Krauthammer on Palin: She’s young, she’ll be back
posted at 8:08 pm on July 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I agree, as does Geraghty, as does Omri Ceren. Like I said in the video thread earlier, she’s in Nixon position here. She’s finished in the near term, i.e. 2012, but the public’s memory is short. If she hits the trail for some GOP movers and shakers and reemerges in three years or so with an ability to talk shop on domestic and foreign policy, Republicans won’t care that she flaked out on the governorship. The One only had two years of big-league political experience under his belt when he ran for president, after all; it didn’t hurt him because he convinced voters he knew what he was talking about notwithstanding his greenness. That’s the place she needs to get to, assuming she still has national ambitions.
Of course, if Juan is right and this was all motivated by some looming mega-scandal, disregard everything I just said.
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I suspect the same. Being governor of a state a billion miles away from the “action” would have clearly been a disadvantage for her political ambitions. Now she have access to the same sort of tv appearances, fundraisers, and so on as do Pawlenty, Romney, and others. And no, I would not be surprised if did move her family to the 48.
DarkKnight3565 on July 3, 2009 at 8:48 PM
There isn’t the slightest chance that history will remember either McCain. We honestly can’t say the same thing about Palin yet.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Awfully sure of yourself, aren’t you spanky? You just don’t understand what happened today and listening to other pundits won’t help you. You people are so far up each others butts you don’t know what up from down.
“That’s the thought among the political class”
Here that people? Says it all. Scumbags believe they are apart from the rest of us great unwashed. Doesn’t mean if they claim to be conservative or not. krauthammer and juan don’t believe thier equals are Palin or Joe the Plumber or you or me. Thier fellow “classmates” are people like barry and michelle and mccain and schumer and and david gergen and chris matthews and all the lowlife pols that we send to washington. Ideology and political philosophy is not important once you scratch the surface, it’s being part of the elite that is most important.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Try really hard to see this as an independent or, gasp, moderate democrat. She might have fans in the GOP…and this might be simply for family reasons. But, not finishing her term…HER ONE JOB IN POLITICS…is suicidal. This was the PRIMARY reason people outside our party disliked her…the media did a fine job of convincing people she already didn’t have enough experience. As it stands now, the very thing she had on her record (Governor) is now tarnished as “quitter.” She was already new on the job and green on the national scene. Can anyone say this is GOOD?!?!!? This place is like a twilight zone.
Mommypundit on July 3, 2009 at 8:52 PM
This is the type of thing that could get her remembered for a long time, IMO. I see this as maybe a last chance for us….if she ignores the media and barnstorms the lower 48.
genso on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Burn Krauthammer at the stake…!
Oh wait… Never mind.
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM
No thanks to CKs short sighted stupidity viewed through beltway glasses. -10 for CK in my book.
Spiritk9 on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM
That would be a mistake. If she moves to washington or new york or a big liberal metropolitan area she will lose credibility (despite these numbnuts saying she already has even though two days ago they said she didn’t have any in the first place). She needs to keep her base in Alaska.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I would respond to you mommypundit but you have a history of not taking constructive criticism well. I don’t need your tears.
Blake on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 PM
My bet is now on the other shoe dropping… this is ssssoooo unlike the Sarahcuuda, pit bull with a lipstick persona that we have come to know and love.
nagee76 on July 3, 2009 at 8:55 PM
And what’s with the CAPITAL LETTERS? Write like an adult.
Blake on July 3, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Intrepid on July 3, 2009 at 8:46 PM
“Let’s see how this plays out – if a scandal does come out, and it’s confirmed, then indeed her national career will be in jeopardy……”
That depends on the scandal–if there is one. The Obama administration , so far, is a series of mini scandals covered up by rhetoric and lies and a self-delusional press. What’s the difference between one big one and O’s ever growing collection of little ones? How many little scandals does it take to make a big one?
jeanie on July 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I think it was just unfortunate for her…I wish McCain hadn’t picked her. I wish she could finish this term and then travel, run for Senate, get noticed for her DC chops and then run. Perfect world scenario…I know we are in a hurry to rid ourselves of the Obama scourge, but, this is too hasty. I am really bummed…
Mommypundit on July 3, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I’m trying to find via google the numerous bills Barack Obama sponsored during his short term as Senator from Illinois, his first BIG job…
Come to think of it, I can’t find much of anything he did as an IL STATE SENATOR, other than being the lone vote IN FAVOR OF partial birth abortion.
