations” and attack by the left for “Not being a woman and caring about women’s issues”.
Hoefully in time our country can get over that stigma.
William Amos on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I am just sick that the MSM and our poltical elite have succeeded in driving her from the stage with their continuous, vicious sniping and smear attacks. Her remarks today show just how hurtful and overwhelming the attacks must have been for her and her family. The fact that the GOP elite have publicly turned on her too was likely the final straw. Her remark about handing off the ball to allow the team to win sounds like pressure from the Goldbergs and the Krauthammers may have gotten to her.
Maybe she is doing the right thing. Politics is not really a healthy place for people who desire to change the world with “a servant’s heart”. She may find her place working for organizations that support families with members with Down’s syndrome. Good luck and God bless to a genuinely good person.
inmypajamas on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
In fairness to simon there were comments before that that hinted strongly that he has a strong liking for children and not in a good way. Uncalled for in both cases.
Cindy Munford on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Ameripundit, I agree somewhat with your point about ‘paying attention,’ although the attacks on the Palin family were especially vicious and unrelenting. There is a world of difference between children of Republican candidates and Democratical candidates.
I don’t see her getting totally out of politics, I think PMSNBC is practicing wishful thinking, but at this point I sure wouldn’t blame her.
TeeDee on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
She is not out of politics, she is out of Alaska!
Here comes Palin, who is going to help unite the Republican Party and move forward into something new.
I love Palin, she has my vote. She has more talent in her pinky than our current President who is bankrupting and destroying America.
Go Palin!
djn on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
so. since she’s not busy being governor, then i hope she’ll come help Bob McDonnell (R)in his gubernatorial run in Virginia.
and she can help kick out the trash (DEMS) in 2010.
kelley in virginia on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
By “sources” MSNBC means people with no first, second or even third hand knowledge but with a fervent wish that it is so…
tommylotto on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Whatever MSNBC ‘reports’, believe the opposite
works 95% of the time………
Janos Hunyadi on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Sarah’s Independence Day
bestwins on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
She specifically said that she feels that she can accomplish more outside government. That sounds like an exit from politics to me.
ProfessorMiao on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Why is it when Krauthammer gives and honest critique of Obama he is a genius and the “Hammer” and
And then if he criticizes St. Sarah, he is liberal scum?
Methinks many of you have the same Savior Complex with Palin that people have with Obama. Sarah is the Savior of the country and the republican party and turn the country into a conservative paradise and once she because President Reagan with smile down from the heavens and rainbows and deer for hunting with be abundant.
Sarah is a great woman. I admire her commitment to family. And her personhood. But she wasn’t ready to be president and this move will absolutely curb any chances for that happening in the near future. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough. Because she is a woman she doesn’t need to be coddled and treated like a weakling. Any politician going into the political spotlight is going to get anal raped by the media. Especially if they have a pregnant teenage daughter and a loser maybe son in law with a drug addict mother. If she because a soldier in the conservative fight she will get attacked just as well and people still be going after her.
As a woman this bothers me. It seems like an emotional move. I’m hoping its more than that.
We’ll see
Magnus on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Sarahcuda/Thompson2012
Sven on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
This must be why SIMPLE is in your user name. I’m guessing you don’t know who your daddy is, cave dweller.
capejasmine on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Did he resign from something? He did win the Presidency after that I believe…
petunia on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I guess… she doesn’t love power- at least not more than her family.
I swoon with unrequited love.
Does anyone else think this is sad evidence that good people don’t run for office because they don’t want to put up with the crap that Palin has gotten over the last 9 months.
Sackett on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Scandal? I don’t think so – if there were one, someone could well blackmail her I suppose but a scandal on Saracuda would be too good to keep quiet – even if she complied with the blackmail – which I think she’ smart enough not too.