Let’s see….BO didn’t finish his term as IL State senator, didn’t finish his first term as US Senator from IL – actually showed up for about 100 days total – and ran for President.
Now let’s look at what Gov Palin accomplished.
Intrepid on July 3, 2009 at 8:57 PM
It’s a cornucopia of Palin threads…where do I start…`Hyperventilating` …
Palin/Cheney 2012 Two women who will cleanup after the !@#$%^%$#…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 8:57 PM
No it wasn’t. Wasn’t even in the top ten. They hated her because she was a strong, intelligent, principled, self made woman who stands by her convictions. They voted for a state senator but hated her because of her inexperience?
Start thinking for yourself instead of swallowing everything you hear on tv.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 8:57 PM
“Can anyone say this is GOOD?!?!!? This place is like a twilight zone.”
MommyPundit, every body is heartbroken and in denial. This was easily the worst timing and the worst thing she has done.
I still think that she could have done this later on – the timing suggests that she did this in a real hurry – the question is WHY ?
I am afraid that i dont want to know the answer.
nagee76 on July 3, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Mommy”pundit” I’ll say it’s good. I don’t think she’ll continue and I don’t think she’s running for anything. I can’t begin to imagine that the abuse heaped upon the Palins will allow any of her kids to walk away unscarred and untraumatized. She was right to leave Alaska to a governor who will not be subjected to a perpetual barrage of ugly smears.
People didn’t seem to care so much about Obama’s lack of credentials, his radical views or corrupt associates.
She recognized that the media would keep up the assaults until one of her kids suicided or Alaska hated her for the attention and cost of defense.
It was the best thing.
If she makes money speaking, good for her.
clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I will take your advice in your last sentence, AllahPagan, because I usually do disregard what you say when you’re talking about Sarah or Rudy.
You sound too smug and happy in all these Sarah posts today
Janos Hunyadi on July 3, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Elites don’t have to be bad. Elites don’t have to be divorced from the values and goals of the common people. They can be, but don’t have to be.
I wish we had a cadre of conservative elites to lead us, people very intelligent, highly educated, highly experienced, polished, ethical and honest. And I wish we had uncorrupted institutions to produce them.
The founding fathers were elite. We have every right to demand loyalty back from our leaders, and to discard them if they dare look down with disdain–as seems to be the case now. But to eschew an elite in principle seems like a bad idea to me.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:00 PM
No one hates someone for those reasons. To his supporters Obama is all those things (well, self made *man*) and yet I’m sure that you not only don’t agree but wouldn’t hate him for those reasons if you did. People who dislike Sarah Palin dislike what she believes, what she has done and what they think she will do. It’s not complicated. The same goes for any politician.
jonknee on July 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM
jeanie:
I think there may be people on McCain’s campaign that are trying to find others to blame for their failure, but I don’t think it is McCain. After all he picked her. That was his choice. Attacks on her reflect badly on him.
And also, I think that when a lot of this comes from the press, you have to wonder just how much they are making up and inventing. They don’t like this woman and it is easy to use anonymous sources to trash people.
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Well, if she wants to move to NH–I will personally offer to help her unpack the boxes, hang the curtains,put in the shelf paper etc. and baby sit if they want to go out to dinner.
jeanie on July 3, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Obama was a US Senator, though not for very long. Yes, his resume was extremely thin, but the point is he was a current political figure at the time.
Obama was a US Senator when elected in 2008.
GW Bush was governor of Texas for 6 years until 2000.
Clinton was governor of Arkansas for 10 years until 1992.
HW Bush was VP when elected in 1988.
Reagan was governor of CA for 8 years until 1975, with an unsuccessful run in 1976 before elected in 1980.
Contrast that with a potential Palin run in 2016:
Governor for 3.5 years until mid-2009, announces candidacy 5.5 years later.
I’m not sure what she could do between now and 2016 to stay in the limelight for 5 years while making herself a more viable candidate.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Admittedly, I haven’t read all that is here or on the other threads…
I can assure you this was timed perfectly…eve of the 4th…
One more brilliant political stroke…you’re watching history being made…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Yes, a charitable view. I tend to be a little short on those. For the moment, I will accept yours.
jeanie on July 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Great points. Further, there are elites and those that try to pass as elites…
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM
That was nice. Put a smile on my face.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM
For me its principles before party. For the last election it was either Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson. The only reason I voted for McCain was because of Sarah Palin.
Is
MittFlip Romney your guy?RedRobin145 on July 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM
peacenprosperity:
I think their reasons for disliking Sarah Palin were cultural and social, snobbery. A woman like Lynn Cheney would be immune to the snobbery, but they would hate her for other reasons, namely her Dad.
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM
I don’t see this whatsoever. We have Obamacare and Cap-in-the-knee coming up. This + Sanford will be in the headlines and people won’t be paying attention to what they should be…
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM
RedRobin:
Yeah well, my principles tell me that just about anyone would be better than Barack Obama. My principles tell me that half a loaf is better than starving. That by the way is quote from Ronald Reagan.
If people sit home because they do not get exactly they want, then they might as well vote for a second term Obama. Same outcome. And my principles tell me that would be a bad thing.
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM
This is very good. Her resigning was a selfless act. The left would not have let her accomplish anything in Alaska because they fear her. They would have handcuffed her for the rest of her term. Get it through your heads that this isn’t just about lettermen and couric. They are idiots and amateurs. The big boys set thier sites on Palin and Alaska and you better believe millions have been flowing there to interfere with her governance. Instead she leaves in place the team that helped her accomplish everything she has done. The left will turn thier guns on her wherever she is allowing Alaska to get things done. She will be able to fight back. She will be able to step out now and take it to barry without any false comraderie that a governor is supposed to show to the president. She will be able to help people get elected in 2010 that will handcuff the fascists and be in place if she wins in 2012. She did a selfless thing. True conservatives should admire her even more today after what she has done. She has stepped out to be the leader we have been asking for. She should be even more of a hero. Stop listening to the left tell you who to vote for and who to admire. They have frank and schumer and clinton and barry and, yes, mccain and ridge and powell and crist. I’ll take one Sarah Palin over all those weak, pathetic elitists.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Upstater:
Oh I don’t know. The press will be too busy thinking about Michael Jackson.
The Democrats had Hot Rod and Spitzer and what harm did it do them? None so far as I can tell.
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM
A question: Who the hell would want to be a GOP presidential candidate when both the left and the right are disemboweling any GOP with the slightest bit of charisma?
The left and the media are well into Serb/Croat/Bosnian levels of hatred for their political enemies while the so-called “elites” on the right are full of sniffy “insiders” who are distressingly eager to throw in with liberal hatchet jobs just so they themselves aren’t seen as one of those oh-so-gauche, inbred conservatives.
Why the f___ would any sane person step up for that? It’s no wonder the GOP lacks for decent candidates.
Django on July 3, 2009 at 9:09 PM
If nothing else, Sarah Palin serves as a Rohrschach test, The heated debate we are having is for the heart and soul of the Republican Party.
I’m old enough to remember when Reagan incited similarly divisive passions within the GOP. This time Mitt Romney is the candidate of the Beltway Republican establishment — coincidentally, the voices urging us to get over Reagan — and Palin is the outsider derided as a simpleton. Time will tell if Palin can fulfill her potential as a true conservative, but it would be unfair to expect her to be another Reagan.
I am also old enough to remember when Bill Buckley was Reagan’s mentor in bucking the eastern establishment. The irony is not lost on me that Buckley’s beloved magazine devotes so much time and space to George Romney’s faithful son, Mitt, whose “insubstantiality” Buckley himself noted in a January 2008 column.