Good for Alaska? Well – I think so. Clearly she’s boxed in and can’t do much to position for a run for President in 2012. On any occasion that she steps out – she’s hit with an ethics charge by the leftists who are pumping large sums of money into Alaska to oppose her in the media, in politics, and in the courts. So it IS a good thing for Alaskans to get a Governor in office who’s not constantly fighting a running battle with the loony left.
We’ll know soon enough. I anticipate two weeks tops after she leaves office (maybe less) and if she’s seriously going to make a run – then you’ll see her visibility increase. That’s when you’ll know that Andrea Mitchell was wrong (again).
I hope she runs – we’ll see. Actually – I’d like to see her leave the GOP and found a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY – one not plagued with elitist baggage and led by Ayatollah’s like Grand Ayatollah John Cornyn.
It’s time for a new party folks – the two we’ve had for well over a century are done – stick a fork in ‘em. The problem is – a new party will require someone with some steam to kick it off and lead it – someone like Saracuda. If she put together a good team and lured in some good Conservatives from the GOP – the GOP is done – will eventually be relegated to running McCain centrists with a watered down conservative “anything goes though” platform – which is what the Ayatollah’s really want to do.
Crossing my fingers on Palin – we’ll see.
HondaV65 on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
She’ll be back.
the_nile on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Personally, I think if she accomplished what she wanted to accomplish while Governor, and she wants Alaska to be able to focus on Alaskan goals instead of Palin-mania, she’s made a great decision. Why should Alaskans have to pay for legal defense of ethics complaints generated by political operative? Why should they have to be distracted by David Letterman or Variety smear jobs?
Would most modern politicians have made this choice? No. Would reluctant servants like George Washington have made this choice? Absolutely.
Personally, I think she could play a huge role in the GOP without ever running for office again. You think she won’t bring people in to rallies? You think her endorsement of a GOP Senator wouldn’t help their election or re-election bid? I think she has endless opportunities. When it became clear that there was going to be a continuing trickle of negative comments about her, the normal strategy of honing your political craft in the relative obscurity of the Alaskan governership went out the window. Who knows – maybe she’ll go volunteer for a conservative group. Or work on GOTV stuff for the GOP. Or work with the Tea Party movement to find fiscal conservatives to run against RINOs of the world.
hawksruleva on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Goldberg and Krauthammer are supporters of Romney and they have been attacking her.
Rose on July 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Huck is a strong backer of Palin. Mitt doesnt attack face to face he uses surrogates like McCain does.
McCain in his egotism cant admit it was he that lost the election last year. So he had to scapegoat Sarah.
William Amos on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Hahahaha!
Blake on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
A tad disingenuous but I am sure everyone appreciates the effort.
Cindy Munford on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I was afraid of this and it has come to pass. She’s the political equivalent of Edith Wharton’s Lily Bart. Someone whose sense of honor is so acute that she’ll try and rise above it all and that very honor inflames a cynical world determined to see her punished. The House of Mirth is a quinteseential American tragedy and today we have the political equivalent.
Congratulations, America, you’ve just managed to beat the one good person in politics.
promachus on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
That’s exactly my take on it. I’m probably just projecting my own situation onto Palin through wishful thinking, but there really does come a time when you just give up and leave.
When perception becomes truth, even to your friends, it’s time to go away. There is no way to defend yourself against other peoples perception. Take the money and do something else.
Jaynie59 on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Oh, so she was just naive to think that Republicans and Democrats are treated equally by the media. Gotcha.
And, like I said above, Biden and Obama weren’t even frontrunners when she ran. In 2006, you look back at the attacks on the Bush twins, the Santorum kids, et all. While the media attacks Republican children more, political children in general aren’t off-limits by the vile machines.
amerpundit on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
So when does her last name become a verb, like Borked, as in “He was Palined by the media…”
tommylotto on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Um…leave Allah alone!