We’ve come a long way, baby, but it’s not too late to turn this ship around.
Terrie on July 3, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Liberals hate people for those reasons. That’s why they are liberals, they don’t have the courage to be those things.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 9:10 PM
You can be the leader of your country without being President. Sarah has all the time in the world now.
William Amos on July 3, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Question- If she is suppose to be traveling and learning this last year as a lame duck, what happens is she is “traveling” and the Norks decide to go nutsoid? Can you imagine the **** storm that would take place?
freeus on July 3, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Jiang:
I don’t think it is that simple. Look at Buckley and people like that. Most conservatives had no problem with these people until Palin came along and they saw the reaction of said elites. When it was Harriet Miers they were calling a char woman how many people cared? But the same snobbery and disdain for common roots and state universities etc was there.
Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Willow Palin in 2020 !
William Amos on July 3, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Amen. But the GOP has all but kicked out all the elites. The party is defended most vocally by drop outs (Limbaugh, Hannity, etc) and its rising star was educated to be a rural sports caster. She’s a quitter too. Science is continually berated and evangelical religion embraced, furthering the brain drain. McCain (who barely graduated) decided to popularize one citizen during the campaign and that was an unlicensed plumber who had his numbers mixed up. Instead of being being embarrassed, this plumber was embraced by the GOP and even sent to Israel to “report”. It’s a shame.
jonknee on July 3, 2009 at 9:12 PM
I still say that so much of the anger that’s expressed re. Palin is actually at the media, old and sometimes new, who separate themselves from their own readership with two widely disseminated misbeliefs:
-they’re impartial, and thus above criticism by partisans.
-they’re part of the elite, and know better.
I sometimes think that Conservatives and Republicans need to confront the media and forget about confronting democrats. Remember that scene at the tea party with the CNN babe? How about teaparties outside the windows of the morning shows. My guess is that if we can knock the media down to size, the dems go down with them.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM
(hope I did the quote thingy right)
I listened to Fox this afternoon – Stuart (Stewart?) Varney did a phone interview with Lynn Forester. That’s how he introduced her – Lynn Forester. She is actually Lady Lynn, Baroness de Rothchild, a former member of the democrat rules committee and supporter of Hillary Clinton. After Hillary got demolished by the O machine, and McCain announced Sarah, the Baroness came out strong for McCain/Palin, specifically Palin.
What tickled me was that the Baroness talked about how strong and tough Sarah Palin is, and how people would be wise to not underestimate her. Also, she talked about how Sarah was a victim of class warfare – because she is not an East Coaster or grad of an elite school, the coastal elites dismissed her. Bad idea, said the Baroness.
I liked the irony.
Intrepid on July 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM
I’m waiting for Piper.
Terrie on July 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM
You’re just lying to yourself then. Liberals are actually a lot more like you than you apparently realize.
jonknee on July 3, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Hey, the Sanford story hasn’t been wiped out yet…
Well, Terry, you know I tease, but what does this show us? ;)
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Upstater85,
This was just the opening volley …stay tuned…I know you will…
Think outside the box…
She has demonstrated to be unconventional…and won…06 ring a bell?
She is what we all have been waiting for…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Get a grip. It doesn’t take an elite Beltway professional pundit to suggest that a 2012 run would be a disaster after resigning for less than catastrophic reasons 3.5 years before the next election.
Some of you need a reality check rather than rely on the wishful thinking I’m currently seeing. She has zero chance in 2012. None. Nada. Zip. Nill. It’s highly unlikely she’d even run. The sooner you come to accept that reality, the better.
2016 is plausible, but would have to involve overcoming the serious credibility gap that she presented with her resignation.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM
The media ARE dems, they share the same blood supply.
clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM
jerk
Go back to the huffington post being a reasonable republican. I bet you spend hours in the john with the dust jacket from a peggy noonan book. Or is it a christopher buckley photo?
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM
nicely put…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:16 PM
What flavor kool aid do you prefer? Be a good boy, take a big sip and swallow that political elite propaganda.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM
your snobbery illustrates my point.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Actually, this is an area where I think we commonly make a serious mistake politically.