Goodness. I have really, really tried to get a straight answer from all of you on multiple threads about what, exactly, YOUR HOST has done to wound Sarah or otherwise warrant your slander. At the worst, he is a RINO…and? I mean, wow. He LETS you post here. My gosh. What is most likely is that he has legitimate reasons for (if at all) disliking Sarah Palin. Most of us have our favorite candidates and most of us have strong opinions about them and against others. This is borderline psychotic…and a little too much like Obot behavior for my comfort. SHE WAS NOT ANOINTED. She was/is an option. Why you all treat her like she is perfect OR that anyone cannot have a legitimate issue with her, is juvenile.
At the least, could you not try to treat your host as if you were visiting his home? If you dislike his hospitality so much, why not just leave? Grow up.
Mommypundit on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I expect that she will roll up the sleeves and work on rallying the troops and raise money for the midterms to take back the house and senate. With all the publicity she can then take a hard look at 2012.
conservnut on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Allah, Meg(sarahpac) just debunked that crap..
TimeTraveler on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Sounds she like she is out for good. Take a deep breath. The country will survive.
brak on July 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I’d be up for that. Let the GOP and Dems split the “we like the current system” vote.
hawksruleva on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Sarah will go out supporting issues that are on a national level, being Governor of Alaska is holding her back.
Sven on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Why thank you.
The Race Card on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Hmmmm
The MSM is despicable the way they went after her family. I hope they all drop dead from aids. Olb, Matthews and Letterman in that order.
We have to leave the “O” Dumbo kids out of attacks.
Didn’t the “ONE” say if his kids end up whoring around he wouldn’t want them taxed with a kid???
Rick007 on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Thanks for making the effort. I can’t tell you how many trolls are spamming C4P in untoward glee. KLO is probably breaking champagne.
promachus on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
He’ll be the guy cleaning toilets, be weary of the smell.
javamartini on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
My memory is fuzzy there, either resigned as Governor, or ruled out a reelection bid, something like that. This was late 50′s or early 60s, I believe. And yes, did win the Presidency in 68, reelected in ’72.
If I am wrong, someone please correct my recollection.
JamesLee on July 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM
How about a line of Moose Chile?
csdeven on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Oh wouldn’t that just tickle your fancy AP; Palin getting out of politics. *Rolls eyes* She’s running for President. If that isn’t obvious to anyone who watched her presser, I’m concerned for you. :p
LiquidH2O on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
It seems hard to believe that there is a skeleton in the closet; it’s unlikely that she’d have managed to hide it for this long, in the face of the investigative resources that were used against her.
I didn’t get the feeling that she was leaving public life at all from those remarks. I think we’re just going to have to wait and see what her plans actually are. The PDS crew will be working in overdrive, trying to be the smartest “guesser” in the room in the meantime.
cruadin on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Now, if Andrea Mitchell would get out of broadcasting we could really celebrate.
rplat on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
The apple didn’t fall far from the egotistical tree. Just wait for her book. I’m sure AP and Levy (why does she attract so many gay guys?) have advanced ordered.
Blake on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
MessNBC knows NOTHING about Sarah Palin, therefore they should shut their stinkin’ pie hole.
**To the McCain staffers: what goes around, comes around, and I hope we all get to see your downfall.
**To the David Letterman’s out there: hee hee! You have made a BIG mistake, a major tactical error. I can’t wait to watch your sewer pipe break! The stink will be overwhelming.
**To the Republicans: You will be watching a great majority of your base jump ship to the Independents!
hopefloats on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
she isnt out. Her spokesperson basically just said she is going to go out and campaign
ousoonerfan15 on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Meg Stapelton, her spokesperson, shot down that Andrea Mitchell rumor.
jencab on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I just watched the video and I don’t see where there’s any indication that she is quitting politics for good. Quite the opposite. She said she wanted to fight for smaller government, against corruption and to put an end to politics as usual.
And to do it from outside the Governor’s office.
Hmmmm…
PaddyJ on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Seriously, AP? What about the polling trends? And do you really think the country will be in decent shape just two years from now? I’d love to know what makes you think his re-election is so “likely.”