Did Obama win the office of the Senate after his allies sabotaged Sen Ryan’s re-election bid? Yes.
Did he do anything as a senator other then run for President? No.
I say we stop giving him, and members of the Left in general, credit they do not deserve. As the most obvious example, how often did Palin get labeled as a mayor of a small town instead of governor?
18-1 on July 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Can I quote you in late Oct of 2012?
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I think that this is what you will see from Palin. I think she will take on the media head-on and inspire others to it as well.
genso on July 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Yeah, I’ve said something along these lines before. With the way our media is, one wanders if Reagan could have won. Yeah, you can say they hated him back then, but he still had friends in Hollywood.
No, I’m not advocating that politicians should have celebrity friends (actually I believe something more to the contrary…), but you make a good point. We are completely disconnected from the media. If the media shapes opinion (they do), then how are we supposed to continue growing without taking them down?
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM
There you go! Precisely what I meant.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM
My main point is that I think this is the common thread in the undercurrent of anger that runs through so many of the comments. I think the media (and very occasionally the righty bloggers that are part of it) is being rightly identified as “the enemy.”
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:20 PM
If you’re looking for me to defend Obama, forget it. Yes, he was woefully inexperienced at anything but campaigning and reading from a teleprompter. Yes, the attacks on Palin were very unfair.
The question remains though- after today’s resignation, under what circumstances would she be a successful candidate in 2016? What happens between now and then that turns things around for her?
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:21 PM
With all due respect, AP, you seem a little bipolar on this topic…. One minute you’re slamming her, and the next you’re a staunch defender. I appreciate your ability to see both sides of the debate, but really…. I can’t figure you out any more.
Back in the Winter, I was ready to ditch HotAir because I thought “If I want constant Palin-bashing, religion-bashing, and big-tent elitism, I can go to a liberal blog.” Then, what appeared to be an attitude shift away from cynicism changed my mind. Now, it’s becoming a question of consistency – again, I appreciate the effort on the part of Allah and Ed to look at all sides of every issue, but keeping up with their opinions is exhausting.
Must be all about site traffic. ;)
Naw, really I love you guys. You just confuse the heck out of me.
And in all fairness, I still don’t know how I feel about Sarah’s decision, either.
Animator Girl on July 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Please do. Also note that I believe that water is wet and fire is hot.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM
I really don’t know. I don’t see how she can do that and expect to protect her children. They will react to her as if their lives are at stake, which they are. If she tries, she better not do it alone, but as leader of an organization that includes grassrooters like us to back her up.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Look pre-today, I was ready to step in line and vote for her, but the message she sends is that she quit – because she didn’t want to be a lame duck. Could that possibly be stretching the truth?
I’ve brought up other politicians in the past. Newt in particular. I’ve been told he’s a bad person because he cheated on his wife… Now that Palin might be straying from the values that we hold, we are expected to
accept thisembrace this because it’s some sort of pragmatic strategizing?This doesn’t sit well with me.
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:23 PM
A member of the political elite told me that 2+2=4. Better relearn math, since they can never, ever be right, even when stating the completely obvious.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Actually, this has been one of the mistakes Republicans have made again and again.
Confronting the media will cost you in the short term as they will respond by ratcheting up the hate in response…but putting it off as the Republicans have been doing for the last decade or so has cost us the Presidency, the Senate, the House, our prosperity, and it appears much of our freedom.
I still think that, for example, in 2004 Bush and the Republicans should have really run with the Rathergate scandal. It was the perfect opportunity to seriously change the media game…
But the Republicans did nothing, and while the media did not get Bush, they did get proof that they could do anything and get away with it.
18-1 on July 3, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Fine, but they’re the dems that deliver the blows. Why not attack them, instead of always focusing on the dem elected officals. The dem officials will fold when the media shield does.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Perhaps she is of the ilk who believe the best defense is a good offense. Besides, what else can they possibly do to her kids that is worse than what they’ve done. Out of office, she gets the moral high-ground as concerns her family. I think she will gather such a following that cheap-shots will not go over so well in the future.
genso on July 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM
You won’t see me defending the media! And when you take away their political oxygen supply you will kill the parasitic elected twin
clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I LOL’d. I sure did. I don’t know how a beta male like AP manages to put up with some of the commenters here without going full nerdrage.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I don’t think Rep. politicians, by and large, can do that. I think the people ought to target the media, and give the Rep. polls a level playing field. Rep. polls are better than Dems, but the media shield advantage gives dems the win.
I hope Sarah or somebody starts the right wing alternative to Barry’s acorn army with the media the target. I’d love to hound Katie Couric on the street with questions about her teens virginity.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I guess you are trying to be clever because you believe you belong with the “elite”. You just sound kind of silly.
peacenprosperity on July 3, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Was that a sexual remark aimed at our beloved Sarah? :)
All kidding aside…as I said above… this is just the beginning…
She may not announce until next July 3rd…
mark MY words, she will… and she will win…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM
True, but I would modify this a bit.
From 2001-8 the two parties were the Republicans and the media.
In the Age of Obama though, the media exist to sell the man’s vision of what should be and what is.
18-1 on July 3, 2009 at 9:30 PM
I think she’s going to run on a third party ticket that she will form.
mizflame98 on July 3, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Even more reason to tear it down. Certain targets need to be picked, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it–Alinskys rules for Radicals.
There are prob. only a few 100 people in the US media who keep the Dems afloat.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Maybe not now but in the future you will see the wisdom of this move…
The ethics charges were consuming most of her time…
Did you not read of the reasons or listen to her speak?
Please …take the time and find out…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I love the theory…but how to go about such a thing in practice?
There are significant differences not only in the beliefs of the Left and Right but in their makeup. More specifically in this case, we on the right do not have a core of underemployed overly politicized acolytes to rely on.
18-1 on July 3, 2009 at 9:36 PM
If by “elite” you mean “having some sense of reality”, then yes, I do put myself in that company.
For all the circling the wagons around Palin after her resignation, can any of you make a remotely plausible case for her winning in 2012 after today’s events?
To start with, how would she manage to convince voters she deserves to be elected to the most powerful position in the world when she resigned with 16 months left in her term because the pressure was too much to bear?
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:36 PM
I think Bernard Goldberg already compiled the list. Didn’t he have a book about who’s ruining America?
As for the unemployed acolytes, the same could be said re. tea parties. At some point, people have to sacrifice some time and money to protest.
I think some annoying protests at every target’s place of business and home should do some damage. Sharpton did it. Abortion clinic protesters did it. Turn it on the media.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Your point is moot. You can’t base the question on a false premise. Because you are of the opinion that she retired due to the pressure doesn’t make it so. You really do think you are among the elite it seems.
genso on July 3, 2009 at 9:40 PM
You remind me of someone who doesn’t bother saving for retirement because they’re certain they’ll win the lottery before then.
But go ahead, buy that lottery ticket. You’ll have better odds of winning than seeing Palin get elected President in 2012.
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:40 PM
nice…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM
From what I’ve read over the conservative blogosphere this afternoon, what Sarah Palin did this afternoon could be likened to the Old Testament Gideon, when he dismissed the soldiers who stooped down to lap like dogs when they drank water. He was left with 300 warriors who were always “heads up”, and by some very unconventional means, Gideon’s army won the day.
I’m sure those 300 who were THE final defenders felt more than a bit “concerned” about the actions of their leader. Especially when he told them to pick up a few jars….
Intrepid on July 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM
;)…time will tell…and I’ll agree to disagree…
btw…I bought a boat instead…it floats…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Why run in the first place? I mean, why not become a community organizer?
SOME governors…
Wait, am I missing something? She said some governors milk the system, so to do the best thing for Alaska she’s going to resign… Is she insinuating that if she had stayed, she would have milked the system?
I mean, heck Bush should have just stepped down since he was a lame duck and all…
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Before Doctor Zero, Jim Treacher, or one of the other more insightful posters here gets in on this, let me try my hand at some analysis.