IrishEi on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
One last word here though – if Palin is leaving politics because she’s tired of running from the liberal arrows …
Then the GOP can go and stick my vote – they’ll never have it again – even at a local level. And the reason for that is the Ayatollah’s in the GOP have done nothing to defend her … and in fact have snidely sniped at her from the anonymous shadows.
I suspect there are many who feel the same as I. The GOP better hope she isn’t quitting to get peace from the loony leftists. They’d better damn hope – because there are a lot of folks who will start going hog hunting and forget about engaging in politics for good.
HondaV65 on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I wonder what the Friday night dump will be. We’ll wake up tomorrow and cap & tax and healthcare would have passed and no one will have noticed.
txag92 on July 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
I think Sarah has deceided not to go the route of Reagan but rather the route of Goldwater. To be the inspiration of a movement rather than the leader of one.
William Amos on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
That is just off-the-scale absurd.
Ronnie on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
It’s just sad that the left was able to run her out like this. Like her or not, it’s despicable.
angryed on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
If GOP candidates are clamoring for a Palin visit/fundraiser, we’ll know she is not dead and that this has not hurt her.
If GOP candidates start running away from her, well…
myrenovations on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
No it wasn’t. That was after his defeat in the 62 governor’s race. Checkers was when he was Ike’s running mate.
CanadianGuy on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
If Palin’s VP choice brought “politics as usual” to Alaska, I can absolutely understand why she’d step down and try to quarantine it. If I could immunize Virginia from the stupid posturing and character attacks that characterize the modern system, I’d go to great lengths to do so.
hawksruleva on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
I wasn’t at all being “disingenuous” Cindy…sorry you seem to think that. Not matter what I’m saying, you’d be hard pressed to call me ingenuous.
I admire and like Palin very much. Her kids didn’t deserve to be dragged through the mud like they were.
But…Sarah Palin, IMHO, isn’t ready for the top job, by far, yet.
JetBoy on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Geez… Allahpundit,
How can you say there must be a scandal?
Can’t it just be.. oh I don’t know, she wants to be a mother to Trig, and frankly a mother to her grandchild, so that Bristol can go to college and have a future.
Lots of mothers put their children before career. Is it really so implausible that Palin would value her families needs over the Presidency?
Palin always struck me as an authentic person, and authentic people rarely want the Presidency.
Sackett on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Bite your tongue. Positive thinking only.
BuckeyeSam on July 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
LMAO! ROFL! LMBAO! ROFLMBAO! You rule, I suck. You’re the boss of me. You’re king taco!
The Race Card on July 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Richard Nixon? The man who served in the Navy, House of Representatives, US Senate, and as Vice President of the United States for eight years?
amerpundit on July 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Magnus on July 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM
This is much more than that, and I’m pretty sure you know it.
Keemo on July 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
What Goldberg told her to do or even what she was already doing?
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Look in the 2010 Mid terms which Republican candidates are going to be scrambling to get her to come to their districts to campaign and raise money for them. BANK ON IT. This is a terrible day for Obama and for Democrats.
elduende on July 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
You people are missing the obvious. Why is she doing this on the 3rd? Because she, unlike Sanford, is rationalizing her disappearance BEFORE she goes missing.
But again why the 3rd? Because it gives her just enough time to get to North Korea, break into the launch facility, redirect the Missile, and boom goes Bin Laden.
Why isn’t this obvious to you people?
- The Cat
MirCat on July 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I hope you’re right. But Obama voters then will still be in the dark. Many of them will be thanking Obama for whatever semblance of a life they have left.
hawksruleva on July 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM
The GOPs been A-holes, but she’ll be back supporting her candidates to build support for future missions.
the_nile on July 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM
DON”T LISTEN TO THE OLD HAG FROM NBC….
TimeTraveler on July 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews?????
yoda on July 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM
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