First, remember that in the past, the path from sitting Governor to President was a well-established path. No one minded if a governor, (whether new in the job or not,) ran in the primaries, and then again in the general election. Sarah Palin’s political opponents changed this pattern, with their relentless trumped-up ethics charges against her. Each time she attempted to enter the national conversation, they pounced, leaving her having to expend both effort and money to defend against these baseless charges. So, for her, there would not be a smooth path from where she was to the Presidency.
Now, she could have finished her term. She could, in theory, then enter the race. But, she would have been handicapped in two ways; other candidates, unburdened with the inability to make an appearance without being charged with an ethic violation, would necessarily have something of a head start. And, lacking what might be called full access to the national microphone, the remainder of the news about her would have been the very kind of attacks we’ve seen to date. In sum, the only thing she would have been able to do, that would have any kind of national resonance, would have been to defend, and defend, and defend.
This resignation, should she decide to put her hat into the ring, frees her from these limitations. And, don’t discount the shrewdness of her stated reason. While some have said that her premise (that of putting Alaska first) will haunt her in the up-coming primary fights and debates, consider this; she will not have to change her answer as time goes on, it’s a simple response, and she’ll have lots of chances to repeat it in the months to come. As the primaries approach, it will take on the appearance of a fully settled issue.
Governor Palin has already proven to be an energetic speaker, a formidable fundraiser, and possessing considerable political skills.
This decision lets her concentrate on her strengths, build those areas that some perceive as weaknesses, and focus fully on whatever political path she decides is in her future. Those who dismiss her ignore her past history and her capabilities.
massrighty on July 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Huh?
She offered four different reasons for resigning:
1. Expense and “distraction” of (bogus) ethics complaints, 15 of which she already beat.
2. Strain on or consensus from her family.
3. Lack of desire to finish a “lame duck” term, made so by her own decision not to run again.
4. Desire to advance conservative candidates and principles in an unspecified manner.
Can the ethics complaints not be considered “pressure”? How about her family concerns?
The “lame duck” excuse was… lame. No way around that.
The promise of working for conservative principles was merely her way of saying that she’ll be politically active after resigning.
If she didn’t resign due to the pressures she faced as governor and former VP candidate, why did she?
Hollowpoint on July 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
And possibly dishonest.
Upstater85 on July 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM
fwiw, sounds like a pretty good analysis to me.
JiangxiDad on July 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Only time will tell. Personally, I think she wants to go on offense…something she couldn’t do as a sitting governor. Regardless, by your own admission, there was more to the story than “pressure.”
genso on July 3, 2009 at 9:50 PM
If you think it’s bad now imagine what it would be like to 4 or 8 years when Trig is 5 or 9 year’s old. I shudder to imagine what kind of vile stuff would posted and written about the poor child by the Class-less Left.
PackerBronco on July 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Whew.
Jim Treacher on July 3, 2009 at 9:53 PM
OK so you’ve demonstrated that you can research and read…
But…you’re lacking in comprehenstion …read it again …what she said…
And think ethics charges and what is best for Alaska….
Energy to the hungry markets in the lower 48.…duh…
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:53 PM
We’ve had sitting senators run for president recently; some effort was made to paint them as not doing their jobs, due to the campaign and it’s demands. Attendance became an issue for Kerry, McCain, and Obama.
This would have been a constant, had she chosen to run from the Governors office; the more hostile elements of the media would never have let go of this, gleefully announcing each ethics complaint, (but little mentioning that she had successfully deflected them.)
massrighty on July 3, 2009 at 9:54 PM
jerrytbg on July 3, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Look….this country is screwed in so many ways if something dramatic doesn’t happen fast to change the dynamics. Maybe this is it….maybe not. If you are someone who really wants things to change, the thought that she might become a congealing voice for conservatives must be heartening to you. For those who believe that there is someone else out there with her name recognition who will speak to the growing anger in this country, who is it?
genso on July 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Thanks. Based on the quality of your posts, that’s a compliment I can enjoy.
massrighty on July 3, 2009 at 9:58 PM
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